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Tom Francis - SWSports

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:54:03 PM11/7/09
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jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And
compassion has lost its meaning as well.

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jps

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:47:22 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:40:29 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
><remov...@rejectswsportsdot.org> wrote:
>
>>In the Democrats own words....
>>
>>http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/JCTletter110509.pdf
>
>Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And
>compassion has lost its meaning as well.

Nice bumper sticker.

Canuck57

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:26:28 PM11/8/09
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jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
> <remov...@rejectswsportsdot.org> wrote:
>
>> In the Democrats own words....
>>
>> http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/JCTletter110509.pdf
>
> Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And
> compassion has lost its meaning as well.

What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government?
Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the
people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government.
That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate.
Understanding this helps one understand government.

Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick
shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or
why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now?

Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the
service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government
has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming
health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into
perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue!

The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government
wants more of your wealth.

TopBassDog

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:42:25 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 11:47 am, jps <tr...@thedump.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:40:29 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
> >On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
> ><removeem...@rejectswsportsdot.org> wrote:
>
> >>In the Democrats own words....
>
> >>http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/JCTletter1105...

>
> >Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government.  And
> >compassion has lost its meaning as well.
>
> Nice bumper sticker.

Yes, it would be. But don't take it so hard that you didn't think of
it first.

jps

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:50:41 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 <Canu...@nospam.com>
wrote:

And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars?

Yes, those are good investments?

jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:20:13 PM11/8/09
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Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go
something like this:

"I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring
argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because
it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a
convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument
at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or
I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with
little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when
Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?'
Honk if you love red herring!"

jps

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:26:49 PM11/8/09
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You need to look up the definition of red herring.

You cannot bitch about bleeding money on health care if you had
absolutely no problem with spending even more on bombs and tax cuts.

What did the wars do for our country?

What will health care reform do for our country?

Where would you invest, in bombs?

John H.

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:02:55 PM11/8/09
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I do.

John Herring

Now please stop taking my name in vain.

jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:17:38 PM11/8/09
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For you convenience, a definition was included in the content of the
bumper sticker.

jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:22:28 PM11/8/09
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I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my
bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen
again...

John H.

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:03:40 PM11/8/09
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You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there
you'll pounce on it like a starved cat.

That's OK. I'll just go honk.
--
John H

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"That's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus." (Harry Krausism)
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jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:10:02 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H.
<removeths...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think you've done figured me out. :>)

H the K

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:20:19 PM11/8/09
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As if that were some sort of accomplishment.

John H.

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:22:55 PM11/8/09
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Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the
most spectacular finish ever to a symphony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28

jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:14:01 PM11/8/09
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And now we have a new sub-fallacy of the ignoratio elenchi, the 'red
snapper.' So named because of the interlocutor that employs it
without compunction - the communist curmudgeon, H the K. Of course,
as far as interlocutors go, the Communist Curmudgeon is proficient in
all fallacies, formal and informal. He is a credit to
his...uh...discipline (or complete lack thereof).

jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:28:42 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H.
<removeths...@gmail.com> wrote:

As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the
fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose
that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in
keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that
JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my
bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in
saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an
insurance salesman...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs

nom=de=plume

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The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage
concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder.
The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the
performance!

You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :)

--
Nom=de=Plume


H the K

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:35:45 PM11/8/09
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Nothing quite like enjoying serious music over the high audio quality
youtube network.

Perhaps that is better, though, than herring's usual
methodology...stealing musical intellectual property for playback and
encouraging others to do so, too.

jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:41:02 PM11/8/09
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I know. And to add insult to injury, my sister's a lawyer.
(University of Iowa.)

jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:48:54 PM11/8/09
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A few years ago, the lawyer that handled the corporate legal affairs
for my manufacturing concern let me borrow his external hard drive to
transfer the music, .wav, .wma, .mp3, to my own. He had about 300
gigs of an eclectic collection ranging from Pete Seeger to OMC. I
didn't ask him where he got the music...

nom=de=plume

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:09:17 PM11/8/09
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Gurl power!

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Nom=de=Plume


John H.

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:12:22 PM11/8/09
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Not quite as boomy as I like.

John H.

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:14:48 PM11/8/09
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It seems our good friend, Harold, is unable to respond to a post
without an attempted insult. Perhaps he sleeps better because of it.

BAR

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:21:47 PM11/8/09
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In article <o2ref55e8bucatiob...@4ax.com>,
removeths...@gmail.com says...

> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28
> >
> >As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the
> >fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose
> >that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in
> >keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that
> >JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my
> >bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in
> >saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an
> >insurance salesman...
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs
>
> Not quite as boomy as I like.

I didn't know your were a cannon cocker?


jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:23:15 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:12:22 -0500, John H.
<removeths...@gmail.com> wrote:

It's an acquired taste, I think. I've explored his music out of
curiosity more than having an affinity for it.

jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:24:14 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:14:48 -0500, John H.
<removeths...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm begining to doubt that he knows any other form of communication.

Tom Francis - SWSports

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:29:09 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:14:01 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:

>And now we have a new sub-fallacy of the ignoratio elenchi, the 'red
>snapper.' So named because of the interlocutor that employs it
>without compunction - the communist curmudgeon, H the K. Of course,
>as far as interlocutors go, the Communist Curmudgeon is proficient in
>all fallacies, formal and informal. He is a credit to
>his...uh...discipline (or complete lack thereof).

90 percent of the time reading He Who Must Not Be Named posts is like
reading Hokusai translated into English by Stevie Wonder on a manual
typewriter.

