Ebay scams coin dealers
Alan Hardin
since 1999. Ebay was fun when it was new. Now thay have some ridiculous
"Buyer Complaint" where anyone can complain that they item is not as
described and ebay automatically takes their word. I sold a 2006 Buffalo
one ounce 24 carat gold coin to a man in Tuson, Arizona and he claimed it
was NAD. He said he thought it was slabed. I said noting about slabing in
the listing, I order these BULLION coins from Dillon Gage in Eddison, Texas
and they are still sealed in the rippled plastic sheets direct from the US
Mint. Gold had dropped about $40 an ounce since the buyer bought this coin
so I figured that he was using me as insurance against a gold drop, so yeah
the most I could loose was the $40 gold decline and I would relist. Much to
my dismay Paypal had taken the money out of my account but what I received
was a $50 gold buffalo gold plated replica marked COPY. There is nothing I
can do because Paypal has proof that the item was returned by the buyer even
though it is not the same coin. I am giving this warning to people that
this feature is grossly misused. Due to this and some other issues, I feel
that I will end my ebay days. It is truly much too taxing on me emotionally
and physically. They are far from being on the side of the seller. My wife
is seriously ill and I thought that some of the gold that I put back during
good times would help us when we needed it. I would of been better off
taking it to the scammers that sets up at motels and runs ads in the paper
and pay half of what stuff is worth. At least half is better than zero.
I hate ebay!!!!!
Clams
Gold had dropped about $40 an ounce
> since the buyer bought this coin so I figured that he was using me as
> insurance against a gold drop, so yeah the most I could loose was the
> $40 gold decline and I would relist.
>
> I hate ebay!!!!!
>
I hate loosing money.
Lumpy
Are your auction descriptions as long winded and aimless as
your usenet posts?
Be sure you stress the part about your wife being seriously
ill when you try and sell your counterfeit crap.
Try putting up flyers at Waffle House.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for Fifty Years!
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PeterD
wrote:
And when you filed the police report, they said? And the postal
inspectors said?
BrotherBart
> Alan Hardin wrote:
>> I sell about 30-40 numismatic items a month on ebay.
>
> Are your auction descriptions as long winded and aimless as
> your usenet posts?
>
> Be sure you stress the part about your wife being seriously
> ill when you try and sell your counterfeit crap.
>
> Try putting up flyers at Waffle House.
>
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for Fifty Years!
> www.LumpyMusic.com
>
>
And be sure that the flyers mention the ANA code of ethics because you
get the magazine.
BTW: Where is Frank lately? Him and Butt Boy execute a suicide pact or
something?
Bremick
"Alan Hardin" <al...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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So, 30-40 numismatic items a month projects to 360-480 items per year or
3960 - 5280 over your eBay membership. If this is the first auction you've
had go sour and you are blaming eBay for it, well........ Is this post
meant to warn others to avoid aBay because you once reportedly had a crooked
bidder? How many of those thousands of numismatic items would you likely
have sold without eBay? Perhaps you would have been better off putting
the money you spent on that gold into some conservative bonds if you planned
to sell it whenever you needed money. If you truly believe you would have
been better off selling all your gold to hotel scammers at half value
(because of one experience?), what had you been selling on eBay all along
for prices that apparently pleased you?
You shouldn't "hate".
Ignoramus6705
industrial surplus and do not get that sort of mistreatment.
i
Lumpy
> Perhaps you would have been better off putting the money you
Or on all you can eat night at Waffle House.
Alan Hardin
"BrotherBart" <noth...@nomail.net> wrote in message
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> And be sure that the flyers mention the ANA code of ethics because you get
> the magazine.
>
> BTW: Where is Frank lately? Him and Butt Boy execute a suicide pact or
> something?
>
>
>
>
I found this chat room on the ANA website but I have received no help at
all, no thanks for trying to warn people,
I am just seeing stupid comments and mocking me. Is this not the pace to go
for help with coins and ebay seller issues?
If not I am so sorry for bothering you...
Lumpy
> I found this chat room on the ANA website...
Two coin dealers walk into a chat room...
Kris Baker
"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
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> Alan Hardin wrote:
>> I found this chat room on the ANA website...
>
> Two coin dealers walk into a chat room...
...and loudly announce that they've left a hundred thousand
dollars worth of coins....
Pogonip
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Jerry Dennis
> "BrotherBart" <notha...@nomail.net> wrote in message
You made a mistake of saying anything on AMOE. Too many a**holes over
there, which is why I trimmed them out of this response (RCC-ers know
what I'm talking about). I note there are 12 posts on your subject
and NONE of them (other than me) are RCC-ers.
