Cell phones to work on Mt.Rainier
Vladimir Kelman
Does someone have experience with using cell phone on Mount Rainier? I'm
interested in any info: which phones work, which do not work, what's the
best choice?
There will be several groups of us, climbing various routes; we're going
to use cell phones to communicate between groups and in a case of
emergency too.
Thanks!
Vlad.
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wasnt that great, hes never got it to work anywhere else on the mountain
including camp Muir. Pretty much useless for inter party comms or
emergency.
Dave
Benoit Hudson
> There will be several groups of us, climbing various routes; we're going
> to use cell phones to communicate between groups and in a case of
> emergency too.
Why not walkie-talkies?
-- Benoit
Vladimir Kelman
Yes, we're going to use them to communicate between rope teams, if
necessary. But to spoke to another group or to call rescue we think we
need cell phones.
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Vladimir Kelman
clim...@my-deja.com wrote:
> My partner had one and we used it on the summit a month ago, still
> wasnt that great, hes never got it to work anywhere else on the
mountain
> including camp Muir. Pretty much useless for inter party comms or
> emergency.
>
> Dave
Its interesting that I received the email from
dfrey...@aol.com (DFreymeyer), he says "depends on where and how high
you are. they will all work at one point or another- you are high
enough."
Quite opposite to what you say! I wonder if it is because of wrong type
of phone you have used. That's why I posted my question here.
Robert Stockhouse
on the mountain.
1) ATT (Analog Service Only)
2) Airtouch (Analog Service Only)
Depending on the route and where you are on the route one of these carriers
might work better than the other. I would carry one of either of these while
on the route.
-Robert
"Vladimir Kelman" <Vke...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> Hi everybody!
> Does someone have experience with using cell phone on Mount Rainier? I'm
> interested in any info: which phones work, which do not work, what's the
> best choice?
> There will be several groups of us, climbing various routes; we're going
> to use cell phones to communicate between groups and in a case of
> emergency too.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Vlad.
Greg
> > Does someone have experience with using cell phone on Mount Rainier? I'm
> > interested in any info: which phones work, which do not work, what's the
> > best choice?
Try smoke signals and yodeling, these always work.
> > There will be several groups of us, climbing various routes; we're going
> > to use cell phones to communicate between groups and in a case of
> > emergency too.
Why are you going to need to communicate with the other groups if there
isn't an emergency? Just to chat? To talk about your jobs at Microsoft?
Look, I don't want to sound like a mean guy but maybe you should worry more
about having things like rope skill, self-arrest ability, crevasse-rescue
knowledge, etc. Do you know how to fix your stove? Do you realize that you
don't put crampons on just because you're walking on steep snow? Can you
tell if someone is developing HAPE or HACE? If I saw you on Rainier with a
cell phone shouting to someone else I'd think you were an idiot. While
climbing Mt. Baker a few years ago, we ran into two guys who had been lost
overnight. They had cell phones, altimeters, and GPS but strangely enough
they didn't have A MAP! They were using their cell phone to get what I'd
assume was a costly rescue, when they were only a few hours hike from a
road.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Vlad.
You're welcome
Craig Price
didn't have cell phones.
Angela Morgan
Vladimir Kelman <Vke...@cs.com> wrote:
> Hi everybody!
> Does someone have experience with using cell phone on Mount Rainier?
Here's my experience. Three years ago I was climbing Rainier via the
Emmons Glacier route. At Camp Schurman, the evening before our climb,
my two partners and I retired to our tents early to try to get some
rest since we were planning to start our climb at 2 a.m. At some point
an idiot from an Alpine Ascents team (one of the clients) was wandering
all around the camp, shouting into his cell phone, trying to find the
spot with the best reception. That spot turned out to be very close to
my tent. The guy was being incredibly obnoxious, and of course I
wasn't getting any sleep. I got so irritated that I jumped out of my
tent, snatched the cell phone from him and threw it into a nearby
crevasse.
Well, OK, I didn't actually do that. But I really wanted to, and I
WOULD do it given the same situation again. Cell phones are obnoxious
and have no place in a wilderness setting. If you feel the need to
have one along "to call for a rescue," then you probably shouldn't be
there to start with.
Just my two cents. Flame away; I don't care.
--angela
Gregory Todd
> If you feel the need to
> have one along "to call for a rescue," then you probably shouldn't be
> there to start with. <..> Flame away; I don't care.
No flame, but that is a rather sweeping statement.
It would be interesting to know how many cell phone-initiated rescues are
unnecessary, triggered just because people have them. Do they induce
non-self-reliance... or are they just conducive to non-self-reliance.
[p.s. did you consider throwing the guy himself in a crevasse... and
letting him try the cell reception from there, for as long as he liked?]