I often get the feeling that somewhere on the web is a site dedicated
to translating his tautology into something coherent and
understandable.

H the K

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This from a right-winger who hangs out with imbeciles?

Tom Francis - SWSports

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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:23:15 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:

>It's an acquired taste, I think. I've explored his music out of
>curiosity more than having an affinity for it.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

Need some coffee....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkWJDos13vw

Don White

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"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
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Around these parts....worse!


Jim

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:13:57 PM11/8/09
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Here's old friendly Don doing what he does best.

Bill McKee

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" <remov...@rejectswsportsdot.org> wrote in
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I think I will go make a cup of coffee.


nom=de=plume

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"Don White" <whi...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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:) Around here, I don't usually tell people about my former profession.
They'll stop or never start liking me.

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Nom=de=Plume


John H.

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:44:26 AM11/9/09
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My first Army job was in Artillery. Not a cannon cocker, but fire
direction control. They did let me go pull the lanyard once.

John H.

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:08:52 AM11/9/09
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Thank goodness. I was feeling very 'un-connoisseurish'. Now I realize
I'll just have to listen to it for a few more decades to acquire an
appreciation.

Call me back in 2038.

Don White

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"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
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Johnny & his army will find some way to use that info against you.


Don White

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"John H." <removeths...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:21:47 -0500, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <o2ref55e8bucatiob...@4ax.com>,
>>removeths...@gmail.com says...
>>> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28
>>> >
>>> >As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the
>>> >fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose
>>> >that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in
>>> >keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that
>>> >JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my
>>> >bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in
>>> >saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an
>>> >insurance salesman...
>>> >
>>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs
>>>
>>> Not quite as boomy as I like.
>>
>>I didn't know your were a cannon cocker?
>>
>
> My first Army job was in Artillery. Not a cannon cocker, but fire
> direction control. They did let me go pull the lanyard once.
> --
> John H
>

Sounds like someone in the army had some common sense.
Would they call that mitigating the damage?


jpj...@psbnewton.com

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:06:50 AM11/9/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:08:52 -0500, John H.
<removeths...@gmail.com> wrote:

Listening to Ives is like chewing on aspirin to enjoy the taste. I
posted it more for Harry's and JPS' listening pleasure, though.

I wouldn't want to offend your sensibilities. :>)

Jim

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Don White wrote:
> "nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message

>> :) Around here, I don't usually tell people about my former profession.

>> They'll stop or never start liking me.
>>
>> --
>> Nom=de=Plume
>
> Johnny & his army will find some way to use that info against you.
>
>

Donnie,
How could we possibly improve her comment. It's delicious as it stands.

Jim

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:48:20 AM11/9/09
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Donnie,
Your master is working your strings again.

John H.

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:43:19 PM11/9/09
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I would be happy to answer your post, but I can make no sense of it.
Could you explain please.

jps

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:50:35 PM11/9/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:17 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:

>The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage
>concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder.
>The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the
>performance!
>
>You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :)

Was the concert in an auto parts junkyard? Have admired his work but
from a distance and in small doses.

Woody Allen had it right in Take the Money and Run. As punishment, he
was put in the hole for with an insurance salesman. Or, his famous
line: "There are worse things in life than death. Have you ever spent
an evening with an insurance salesman?"

Jim

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:21:25 PM11/9/09
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That's a tall order, John. Hee Hee, or should it be Lol Lol.

nom=de=plume

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Just a regular theater. I won't do that again. Allen is one strange guy...

--
Nom=de=Plume


Rob

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:26:30 PM11/9/09
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> Johnny& his army will find some way to use that info against you.
>
>

Who is John's "army", Don?

Rob

Don White

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"Rob" <R...@gmail1.com> wrote in message
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Looking to enlist?
You'd make a perfect Dope Army recruit.


jps

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Why would that interest you Rob? Unless you're a sock puppet...

Loogypicker

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On Nov 9, 8:26 pm, Rob <R...@gmail1.com> wrote:
> Don White wrote:
> > "nom=de=plume"<nom...@plume.invalid>  wrote in message

> >news:hd8br0$hde$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> "Don White"<whi...@ns.sympatico.ca>  wrote in message
> >>news:4af77d83$0$5343$9a56...@news.aliant.net...
>
> >>> "nom=de=plume"<nom...@plume.invalid>  wrote in message

> >>>news:hd7o2e$dnh$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>> <jpj...@psbnewton.com>  wrote in message
> >>>>news:7qnef5tssbsuij1d9...@4ax.com...
> >>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John  H.
> >>>>> <removethssalmonb...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>
> >>>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John  H.
> >>>>>>> <removethssalmonb...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John  H.
> >>>>>>>>> <removethssalmonb...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps<tr...@thedump.com>  wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <Canuc...@nospam.com>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <removeem...@rejectswsportsdot.org>  wrote:

>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Democrats own words....
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/JCTletter1105...
> Rob- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Rob there is none. Harry and Don vie for biggest usenet asshole alot.

Jim

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:14:21 AM11/10/09
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Don is just one of Harry's underlings. Harry is, by far, the king of
usenet assholes.

Rob

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:51:59 PM11/10/09
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Dope? You think you are a smart guy?

Rob

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*Jim*

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:48:37 PM11/10/09
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Donnie wasn't the brightest bottle capper on the bottling line.

BAR

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:36:21 AM11/14/09
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In article <4af8118f$0$5360$9a56...@news.aliant.net>,
whi...@ns.sympatico.ca says...

Don, look up "fire direction control." Anyone can pull a lanyard and
hear the big boom.

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