Your warning really doesn't deserve comment. You got screwed by ebay
and have no recourse other than calling the police in the town where
that scumbag lives and filing a complaint. Other than that, all we
can do is sympathise.
Jerry
GlennR
> Bremick wrote:
>> Perhaps you would have been better off putting the money you
>> spent on that gold into some conservative bonds ...
>
> Or on all you can eat night at Waffle House.
>
>
sgt23
They may never have an all you can eat night, but later that night
there will be a all you shit night in the bathroom. ;)
Lumpy
Lump:
> > all you can eat night at Waffle House.
GlennR:
> which night is that ?
It's any night you wan't. Waffle House, like all restaurants,
is a public place. They don't have the right to refuse
anyones request. Just go there and DEMAND the
all you can eat coin trader special.
Clams
> Alan Hardin wrote:
>
>>I found this chat room on the ANA website...
>
>
> Two coin dealers walk into a chat room...
>
>
and ask "does anyone know what time it is?"
BJ
wrote:
>
Hey Alan,
You crossposted to a troll group, and it's not the one you're reading
this in...
I've not jumped into the whole eBay thing for just the reason you
stated. Fraud artists. Scammers. Criminals. Overgraders. ;-)
If I do, I'll probably end up videotaping everything I put into an
envelope, and seal it with a marque of some sort, like a postal
tracking sticker (that has a unique ID), and on the opposite
end, video taping the opening of items I receive.
What else can you do? EBay seems to have lost it's corporate mind.
BJ
--
I have nothing important to say...
Farmer Dave
wrote:
>I sell about 30-40 numismatic items a month on ebay. I've been on ebay
try calling PayPal and if all else fails file a small claims law
suit.......
PeterD
wrote:
>
>"BrotherBart" <noth...@nomail.net> wrote in message
>news:i2qbup$al8$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> And be sure that the flyers mention the ANA code of ethics because you get
>> the magazine.
>>
>> BTW: Where is Frank lately? Him and Butt Boy execute a suicide pact or
>> something?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>I found this chat room
What's a chat room?
>on the ANA website but I have received no help
We helped you, you just didn't like our answers.
>at
>all, no thanks for trying to warn people,
Warn us? Really, didn't know you cared so much about us.
>I am just seeing stupid comments and mocking me.
No, skip over your post and you will see more intellegent stuff.
>Is this not the pace to go
>for help with coins
Nope, this is not alt.marketing.bogus.coins
>and ebay seller issues?
And your seller issue is?
>
>If not I am so sorry for bothering you...
>
I gave you the right answer already. Did you file the police report?
Did you file a postal fraud report with the post office (you mailed
the coins, right?)
PeterD
<lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:
>Alan Hardin wrote:
>> I found this chat room on the ANA website...
>
>Two coin dealers walk into a chat room...
>
And say "You got any waffles here?"
ImperialCoins
(interstate crime is federal) then call PayPal and tell them you filed
a police report.
Alfred
Isti Mirant Stella
> File a police report and/or report with Postal Inspectors or FBI
> (interstate crime is federal) then call PayPal and tell them you filed
> a police report.
And yet you Americans complain about the size and reach of government? I
feel right at home.
Kris Baker
"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> On 7/28/2010 7:48 PM, Kris Baker wrote:
>>
>> "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
>> news:8bc7dq...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Alan Hardin wrote:
>>>> I found this chat room on the ANA website...
>>>
>>> Two coin dealers walk into a chat room...
>>
>> ...and loudly announce that they've left a hundred thousand
>> dollars worth of coins....
>
> ...in the trunk of their car in the parking lot of the pancake house.
....and it's the Mercedes parked out front with the Alabammy license
plates.......
Kris
Kris Baker
"GlennR" <Gle...@teranews.com> wrote in message
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Any night.
I've always had "all I can eat" at Waffle House (and always left
some on the plate).
Grampa's old joke:
Two coin dealers walk into a restaurant
The sign says "Spaghetti $10" (or "all you can eat for $15")
They each finish their plates, and the waitress asked if there's anything
else
Each says "No, I've had all I can eat."
Bill? $15 each.
Kris
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>On Jul 28, 10:25 pm, "Alan Hardin" <al...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I found this chat room on the ANA website but I have received no help at
>> all, no thanks for trying to warn people,
>> I am just seeing stupid comments and mocking me. Is this not the pace to
>> go
>> for help with coins and ebay seller issues?
