History of Marine Toilets:
Gould 0738
last name of
"Crapper". Queen Victoria was so impressed he was knighted and became "Sir
Crapper".
So, current politics being as they are, does anybody know whether Monica
Lewinsky invented the marine toilet?
Larry Weiss
To quote the world's most foremost authority on the subject, "Uncle John's
Bathroom Reader":
"It is widely believed that an Englishman named Thomas Crapper invented the
toilet. Not true. That was a hoax.
"The modern flush toilet was invented by an Englishman named Alexander Cummings in
1775. Cumming's toilet emptied directly into a pipe which then carried the
undesirable matter to a cesspool. Other toilets had done this, too; but Cumming's
major improvement was the addition of a "stink trap" that kept the water in the
pipe, and thus blocked the odor"
I could find no mention in the book on Marine Toilets. (G)
Larry Weiss
"...Ever After!"
Peggie Hall
>
> Ha Ha!
>
> To quote the world's most foremost authority on the subject, "Uncle John's
> Bathroom Reader":
> "It is widely believed that an Englishman named Thomas Crapper invented the
> toilet. Not true. That was a hoax.
>
> "The modern flush toilet was invented by an Englishman named Alexander Cummings in
> 1775.
And Thomas Crapper wasn't born until 1836.
> Cumming's toilet emptied directly into a pipe which then carried the
> undesirable matter to a cesspool. Other toilets had done this, too; but Cumming's
> major improvement was the addition of a "stink trap" that kept the water in the
> pipe, and thus blocked the odor"
Cumming's "water closet" actually resembled today's portapotties...it
had a sliding valve across the bottom...when the user arrived, it
contained a few inches of water, held in by the valve. After using it,
the user plulled a leverl to slid eht valvle open and release the
contents of the pan to the trap below, and from there into the sewer.
The same lever simulatneously turned on the water to clean the pan, the
the valve was shut so that the pan contained some water for the next
person.
But he didn't invent the trap...in his 1775 patent application, Cumming
declared the "s-bend" or "u-bend" too well known to require a
description in it. No record of who patented the trap or when. A man
named Joseph Bramah patented a "water closet" in 1778--still before
Crapper was born--that included several refinements and improvements
over Cummings' design.
Peggie
cg...@ime.net
blow up in her face in such a sticky situation while just trying to get
ahead.
Larry
<lil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>I could find no mention in the book on Marine Toilets. (G)
>
>Larry Weiss
>"...Ever After!"
>
Marine toilets were invented by a sadist who was jealous of people who
could afford boats big enough to have marine toilets. Ask anyone with
a plugged up one....
Dave Brown
> Cumming's "water closet" actually resembled today's portapotties...it
> had a sliding valve across the bottom...when the user arrived, it
> contained a few inches of water, held in by the valve. After using it,
> the user plulled a leverl to slid eht valvle open and release the
> contents of the pan to the trap below, and from there into the sewer.
> The same lever simulatneously turned on the water to clean the pan, the
> the valve was shut so that the pan contained some water for the next
> person.
Be honest Peggie, you rubbed your hands with glee when you see a thread like this
coming, did't you?
I'm sure it's the same feeling when I see a head "Having trouble with my OMC....". ;-)
--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina
http://www.brownsmarina.on.ca/
Brian Grant
Gould 0738
Somebody better tell the British museum, and quickly.
On a stay in London a few years ago all of the underground stations had these
huge posters with an old watercloset
on it. It was one of the models with the wooden tank on about
a four foot pipe above the bowl. The brand name on the
tank, which invovled a cast iron plate which was screwed into the oak read
"Crapper". The poster was advertising an exhibiton of famous British
inventions, and there was a caption that said "Sir Thomas Crapper, 18XX."
Crapper must have contributed some fairly revolutionary
improvements. If not the father of the flush toilet, perhaps he's the father of
the "modern" flush toilet.....leaving lots of
room for Ms L. to be the mother of the marine head (provided her date takes her
out in a boat!)
Peggie Hall
>
> Be honest Peggie, you rubbed your hands with glee when you see a thread like this
> coming, did't you?
Postively chortled, I did...:-) Actually, this one seems to be a
resurrection of an old thread.
> I'm sure it's the same feeling when I see a head "Having trouble with my OMC....". ;-)
If wiring lights your fire, have I got one for you that will set your
heart absolutely ablaze! :-)
Glad to see you back!
Peggie
Peggie Hall
>
> Not Thomas Crapper?
>
Nope...
> Somebody better tell the British museum, and quickly.
