MacGregor 22 vs Catalina 22 - advice wanted
Dan Everhart
I've been shopping for my first cruising sailboat, and have been
concentrating on Catalinas, but now I have a chance to look at a '72
MacGregor 22. Anybody have any advice on the relative merits of the two
brands, or any suggestions about things peculiar to the MacGregor that
I should examine carefully when inspecting the boat?
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>I've been shopping for my first cruising sailboat, and have been
>concentrating on Catalinas
Keep on looking at the Catalina. It's twice to boat the MacGregor is. This will make a difference if you ever venture into the ocean to do some close in costal crusing. I have a Morgan 22' that is very similar to the Catalina. It is very reassuring to
have a *SOLID* boat under you.
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>>I've been shopping for my first cruising sailboat, and have been
>>concentrating on Catalinas
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owner, who had done a lot of racing. I did some family type racing at the local
lake. location 200mi inland from S.F.
Something else to consider is the fact catalina has a very good national
fleet, with loads of tips and hints. I had a great time with her. My personall
choice is the swing keel model. easiest to get unstuck when you do. and you
will.
look for pop top models if in your price range. and i was able to order new
interior cusions from the factory at a cheaper price than local talent. :)
Paul Freeman
Does the Catalina 22 have an enclosed head?
Ronald Riffel
writes:
The catalina is far superior to the MacGregor, but the Cat is out of
date and the local dealer said that they were redesigning it now. All
the others have gone to water balast (not that I think that is a good
idea). But there are better boats out there, much better. I have owned a
Cat22 as have friends. They just don't sail that well and they don't
have the beam of modern 22's. Look at the Precision or even the Hunter;
they are both more modern design.
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Neil Simms
(Ronald Riffel) wrote:
> The catalina is far superior to the MacGregor, but the Cat is out of
> date and the local dealer said that they were redesigning it now. All
> the others have gone to water balast (not that I think that is a good
> idea). But there are better boats out there, much better. I have owned a
> Cat22 as have friends. They just don't sail that well and they don't
> have the beam of modern 22's. Look at the Precision or even the Hunter;
> they are both more modern design.
Another boat to consider is the O'Day 222. Very similar to the Precision,
and you can find them for less. I bought an '84 a couple of years ago for
$3800; it had been through Hugo on Lake Norman, and has some minor
cosmetic damage, but sails pretty well. Shoal draft, roller furling (I
replaced the somewhat wimpy original with CDI furling, which works pretty
well); motor and trailer included. I take it outside in Carolina coastal
waters, and it aquits itself pretty well, though I avoid the rough stuff
(never had it out in more than 20 knots and 3 footers)...
Cheers,
Neil Simms
ScubaKahn
I happen to own a McGregor 22 ( which I am trying to sell) I liked the
Mcgregor because it is easily trailerable, you don't need a tank to tow
it. and it is almost impossible to capsize. It will also float if the
hull ever should fail. The interior is good enough for 3 comfortably. I
sail in Monterey Cal and the Swell out in the Bay can exceed 15+ ft. With
the storm Jib and Reefed main she sails great. I have even taken waves
over the bow, granted it was a bit too rough that day, but the mcgregor is
pretty O.K.
If you should be interested in my Mac,
By the way, The boat is fully loaded, equip+ / 6 H.P. O.B and trailer
Ed Kahn
408-265-6701
Greg Jackson
-> and you can find them for less. I bought an '84 a couple of years ago for
-> $3800; it had been through Hugo on Lake Norman, and has some minor cosmetic
-> damage, but sails pretty well. Shoal draft, roller furling (I replaced the
-> somewhat wimpy original with CDI furling, which works pretty well); motor
-> and trailer included. I take it outside in Carolina coastal waters, and it
-> aquits itself pretty well, though I avoid the rough stuff (never had it out
-> in more than 20 knots and 3 footers)...
Agreed! The 222 is a great boat, much better than their original 22'. I
almost got a 222 but then saw an older O'Day 23 and got that instead. Both are
superior options to either the Mac or the Catalina 22, but the 222 is much
closer in size. The guy who eventually bought my O'Day 23 had a Catalina 22
before that and said the O'Day sailed much better.
G. Jackson
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William R. Turnbull
> Agreed! The 222 is a great boat, much better than their original 22'. I
What year did they start producing the 222? I'm looking at an
1982 O'day 22', I am not sure that it is a 222 though. Everyone I
talk to refers to it as a 222 but if a 222 looks anything like a
192 then this 22' is not a 222.
By the way they want $6900 for this O'day and it is pretty plainly
equipped, but very clean. Any opinions?
Bill
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Neil Simms
first built (I saw the news item at work, but my home server seems to have
lost it).
I believe it was first built around 1983 (I own a 1984 model). And yes, it
definitely should look just like a 192, and nothing like the old O'Day 22.
The 222 has flared topsides, much more beam, black acrylic windows, etc.
What you were looking at was definitely an older 22, and the price
mentioned (>$6K as I recall?) seems a bit steep - I paid less than $4K for
my '84, though $6-8K seem to be more typical asking prices for the 222.
Cheers,
Neil S.
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> I believe it was first built around 1983 (I own a 1984 model). And yes, it
> definitely should look just like a 192, and nothing like the old O'Day 22.
> The 222 has flared topsides, much more beam, black acrylic windows, etc.
> What you were looking at was definitely an older 22, and the price
> mentioned (>$6K as I recall?) seems a bit steep - I paid less than $4K for
> my '84, though $6-8K seem to be more typical asking prices for the 222.
>
> Cheers,
>
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> Neil S.
That was me. I recently confirmed that the O'day I was looking at is
indeed not a 222. Because of this I am no longer pursuing it. However,
I am now interested in finding a 222. Do you trailer yours? and if so
what with? and what is the trailering weight of the 222.
I'll keep the boat rigged on the trailer and launch it with a Ford
Ranger with a 4.0L V-6.
Thanks.
Bill