Israel cuts currency supply to Palestine
stonej
RWF
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Is there no end to the harm inflicted on the Palestinians by the
illegitimate, gangster zionist entity?
Jim Higgins
You are one blind and racist Nazi wannabe. Show your solidarity with
the poor Hamas folks and go there-soonest.
--
Civis Romanus Sum
RWF
"Jim Higgins" <gordi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You, sir, are a brainwashed ass.
Zionism is an inherently racist political movement.
They continue to butcher the Palestinians and deny them basic human
rights.
Being opposed to zionism doesn't make anyone either racist, anti-semitic
or a Nazi.
The USA's misguided support of Israel is the cause of much of the
problems in the middle east.
RWF
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Mr. Jaggers
[crosspost deleted]
In the Middle East there are multiple factions, each and every one with its
disgusting, lethal mix of politics and religion guiding its every move.
Rational thought is nowhere to be found under such circumstances. We should
feel fortunate that we don't experience this problem here in the U.S. Wait,
...[you finish this thought according to the way you see things].
James
Bruce Remick
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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We should indeed feel fortunate in the US that any surviving animosities
from 150 years ago are gradually disappearing, while the Middle East
factions still harbor grudges from several thousand years ago.
Roger Hunt
writes
don't need money, therefore it is logical to cut the money supply
proportionately.
--
Roger Hunt
mazorj
"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Generally true, but 2,000 years later we still have some who think of
Jews as "Christ killers."
Johnny Pride
inflicted on the Palestinians by the
> illegitimate, gangster zionist entity?
>
Maybe the Jews are trying to prove that they can match Hitler victim for
victim?
Johnny Pride
Israel is the cause of much of the
> problems in the middle east.
>
I think the US should withdraw support for Israel, just as an experiment to
see how long they can survive without any help. It would toughen them up
even more. If they happen to get destroyed, we can then launch an all out
nuclear assault on all countries that possess nuclear weapons and use SDI to
blast incoming missiles when Russia and China launch them at us.
Jim Reston
"America cuts currency supply to Nazi Germany". What an outrage - what
the heck do those arrogant Americans think they're doing by not funding
their enemies. Why those poor little innocent Germans are entitled to
American money and how dare those mean and nasty US Gov't officials take
it away.
Well, well , well it seems those uppity Kikes in the land that they
have the audacity to call Israel (where they've been for the last 2,000
years) actually havetthe temerity to defend themselves and to try to
stave off a second Holocaust. Yes sir, those poor little innocent
"Palestinians" deserve our utmost compassion. As much as they showed to
us after 9/11
So all the people with the two great mental pathologies that explain
their anti-Israel obsession (anti-semitism and Anti-Americanism) crawl
out of the woodwork and infest this newsgroup. Tell you what, if you
hate our government's policies towards our allies and love that
wonderful paradise known as Gaza so much, why don't you get the fuck out
of America and go live there. I'm sure you'd look good in a keffiya with
an explosive vest attached to your body
Johnny Pride
news:15068-496...@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net...
why don't you get the fuck out of America and go live <there.
You mean Amerika, don't you comrade? After 8 years of GWB, it's a brave new
world. Amerika, "livin' the dream". A land of IRS and ATF stormtroopers
The flag stands for an America that once was and is no more, except in
history books.
It stands for the America created by our founders, who would be considered
dangerous subversive radicals and a threat by today's wealthy self-serving
lawmakers. America today is a land for the illegal aliens who have gotten
amnesty so the wealthy can have a servant class, cheap labor, a prison
industry and free perpetual prison labor. It is a land "by the wealthy
elitists for the wealthy elitists". A land that exports it's jobs and
industry to other countries. A land that has turned its back on the little
people whose sweat and hard work are what made America great and prosperous.
You're living in the new Amerika now comrade, and the founders are turning
in their graves because of what a once great nation has become.....a
paradise for the elitists who ship American jobs overseas. No more Made in
USA. American industry and pride is almost gone.
Mr. Jaggers
Just exactly whom are you calling a "Kike"?
James
Mr. Jaggers
> "Jim Reston" <jrn...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:15068-496...@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net...
> why don't you get the fuck out of America and go live <there.
>
> You mean Amerika, don't you comrade? After 8 years of GWB, it's a
> brave new world. Amerika, "livin' the dream". A land of IRS and ATF
> stormtroopers
>
> The flag stands for an America that once was and is no more, except in
> history books.