>>
>> If not I am so sorry for bothering you...
>You made a mistake of saying anything on AMOE. Too many a**holes over
>there, which is why I trimmed them out of this response (RCC-ers know
>what I'm talking about). I note there are 12 posts on your subject
>and NONE of them (other than me) are RCC-ers.
Right!
We have a couple of resident trolls, try not feeding them.
>Your warning really doesn't deserve comment. You got screwed by ebay
>and have no recourse other than calling the police in the town where
>that scumbag lives and filing a complaint.
That's really the only thing you can do!
Good luck.
gogu
Alan Hardin
"ImperialCoins" <alfred...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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PeterD
wrote:
>Thank you sir for the kind help.
>
>
>"ImperialCoins" <alfred...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:290b4a15-8416-418f...@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>File a police report and/or report with Postal Inspectors or FBI
>(interstate crime is federal) then call PayPal and tell them you filed
>a police report.
>
>Alfred
>
I told you that a long time ago, but you didn't want to hear it... Now
you realize that is the only useful path, good. So at least two people
gave you the right answer, but you continue to whine and cry...
Lumpy
> ... but you continue to whine and cry...
And top post.
Alan Hardin
conservative
bond would do this in 4 years. So even if I sold for 1/2 melt to the
crooked dealers I still
would of broke even.
But I have zero unless the postal investigation service can do something.
SO WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TELLING ME NOT TO HATE!!!!!
"Bremick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Alan Hardin
MOCK hurting people? Why are you calling my post aimless when all I did was
step by step list my personal experience with ebay and paypal. I ask for
nothing and made this post to WARN OTHER PEOPLE.
"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
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> Are your auction descriptions as long winded and aimless as
> your usenet posts?
>
> Be sure you stress the part about your wife being seriously
> ill when you try and sell your counterfeit crap.
>
> Try putting up flyers at Waffle House.
Lumpy
> My coins are NOT counterfeit!!!
Yes they are.
> Who are you to accuse me?
I am Helen Wallace's lover. We used to lie on the
floor in front of the fireplace, sipping Dr Pepper,
and she would tell me all about your schemes and
crooked deals. I've known about you for years.
If you continue to top post, I'll be forced to
notify the ANA, the Waffle House administration
and the TX gay rodeo riders union.
Bremick
"Alan Hardin" <al...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I bought my gold at $580 in 2006, now its nearly $1200..over double. What
>conservative
> bond would do this in 4 years. So even if I sold for 1/2 melt to the
> crooked dealers I still
> would of broke even.
Good for you. So what is all your bitching about??
>
> But I have zero unless the postal investigation service can do something.
> SO WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TELLING ME NOT TO HATE!!!!!
Bremick. And I didn't tell you NOT to hate. I just said you shouldn't. So
go ahead, hate away. Any more questions?
Jud
Very tiresome, and BORING!!!
Jud -Header Trimmer-
BrotherBart
> Alan Hardin wrote:
>> My coins are NOT counterfeit!!!
>
> Yes they are.
>
>> Who are you to accuse me?
>
> I am Helen Wallace's lover. We used to lie on the
> floor in front of the fireplace, sipping Dr Pepper,
> and she would tell me all about your schemes and
> crooked deals. I've known about you for years.
>
admitted it.
Lumpy
Lump:
> > I am Helen Wallace's lover.
Bart:
> What? I just knew that the bitch was two timing me.
We met in Duluth.
PeterD
wrote:
>My coins are NOT counterfeit!!! Who are you to accuse me? Who are you to
>MOCK hurting people? Why are you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqRPOEa3P44 ah, this must be you. Why?
Why? WHY?
Bremick
"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> *YAWN*
> Very tiresome, and BORING!!!
>
> Jud -Header Trimmer-
>
Very interesting response. Thank you for sharing your insightful opinion.
You added a lot.
"Roßert G. Schaffrath"
> Much to my dismay Paypal had taken the money
> out of my account but what I received was a $50 gold buffalo gold plated
> replica marked COPY. There is nothing I can do because Paypal has proof
> that the item was returned by the buyer even though it is not the same
> coin. I am giving this warning to people that this feature is grossly
> misused.
>
>
I have had one or two issues too but non-coin and nothing of any real
value ( < $10). Frankly, if I were going to sell anything of high value
I would either avoid eBay altogether or say no shipping, FTF only. When
doing the FTF I would have the buyer examine the item and sign a receipt
saying the item is accepted. There are too many ways for a buyer to
scam the system now.