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Christopher Flynn

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May 24, 2001, 11:18:35 PM5/24/01
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Hi all, I've been thinking about getting the 5.10 Dragon shoes since I first
saw them. I haven't had a chance to try them on yet which will probably be
the ultimate test as to whether or not I get them but I was wondering if
anyone has a pair or tried them out and what your comments are on them.
Their a bit pricey but the review in the latest climbing magazine was good,
I was mainly wondering, if I forget my all-purpose shoes will they be ok or
will I be cursing the fact that I have only them when I'm not on steep rock
(which is what Climbing magazine said they were best for).
-Chris
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Hardman Knott

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May 26, 2001, 5:34:15 PM5/26/01
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"Christopher Flynn" <Christopher...@drexel.edu> wrote in message news:<9ekivf$auc$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>...

> Hi all, I've been thinking about getting the 5.10 Dragon shoes since I first
> saw them. I haven't had a chance to try them on yet which will probably be
> the ultimate test as to whether or not I get them but I was wondering if
> anyone has a pair or tried them out and what your comments are on them.
> Their a bit pricey but the review in the latest climbing magazine was good,
> I was mainly wondering, if I forget my all-purpose shoes will they be ok or
> will I be cursing the fact that I have only them when I'm not on steep rock
> (which is what Climbing magazine said they were best for).
>
> Unfortunately, the Dragon appears to be an inferior replacement
for the Rock Sock. One person I know has blown-out 2 pairs already,
and has sworn-off 5.10 products in favor of La Sportiva.
Another friend has also blown-out a pair in a very short time as
well.

Perhaps whoever makes marketing descisions at 5.10 would do well to
put down the crack pipe and stop messing with or discontinuing
classic and successful shoes such as Rock Sock, Anasazi Lace-up,
Hueco, ect. Unless of course customer loyalty is no big deal...

Hardman Knott

lucky

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May 28, 2001, 5:00:37 PM5/28/01
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Hey I'm not the only one who realizes 5.10 doesn't make shoes for there
loyal customers.
Yea I tried the Dragons at the shoe demo like all there syn. shoes they only
fit that certain size (I haven't met that climber yet )They don't break in
after time.Believe me I'm loyal to 5.10 or at least there rubber and have
tried every shoe they have made for the last five years .And Velcro sucks
it's always wears out.If 5.10 doesn't wake up they will lose there loyal
customers beware 5.10 other shoes can be resoled or other companies could
develop a better rubber.WARNING 5.10 DON"T even think of messing with the
red slipper or we will be gone!!!!! Yea the Reps do lurk this news group
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Tim Stich

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May 28, 2001, 6:07:56 PM5/28/01
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lucky wrote:

> WARNING 5.10 DON"T even think of messing with the
> red slipper or we will be gone!!!!!

I'll second that. I bought my second pair of Moccasyms recently and had the
first pair resoled. I tossed the other shoes and wouldn't even consider paying
money to resole them. For $100, Moccasyms are a good deal. One cent more and I
will be happy to start mail ordering Bufos or anything that comes in at or
below $100. I'm sorry, but you can shove $140 for shoes. I got a pair of
Stingers years ago for $145 and was pretty sour when they didn't work out. At
least I could have eaten the cost of a $100 pair. Luckily, I unloaded the
Stingers on someone who could tolerate the pain.

Note to competitors: Market a slipper just under $100 and I'll leave 5.10 when
they discontinue the Moccasym, no problem.

-Tim Stich

Shilajit T Gangulee

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May 29, 2001, 3:54:09 PM5/29/01
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Tim Stich (tims...@swbell.net) wrote:

: Note to competitors: Market a slipper just under $100 and I'll leave 5.10 when


: they discontinue the Moccasym, no problem.

Sportiva's Cobra (best shoe ever), Scarpa's Minima and Boreal's Ninja are
all under $100, I think.

-tico

susanpeplow

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May 30, 2001, 2:03:14 AM5/30/01
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i didn't know much about the dragon until this years phoenix bouldering contest
(probably still dont)

surprisingly, two people actually requested them from the swag that came in for
the comp. the shoe is quite extreme and is definitely built for pockets and
hard climbing. both of the climbers who requested the shoe climb difficult
routes in the 13+ range.

unfortunately, i agree with the others...price is high and 5.10 seems to have
planned obsolescence and/or replacement with their shoes.

my suggestion, try them at a demo at your local gym or upcoming event. the
reps are great, demo's are free and you won't be in a situation of purchasing a
$140+ shoe with no hopes of ever walking again.

contact 5.10 for a list of upcomming demo's in your area.

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