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Scott Michael Plamondon

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Mar 6, 1995, 2:16:35 PM3/6/95
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Im a little disappointed.....really. Its a great flick, but just not of
the quality of MOS II...Dan Osmond, however, is a madman, and watching
multple solos of 5.12+ climbs is thrilling... Osmond probably makes the
video worth having in your collection...a little too much from the
Europeans though... Some good quotes, but no epic bicycle wipe-outs....


Bill Jeffries

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Mar 6, 1995, 8:28:22 PM3/6/95
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Masters of Stone starts cool with Boone Speed flashing Super Tweak (5.14B) and
has its moments (Osman's solos and bridge jumping w/ camera in hand, Euro
wilding, etc.) , some crazy bouldering in Hueco Tanks and assorted hard
climbs. My only major criticism is no trad. climbing? I don't recall so much
as a single cam in this flick. Also the music! Worse then a bad surf flick.
Where do these bands come from?
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Bruce Hildenbrand

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Mar 8, 1995, 3:54:45 PM3/8/95
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In article <3jl05l$c...@tadpole.fc.hp.com> j...@fc.hp.com (Jeff Elison) writes:
>Bill Jeffries (b...@jeffries.com) wrote:
>: Masters of Stone starts cool with Boone Speed flashing Super Tweak (5.14B)
> ^^^^^^^^
>
>You didn't really mean to say that did you? No way.
>
>Mort

No. This sounds correct to me. When "pink pointing" became "red pointing"
it just follows a natural progression that "red pointing" would sooner
or later become the same as "flashing". Next thing in the line of evolution
is "looked at the climb(from the ground)" will be the same thing as
"flashing".

Bruce Hildenbrand


Ilana Stern

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Mar 9, 1995, 12:23:03 PM3/9/95
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In article <3jl5il$q...@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>, bhi...@stelvio.Eng.Sun.COM (Bruce Hildenbrand) writes:

> Next thing in the line of evolution
> is "looked at the climb(from the ground)" will be the same thing as
> "flashing".

1)

"I just flashed this 5.13 in Eldo."
"You? No way!"
"No, it's true. There wasn't enough light to take the picture without it."

2)

"I just flashed this 5.13 in Eldo."
"You? No way!"
"No, it's true. But the climbers weren't looking, so I put my clothes
back on."

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Jeff Elison

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Mar 8, 1995, 2:22:29 PM3/8/95
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Damian Smith

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Mar 9, 1995, 7:31:13 AM3/9/95
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Flashing is a term used to mean an on-sight, no prior knowledge, no
red,pink,green,or black pointing, bona fide, no holds barred,
climb

John Harpin

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Mar 10, 1995, 9:06:23 AM3/10/95
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In the gym I have heard people talk of flashing a route which meant climbing
the route with a top rope the first time they try it. I don't think that
these people could even pink point the route let alone flash it but this
sort of talk makes them happy.

Ilana Stern

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Mar 10, 1995, 11:53:18 AM3/10/95
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I think it's acceptable to refer to flashing a top-rope route if that's
the only appropriate method to climb that route. There are a few routes
here in Boulder which are always done TR (and have had their first
ascent by TR) and I would call a no-falls ascent of these on the first
attempt a flash.

"Flashing" a gym route is something that really doesn't bring any bragging
rights IMHO, but it's certainly a nice compliment to give your partner
if she does it. Again, if it's a route which is set up strictly as a TR,
a TR no-falls ascent on first try is a flash; but if it's a "lead" climb
(which in the gym is a pink point, yes?) it would need to be a lead no-falls
ascent ditto ditto.

Personally, I think that all this emphasis on x-pointing and flashing
and spiffing and squishing and booping and warping is just plain silly.
But whatever floats yer boat. Climb on.

Jeff Elison

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Mar 13, 1995, 2:17:07 PM3/13/95
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Damian Smith (dam...@sybase.com) wrote:

Almost. Sounds like you are describing on-sighting. Flashing implies
that you may have had knowledge. Of course beta-flash clears that up
nicely.

Anyway, my original point stands - Boone was redpointing, not flashing.
I think he even says "I had it completely sussed".

Mort

Greg Opland

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Mar 13, 1995, 2:33:55 PM3/13/95
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Hey Mort, tell me you already knew this...didn't you? :-)

Don't teach yer gramma ta suck eggs, Damian.

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Greg Opland

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Mar 14, 1995, 9:36:17 AM3/14/95
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In article k...@ncar.ucar.edu, il...@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:

>Personally, I think that all this emphasis on x-pointing and flashing
>and spiffing and squishing and booping and warping is just plain silly.
>But whatever floats yer boat. Climb on.

Pardon my ignorance, but (if they're actually used...) can you define
these terms for me? Spiffing, squishing, booping, warping? I'm curious.

