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Bland Allison

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Sep 13, 2008, 3:42:58 PM9/13/08
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I got a 1941 C Newfoundland cent in change today. Looked it up in Krause.
Seems that the "re-engraved date" version may be collectable. I'm not
holding out much hope, but can anyone point me in the direction of a
picture or description of a "re-engraved date?"

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BA

"Qui hic mixerit aut cacarit, habeat deos superos et inferos iratos."

Mr. Jaggers

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Sep 13, 2008, 4:10:48 PM9/13/08
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Bland Allison wrote:
> I got a 1941 C Newfoundland cent in change today. Looked it up in
> Krause. Seems that the "re-engraved date" version may be collectable.
> I'm not holding out much hope, but can anyone point me in the
> direction of a picture or description of a "re-engraved date?"

Neither of the two main references shows the feature. Charlton calls the
1941 feature a doubled die. If that is indeed what the "re-engraved date"
variety is, it should be obvious, even under a 3X glass. Evidently there is
also a "doubled 4" variety.

In any event, you may find a helpful hand here:

http://www.georgemanzcoins.com/newfoundland/smallcents.html

James


Voltronicus

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Sep 13, 2008, 4:48:49 PM9/13/08
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As noted on the Manz site, mintages of Newfie coins are excedingly
low.
MS examples are scarce and have gone up considerably in the last few
years.
Still, a nice type set of F/VF coins could be put together for a
reasonable cost.

Mr. Jaggers

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Sep 13, 2008, 5:25:35 PM9/13/08
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I've always been intrigued by Newfie coins, not only for the low mintages
(some down into four figures), but also in consideration of the land,
people, and culture they were used in. The most intriguing piece of them
all, in my view, is the 1873-H 5c silver coin.

James


Voltronicus

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Sep 13, 2008, 5:35:59 PM9/13/08
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Want to sell me one?
I'll trade you a rare (according to the dealers anyway) 2008 ASE
;)

bgg

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Sep 14, 2008, 11:37:03 AM9/14/08
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On Sep 13, 12:42 pm, Bland Allison <swi...@removeswiperthefox.com>
wrote:

I notice that there's one on eBay right now (not mine). I can't tell
anything from the photo though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CANADA-NEWFOUNDLAND-SMALL-CENT-1941-KM-18-BR-UNC_W0QQitemZ360025622092QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

Mr. Jaggers

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Sep 14, 2008, 12:42:15 PM9/14/08
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I can. The seller is expecting us to take his word for the attribution.

James


Voltronicus

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Sep 14, 2008, 4:30:40 PM9/14/08
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On Sep 14, 12:42 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>
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> I can.  The seller is expecting us to take his word for the attribution.

Likewise for condition.

Bland Allison

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Sep 14, 2008, 10:35:14 PM9/14/08
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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> exclaimed in
news:gahb0...@enews1.newsguy.com:

> I've always been intrigued by Newfie coins, not only for the low
> mintages (some down into four figures), but also in consideration of
> the land, people, and culture they were used in. The most intriguing
> piece of them all, in my view, is the 1873-H 5c silver coin.
>
> James

I was intrigued after looking through Krause. I'll ask Manz for help on
the attribution. I've checked under 3x and 10x and can find nothing
interesting about the date; but then I don't know what I'm looking for.

The coin will, unfortunately, need a little help. It appears to have been
glued on the back. Not much, but definitely a job for a professional.
Further proof from my local liquor store that in rough times people tend to
tear up coin collections and buy booze.

Thanks, everyone!

Bland Allison

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Sep 15, 2008, 11:41:15 AM9/15/08
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Bland Allison <swi...@removeswiperthefox.com> exclaimed in
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> I was intrigued after looking through Krause. I'll ask Manz for help on
> the attribution. I've checked under 3x and 10x and can find nothing
> interesting about the date; but then I don't know what I'm looking for.

Got an immediate answer from George Manz:

"The date should be re-engraved at the bottom of each number. If you can't
see it with a loope, you don't have the hard-to-get variety."

That settles that. I'll have to keep my day job...

Mr. Jaggers

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Sep 15, 2008, 12:03:56 PM9/15/08
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Bland Allison wrote:
> Bland Allison <swi...@removeswiperthefox.com> exclaimed in
> news:Xns9B19C744...@216.196.97.131:
>
>> I was intrigued after looking through Krause. I'll ask Manz for
>> help on the attribution. I've checked under 3x and 10x and can find
>> nothing interesting about the date; but then I don't know what I'm
>> looking for.
>
> Got an immediate answer from George Manz:
>
> "The date should be re-engraved at the bottom of each number. If you
> can't see it with a loope, you don't have the hard-to-get variety."
>
> That settles that. I'll have to keep my day job...

This recalls Jaggers' First Theorem of Numismatics: "The probability that
anyone will stumble across a hard-to-get variety approaches zero."

James


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