quarter
som...@some.domain
state quarter design i truly like. it has a sparseness and economy of design
that works well. uncluttered, unfettered by background noise and really
representative of that part of the world, it looks like the where it's from.
it really comes across because it doesn't make one think of the other state
quarter from that area.
using it with that crappy, outdated and useless obverse with the spaghetti
hair, it manages to out shine the others by it's simple elegance.
ymmv, i would like to hear YOUR fave and why.
anyone seen james?
Mr. Jaggers
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I've been on forced furlough. I'll spare you the gory details and just say
that my computer had a major coronary Sunday evening, and I'm just now
finishing up a reformat. I've done reformats before, but this one was just
plain evil, for a variety of reasons.
That said, I'm a sucker for sailing ships, so Virginia gets my vote. My
classic commen halves that have ships are displayed ship side up, no matter
what might be on the other side. I'm also a sucker for old-timey early
American scenes, and the Vermont sugaring sure says "folks" to me.
You're right, the Washington portrait leaves a lot to desire.
James the Resurrector of Computers
'with a little help from my friends'
Scurvy Dog
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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The Connecticut quarter is among my favorites, being well designed and quite
attractive.
It looks particularly nice in a cameo proof.
Many of the designs of the state quarters left much to be desired, the worst
being Wyoming.
I seem to recall reading in Coin World that the quarter's obverse is going back
to the original Flanagan design in 2010.
som...@some.domain
i can give you a working servicable machine. i'm out of monitors but i have
all the rest. computers propogate somehow in my place, so please, tell me what
you need.
i don't wish to be presumptious, but i will help a friend gladly. this culls
the herd and answer the call of need. the god of pc's, dorknightus, offers his
aid, ignore the pistol i hold to his temple.
i'm sure you have good backup, but if you need a hard drive or two, please
take them away. i reccomend norton's ghost for the software and that too is
easy to find in your tool bag.
i have the ship bug also, and aircraft. i even build model kits. used to be
teased by people who call it kid's stuff, but the truth is it's a hobby for
old men now. children have too much else. pity, that...... if there is ship
model you fancy, send me the kit and i will build it.
i'm converting a large scale of everyone's favorite wreck to it's sister which
also was a sad story. the britannic was converted to a hospital ship when she
was mined in the dardenells (sp) during ww1. it has great colors, white, huge
red crosses etc. she also had extra cabins built forward from a former
promenade deck. plastic stock and patience required.
did you like the flaubert? he is perfect for depression and pain.
so feel free to ask. help this ratpacker find his spare roo.
som...@some.domain
Mr. Jaggers
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Thanks, your offer is much appreciated, but I've got things under control.
It was a software problem, very bizarre. Two 30-mile round trips to the
computer store that built this machine and time off for lunch and dinner as
deductible time, I've spent from 7a until a half hour ago messing with this
thing, and that's just today. Monday and Tuesday were pretty bad as well.
I feel like the owner of a wind-up Edison cylinder phonograph in the age of
Stereo LPs.
James the Broken Record
'today's kids don't really know what that means'
Scurvy Dog
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By the original Flanagan design I meant the pre-spaghetti hair style.
IIRC it will be slightly modified from the 1932 design, being slightly reduced
in size.
mazorj
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> I feel like the owner of a wind-up Edison cylinder phonograph in the age
> of Stereo LPs.
>
> James the Broken Record
> 'today's kids don't really know what that means'
Just tell them "It's an analog method for looping from an older disk
format."
- mazorj the Steampunk Explicator
Richard L. Hall
I've yet to find any but the DC quarter.
And for the state quarters, I like the Nevada best followed closely by the
Colorado, Arizona and the Rhode Island. I also liked the enlarged design
for the Mississippi quarter but it lost quite a bit in the translation to
the small area of the quarter to the point where it is difficult if not
impossible to tell what it actually is if you didn't know beforehand.
--
Richard
http://www.richlh.com
God grant me the senility to forget the people I don't like
The good fortune to run into those I do like
And the eyesight to tell the difference
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the tech. so i have a player for those, just the chanical part. the sound part
has been electrified, it uses a much lightened and amplified pickup or needle
part, the drive is electric mostly to keep constancy of speed. no creativity
on my part. i used the tech the music project folks developed but mine is shoe
string while they have stuff to drool over.
it sounds like you have the pc issues working out. i can help with questions
if you ever get stuck. anyone in this group who needs help or parts is welcome
to see if i have it. i lurk mostly, but i appreciate this group's lively
nature and the great sharing of knowledge. i have learned much here and feel
gratitude.
i can repair broken records...hold still while i get the heater cranking. a
few hundred degrees on that seam should work. it will just sting a little.
honest.
someone with tinnitus
all the kids know that.