> It stands for the America created by our founders, who would be
> considered dangerous subversive radicals and a threat by today's
> wealthy self-serving lawmakers.
My history book reports that our founders were considered dangerous
subversive radicals and a threat by the wealthy self-serving lawmakers of
the 1770s.
James
Bruce Remick
"Johnny Pride" <fullo...@briny.org> wrote in message
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> "Jim Reston" <jrn...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:15068-496...@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net...
> why don't you get the fuck out of America and go live <there.
>
> You mean Amerika, don't you comrade? After 8 years of GWB, it's a brave
> new
> world. Amerika, "livin' the dream". A land of IRS and ATF stormtroopers
>
> The flag stands for an America that once was and is no more, except in
> history books.
And in your mind. You sound like one more internet whiner whose
contributions to his society consist of anonymous rants like this.
> It stands for the America created by our founders, who would be considered
> dangerous subversive radicals and a threat by today's wealthy self-serving
> lawmakers. America today is a land for the illegal aliens who have gotten
> amnesty so the wealthy can have a servant class, cheap labor, a prison
> industry and free perpetual prison labor. It is a land "by the wealthy
> elitists for the wealthy elitists".
A goal few other countries can offer.
> A land that exports it's jobs and
> industry to other countries. A land that has turned its back on the
> little
> people whose sweat and hard work are what made America great and
> prosperous.
Ah. So you are one of those "little people" who just lost his job. It's
clear now. Blame the country, the administration, and all rich people.
> You're living in the new Amerika now comrade, and the founders are turning
> in their graves because of what a once great nation has become.....a
> paradise for the elitists who ship American jobs overseas. No more Made
> in
> USA. American industry and pride is almost gone.
I sure can't wait to become wealthy, even if it will mean I'll be considered
an elitist. Boy! You oughta get out a little more.
Jim Reston
Bruce Remick
"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Fortunately, there must be few enough that I have never run across any vocal
ones in my lifetime. Most of our past in-house grievences are gradually
diluted every decade as people relocate around the country, more immigrants
arrive, and old folks die.
Mr. Jaggers
> Used as irony and satire
Your effort would earn an "F" in every one of the English classes I ever
attended.
James
Jim Reston
But I still believe that Lincoln's statement that America is the last
and best hope of humanity and I firmly belive that America is the
greatest nation in all of human history. People who bash America and can
only see its shortcomings are spoiled ingrates who have no idea how good
they have it here. Compared to 98%+ of how the rest of humanity live and
what they have to endure every day, we should be thankful for our
blessings I'm proud and honered to be living in this great land
Mr. Jaggers
I agree with everything above, provided that offering constructive criticism
in order to make our great country even greater is not classified as
"bashing America." Over the past fifteen to twenty years it has
unfortunately become very fashionable on the part of certain very
influential media personalities to classify it thus, and on the part of
certain of their disciples to then spread that false premise around like so
much manure.
James
RWF
> Fortunately, there must be few enough that I have never run across any
> vocal ones in my lifetime. Most of our past in-house grievences are
> gradually diluted every decade as people relocate around the country,
> more immigrants arrive, and old folks die.
They seem to be hanging out at soc.culture.usa
Bruce Remick
"RWF" <R...@200901.invalid> wrote in message
Good. Maybe they're all in one place posting to each other.
Peter
> "Jim Higgins" <gordian...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f76dnZAU_siNCPHU...@posted.eaglecomputertechnology...
>
> > RWF wrote:
>
> >> "stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
> >>news:98c3ed9b-6c78-43ce...@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Is there no end to the harm inflicted on the Palestinians by the
> >> illegitimate, gangster zionist entity?
>
> > You are one blind and racist Nazi wannabe. Show your solidarity with
> > the poor Hamas folks and go there-soonest.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
It was a horrible incident. It is something that I think the Israel
government attempted in cold blood and for reasons that are unclear.
It was also, I believe, in large measure a failure of the US
leadership. Many, including a former CNO insist that the formal
report is not the whole story.
mazorj
Cultural changes make it less acceptable to voice opinions like that
but it's the dying off that does the real job of eliminating opinions,
including prejudice. We all know of some situation where "It ain't
gonna end until the last one retires, moves away, or dies" whether it
be a workplace issue, a family squabble, or some wider issue.
