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Oreo2595

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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I'm looking for some feedback on the 300 V8. I have heard that these engines
can be unreliable and troublesome. I have come across a 300 V8 Johnson with 234
hrs on it. The marina is not sure what year it is and has promised to call me
back with details. It is currently installed on a 22' Whaler and apparently the
boat cannot be sold with so much power, so the owner is separating them. Anyone
out there have firsthand experience with these engines? Are they junk, or is
something like this worth the $4000-$5000 range the owner is looking to get?
Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!

Safe boating,
James

Harry Krause

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Oreo2595 wrote:

I'm sure you'll be able to track down the information you need. You might consider
a couple of additional factors, however, such as:

What boat would you hang a 300 hp outboard on? You're possibly talking about a
23-25 footer at least, I would hope, one rated for that kind of power.

What is the price and availability of spare parts?

I seem to recall that the 300-hp engines were withdrawn from the market because of
slim sales. There also were reports of problems with certain model years, but, as
Ken Starr says, I'd have to check my recollection, and I think I gave it away to
Goodwill.

On the other hand, Merc announced last year it would begin producing 300 hp engines
again.

Tread lightly.


--

Harry Krause
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Psychic dwarf escapes from jail. Small medium at large.

bill...@orbiter.com

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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> I'm looking for some feedback on the 300 V8. I have heard that these engines
> can be unreliable and troublesome. I have come across a 300 V8 Johnson with
234
> hrs on it. The marina is not sure what year it is and has promised to call me
> back with details. It is currently installed on a 22' Whaler and apparently
the
> boat cannot be sold with so much power, so the owner is separating them.
Anyone
> out there have firsthand experience with these engines?

They are the same design and share many parts with the V4 and V6 looper
engines. All they did was add a few more cylinders and a super heavy duty
gearcase. Post the model number and we can tell you the year. Before
purchasing any engine, find a QUALIFIED tech to check it over completely.
Many of those engines were "rode hard and put away wet" with very little
maintenance.

--
Bill Grannis
service manager

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Harry Krause

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Lee Lindquist wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 07:59:14 -0500, Harry Krause
> <hkr...@erols-nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >I seem to recall that the 300-hp engines were withdrawn from the market because of
> >slim sales. There also were reports of problems with certain model years, but, as
> >Ken Starr says, I'd have to check my recollection, and I think I gave it away to
> >Goodwill.
>

> It's the perjury, stupid.
>
> - Lee Lindquist
>
> {lastname}@ibm.net One whistle, captain.

Really? I always thought it was "lackacase" on Whitewater, Filegate, Travelgate, et
cetera. Turned out...I was right...and so was everyone else who wondered why
Starrstruck wasted four years and $40+ million.


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Harry Krause
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Capital Punishment means never having to say "YOU AGAIN?"

Carl G. Craver

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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The 300 horse is a good motor for their intended purpose, High Performance.
That means they need a lot of maintanence and weren't expected to
have a very long life.
If the motor was well taken care of, then it's probably a good buy.
Just don't expect to idle the motor for long periods of time while you
troll for salmon or what ever.

Carl G. Craver
Evinru...@home.com

Oreo2595 wrote in message <19981121075358...@ng07.aol.com>...


>I'm looking for some feedback on the 300 V8. I have heard that these
engines
>can be unreliable and troublesome. I have come across a 300 V8 Johnson with
234
>hrs on it. The marina is not sure what year it is and has promised to call
me
>back with details. It is currently installed on a 22' Whaler and apparently
the
>boat cannot be sold with so much power, so the owner is separating them.
Anyone

Harry Krause

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Lee Lindquist wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:38:39 -0500, Harry Krause


> <hkr...@erols-nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >Lee Lindquist wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 07:59:14 -0500, Harry Krause
> >> <hkr...@erols-nospam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I seem to recall that the 300-hp engines were withdrawn from the market because of
> >> >slim sales. There also were reports of problems with certain model years, but, as
> >> >Ken Starr says, I'd have to check my recollection, and I think I gave it away to
> >> >Goodwill.
> >>
> >> It's the perjury, stupid.
> >>
> >> - Lee Lindquist
> >>
> >> {lastname}@ibm.net One whistle, captain.
> >
> >Really? I always thought it was "lackacase" on Whitewater, Filegate, Travelgate, et
> >cetera. Turned out...I was right...and so was everyone else who wondered why
> >Starrstruck wasted four years and $40+ million.
>

> $40 million? What's that work out to Harry, one dollar
> for each time you've wasted our time with another
> repetitive bayliner post?