Trust me--they know...
> On a stay in London a few years ago all of the underground stations had these
> huge posters with an old watercloset
> on it. It was one of the models with the wooden tank on about
> a four foot pipe above the bowl. The brand name on the
> tank, which invovled a cast iron plate which was screwed into the oak read
> "Crapper".
Yep...no contradiction there.
The poster was advertising an exhibiton of famous British
> inventions, and there was a caption that said "Sir Thomas Crapper, 18XX."
>
> Crapper must have contributed some fairly revolutionary
> improvements. If not the father of the flush toilet, perhaps he's the father of
> the "modern" flush toilet.....leaving lots of
> room for Ms L. to be the mother of the marine head (provided her date takes her
> out in a boat!)
Who's Ms. L. ???
Crapper was a very successful London plumber who was employed on at
least one occasion by the royal family. He took out 9 plumbing patents,
but none of them was for a siphonic flush or a valveless water-waste
preventer (which is what a flush toilet is)...however, during the
1880's no fewer than 20 different types of siphonic flush mechanisms a
year were patented by others...and in 1987 Sir T's nephew George did
take out a patent for "improvements in or relating to automatic syphon
flushing tanks." But that was more than 40 years after the first one
was invented...and in fact, the first patent for a siphonic flush was
taken out by Joseph Adamson in 1853, when Crapper (T) was only 17 years
old.
Crapper started his first business in 1861...it became the Thos. Crapper
and Co. Iron works...survived until 1966, and made manhole
covers--including several inside Westminster Abbey. He also mfr'd and
sold siphonic flush toilets, including the one you prob'ly saw on the
poster: "Crapper's Improved Registered Ornamental Flush-Down W.C....with
New Design Cast-Iron Sypon Water Waste Preventer." He may have been a
bit of a charleton, because in one of his ads he included a picture with
a label calling it "Crapper's Valveless Water Water Preventer" and a
fictitious patent number. So he WAS a major player, just not the father
of the flush toilet.
As for the word "crap," it also pre-dates Crapper...the OED defined it
as the husk of grain (chaff) in it's first edition in 1846...when he
was only 10 years old.
Tough to have your illusions shattered, ain't it? :-)
Peggie
Osrick
It was Sir Thomas Crapper's book, 'Flushed With Pride.'
"Too soon old. Too late smart."
Peter Kay
Veiled reference to Monica and her "activities".
--
Regards,
Peter
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Peggie Hall wrote in message <35FF401B...@worldnet.att.net>...
<snip>
>
>Who's Ms. L. ???
>
>Peggie
Dave Brown
> > I'm sure it's the same feeling when I see a head "Having trouble with my OMC....". ;-)
>
> OMC, Hmmm, is that an Onboard Marine Convenience :-)
D'OH!
I'm sure there's a Murphy's law about how a typo will somehow make sense in the context it
which it was placed, but with an entirely different meaning. ;-)
Dale 3
>and Co. Iron works...survived until 1966, and made manhole<BR>
>covers--including several inside Westminster Abbey. He also mfr'd and<BR>
>sold siphonic flush toilets, including the one you prob'ly saw on the<BR>
>poster: "Crapper's Improved Registered Ornamental Flush-Down W.C....with<BR>
>New Design Cast-Iron Sypon Water Waste Preventer." He may have been a<BR>
>bit of a charleton, because in one of his ads he included a picture with<BR>
>a label calling it "Crapper's Valveless Water Water Preventer" and a<BR>
>fictitious patent number. So he WAS a major player, just not the father<BR>
>of the flush toilet. <BR>
><BR>
>As for the word "crap," it also pre-dates Crapper...the OED defined it<BR>
>as the husk of grain (chaff) in it's first edition in 1846...when he<BR>
>was only 10 years old. <BR>
><BR>
>Tough to have your illusions shattered, ain't it? :-)<BR>
><BR>
>Peggie<BR>
SO why hasn't anyone invented a mechanism to put the lid down automaticaly?
Larry
<da...@brownsmarina.on.ca> wrote:
>
>Be honest Peggie, you rubbed your hands with glee when you see a thread like this
>coming, did't you?
>
>I'm sure it's the same feeling when I see a head "Having trouble with my OMC....". ;-)
>
>
>--
>Regards,
>
> Dave Brown
> Brown's Marina
> http://www.brownsmarina.on.ca/
>
>
I have the same feeling when I hear the start of a good thunderstorm.