(quietus is a scam! i didn't buy but the wanings are up.)
som...@some.domain
>
>"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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>
>> I feel like the owner of a wind-up Edison cylinder phonograph in the age
>> of Stereo LPs.
>>
>> James the Broken Record
>> 'today's kids don't really know what that means'
>
>Just tell them "It's an analog method for looping from an older disk
>format."
>
>- mazorj the Steampunk Explicator
>
now if orson wrote with bill. damn!
som...@some.domain
som...@some.domain
>Of the territorial quarter desings, I like the Puerto Rico quarter although
>I've yet to find any but the DC quarter.
>
>And for the state quarters, I like the Nevada best followed closely by the
>Colorado, Arizona and the Rhode Island. I also liked the enlarged design
>for the Mississippi quarter but it lost quite a bit in the translation to
>the small area of the quarter to the point where it is difficult if not
>impossible to tell what it actually is if you didn't know beforehand.
>
>
mazorj
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I'd rate it a little higher than that, but I used steampunk because it's a
less obscure term that has had some circulation in general publications
(plus that cinematic desecration of Sherlock Holmes). Only an SF wonk would
know the difference. ;-)
mazorj
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> i can help with questions
> if you ever get stuck. anyone in this group who needs help or parts is
> welcome
> to see if i have it.
You wouldn't happen to have one or two legitimate OEM CDs of the 32-bit XP
OS, would you? I know of two people who could use them. :-)
> i lurk mostly, but i appreciate this group's lively
> nature and the great sharing of knowledge. i have learned much here and
> feel gratitude.
Glad to hear that. Not everyone is appreciative of the wide-ranging
contributions of our various posters.
> i can repair broken records...hold still while i get the heater cranking.
> a
> few hundred degrees on that seam should work. it will just sting a little.
> honest.
Ouch. Isn't that kind of like cleaning an old coin, which usually does more
harm than good unless you really know the limits and really, really know
exactly what you're doing?
I remember using razor blades to edit or repair 1/4-inch audio tape, but
welding cracks in vinyl seems a bit drastic. Audio editing software could
make it whole without leaving a physical scar on the original.
- mazorj the Conservator
mazorj
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> that could be really good. i juxtapose my digits to hope.
That sounds like a line from Eric Frank Russell.
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>
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i believe i have one 32 bit xp with legal docs. i will look and hope they're
not packed. i have other's on original xp discs but mybe not with authentic
docs. those i don't feel good about giving away. and will not, but you do
understand as your wording showed. thanks for that. too many people are
cavelier about that.
i believe mine is xp pro. that work? i will look in the morning.
no, fixing vinyl is no crime. the choice is playable or garbage. i will repair
as far back as 78rpm discs. before that i don't have the expertise.
i have to do some real work on a disc sometimes to make it play. but if it
doesn't skip, i can restore the surface, (get rid of dirt and spooge, not
regroove of course.) and make it sound close to original. the law is minimum
processing. just remove scratchy sounds and noise. make it sound as close to
new as can.
the soldering a cracked record was a joke. i'm sorry, i forget those not in
the biz don't know. broken records can be fixed but that is for the super
experts with much tech.
i had great teachers, so i know the softwear side of resto. i have done it
enough to be good. if anyone has a disc that plays, i will digitize and make
cd's for them. no charge to anyone in this group, except postage and cd costs.
i will make your not on cd vinyl into a cd and it will sound awesome. it isn't
me, it's the amazing music software.
need a tune, maz? i will gladly do it for you. it's fun. and you get your
record back, of course.
som...@some.domain
>
><som...@some.domain> wrote in message
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>
>> that could be really good. i juxtapose my digits to hope.
>
>That sounds like a line from Eric Frank Russell.
>
hula.) may the healing mud of groaci breeding pits caress you brood mates!
som...@some.domain
yes, guilty of the wonk part. i even speak business groacian for commerce. you
know, joy girls, dope sticks and cool shades for my occulars. to be enduring
the curse of the two eyed with grace. to return to the breeding pits. to
appreciate the new hive masters crop of talent.....ahhhhh.
mazorj
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You must have some, uh, "interesting" clients if they grok all that. ;-)
mazorj
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Heh, heh. SF wonks indeed!