>
> It's the perjury, stupid.
>
> - Lee Lindquist
>
> {lastname}@ibm.net One whistle, captain.

No prosecutor in his right mind would seek an indictment on lying resulting from adult
consensual sex between two persons of the opposite gender.

--

Harry Krause
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Aren't you glad cats don't have opposable thumbs?

Dave

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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I think these people are now refered to as kneepad liberals.
Clinton could have fired Starr any time he wanted to.
Dave

Steve

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Harry Krause wrote:
>
> Lee Lindquist wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 07:59:14 -0500, Harry Krause
> > <hkr...@erols-nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I seem to recall that the 300-hp engines were withdrawn from the market because of
> > >slim sales. There also were reports of problems with certain model years, but, as
> > >Ken Starr says, I'd have to check my recollection, and I think I gave it away to
> > >Goodwill.
> >
> > It's the perjury, stupid.
> >
> > - Lee Lindquist
> >
> > {lastname}@ibm.net One whistle, captain.
>
> Really? I always thought it was "lackacase" on Whitewater, Filegate, Travelgate, et
> cetera. Turned out...I was right...and so was everyone else who wondered why
> Starrstruck wasted four years and $40+ million.

$40,000,000.00 is what the jackasses in congress waste EACH DAY trying
to figure out how to get even more of your money.

Let's see...$40MM for 4 years = $10MM/yr divided by 250,000,000 people
needing entertainment = $.04 PER DAY PER PERSON PER YEAR TO LAUGH YOU
ASS OFF watching the govenment! AND, while they're doing that, they
can't pass more idiotic laws and steal more of your money. THAT'S a
DEAL!

Larry

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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On 21 Nov 1998 12:53:58 GMT, oreo...@aol.com (Oreo2595) wrote:

>I'm looking for some feedback on the 300 V8. I have heard that these engines
>can be unreliable and troublesome. I have come across a 300 V8 Johnson with 234
>hrs on it. The marina is not sure what year it is and has promised to call me
>back with details. It is currently installed on a 22' Whaler and apparently the
>boat cannot be sold with so much power, so the owner is separating them. Anyone
>out there have firsthand experience with these engines? Are they junk, or is
>something like this worth the $4000-$5000 range the owner is looking to get?
>Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
>Safe boating,
>James

Gas is $1.50/gallon at the marina.
TC-W3 runs $15-30/gallon from the OEMs
Diesel is 75c/gallon because it has no tax.
Any questions??

Just a point of order. 300hp 2-stroke....wow....Call my broker, I
want some more oil stock.

Larry...


Sungkuk Hwang

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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My fishing buddy had said that Johnson 300 V8s have a reputation to blow up.
Sure enough, one of them did blow up a week after he said that. Luckily, we
were only ten miles off-shore and we were able to make it back to shore with
his other 300 V8. He is now looking for twin 250 Yamahas...


Larry wrote in message <36575244...@news.nations.net>...

Bill mcKee

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Harry Krause wrote:

> Lee Lindquist wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 07:59:14 -0500, Harry Krause
> > <hkr...@erols-nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I seem to recall that the 300-hp engines were withdrawn from the market because of
> > >slim sales. There also were reports of problems with certain model years, but, as
> > >Ken Starr says, I'd have to check my recollection, and I think I gave it away to
> > >Goodwill.
> >
> > It's the perjury, stupid.
> >
> > - Lee Lindquist
> >
> > {lastname}@ibm.net One whistle, captain.
>
> Really? I always thought it was "lackacase" on Whitewater, Filegate, Travelgate, et
> cetera. Turned out...I was right...and so was everyone else who wondered why
> Starrstruck wasted four years and $40+ million.
>

> --
>
> Harry Krause
> - - - - - - - - - - - -

> Capital Punishment means never having to say "YOU AGAIN?"