I just KNOW that last big boom took out the power supply from a church
organ for me to fix...(c;
Larry
Peggie Hall
>
> SO why hasn't anyone invented a mechanism to put the lid down automaticaly?
That was invented long before the flush toilet was..it's called an arm.
The female version has always worked perfectly...however there seems to
be an inherent design flaw in the male command module that prevents it
from being more than about 10% reliable.
Peggie
Chuck Taylor
> > SO why hasn't anyone invented a mechanism to put the lid down automaticaly?
And Peggie Hall replied:
> That was invented long before the flush toilet was..it's called an arm.
> The female version has always worked perfectly...however there seems to
> be an inherent design flaw in the male command module that prevents it
> from being more than about 10% reliable.
Toilet seats are actually a form of intelligence test. The test
is whether a person is smart enough to look before they sit. One
gender seems to be deficient in that area, which is why they make
so much fuss about the issue! :-)
Chuck Taylor
Dave Brown
> > SO why hasn't anyone invented a mechanism to put the lid down automaticaly?
>
> That was invented long before the flush toilet was..it's called an arm.
> The female version has always worked perfectly...however there seems to
> be an inherent design flaw in the male command module that prevents it
> from being more than about 10% reliable.
Which begs the question, who the hell ever said that 'down' was the proper
position? ;-)
Bet the women would be pissed off if we put *both* lids down all the time too.
;-)
At least when we leave it up, you know we didn't 'sprinkle' it for you. <BG>
Dave
Larry
wrote:
>Dale 3 wrote:
>>
>> SO why hasn't anyone invented a mechanism to put the lid down automaticaly?
>
>That was invented long before the flush toilet was..it's called an arm.
>The female version has always worked perfectly...however there seems to
>be an inherent design flaw in the male command module that prevents it
>from being more than about 10% reliable.
>
>Peggie
>
Gee, mine has a sign that says:
"LADIES, PLEASE REMEMBER TO LEAVE THE SEAT IN THE 'UP' POSITION."
Larry
<da...@brownsmarina.on.ca> wrote:
>
>At least when we leave it up, you know we didn't 'sprinkle' it for you. <BG>
>
>Dave
>
Just for fun...Let's just LEAVE IT in the down position and see if
they continue to bitch about it....wanna bet?
L
Peggie Hall
>
> > Dale 3 wrote:
>
> > > SO why hasn't anyone invented a mechanism to put the lid down automaticaly?
>
>
> > That was invented long before the flush toilet was..it's called an arm.
> > The female version has always worked perfectly...however there seems to
> > be an inherent design flaw in the male command module that prevents it
> > from being more than about 10% reliable.
>
> is whether a person is smart enough to look before they sit. One
> gender seems to be deficient in that area, which is why they make
> so much fuss about the issue! :-)
Ok...YOU get up in the middle of the night and stagger into the bathroom
only barely enough awake to get there, in the dark so you won't wake
anyone else up and back into a sitting position over the bowl. OTOH,
since the shriek when your fanny hits the water is gonna wake everybody
up anyway, it prob'ly would make more sense just to turn on the light
and look before sitting...:-)
BTW...How much intelligence is required of those who stand FACING the
appliance to perfect their aim? :-)
Peggie
Peggie
Peggie Hall
>
> Peggie Hall wrote:
>
> > > SO why hasn't anyone invented a mechanism to put the lid down automaticaly?
> >
> > The female version has always worked perfectly...however there seems to
> > be an inherent design flaw in the male command module that prevents it
> > from being more than about 10% reliable.
>
> position? ;-)
See my reply to Chuck...:-)
> Bet the women would be pissed off if we put *both* lids down all the
time too.
Unfortunately, that's not an original idea...:-)
> At least when we leave it up, you know we didn't 'sprinkle' it for you. <BG>
No...just the floor in front of it...:-)
Peggie
Peggie Hall
> Just for fun...Let's just LEAVE IT in the down position and see if
> they continue to bitch about it....wanna bet?
Of course...it's our job to bitch....Yours is to be the bitchee! :-)
Peggie
Questin
>Peggie Hall wrote:
>
>> > SO why hasn't anyone invented a mechanism to put the lid down automaticaly?
>>
>Which begs the question, who the hell ever said that 'down' was the proper
>position? ;-)
>Bet the women would be pissed off if we put *both* lids down all the time too.
>;-)
>At least when we leave it up, you know we didn't 'sprinkle' it for you. <BG>
>Dave
Then there's those stupid, useless, fuzzy "feminine" covers women put
on lids that don't have enough clearance to acommodate them; ensuring
that when you're halfway through emptying your bladder, the seat AND
lid suddenly fall shut with a bang. Now there's a sprinkle: THERE'S a
piss-off, literally.
