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Sea Ray 270 Sundancer vs. Chaparral 27 Signature?

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Michael

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Jun 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/7/00
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Any input on ride quality, build quality, etc. would be greatly
appreciated!!

Scott & Lisa

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Jun 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/7/00
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Personally, I would buy the Sea Ray, but Chaparral's are nice also. I
kind of wonder why they call the Chap a Sig. 270 when its LOA is 26
2". Seems more like a Sig 260. The Sea Ray checks in at 27' 8"
(wonder how much longer the swim platform is <grin>). The Sea Ray is
also a little bit wider at 9' 2" whereas the Chap is 9'. Finally, the
Sea Ray's dry weight is about 1,300 lbs heavier. The Chap, however,
does have an option for twin V-6's whereas the Sea Ray max's out at a
single 7.4 BIII combo (I think).

So, the Sea Ray costs more, but it is a bit bigger. This may come
into play on choppier days. The extra engine on the Chap, while some
could call it overkill, would be a consideration. The cabin layouts
seem about the same, although I do not know if the Chap includes the
dinette the Sea Ray does (at the cost of a smaller V-berth).

Build is a you-pick-em. Both are good. I doubt anyone could give
credible evidence of one being vastly superior over the other. Our
Sea Ray feels very solid and we have not had any problems with it.

Ride is another up in the air issue. My Sea Ray 270 is an older model
(8.5 beam) so can't give you a good feeling there. We find it to ride
very nice, but we also drive it looking for the smooth water and try
to avoid the water on unpleasant days (pleasure boating as it were).
Based on the larger size and weight of the Sea Ray I would give it the
nod for choppy water ride and comfort due to spaciousness, but other
may disagree.

Look at them both. Get a water ride on each. Layout out all the
warranties and costs with each. In the end, the one you like better
is the best choice you can make.

Good luck!

Scott
The Novice Boater Resources
http://www.lisaandscott.com/NoviceBoating.htm


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John Smith

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Jun 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/8/00
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Hi,
I have a Sea Ray 270, 1999 model, actual length without platform is 27' 8".
My previous boat was a 1988 278 Chaparral which had twin 4.3 etc.
We never had any probs with hull etc of Chaparral, it was a good boat. Never
looked at a new one as not represented here at present. In this size boat I
would never get twin engine again, beam is just too small making maintenance
a nightmare. Not sure what a 270 with gas engine would do, I have 7.3 litre
diesel which can take its time to plane but wot is 38.5knots.

Regards John

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Tom Treadway

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I've got a 1999 270SE and love it! The SE is 8'6", and I believe the non-SE
version is wider. The 2000 270 is only in the wide version, I believe. We
sleep four (two adults and two kids) and are very comfortable. But if you
get a Kohler generator, make sure they put the water intake in the right
place. SeaRay had a mistake on their plans, causing the intake to be out of
the water while planning. The generator would overheat and shutoff.

Also, I had the 270SE in some nasty 4' chop and it felt pretty un-safe. You
would think a boat that big would handle it, but it didn't. Maybe it has
something to do with how narrow it is. It could have also just been a
problem with the kids and wife whining at me to turn around and head back.
;-)

Also, the 270SE doesn't have a walk-through windsheild, and walking around
the outside can be very tricky.

On last thing - I've got the 7.4L gas engine with Bravo III outdrive (dual,
counter-rotating props), and it moves REAL nice. Top speed is about 45mph,
and it easily pulls a skier with several large people in the boat.

Did I mention that I love my 270SE? Sorry, but I know nothing about the
Caparral.

TT

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Turridro22

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Jun 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/8/00
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The sundancer 270 is available with twin
4.3s but they are hard to come by. The dealers don't seem too eager to get
them . It could be because a 9'2 beam is only marginally wide enough for
twins.I had a sundancer 268 and it was a good boat.
I just looked closely at both. Both seem well made. I preferred the sea ray
because of styling and layout of cabin and cockpit. Also check the wellcraft
martinique and the Regal 2760. I traded my sea ray for a 2760 with twin 4.3
bravo 3s. I love the boat. It's layout and 9'11 beam fit my needs the best and
feel that it is well built.

Tim Wall

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Jun 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/9/00
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Are thinking about new or used? I owned a Chaparral XLC 278 for many
years and overall I thought it was a good boat (as mass produced boats
like Sea Ray and Chaparral go...). It had an excellent interior layout
for a narrow beam boat (much better than the Sea Ray 268 and Cruisers)
due to the "L" shaped dinette (vs. the usual "U" shaped). Allowed for a
lot more room to move about inside the cabin when the table was stowed
(which was always!). Unfortunately, Chaparral changed the interior
design to go with the usual U shaped dinette. Also, it was a much better
value than the Sea Ray in that came loaded with equipment for about the
same price as the Sea Ray stripped.

On the other hand, I think Sea Ray had a slight edge on build quality
(the Chaparral gel coat faded quickly; on my boat and several others
that I had seen - not sure if they ever got that fixed).

If cost is NOT a consideration, I would go with Sea Ray. However,
Chaparral is not a bad boat and is likely less money (maybe a lot less,
when you consider similar equipment). I have not checked the new boat
prices for either boat recently, but in my area, the Sea Ray commands a
high price in the used market. IMHO, much more than is justified,
against Chaparral. If the budget is tight, you get more for your money
in a used Chaparral. If you've just had a banner year in the stock
market, what the heck, go for the Sea Ray.

NAGS 65

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Jun 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/14/00
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You can never go wrong with a Sea Ray. Just my opinion. =)

Mats-Olof

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Jun 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/14/00
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Oh yeah!
I wonder why the whole toilet comparement in my 220 SD came loose,
and I didn't even use the boat in rough sea!!!

MOB

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Dave & Debbie

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My '89 Sea Ray 200 is great, except the floor is rotting above the gas tank,
and the 4.3 Mercruiser starts hard
after being off for about 20 minutes to eat a sandwich.

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Turridro22

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THey are both good boats. They are well made. I preferred the sea ray styling
to the chaparral.I had sea ray 268
which was a great boat. I looked at a lot of boats and loved both the sea ray
and the chap but after I saw the Regal 2760
I fell in love with it I thought it was the better of the 3 and bought it. Also
the manuverability of twins and the 10 ft beam
blew my sea ray away. I boat off Long Island NY so there is definitely some
varied water conditions and the regal is great.

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