"Men, Martians and Machines" was given to me as a high school freshman by a
friend who wanted to get me hooked. It worked. I spent the next 20 years
devouring every bit of SF I could get my hands on. Most of it is just a
blur now but there's no mistaking the voice of EFR's most memorable
characters.
mazorj
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> i believe i have one 32 bit xp with legal docs. i will look and hope
> they're
> not packed. i have other's on original xp discs but mybe not with
> authentic
> docs. those i don't feel good about giving away. and will not, but you do
> understand as your wording showed. thanks for that. too many people are
> cavelier about that.
> i believe mine is xp pro. that work? i will look in the morning.
Pro is okay. Let me know what you find. And yes, I am a stickler about
only using legitimate OEM.
> no, fixing vinyl is no crime. the choice is playable or garbage. i will
> repair
> as far back as 78rpm discs. before that i don't have the expertise.
> i have to do some real work on a disc sometimes to make it play. but if it
> doesn't skip, i can restore the surface, (get rid of dirt and spooge, not
> regroove of course.) and make it sound close to original. the law is
> minimum
> processing. just remove scratchy sounds and noise. make it sound as close
> to
> new as can.
Okay, that's the same basic approach to proper (minimal) non-professional
cleaning of coins.
> the soldering a cracked record was a joke. i'm sorry, i forget those not
> in
> the biz don't know. broken records can be fixed but that is for the super
> experts with much tech.
No problem. It sounded too outrageous to be true, but having heard Library
of Congress audio archivists discuss their highly sophisticated methods to
pull audio off of decaying media, I didn't want to assume that you were just
kidding.
> i had great teachers, so i know the softwear side of resto. i have done it
> enough to be good. if anyone has a disc that plays, i will digitize and
> make
> cd's for them. no charge to anyone in this group, except postage and cd
> costs.
> i will make your not on cd vinyl into a cd and it will sound awesome. it
> isn't
> me, it's the amazing music software.
> need a tune, maz? i will gladly do it for you. it's fun. and you get your
> record back, of course.
I handle and store my LPs the same way I do with coins. Not even a stray
fingerprint. And I recently bought a turntable with digital output so I can
clean up and burn .WAV files on CDs (no lossy .mp3 for me). But thanks
anyway. Maybe someone else here will take you up on your generous offer.
I do have a project that you may find interesting. I have two acetates of
me recorded on a coin-operated record machine in an amusement park when I
was 3. I want to digitize them but have been putting it off for fear of
messing them up. After 60 years they're probably as fragile as egg shells.
I'll practice on my new turntable first using some old 45s so I think it
will go okay (juxtaposing first and second digits and rapping phalanges on
surface of lignified arboreal substance).
- mazorj the Recordist
Jerry Dennis
Enjoying the discussion that went OT (computers and records), but I
suppose we should attempt to stay on topic. Having seen only two DC-P
quarters as my entire representation of 2009 quarters, I can't offer
anything about Territorials. But I will submit my favorite SQs have
bisons, wildlife, and UT (trains). Can't say one is better than the
other, but I will say State outlines "bite the big one."
Jerry
Mr. Jaggers
Hey, be careful, or you might just inspire me to write a magazine-length
article on state/territorial quarters and publish it here.
James the Brazen
Bruce Remick
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
It'll be fair game, James. Otherwise, I have no particular favorite state
quarter, especially after admiring photos of all those Austrian train and
cathedral series issues. What artistry! I doubt our state quarter designs
would have improved much even if given a larger surface to work with. Those
Austrian series would make one collection I would love to own and display.
.
oly
>
> - Show quoted text -
I feel that the Maine Quarter is pretty great, especially in view of
the coin's relatively small diameter. And yes, I like North Dakota's
and Kansas' buffalos a lot. Alaska's bear is worthy too.
I've seen all the 2009 quarters in circulation now, except the
Northern Marianas coin. They are all pedestrian stuff, but the low
mintages might (just might) cause some demand for them in the future.
oly
Mr. Jaggers
As fussy and careful as I've been at filling my Dansco with them, I harbor
no illusions that they will ever be worth more than 25c apiece. But hey,
that's the way I collected way stuff back in the nineteen mumblies, and
that's the way I still collect stuff today.
I forgot to mention, I hauled a magnificent Conder token home from St.
Louis. It has THE END OF OPPRESSION (no, I'm not yelling, that's the font
on the coin) and a couple of guys celebrating around a big bonfire on one
face, and the names of the three enlightened Thomases - Spence, More, and
Paine - on the other.