Intelligence, sure enough.
Questin.
capti...@webtv.net
AYE! AYE! MATE
CAPTAIN MORGAN
Marcus G Bell
> Then there's those stupid, useless, fuzzy "feminine" covers women put
> on lids that don't have enough clearance to acommodate them; ensuring
> that when you're halfway through emptying your bladder, the seat AND
> lid suddenly fall shut with a bang. Now there's a sprinkle: THERE'S a
> piss-off, literally.
You have to notice that it's happening, which for me is a big part of
the problem, since my attention tends to wander. My own son (4 years
old) is showing these same signs of being bored with the event, and
his attention drifts away from this task, mid-process. The toy boats
we have on the top of the toilet tank might be compounding this.
Once you're convinced a lid fall is inevitable, you have many choices
and little time.
1) Do I attempt an "emergency shutoff procedure" with the normal
bladder machinery, risking a hernia, or at least something that feels
like a hernia?
2) Do I take one hand away from "the business at hand" to steady the
lid, possibly allowing the elastic in my pants/undergarments to change
position and affect my aim adversely?
3) How about a "manual pinchoff" which isn't quite so drastic as in
#1, but suffers momentary aiming problems as in #2?
4) Shall I try something new this time, since nothing else I tried in
the past has worked?
My particular choice in clothing and styles allows me to perform
operation #2 pretty well, after I had some practice of course. What's
the relevance to boats here? Well, if you're aboard a boat, chances
are pretty good that you'll need a spare hand to steady yourself to
keep from falling off your feet when a wave hits, possibly landing you
belly up while your effluent describes a graceful arc several feet
above you, but not missing you on its return. So the "one hander" is
a pretty good maneuver.
Or, you could just sit on the damn pot and prevent splatter, falling,
and this messing with an up/down seat at all. It gives you time to
think about something other than how many bubbles you're making, and
allows your attention to drift away from "the matter at hand" towards
more lofty pursuits.
Hmmm. Anybody of the XY chromosome persuasion ever thought of that?
Anybody admit it?
-- -- Marcus. ( be...@mail.med.upenn.edu )
I'm talking about piss in a boating newsgroup. Gads, it's come to
that, has it?
G. Gerald Barr
Marcus G Bell wrote in message <6tpj9s$qmh$1...@netnews.upenn.edu>...
>Questin wrote:
>
>> Then there's those stupid, useless, fuzzy "feminine" covers women put
Tough call on this one. We got rid of these things in our own house, but
they always seem to show up when you are a guest at someone elses place,
with lots of others and probably wearing tan slacks. Any of the proposed
options can have bad side effects. In extreme cases, where time is of the
essence, your next suggestion has merit. Besides, you can always convice
yourself some heavy tinking was required just then.
>Or, you could just sit on the damn pot and prevent splatter, falling,
>and this messing with an up/down seat at all. It gives you time to
>think about something other than how many bubbles you're making, and
>allows your attention to drift away from "the matter at hand" towards
>more lofty pursuits.
Works great, especially in the in the dark & you don't have to turn on the
light or wake up too much. Has drawbacks when some zealot has closed both
lids. Even worse when both are left open. About one nonosecond of fear, as
you hit that cold porcelain and then with any luck at all fall into the
water.
At the boat it is definetly the lesser of two evils. There is only one
potential splatterer in our family unit, I would rather sit back with my
feet up & drink a beer than swab the head. Absulutely a no brainer.
Ken Dyer
Danmark catalog is a device called the His 'N Her Bathroom nightlight - "Go"
Light for Her, "Target" Light for Him. The copy reads "It's 3:00 in the
morning, you stumble into your bathroom half asleep, not wanting to turn on
the lights and wake yourself too much. Is the seat up or down? Where
exactly is the toilet anyway? The His 'N Her motion-activated night light
comes with an infrared sensor that automatically turns on a guiding light
when you get within six feet. If the seat is up, a red bullseye apppears in
the toilet bowl for him. If the seat is down, a green light gives her the
okay. Then it turns off after you've left. It's also great for kids.
Includes double side tape and batteries." Included are some real catchy
pictures. I figure at 3 am I could hit a bullseye. Save for the stupid fuzzy
cover situation, could be the solution we all need.