Ilana Stern

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Mar 14, 1995, 12:31:27 PM3/14/95
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In article <3k49l1$n...@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>, opl...@saifr00.ateng.az.honeywell.com (Greg Opland) writes:
>
> In article k...@ncar.ucar.edu, il...@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:
>
> >Personally, I think that all this emphasis on x-pointing and flashing
> >and spiffing and squishing and booping and warping is just plain silly.
> >But whatever floats yer boat. Climb on.
>
> Pardon my ignorance, but (if they're actually used...) can you define
> these terms for me? Spiffing, squishing, booping, warping? I'm curious.

Thus is new climbing jargon foisted on the unsuspecting masses. :-)

PS Everybody knows you should wax your mountaineering skis with Vegemite,
and the new thing to do is use Kool-Aid instead of chalk (Cha-Cha Cherry
blends in well on the red rocks here, and grips better than X-factor).

David Harris

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Mar 14, 1995, 11:29:54 AM3/14/95
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In article <3k4jtf$7...@ncar.ucar.edu> il...@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:

>PS Everybody knows you should wax your mountaineering skis with Vegemite,
>and the new thing to do is use Kool-Aid instead of chalk (Cha-Cha Cherry
>blends in well on the red rocks here, and grips better than X-factor).


And the real beauty of Kool-Aid is that you easily carry a variety of colors
(the packets are light and small) and use it to dye your hair to match (or
contrast with) your lycra.

I also understand that people have experimented with drinking the stuff, but
I'm not sure I'd want to try it myself.

D

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s.a.stronach

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Mar 15, 1995, 4:16:50 AM3/15/95
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Bruce Hildenbrand (bhi...@stelvio.Eng.Sun.COM) wrote:

: Bruce Hildenbrand

Last time I checked, flashing a route meant a ground-up, no falls, no rests
ascent of a route without having been on it before, but with beta.
An on-sight flash is the same but without any beta having been given.
A red-point ascent is a ground-up, no fall, no rests ascent accomplished after
sufficient practice (by top-roping, bolt-to-bolt etc.).

Stuart

John Baker

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Mar 17, 1995, 10:50:16 AM3/17/95
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John Harpin (aps...@sas.ab.ca) wrote:
: In the gym I have heard people talk of flashing a route which meant climbing

: the route with a top rope the first time they try it. I don't think that
: these people could even pink point the route let alone flash it but this
: sort of talk makes them happy.

The term flash can be applied to TRs in a gym. Outside, you
would want to qualify it as in: "i flashed dog_doo on TR".

JB

Cory Lynn Eagar

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Mar 18, 1995, 2:24:11 PM3/18/95
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In article <3k4jtf$7...@ncar.ucar.edu>,

Ilana Stern <il...@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu> wrote:
>In article <3k49l1$n...@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>, opl...@saifr00.ateng.az.honeywell.com (Greg Opland) writes:
>>
>> In article k...@ncar.ucar.edu, il...@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:
[stuff deleted]

>PS Everybody knows you should wax your mountaineering skis with Vegemite,
>and the new thing to do is use Kool-Aid instead of chalk (Cha-Cha Cherry
>blends in well on the red rocks here, and grips better than X-factor).
>
>--
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Hey, you joke about kool-aid, but it *really* has a great use that it
was not intended for. When I used to live in Alaska near Fairbanks
(North Pole), the water had serious amounts of iron and rust which
would coat all our dishes and the inside of our dishwasher a brownish
orange color. One of my friends showed me that if you run a load of
dishes with a couple of packs of tropical punch kool-aid, it strips
all the stuff off and leaves the dishes sparkling clean and the inside
of the dishwasher white as it was new. It was amazing.

Had to share that. Sorry its non climbing related. :(

-Cory

Magnus Homann

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Mar 19, 1995, 7:13:55 AM3/19/95
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>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Elison <j...@fc.hp.com> writes:

Jeff> Anyway, my original point stands - Boone was redpointing, not
Jeff> flashing. I think he even says "I had it completely sussed".

I don't think *anyone* is capable of flashing (with or without beta) a
5.14b/8c. Not even Elie Chevieux(sp? :-)

Homann

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Mike Swatko

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Mar 20, 1995, 1:27:07 PM3/20/95
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In article <3k4jtf$7...@ncar.ucar.edu>, il...@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:
>PS Everybody knows you should wax your mountaineering skis with Vegemite,
>and the new thing to do is use Kool-Aid instead of chalk (Cha-Cha Cherry
>blends in well on the red rocks here, and grips better than X-factor).

Sweetened or Unsweetened?

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Mike Swatko

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Mar 20, 1995, 1:27:55 PM3/20/95
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In article <azw.7207...@aber.ac.uk> a...@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) writes:
>If you have chosen wrong, it will snap adn you will fall a big distance and
>burst; or it will bend over too far and deposit you underground; or it will

AND
In article <mholmes.2...@madrad.radiology.wisc.edu>, mho...@madrad.radiology.wisc.edu (Mark A. Holmes) writes:
> I found that if the tree you are on snaps, then it
>will usually snag on the tree for which you are aiming.
>Still, it is very exciting when you hear that "Crack!"
>and start your plummet towards the ground.


Doesn't quite sound like a low-impact "sport", either to the trees or
your own body.

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