The difference is in the culture. Here we are less tied to the past
so we frown on visiting the sins of the father on the children. Any
dispute that lasts much beyond one generation is a notable exception,
like the Hatfield-McCoy feud. In some cultures it is a matter of
honor for you to seek revenge for the time when somebody's
umpteenth-great-grandfather stole your umpteenth-great-grandfather's
pig, or pillaged his village, or introduced a heretical religion.
It's a mindset that is totally alien to our Western values.
Ditto for the concept of martyrdom. Two millennia ago, Christian
martyrs were revered as heroes. Today, the idea of dying for one's
religion is foreign to Westerners except for the most pious
individuals. At most we might sacrifice ourselves to save our family
or, in war, to save our comrades. That's one of the reasons why we
are not doing a good job of fighting terrorism. The idea of me
strapping on a bomb and detonating it in a crowd of "infidels" simply
is not on my mental radar screen. Despite the evidence, we're like
the ancient Roman pagans who "just didn't get it" when members of this
new mystery cult - Christians - were willing to die rather than
renounce their faith in some obscure Jewish rabble-rouser. Some 2,000
years later, we in the West have forgotten the martyr mentality even
though we can see that we still have cultures where martyrdom not only
is acceptable, it is to be sought as a route to eternal salvation in
an afterlife. As with the Romans, every time we kill one of the
opposition (especially "collateral damage" civilians), we motivate
others to join the opposition.
Bruce Remick
I pretty much agree there. There seem to be few cultures, especially in the
Middle East, where getting dissed or having one's ass kicked leads to useful
negotiation.
Jim Higgins
There is a major difference in martyr=willing to die rather than
renounce your faith and martyr=willing to kill yourself and numerous
others for your faith (aka homicide bomber).
--
Civis Romanus Sum
Bob Golden
"stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
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> http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=6023
One wonders why Israel bothers to supply their enemies with currency in the
first place.
Johnny Pride
>
> Good. Maybe they're all in one place posting to each other.
>
>
I heard most of the regulars there are Jew hating faggots.
Jim Reston
continue to occur. But to claim it was deliberate by one of America's
staunchest supporters and allies just boggles the imagination. Well for
most decent people anyway. But anti semites from the Ku Klux Klan to the
American Nazi party have used this incident for the last 40+ years to
advance their own sick, paranoid, and anti-semitic agenda. Its a shame
that you signed on to it too
Jim Reston
their self evident humanity to a cold and indiferent world that only
seeks to curry favor with their Islamic masters
Johnny Pride
> I sure can't wait to become wealthy, even if it will mean I'll be
considered
> an elitist. Boy! You oughta get out a little more.
Remick, the gubmint loves sheep like you, that are living in Fantasyland.
You're just like the sleepers in the movie Matrix. Keep the blinders and
the earmuffs on and you'll do just fine.
Johnny Pride
I firmly belive that America is the
<greatest nation in all of human history.
Jim, it was the greatest nation, up until about 20 years ago. There are
many nations now that have more freedom than the US, which has dropped from
1st to 17th in a mere 20 years. Yes, I equate freedom with greatness, as
should anyone worth their weight in fresh souls.
Johnny Pride
People who bash America and can only see its shortcomings are spoiled
ingrates who have no idea how good they have it here. Compared to 98%+ of
how the rest of humanity live and what they have to endure every day, we
should be thankful for our
blessings I'm proud and honered to be living in this <great land
You just need to get out more, so you'll realize what you've lost. I'd
rather teach someone how to think instead of teaching them how to believe.
Johnny Pride
> Its called "friendly fire" and tragically accidents have and will always
continue to occur. But to claim it was deliberate by one of America's
staunchest supporters <and allies just boggles the imagination.
Keep drinking the KoolAid, Reston. Israel intentionally destroyed the
Liberty because it was intercepting their encryption codes and would have
dispatched the reel to reel intercept back to the agency for deciphering. I
used to work at the Puzzle Palace.
RWF
Only knuckleheads like you confuse anti-zionism with anti-semitism.
Israel is a racist state. Our alliance with them has brought us nothing
but grief.
Pragmatically, alliance with oil-producing Arab nations makes much more
sense.
RWF
> Good question. I believe its in a naive and fruitless attempt to prove
> their self evident humanity to a cold and indiferent world that only
> seeks to curry favor with their Islamic masters
Ah yes, their great "humanity" proven by their bombing schools and
hospitals and murdering children.