Ken
Larry
No, Bayliner toilets don't have covers to leave up. They cater to the
Asian toilet crowd....(c;
Larry
wrote:
>Questin wrote:
>
>> Then there's those stupid, useless, fuzzy "feminine" covers women put
>> on lids that don't have enough clearance to acommodate them; ensuring
>> that when you're halfway through emptying your bladder, the seat AND
>> lid suddenly fall shut with a bang. Now there's a sprinkle: THERE'S a
>> piss-off, literally.
>
>You have to notice that it's happening, which for me is a big part of
>the problem, since my attention tends to wander. My own son (4 years
>old) is showing these same signs of being bored with the event, and
>his attention drifts away from this task, mid-process. The toy boats
>we have on the top of the toilet tank might be compounding this.
>
>Once you're convinced a lid fall is inevitable, you have many choices
>and little time.
>
>1) Do I attempt an "emergency shutoff procedure" with the normal
>bladder machinery, risking a hernia, or at least something that feels
>like a hernia?
>
>2) Do I take one hand away from "the business at hand" to steady the
>lid, possibly allowing the elastic in my pants/undergarments to change
>position and affect my aim adversely?
>
>3) How about a "manual pinchoff" which isn't quite so drastic as in
>#1, but suffers momentary aiming problems as in #2?
>
>4) Shall I try something new this time, since nothing else I tried in
>the past has worked?
>
Although I had not listed these possibilities, before. I feel you
missed one that will solve this "Toilet Cover Gravity Effect", once
and for all.
5) Let the damned lid/seat fall into the stream and piss all over the
pink fluffy cover, soaking it REALLY well in the process. This will
cause the pink fluffy cover to require constant cleaning as soon as
the XY chromosome detects the smell with her "Stick-Up" gas detector.
As soon as ALL the pink fluffy covers have been removed to the
cleaning compartment, it will become impossible for the XY chromosome
to keep up with the demand for CLEAN pink fluffy covers. Now bared of
the supply of pink fluffy covers, the cover will stay up....until the
cleaning department replaces them. At some point, XY will get the
message.
Sorry you'll be sleeping in the flybridge chairs until forgiven. I
think 5) may be on my ex's list of why she left. It worked well for
me...(c;
Larry...Parrots NEVER leave the seat up.
Peggie Hall
>
> On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:11:50 -0400, Dave Brown
> Then there's those stupid, useless, fuzzy "feminine" covers women put
Now wait just a cotton pickin' minute..."feminine" and "absolutely NO
taste when it comes to interior decor" are NOT synonyms! :-)
However fuzzy toilet lid covers ARE a step up from musical toilet paper
rollers that play "How Dry I Am" every time you pull off a sheet...:-)
Peggie
that don't have enough clearance to acommodate them; ensuring
> that when you're halfway through emptying your bladder, the seat AND
> lid suddenly fall shut with a bang. Now there's a sprinkle: THERE'S a
> piss-off, literally.
>
> Intelligence, sure enough.
>
> Questin.
Peggie Hall
have have broadened my education more than the last two ABYC seminars
did! (You've also cleared up a lot of confusion that's lasted for at
least a couple of decades about why I've mopped up what I've mopped up
where I've mopped it up!) <LOL>
Peggie
Peggie
Marcus G Bell wrote:
>
> Questin wrote:
>
> > Then there's those stupid, useless, fuzzy "feminine" covers women put
> > on lids that don't have enough clearance to acommodate them; ensuring
> > that when you're halfway through emptying your bladder, the seat AND
> > lid suddenly fall shut with a bang. Now there's a sprinkle: THERE'S a
> > piss-off, literally.
>
> You have to notice that it's happening, which for me is a big part of
> the problem, since my attention tends to wander. My own son (4 years
> old) is showing these same signs of being bored with the event, and
> his attention drifts away from this task, mid-process. The toy boats
> we have on the top of the toilet tank might be compounding this.
>
> Once you're convinced a lid fall is inevitable, you have many choices
> and little time.
>
> 1) Do I attempt an "emergency shutoff procedure" with the normal
> bladder machinery, risking a hernia, or at least something that feels
> like a hernia?
>
> 2) Do I take one hand away from "the business at hand" to steady the
> lid, possibly allowing the elastic in my pants/undergarments to change
> position and affect my aim adversely?
>
> 3) How about a "manual pinchoff" which isn't quite so drastic as in
> #1, but suffers momentary aiming problems as in #2?
>
> 4) Shall I try something new this time, since nothing else I tried in
> the past has worked?
