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What year did BayLiner come under the same Corp as SeaRay?

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Dave Anker

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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Any one know what year BayLiner came under the same Corporation as
SeaRay? I'm assuming that this is when the quality began to
improve.

Thanks for the info!

Keith Malatesta

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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Byliner's quality has improved?


Ronald Powers

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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Keith Malatesta wrote:
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> Byliner's quality

Bayliner builds boats much better than you spell.

Bob McCarthy

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Jun 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/2/96
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In article <31AFC5...@TheRamp.net>, Ronald Powers
<rpo...@TheRamp.net> wrote:

Bayliners are the worst boats built aside from Glastron. I laugh at how
they brag about their thrubolted cleats as a sign of a well built boat.
That is less than an industry standard, and most have a backing plate.

Did I tell you the story that one time my best friend was drunk at a
marina. He got mad and punched a Bayliner,and his fist went thru the hull!

Hah

Bob Sanders

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Jun 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/2/96
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In article <4on6iv$1...@news-srv2.fmr.com>,

Keith Malatesta <Keith.M...@fmr.com> wrote:
>Byliner's quality has improved?
>
Sure it did....

But look what happened to SeaRay........

mark...@ix.netcom.com

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Jun 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/3/96
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> Thanks for the info!I bought a new Sea Ray from the Arizona plant in 1987. It was and is a
quality disaster in everything from the mechanical installations to the
voids in the glass fiber under the gel coat where it is peeling off. I
will say this for Sea Ray, they are paying part of my glass repairs even
though the boat is out of warranty.
Have you seen the photos published in some of the marine mags of the
Bayliner 45 that hit a piling? The glass just peeled back, revealing,
surprise!, most of the cloth had never been wet with resin. Bayliner
reacted by having the local dealers pull their advertising from the
publication who published the photos and story. Now thats what I call
standing behind your product and concern for your customers. What
better way to keep all those Bayliner owners from worrying? If they
don't know they won't worry.

ZeOs

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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On Fri, 31 May 1996 21:24:20 -0700, Ronald Powers
<rpo...@TheRamp.net> wrote:

>Keith Malatesta wrote:
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>> Byliner's quality
>
>Bayliner builds boats much better than you spell.

Wow, Ronald. You ARE smart.. Flaming for misspellings.. The lamest of
the lame..

Mark


Peggie Hall

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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Brunswick Corporation has owned Bayliner since the late '70s or
early 80s. Brunswick bought Sea Ray in 1987...the last Sea Rays
built to original Sea Ray specs (it takes time to get from drawing
board to production) were the '89 models.

Prior to the Brunwick Corporation buy-out, Sea Ray was the best
built production boat in the country. Today, "they ain't buildin'
'em like they used to" was never more true than it is of Sea Ray.

A couple of years ago the rumor was flying in the marine industry
that the Ray family was so distressed by the lack quality that was
being built under their formerly highly respected name that they
were gathering forces for hostile take-over to get it back till
Brunswick met with them and agreed to make changes. The quality
HAS improved slightly in the last couple years, but whether or
that's a true story is something I don't know.

Peggie Hall/Peal Products
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
(and the owner of a 1985 34' Sea Ray Sundancer)

Dave Anker

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
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Thanks for the info Peggy. That tells me everything I needed to
know around this subject and a whole lot more. I appreciate your
response.

PAUL GERACI

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Jun 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/7/96
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Brunswick bought Bayliner in 1987.


Peggie Hall

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Jun 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/8/96
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Sorry, Paul...you're mistaken. Brunswick bought Sea Ray in
'87...they'd already owned Bayliner for several years. The
philosophy (according to the trade journals) behind the buy was
that Brunswick already owned the most popular entry level
line...by acquiring the most popular top end line, they shouldn't
lose a customer to another boat builder...not that it actually
worked that way--but that was the idea.

Marcus Bell

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Jun 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/11/96
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In article <4paqis$6s4$1...@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>,
74222...@CompuServe.COM says...

>
>Sorry, Paul...you're mistaken. Brunswick bought Sea Ray in
>'87...they'd already owned Bayliner for several years.

My sources indicate that Brunswick bought Bayliner in the summer
of 1986, and bought Sea Ray shortly after that ('87 would fit the bill).

The purchase was a bit of a shock to OMC, who was at the time supplying
outdrives to Bayliner. They both honored the contract till it ran out, at
which point MerCruiser became the obvious supplier. This may be the only
instance of OMC and Brunswick working so closely together.

--
Marcus. (be...@mail.med.upenn.edu)


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