James the Old-Fashioned
Mr. Jaggers
[snip]
No way I'm going to subject myself to a withering Remick critique! I've
seen the effect it has on others, and I certainly don't wish to become like
them.
James the Unpublished
Scurvy Dog
"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> It'll be fair game, James. Otherwise, I have no particular favorite state
> quarter, especially after admiring photos of all those Austrian train and
> cathedral series issues. What artistry! I doubt our state quarter designs
> would have improved much even if given a larger surface to work with. Those
> Austrian series would make one collection I would love to own and display.
I see pictures of the Austrian commems in Coin World from time to time and they
are beautiful.
Our coin designers could learn something from them, they seem to have no
conception that a coin is a 3 dimensional sculpture, not a photograph.
mazorj
"Jerry Dennis" <JDen...@aol.com> wrote in message
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As a group, on average I find the territorials to be more appealing than the
typical SQ designs. That probably says something about the political
environments of territories versus states. In a typical state there are too
many constituencies and special interests spread all over the place to have
a unified, coherent vision of the state. Territorial enclaves tend to be
more insular (literally, except for DC) with a smaller number of special
interest constituencies to please or avoid pissing off. On the whole, I
suspect that art was allowed to play a bigger role in the process there.
Winning state SQ designs were not the result of striving for artistic
excellence and inspiring design elements, but finding one that draws the
least resistance from all quarters (double entendre intended). In some
SQ's, a modicum of esthetic appeal still managed to peek through; but the
selection process is heavily biased to squeeze the artistic life out of
whichever design survives the political gauntlet run.
To quote the great numismatic writer Anonymous, "When you try to please
everyone and avoid pissing off anyone, you end up not pleasing anyone and
pissing off everyone."
mazorj
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Be sure to start at your infancy when your uncle showed you the disappearing
quarter trick, list the entire contents of your Whitman quarter folders,
regale us with anecdotes about all those fake mint error SQ's that you
doctored in your garage and sold on eBay, and of course include a complete
bibliography of all your UseNet posts on SQ's.
You're on your own for Chapter 2 et al.
- mazorj, Editorial Advisor Pro Bono
Mr. Jaggers
I started out as a child, and...no, wait, that's already been done.
James the Nostalgic
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>
><som...@some.domain> wrote in message
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>
>> i believe i have one 32 bit xp with legal docs. i will look and hope
>> they're
>> not packed. i have other's on original xp discs but mybe not with
>> authentic
>> docs. those i don't feel good about giving away. and will not, but you do
>> understand as your wording showed. thanks for that. too many people are
>> cavelier about that.
>> i believe mine is xp pro. that work? i will look in the morning.
>
>Pro is okay. Let me know what you find. And yes, I am a stickler about
>only using legitimate OEM.
people who write software for a living should be paid. but i never
really worried about you not being legit. i knew you were as "honest" as
as this society allows. and honest about that.
>
>> no, fixing vinyl is no crime. the choice is playable or garbage. i will
>> repair
>> as far back as 78rpm discs. before that i don't have the expertise.
>> i have to do some real work on a disc sometimes to make it play. but if it
>> doesn't skip, i can restore the surface, (get rid of dirt and spooge, not
>> regroove of course.) and make it sound close to original. the law is
>> minimum
>> processing. just remove scratchy sounds and noise. make it sound as close
>> to
>> new as can.
>
>Okay, that's the same basic approach to proper (minimal) non-professional
>cleaning of coins.
>
>> the soldering a cracked record was a joke. i'm sorry, i forget those not
>> in
>> the biz don't know. broken records can be fixed but that is for the super
>> experts with much tech.
>
>No problem. It sounded too outrageous to be true, but having heard Library
>of Congress audio archivists discuss their highly sophisticated methods to
>pull audio off of decaying media, I didn't want to assume that you were just
>kidding.
think not saveable.
>> i had great teachers, so i know the softwear side of resto. i have done it
>> enough to be good. if anyone has a disc that plays, i will digitize and
>> make
>> cd's for them. no charge to anyone in this group, except postage and cd
>> costs.
>> i will make your not on cd vinyl into a cd and it will sound awesome. it
>> isn't
>> me, it's the amazing music software.
>> need a tune, maz? i will gladly do it for you. it's fun. and you get your
>> record back, of course.
>
>I handle and store my LPs the same way I do with coins. Not even a stray
>fingerprint. And I recently bought a turntable with digital output so I can
>clean up and burn .WAV files on CDs (no lossy .mp3 for me). But thanks
>anyway. Maybe someone else here will take you up on your generous offer.