Ken Starr of all the special councils(sp) is the most efficient for conviction per
dollar. Something like 14 felony convictions have come out of the investigations. As to
the 40 Million, Calif. has spent 9 million and years getting a Richard Ing, mass murderer
to trial. The argument they all lie does not hold water (boating reference) they don't
lie while under oath in a court trial. The lie for legal purposes only counts while
under oath.
Bill


JJames915

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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I don't know how reliable they are but I am reminded of a huge boat on a
trailer for sale on the side of rt1 going into raleigh last summer. It had 4
of those 300hp v8 outboards on the back!

Hans H. Hagberg

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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> I'm looking for some feedback on the 300 V8. I have heard that these engines
> can be unreliable and troublesome. I have come across a 300 V8 Johnson with 234
> hrs on it. The marina is not sure what year it is and has promised to call me
> back with details. It is currently installed on a 22' Whaler and apparently the
> boat cannot be sold with so much power, so the owner is separating them. Anyone
> out there have firsthand experience with these engines? Are they junk, or is
> something like this worth the $4000-$5000 range the owner is looking to get?
> Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Safe boating,
> James

The OMC V8 is a comparatively unreliable engine. Once, I almost ruined my economy
trying to run a twin installation of them.
Just about everything fail - powerheads, electronics, gearcases, brackets,
propellers ....
The components are designed for V6 engines and don't seem to hold up with 50% more
power. The engine is not very fast either. And the V8 loves gas. Expect 32 - 35
gal/h at full throttle for one of these beasts. Acceleration is pretty impressive
compared to just about anything.
They are also good for impressing people with minor knowledge about engines.

If you want one, don't pay much for it and try to get a spare engine from which
you can pick parts - you will need it.


Michael J Porter

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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In article <3659a26c...@news.newsguy.com>,
Lee Lindquist <dont...@junk.com> wrote:
=>On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:45:12 -0500, Harry Krause
=><hkr...@erols-nospam.com> wrote:
=>
=>>No prosecutor in his right mind would seek an indictment on lying resulting from adult
=>>consensual sex between two persons of the opposite gender.
=>
=>The other evening on the nightly news, there was a piece on
=>folks who were in federal prison for perjury. Currently,
=>there are more than one hundred.
=>
=>They also interviewed two specific folks who had done
=>time in federal prison for engaging in consensual sex.
=>
=>One was a VA shrink who lied about having
=>sex with a patient in a VA hospital.
=>
=>So apparently, Harry, you're wrong. Some prosecutor
=>did seek an indictment, and got a conviction.
=>
=> - Lee Lindquist
=>
=> {lastname}@ibm.net One whistle, captain.

How is he wrong? You've shown there are perjurers in jail, and
others in jail for consensual sex, but you haven't shown that there
is anyone in jail for perjury resulting from not disclosing
consensual sexual relations.

(although not really, since the case you noted was certainly
prosecuted on the basis of taking advantage of the mentally ill or
perhaps a doctor/patient thing. But whatever).

Mike

KReed60950

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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>I'm looking for some feedback on the 300 V8.

Unless you're in love with it, I'd pass.
1.) Buying a discontinued anything is a questionable move.
2.) Both my brother's and my experience with 210hp and 225hp V6 Johnsons has
convinced us that either the company is hiring newbie engineers , or that the
emphasis is fully on short-term profit. Quality is not a consideration.
Customer satisfaction is not a consideration except to the extent that it
affects immediate sales.
3.) How many mechanics in your area are really expert on the 300 hp model?
(Attending a training class is not enough; trust me, all engines and all
mechanics are not equal..) The OMC factory will not help -- they refer all
technical questions to the local dealer.
4.) "The engine can't be sold on this boat?"... I'm not aware of any legal
requirement. How was it sold originally? What they probably mean is that
no-one wants it.
5.) Ditto on the reply from the guy that questions the use of existing parts
from smaller engines on this model. That's just what I'd expect they would do.
6.) Fuel consumption will be out of sight, but that is true of most big
engines when they are run hard. Depending on the boat, it may only burn
12-15gph at 30 mph. (2 mpg is pretty common for big outboards when running in
midrange.)
7.) Just like an Edsel, it is worth whatever you are willing to pay. $4,000
isn't that much for a good engine; but, for the same money you have a lot of
choice in 225hp.
8.) I'd look at Yamaha, Mercury, any other Japanese engine, and OMC... in that
order.

Good luck.


Toyscarab

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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Mercury 2.5 EFI !!!!!!!!!!!!
Merc also makes a 300 offshore. LOOK INTO IT !!!!
Mike G.

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