>
> My particular choice in clothing and styles allows me to perform
> operation #2 pretty well, after I had some practice of course. What's
> the relevance to boats here? Well, if you're aboard a boat, chances
> are pretty good that you'll need a spare hand to steady yourself to
> keep from falling off your feet when a wave hits, possibly landing you
> belly up while your effluent describes a graceful arc several feet
> above you, but not missing you on its return. So the "one hander" is
> a pretty good maneuver.
>
> Or, you could just sit on the damn pot and prevent splatter, falling,
> and this messing with an up/down seat at all. It gives you time to
> think about something other than how many bubbles you're making, and
> allows your attention to drift away from "the matter at hand" towards
> more lofty pursuits.
>
P...@boston.harbor
I've always had this problem with women leaving the seat down...
It's such an inconvenience for me to lift it to the 'proper' position,
but I don't ever complain about it (until now!)
>>
>> SO why hasn't anyone invented a mechanism to put the lid down automaticaly?
>
>That was invented long before the flush toilet was..it's called an arm.
>The female version has always worked perfectly...however there seems to
>be an inherent design flaw in the male command module that prevents it
>from being more than about 10% reliable.
>
>Peggie
Peggie Hall
> Works great, especially in the in the dark & you don't have to turn on the
> light or wake up too much. Has drawbacks when some zealot has closed both
> lids. Even worse when both are left open. About one nonosecond of fear, as
> you hit that cold porcelain and then with any luck at all fall into the
> water.
YESSSSSS!!!!! :-)
> At the boat it is definetly the lesser of two evils. There is only one
> potential splatterer in our family unit, I would rather sit back with my
> feet up & drink a beer than swab the head. Absulutely a no brainer.
>
> >
> >Hmmm. Anybody of the XY chromosome persuasion ever thought of that?
> >Anybody admit it?
Of course...but on my boat I'M the one who has to clean the bloomin'
head!
> >I'm talking about piss in a boating newsgroup. Gads, it's come to
> >that, has it?
Now you know how I feel...:-)
Peggie
Gould 0738
A few years ago my business employed 5 men and 1 woman.
One bathroom shared by all.
One day "she" came to me to complain that we guys weren't
putting the seat down when we finished.
I merely pointed out that the ratio of standers to vs. sitters to
was 5 to 1, and would she be so kind as to remember to
please put it back "up" in the future?
She didn't speak to me for about 3 days thereafter.
Peggie Hall
...For any woman who has eyes in the back of her head, perhaps. You face
it...we don't. :-)
Marcus G Bell
> > Even in this arena technology steps in and gives us a helping
> hand!!! In a > Danmark catalog is a device called the His 'N Her
> Bathroom nightlight - "Go" > Light for Her, "Target" Light for
> Him. ...
Peggie Hall (peg...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
> ...For any woman who has eyes in the back of her head, perhaps. You
> face it...we don't. :-)
Are you telling me you always enter the bathroom butt first ? The
device indicates the seat position when you get within 6 feet of it. I
don't know about you, but I wait till I get a bit closer before I turn
around :-)
Now, I have heard the phrase "that latrine is so small that you have
to step outside to change your mind." Obviously applies to those who
stand or sit, situation-depending. There, you'd be entering
butt-first to "sit".
Now, for the home, I find that there's an extremely useful device
called an automatic night light. It has an electric eye to turn on
when the room is dark enough. First Alert and Intermatic both sell
them in blister packs of 2 for $5. One of these is plugged into the
outlet next to our sink (the shaver/hair dryer outlet) and illuminates
BOTH the sink and commode with a warm 4 watt glow. This is more than
enough for you and your dark-adapted eyes to navigate the plumbing
without resorting to the blinding twin-60-watt main lights.
Marcus G Bell
> wrote:
> >Once you're convinced a lid fall is inevitable, you have many choices
> >and little time....
> >
> >4) Shall I try something new this time, since nothing else I tried in
> >the past has worked?
Larry (kn...@ITCsproing.com) wrote:
> Although I had not listed these possibilities, before. I feel you
> missed one that will solve this "Toilet Cover Gravity Effect", once
> and for all.
> 5) Let the damned lid/seat fall into the stream and piss all over
> the pink fluffy cover, soaking it REALLY well in the process. This
> will cause the pink fluffy cover to require constant cleaning as
> soon as the XY [sic] chromosome detects the smell with her
> "Stick-Up" gas detector. As soon as ALL the pink fluffy covers have
> been removed to the cleaning compartment, it will become impossible
> for the XY [sic] chromosome to keep up with the demand for CLEAN
> pink fluffy covers.
