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National Marine Mfrs Assoc. Report on MTBE-Marine Engine Regs & More

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J'

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Sep 11, 2000, 10:53:53 AM9/11/00
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The National Marine Mfrs Assoc. (NMMA) has a quite lengthy detailed
report on MTBE-Marine Engine Regs.-California Boat Bans-and New Tech
engines here:

http://www.nmma.org/environmental/resources/engine2.html

My only editorial comment: It's a shame boat owners, as represented by
the more rapid anti-environomentalist 2-strokers, and go-fast boaters,
prominent on this board, aren't as attuned and reasonable about the
environmental aspects of boating, as many of the NMMA members, are.

Some of those *companies* understand the issues. Some boat owners could
learn from them. This report is a good place to start.

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This report has been prepared by the National marine Manufacturers to
provide
information about new developments in marine engine technologies,
particularly as they relate to the engine exhaust emission concerns.

As members of NMMA manufacture over 80% of all recreational boats,
engines, and
related accessories used in the U.S., the report also deals with the
marine engine and
boating industries plans and capabilities for introducing
improved-performance engines,
in support of recreational marine engine regulations being developed
by the State of
California Air Resources Board, and in compliance with federal
regulations being
implemented by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

Design elements of traditional two-stroke marine engines are responsible
for
inefficiencies in fuel combustion, higher fuel operating costs and
higher emission rates than would result from improved engine designs.

Two factors have prompted the marine industry and environmental
regulators to seek
faster introduction of more efficient, less polluting engines. First,
the increasing
popularity of boating, fishing and other recreational water uses which
has substantially
increased the number of boats operating on public waters. Second, a
recent increase in
the use of chemical ethers (MTBE, TAME, other ether compounds) as
additives to
gasoline has resulted in serious public and regulatory concern about
the presence of
these chemicals in public drinking water sources.

NMMA and its marine engine manufacturers' technical and regulatory
specialists are
now assisting the State of California in the assembly of technical and
marketing
information that will help provide baseline data for the California
Air Resources Board,
working in collaboration with state water quality authorities, to
develop new and more
stringent emission standards for recreational marine engines. From a
technical
perspective, the marine engine industry understands that California
environmental
regulators are not satisfied with U.S. EPA's averaging of compliance
with existing
standards or with the federal regulation's timetable for
implementation. The marine
engine industry understands that California will demand compliance
performance from
all recreational engines, and will demand compliance on a faster
timetable than adopted
by EPA.

Because of a high confidence level in the technical capability of the
new engine designs
being introduced, and because it is in the best interest of engine and
boat
manufacturers to have these new technologies penetrate the market as
rapidly as
possible, the marine engine industry is going to extend every
cooperation to California
Air Resource Board as it and other agencies develop new technical
emission standards
and a timetable for implementation.

It is well known that the 4 Strokes offer smooth, fuel efficient
operation with reduced
exhaust emissions. These engines are generally larger and heavier than
their 2 Stroke
counterparts and as a result are often run at slightly higher power
levels to achieve the
same boat performance. Nonetheless, they are being widely accepted in
the market
place and offer many boating consumers features that are more
desirable when
compared to old technology 2 Strokes.
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hkr...@capu.net

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Sep 11, 2000, 10:57:09 AM9/11/00
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J' wrote:
>
> The National Marine Mfrs Assoc. (NMMA) has a quite lengthy detailed
> report on MTBE-Marine Engine Regs.-California Boat Bans-and New Tech
> engines here:
>
> http://www.nmma.org/environmental/resources/engine2.html
>
> My only editorial comment: It's a shame boat owners, as represented by
> the more rapid anti-environomentalist 2-strokers,


My only editorial comment:

You are as rabid as those you accuse.

--
Harry Krause
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Anarchy is the least stable of all social structures

Paul Jacobsen

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Sep 12, 2000, 3:45:00 AM9/12/00
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>
> My only editorial comment: It's a shame boat owners, as represented by
> the more rapid anti-environomentalist 2-strokers, and go-fast boaters,
> prominent on this board, aren't as attuned and reasonable about the
> environmental aspects of boating, as many of the NMMA members, are.

Are you anal retentive?
--
Paul

The wetter the better!


Ted G

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Sep 12, 2000, 11:22:52 PM9/12/00
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My only editorial comment-The NMMA is in the business of selling us NEW
STUFF. Of course they are going to be all hot for newer, cleaner
technology-THAT THEY CAN THEN SELL TO US. You are delusional if you believe
they or any govt. types really care about the environment-it is all about
money and control over people, nothing more, nothing less.

Ted

Curtis CCR

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Sep 13, 2000, 9:27:29 PM9/13/00
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In article <Sk6v5.202$9D6.2...@news.pacbell.net>,

J' <*@*.*> wrote:
> The National Marine Mfrs Assoc. (NMMA) has a quite lengthy detailed
> report on MTBE-Marine Engine Regs.-California Boat Bans-and New Tech
> engines here:
>
> http://www.nmma.org/environmental/resources/engine2.html
>
> My only editorial comment: It's a shame boat owners, as represented by
> the more rapid anti-environomentalist 2-strokers, and go-fast boaters,
> prominent on this board, aren't as attuned and reasonable about the
> environmental aspects of boating, as many of the NMMA members, are.
>
> Some of those *companies* understand the issues. Some boat owners
could
> learn from them.

I hardly believe this will be your only editorial comment.

Without reading any of the report, I will make my comment...

While I welcome new, cleaner burning engine technology, I see little
justification for demonizing user of existing engines that still run -
two or four stroke.

As for MTBE. Don't blame 2 strokes for MTBE contamination of lakes or
other waterways. 2 strokes don't create MTBE. It was added to gasoline
at the insistance of envirowhacks, even though they were warned that it
was as much as threat to environment as it was helpful to the air.

The blame for the MTBE fiasco can be laid on the doorsteps of ignorant
legislators, and incompetent agencies such as the US EPA and the
California Air Resources Board. To name one incompetent - Browner.
Extremist organization such as the Bluewater Network also helped, but
such private bastions of lunacy are not publically accountable.


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