Bruce Remick
The government did fine by me during my "fantasyland" of 35 years of govt
service. What's the basis for YOUR tired childish rants besides those
movies you apparently watch, and stuff you hear your buddies saying? Talk
about blinders, get off your mother's porch and away from your video games
and try to experience the real world instead of whining about it.
Jim Reston
Jim Reston
of year
Jim Reston
Broadcasting Corporation, Caliphate News Network, and the New Beirut
Times
Avi Argaman
was dancing in the streets and handing out candy to celebrate the murder
of Americans?
Bruce Remick
> Broadcasting Corporation, Caliphate News Network, and the New Beirut
> Times
>
and Sheik Yabouti.
RWF
"Avi Argaman" <aat...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Do you believe the Arabs would have been dancing if the USA hadn't been
backing the illegimate state of Israel since its inception?
RWF
> Broadcasting Corporation, Caliphate News Network, and the New Beirut
> Times
And you keep parroting the zionist propaganda, you dullard.
Johnny Pride
have been dancing if the USA hadn't been
> backing the illegimate state of Israel since its inception?
>
Israel was founded upon a stack of shithouse lies anyway. The only deity
that exists is the one living in the fantasies of weak-minded sheep that
need a crutch to lean on.
Jim Reston
War when U.S. Troops were statiioned in Saudi Arabia. Thus soiling a
pure Islamic land with infidels in their view. They sought to avenge
this "insult" to their honor by plotting against us. Nothing to do with
Israel shithead. Read the 9/11 report
Jim Reston
lunatic rantings of crazed Jihadists and America haters that you believe
in
Johnny Pride
> The government did fine by me during my "fantasyland" of 35 years of govt
> service.
While you were hiding under your boss' desk at the post office, US Mint or
wherever the hell you worked, I was traveling all over the world gathering
intel to keep you and your family safe from communism. Now all I see is
intelligence gathering on our own citizens. In 2011, the stormtroopers will
be able to check and see what groceries you're buying with that debit card
thanks to Nazis like Christopher Dodd who introduced the electronic payment
surveillance bill which was then passed into law by our corrupt lawmakers.
Johnny Pride
> If you hate it here so much then leave. I hear Somalia's great this time
> of year
>
Somalia isn't, but the Philippines are if you live in a gated community and
have a housekeeper. I live there for 5 months a year. You can live like a
king on $300 a month. What can you do in the US for $300 a month? Maybe
pay your utility bill?
Jim Reston
of their existence with no U.S. aid at all
Johnny Pride
subversive radicals and a threat by the wealthy self-serving lawmakers of
the 1770s.
The king was the lawmaker then. Unless I woke up in Russia this morning,
we're no longer governed by a crown, but by an indigenous tyrannical
government headquarted in Washington D.C.
GWB did think he was a king though.
mazorj
"Jim Higgins" <gordi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:S5ednezfWZHK1PPU...@posted.eaglecomputertechnology...>> news:q2bbl.7693$1k1....@newsfe14.iad...
>>> "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:nl6bl.18$eX3...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...>>>> news:WF1bl.30786$JA5....@newsfe08.iad...
>>>>> "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:gki81...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>>>>> Jim Higgins wrote:
>>>>>>> RWF wrote:
>>>>>>>> "stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:98c3ed9b-6c78-43ce...@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>> http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=6023
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> illegitimate, gangster zionist entity?
>>>>>>> You are one blind and racist Nazi wannabe. Show your
>>>>>>> solidarity with
>>>>>>> the poor Hamas folks and go there-soonest.
>>>>>> [crosspost deleted]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the Middle East there are multiple factions, each and every
>>>>>> one with its disgusting, lethal mix of politics and religion
>>>>>> guiding its every move. Rational thought is nowhere to be found
>>>>>> under such circumstances. We should feel fortunate that we
>>>>>> don't experience this problem here in the U.S. Wait, ...[you
>>>>>> finish this thought according to the way you see things].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>> We should indeed feel fortunate in the US that any surviving
>>>>> animosities from 150 years ago are gradually disappearing, while
>>>>> the Middle East factions still harbor grudges from several
>>>>> thousand years ago.
>>>> Generally true, but 2,000 years later we still have some who
>>>> think of Jews as "Christ killers."