Larry, you've just reminded me of a particularly awful experience
involving too many raw clams and beer and a pink-cover-bedecked toilet
lid. I don't think I need explain it further.
Now, for those who couldn't stay awake during high school biology and
might have been confused by my reference and Larry's followup, a quick
primer in sex chromosomes:
XX = genetic female
XY = genetic male
there are abberations, such as
XXY = Klinefelter male; male genitalia but lacking many other "male"
characteristics. XYY = "Super Male"; male genitalia and exaggerated
male characteristics, often very aggressive personality. I don't feel
like looking it up, but I think "single X" is "Turner female" which
results in a striking female appearance, but with somewhat broadened
shoulders and possibly missing certain female internal organs.
In some households, the actual REAL XY does the laundry HIMself. That
would make Larry's proposal backfire, as effective as it may be
elsewhere. The XY might however escape laundry duty after repeated
displays of incompetence involving the XX's silk blouses.
Peggie Hall
> > ...For any woman who has eyes in the back of her head, perhaps. You
> > face it...we don't. :-)
>
> Are you telling me you always enter the bathroom butt first ?
Well...yeah...kinda...at least the part of where the toilet in my master
bath is--a little enclosed "room." The bowl is at 90 degrees to the door
to it...so nocturnal trips are: through the bathroom raising sail
(nightie) as I go, hit the door to the toilet, rotate butt and
sit--preferably without having to open my eyes. :-) However, since my
husband died, seat up/seat down has been a non-issue (although once I
did surprise the hell out of the cat--who was sprawled over the seat
drinking out of the bowl at the time) ...should I ever share a bathroom
again, I'm prob'ly gonna need some retraining...or a nightlight. :-)
Peggie
The
> device indicates the seat position when you get within 6 feet of it. I
> don't know about you, but I wait till I get a bit closer before I turn
> around :-)
>
> Now, I have heard the phrase "that latrine is so small that you have
> to step outside to change your mind." Obviously applies to those who
> stand or sit, situation-depending. There, you'd be entering
> butt-first to "sit".
>
> Now, for the home, I find that there's an extremely useful device
> called an automatic night light. It has an electric eye to turn on
> when the room is dark enough. First Alert and Intermatic both sell
> them in blister packs of 2 for $5. One of these is plugged into the
> outlet next to our sink (the shaver/hair dryer outlet) and illuminates
> BOTH the sink and commode with a warm 4 watt glow. This is more than
> enough for you and your dark-adapted eyes to navigate the plumbing
> without resorting to the blinding twin-60-watt main lights.
>
G. Gerald Barr
They hate getting wet.
Peggie Hall wrote in message <36012759...@worldnet.att.net>...
Peggie Hall
>
> As an alternative to those fuzzy feminine things a cat is not the answer.
> They hate getting wet.
No sh..er, kidding--and a Siamese won't hesitate tell you so! He didn't
get wet, but he sure woke me up...:-)
mudfly
> BTW...How much intelligence is required of those who stand FACING the
> appliance to perfect their aim? :-)
>
> Peggie
Reminds of the cute little signs my wife hangs up in the bathroom on
occasion. One is "Be like dad not like sis raise the lid before you
piss. My all time favorite is " Stand Closer, its shorter than you
think"
Once my wife complained about having to back into the toilet on our
boat, I replied that I would teach her to back the boattrailer then
perhaps she could get her butt into the Head. The old adage about Hell
having no fury as a woman scorned is true!
Rick
Dave Brown
> Or, you could just sit on the damn pot and prevent splatter, falling,
> and this messing with an up/down seat at all. It gives you time to
> think about something other than how many bubbles you're making, and
> allows your attention to drift away from "the matter at hand" towards
> more lofty pursuits.
> Hmmm. Anybody of the XY chromosome persuasion ever thought of that?
> Anybody admit it?
Without a doubt Marcus, you are the king of commedy in this NG. Nearly
pissed myself just visualizing what you were saying.
If I could add to this part:
> You have to notice that it's happening, which for me is a big part of
> the problem, since my attention tends to wander. My own son (4 years
> old) is showing these same signs of being bored with the event, and
> his attention drifts away from this task, mid-process. The toy boats
> we have on the top of the toilet tank might be compounding this.
Have you noticed that young boys 'apendage' is aligned to their line of
sight? If I happen to walk in while one of my sons is doing his business,
he does not turn his head to see who's entering, rather his whole body --
and if its me he's looking at.........