>
>I do have a project that you may find interesting. I have two acetates of
>me recorded on a coin-operated record machine in an amusement park when I
>was 3. I want to digitize them but have been putting it off for fear of
>messing them up. After 60 years they're probably as fragile as egg shells.
>I'll practice on my new turntable first using some old 45s so I think it
>will go okay (juxtaposing first and second digits and rapping phalanges on
>surface of lignified arboreal substance).
>
>- mazorj the Recordist
>
amusements.
don't like digital tt's. they aren't as good as digitizing yourself.
if you want to send, or post somewhere, wav files, i'll digitize them
and have no need for the physical discs.
just make yourself wav's and only use them as your source.
i have 2 guides for digitizing and they are great.
mazorj
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> don't like digital tt's. they aren't as good as digitizing yourself.
> if you want to send, or post somewhere, wav files, i'll digitize them
> and have no need for the physical discs.
> just make yourself wav's and only use them as your source.
> i have 2 guides for digitizing and they are great.
You lost me there. I thought that capturing to .wav files was "digitizing".
Not the only way, just the best one. It's the audio equivalent of taking
photographs in the RAW file format as opposed to lossy .jpg files. But you
do need the physical disk if the source is on vinyl.
Cheap digital turntables only output a processed .mp3 but mine (I think)
will process it as a .wav file or at the least, run it to my computer's RCA
line in, where I can use my preferred capture software to write it as a .wav
file.
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>
><som...@some.domain> wrote in message
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>
>> don't like digital tt's. they aren't as good as digitizing yourself.
>> if you want to send, or post somewhere, wav files, i'll digitize them
>> and have no need for the physical discs.
>> just make yourself wav's and only use them as your source.
>> i have 2 guides for digitizing and they are great.
>
>You lost me there. I thought that capturing to .wav files was "digitizing".
>Not the only way, just the best one. It's the audio equivalent of taking
>photographs in the RAW file format as opposed to lossy .jpg files. But you
>do need the physical disk if the source is on vinyl.
>
>Cheap digital turntables only output a processed .mp3 but mine (I think)
>will process it as a .wav file or at the least, run it to my computer's RCA
>line in, where I can use my preferred capture software to write it as a .wav
>file.
>
i'll have to look the tech stuff up.
winamp post either or and more. know you got me determined to learn tha.
never even thought about it...like i said, i'm no expert.
it starts with a wav file, so maybe your tt just converts, then encodes.
i reccomend cool edit version 1.2. it's succesor was lame, new company,
i have a full set of stuff for vinyl. let me know if you want the guides.
oly
>
> - Show quoted text -
That Conder sounds nice and funny, I think there is a woodcut of it in
a book on the Eighteenth Century enlightenment that I have been
thumbing through for the last week or two. It is shown at the start
of a chapter on "The End of the Ancient Regime". It is a big
illustrated book dated about 1965 or so.
My big haul of the week was a Lord Nelson's flagship "Foudroyant"
copper relic medal. The photo of it in the auction was very rough
brown and I really thought that I might have bid too much.
When I got the piece, it was actually a glossy chocolate tone with
much iridescence. I was very pleased.
Buying "sight unseen" or photos only, these things don't break in
one's favor all that often.
oly
oly
>
> - Show quoted text -
Of related interest:
http://www.rossallbeach.co.uk/foudroyantnelsonp.htm
oly
"Roßert G. Schaffrath"
> i just saw a virgin islands quarter. it is my favorite and actually the only
> state quarter design i truly like. it has a sparseness and economy of design
> that works well. uncluttered, unfettered by background noise and really
> representative of that part of the world, it looks like the where it's from.
> it really comes across because it doesn't make one think of the other state
> quarter from that area.
> using it with that crappy, outdated and useless obverse with the spaghetti
> hair, it manages to out shine the others by it's simple elegance.
> ymmv, i would like to hear YOUR fave and why.
> anyone seen james?
My favorite in circulating condition is the Mississippi quarter. I
rather like the Magnolia. For proof varieties, I found the Connecticut
design with the Charter Oak to be very nice. The detail of the branches
is quite nice in the proof. In circulation grade, it is not that
impressive.
With the 56 varieties of special quarters, it was interesting to see how
some designs looked spectacular in proof but lousy in circulation or
great in circulation but lousy in proof.
Bruce Remick
""Ro�ert G. Schaffrath"" <rscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The four quarters in my 2008-S clad proof sets have been looking especially
good lately. ; >)