>>> Fortunately, there must be few enough that I have never run across
>>> any vocal ones in my lifetime. Most of our past in-house
>>> grievences are gradually diluted every decade as people relocate
>>> around the country, more immigrants arrive, and old folks die.
>>
>> Cultural changes make it less acceptable to voice opinions like
>> that but it's the dying off that does the real job of eliminating
>> opinions, including prejudice. We all know of some situation where
>> "It ain't gonna end until the last one retires, moves away, or
>> dies" whether it be a workplace issue, a family squabble, or some
>> wider issue.
>>
>> The difference is in the culture. Here we are less tied to the
>> past so we frown on visiting the sins of the father on the
>> children. Any dispute that lasts much beyond one generation is a
>> notable exception, like the Hatfield-McCoy feud. In some cultures
>> it is a matter of honor for you to seek revenge for the time when
>> somebody's umpteenth-great-grandfather stole your
>> umpteenth-great-grandfather's pig, or pillaged his village, or
>> introduced a heretical religion. It's a mindset that is totally
>> alien to our Western values.
>>
>> Ditto for the concept of martyrdom. Two millennia ago, Christian
>> martyrs were revered as heroes. Today, the idea of dying for one's
>> religion is foreign to Westerners except for the most pious
>> individuals. At most we might sacrifice ourselves to save our
>> family or, in war, to save our comrades. That's one of the reasons
>> why we are not doing a good job of fighting terrorism. The idea of
>> me strapping on a bomb and detonating it in a crowd of "infidels"
>> simply is not on my mental radar screen. Despite the evidence,
>> we're like the ancient Roman pagans who "just didn't get it" when
>> members of this new mystery cult - Christians - were willing to die
>> rather than renounce their faith in some obscure Jewish
>> rabble-rouser. Some 2,000 years later, we in the West have
>> forgotten the martyr mentality even though we can see that we still
>> have cultures where martyrdom not only is acceptable, it is to be
>> sought as a route to eternal salvation in an afterlife. As with
>> the Romans, every time we kill one of the opposition (especially
>> "collateral damage" civilians), we motivate others to join the
>> opposition.
>
> There is a major difference in martyr=willing to die rather than
> renounce your faith and martyr=willing to kill yourself and numerous
> others for your faith (aka homicide bomber).
In the ends but not in the means.
Factor in the fact that many Muslims mistakenly believe that the West
is out to destroy their religion and the difference between the two
shrinks somewhat. The logic - such as there is of it - is that the
religiously motivated "terrorist martyr" believes that he is defending
against attempts by the Satanic West to extinguish his religion, on
the fear that the next step would be attempts to extinguish his faith
and the faith of all other Muslims. So in a fashion, he is resisting
(future) attempts to get him to renounce his faith.
Anyway, I was talking about the practical effects of beliefs and
values and mental states, not the moral or logical validity of
martyrdom.
Bruce Remick
None of the people I worked with in your "Puzzle Palace" would have boasted
about where they worked in an open discussion group unless they were clerks,
janitors, or fired jerks who felt they hadn't got enough recognition.
Which one or two are you? I have a suspicion. Hope you enjoyed your
worldwide "intelligence gathering". But our ICBMs and SLBMs kept us free
from Communism. Not you. You sure have a big head. Must have been a
really great guy to work with.
Bruce Remick
So why come back? A month a year for seven years and you'll be weaned on
the US altogether. What a loss.
RWF
Keep spouting the zionist party line, you brainwashed dolt.
BTW: PLONK
James Weston
> None of the people I worked with in your "Puzzle Palace" would have
boasted about where they worked in an open discussion group unless they were
clerks, janitors, or fired jerks who felt they hadn't got enough
recognition.
Keep dreamin'
Bruce Remick
"James Weston" <les...@bress.org> wrote in message
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About what?
Peter
> Its called "friendly fire" and tragically accidents have and will always
> continue to occur. But to claim it was deliberate by one of America's
> staunchest supporters and allies just boggles the imagination. Well for
> most decent people anyway. But anti semites from the Ku Klux Klan to the
> American Nazi party have used this incident for the last 40+ years to
> advance their own sick, paranoid, and anti-semitic agenda. Its a shame
> that you signed on to it too
If your response is not just anger, and you believe this you should
examine the book that the survivors of the crew of the Liberty wrote.
It is a careful and literate discussion ("Assault on the Liberty", by
James Ennes, but with help from the crew). The views of the CNO who
actually had all the facts, are also of interest.