On a side note, the eldest's pressure is like nothing I've ever seen -- the
boy could hit a target 15 feet away on a windy day. Me, I rely heavily on
gravity. ;-)
--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina
http://www.brownsmarina.on.ca/
Dave Brown
> BTW...How much intelligence is required of those who stand FACING the
> appliance to perfect their aim? :-)
Intelligence is not the problem. Try aiming a 12" fire hose with one hand (the
other's holding the seat up because somebody bought the foam padded one that won't
say on it's own). ;-)
BTW, I can't recall seeing any other thread that developed this much volume in this
short of time. Incredible!
Questin
>
> I would like to change the interior layout of my 36 footer. Where can I find
> suppliers of furniture and marine bathroom fixtures like molded showers etc.
Start looking at home building supply places. There's nothing "marine"
about molded shower stalls, faucets, sinks etc...they're just more
expensive from marine sources. The only kicker may be sizes of sinks
etc. Big RV suppliers are another source.
BTW...keep weight distribution in mind when you start moving
things...A
33' Chris on my dock lists to starboard because one gas tank, the
water
tank, holding tank, galley, and head are all on that side of the boat.
Peggie
Peggie, good advice & thanks for not mentioning the fuzzy pink thing
to him, but I can't believe you have missed referring CPMont to this
thread? 'Course we don't know if (s)he's a pointer or a setter.
Questin.
Peggie Hall
involved in some "unusual" conversations many times before...but this
one takes the cake!
Peggie
Clfox
One more thing about the cats on the toliets. They are very hard to flush.
Charlie Fox
Peter Kay
bigger!
--
Regards,
Peter
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Dave Brown wrote in message <36015BDE...@brownsmarina.on.ca>...
R.Harrington-Johnson
put the hole in it.
BilllamI
>Subject: Re: History of Marine Toilets:
>From: goul...@aol.com (Gould 0738)
>Date: 9/16/98 10:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <19980917010644...@ng07.aol.com>
That's priceless!
I request that the lid(s) be placed down after head usage because it looks
nicer and the practice goes along with being "ship shape".
Bill Landsborough
Mart Green
> Try aiming a 12" fire hose with one hand
Centimeters? A new ruler?
Peggie Hall
>
> The old saying goes the Irish then invented the toilet seat but the English
> put the hole in it.
<LOL>...I gotta remember that one! :-)
Peggie
Questin
wrote:
>Dave Brown wrote:
>> Try aiming a 12" fire hose with one hand
>
>Centimeters? A new ruler?
But does he get to use it, as a rule?
Questin.
G. Gerald Barr
Dave Brown wrote in message <36015BDE...@brownsmarina.on.ca>...
Try aiming a 12" fire hose with one hand (the
Ed
wrote:
<SNIP>
>If wiring lights your fire, have I got one for you that will set your
>heart absolutely ablaze! :-)
>
>Glad to see you back!
>
>Peggie
Don't tell me you still don't have that electrical bug worked out!?
-Ed G.
Peggie Hall
> Don't tell me you still don't have that electrical bug worked out!?
Which one? :-) We've about got most of 'em sorted out...but did I tell
you about the time I plugged a handheld spotlight into a chartlight
(cigarette lighter) receptacle--and the starboard engine started?
It happened...cross my heart! :-)
Peggie
Ted H
Y'know, that hook-up just might serve as an anti-theft device. Who'd
think of plugging a load into the 12V power point to start an engine!?
Trouble is, it'd be a PITA if you really needed to use the lite - the
starter an' all spinnin'.....
Ted H
Ken Norling
Questin wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:41:30 -0400, Mart Green <gr...@sojourn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Dave Brown wrote:
> >> Try aiming a 12" fire hose with one hand
> >
Peggie Hall
Funny thing was, I'd been running the VHF off that receptacle for a
years with no problems...but a VHF doesn't have NEARLY the resistance
that a spotlight does. I discovered the problem when I was committee
boat for a race that didn't finish before dark and sent someone up to
the bridge with the light to shine sail #'s as the boats crossed. Got my
mechanics to undoo that one the next day...but then there wasn't enough
power to operate the VHF any more....<sigh>...so back on the phone to
"the boys" (my mechanics)... As I said...I could take the story of this
boat's 12v electrical system on the road to comedy clubs! :-) We could
just run down every bloomin' circuit on the boat to find EVERYthing and
fix it...but that's a BUNCH of labor hour$. So, one thing at a time
we've found just about--and maybe all--of 'em.
Peggie
Peggie
Peggie Hall
>
> this thread has gone right down the crapper !!!!!!
Not quite how I would have put it :-) but it does seem to have
degenerated a bit...
Peggie