3.5 hp Viking outboard

[Linda Grigg]

Ahoy all,

When the world was young, Eaton's up here in Canada sold outboard motors
badged with the "Viking" marque. I have one of these venerable old beasts
and it still chugs away. I have always wondered if this O/B has a cooling
system. It appears the cylinder head has fins which suggest air cooling,
but there is a water intake pipe mounted on a skeg just aft of the prop.
which suggests as if this is a cooling water intake. Can any outboard motor
cognoscenti's tell me is there more to the cooling system than meets the
eye? What sort of maintenance problems are associated with the cooling
system.. Any one having a service manual for this old beast and willing to
share, would be appreciated. How about making me a offer, so I can replace
it with a nice Honda 2hp, 4 stroke to push the old dink around.

Cheers,

Erwin Embacher

Sailing on Georgian Bay

[Marcus G Bell]

This motor was probably the same one made by West Bend, later by
Chrysler. It (or similar models) was also sold by Sears as "Elgin",
Montgomery Ward as "Sea King". I had the Sea King version years ago.

The powerhead is air-cooled, while the exhaust tube is water-cooled.
There is no pump, but that little snorkel you see coming from the
exhaust outlet gets a blast of propwash and thus is pressurized to
send water to the top of the exhaust tube. During operation above slow
idle, you should see a bit of water mist puffing out of the relief
holes halfway down the exhaust tube. Run a piece of wire up the tube
if it gets clogged, or flush it with a garden hose. Keep the motor
vertical so that water doesn't run downhill into the powerhead.

For a service manual, try getting an old Chiltons like I have that
covers Chryslers 1966-72, 30 HP and under. Intertec sells an old OB
manual too, www.intertec.com, available at www.amazon.com.

There are many of these kickers around and their worth as collectibles
is about the same as their worth as a well used working motor. Nowhere
near the cost of a new 2 HP motor, especially a Honda.

For your edification, cognoscenti is plural and requires no 's on the
end.

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Marcus. ( be...@mail.med.upenn.edu )

[Paul Daniel Shepard]

In article <KvIe1.2842$gY.37...@news21.bellglobal.com>, "Linda Grigg" <lgr...@log.on.ca> wrote:
>Ahoy all,
>
>When the world was young, Eaton's up here in Canada sold outboard motors
>badged with the "Viking" marque. I have one of these venerable old beasts
>and it still chugs away. I have always wondered if this O/B has a cooling
>system. It appears the cylinder head has fins which suggest air cooling,
>but there is a water intake pipe mounted on a skeg just aft of the prop.
>which suggests as if this is a cooling water intake. Can any outboard motor
>cognoscenti's tell me is there more to the cooling system than meets the
>eye? What sort of maintenance problems are associated with the cooling
>system.. Any one having a service manual for this old beast and willing to
>share, would be appreciated. How about making me a offer, so I can replace
>it with a nice Honda 2hp, 4 stroke to push the old dink around.
>

>Cheers,
>
>Erwin Embacher
>
>Sailing on Georgian Bay
>

If it's anything like my recently aquired Montgomery Wards 3.5 , it is an air
cooled with a water cooled exhaust. There is a pump whose sole purpose is to
further cool the exhaust. My mechanic also says that the impellored system
keeps the engine temp down where the crankshaft seal is at the bottom of the
motor. He says that one can run the motor w/o the pump, but the seal might
then fail. Or not, he also said in the same breath. Look for a peehole and
make sure it is pumping water. I'm a little leery of this one too, but have
decided to try it for a least one season to see how she does. Good luck with
yours. PDS
>

[Marcus G Bell]

Paul Daniel Shepard (pa...@agames.com) wrote:

> If it's anything like my recently aquired Montgomery Wards 3.5 , it
> is an air cooled with a water cooled exhaust. There is a pump whose
> sole purpose is to further cool the exhaust.

This motor sounds newer than the 3.5 Monkey Wards I had, which had the
water cooled exhaust with NO impeller. Does your motor have the
U-shaped snorkel dangling out the exhaust outlet in front of the
impeller like that of the original poster and mine? The motors with
pumps tend to have a different water pickup. Eska and Clinton made a
lot of those types for catalog firms in the '60s through '80s,
air-cooled head with pump supplying water for the exhaust.

This is an important point, though. What is the age of the Viking in
question, and the Wards motor for that matter? Mine was a '68 (perhaps
older).

[Paul Daniel Shepard]

Don't know about the snorkel, but my Wards is a '76. I can look at it later

[Marcus G Bell]

> >Paul Daniel Shepard (pa...@agames.com) wrote:

> >> If it's anything like my recently aquired Montgomery Wards 3.5 , it
> >> is an air cooled with a water cooled exhaust. There is a pump whose
> >> sole purpose is to further cool the exhaust.

be...@mail.med.upenn.edu (Marcus G Bell) wrote:

> >This motor sounds newer than the 3.5 Monkey Wards I had, which had the
> >water cooled exhaust with NO impeller. Does your motor have the
> >U-shaped snorkel dangling out the exhaust outlet in front of the
> >impeller like that of the original poster and mine?

^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^

Paul Daniel Shepard (pa...@agames.com) wrote:

> Don't know about the snorkel, but my Wards is a '76. I can look at
> it later

I found a mistake in my earlier response. I wrote "impeller" in one
location where I meant "PROpeller", where the snorkel dangles in the
propwash.