Windows Vista SP1 Flunks Out At Penn
Reginald P. Smithers III
it looks like they are up a creek without a paddle (boating reference).
Windows Vista SP1 Flunks Out At Penn
University of Pennsylvania tech staffers are advising faculty and
students not to upgrade to the new service pack for Microsoft's Windows
Vista operating system.
By Paul McDougall
InformationWeek
March 21, 2008 10:53 AM
Windows Vista SP1 Is having a tough time getting into the Ivy League.
University of Pennsylvania tech staffers are advising faculty and
students not to upgrade their computers to the new service pack for
Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT)'s Windows Vista operating system.
The school's Information Systems & Computing department said it will
support Vista SP1 on new systems where it's pre-installed, but added
that it "strongly recommends that all other users adopt a 'wait and see'
attitude," according to a newly published department bulletin.
Penn's ISC department advised "continuing to use previous versions of
Windows XP and Windows Vista until after the initial bugs in SP1 are
identified and fixed."
Vista SP1 users have reported numerous glitches since the operating
system became widely available on Tuesday.
"I downloaded it via Windows Update, and got a bluescreen on the third
part of the update," wrote "Iggy33", in a comment posted Wednesday on
Microsoft's Vista team blog.
Iggy33 was just one of dozens of posters complaining about Vista Service
Pack 1's effect on their PCs. "What a disaster," wrote "SeppDietrich",
of the update. "It exiled all my Nvidia drivers to the Bermuda Triangle."
"Bikkja" said that "after installing SP1 things seem to go really slow,
even though my computer shouldn't have any problems."
Other troubles reported by Vista SP1 users ranged from a simple
inability to download the software from Microsoft's Windows Update site
to sudden spikes in memory usage.
It's not uncommon for major software patches to cause problems when
first released. Windows XP Service Pack 1 inflicted numerous glitches on
host computers when it shipped in 2002. Microsoft fixed many of the
problems with subsequent patches.
Penn's ISC department said computer users at the Ivy League school
should have systems that employ at least a dual-core or hyperthreading
processor and a minimum of 1.5 GB of RAM before considering an upgrade
to Vista SP1.
That's well above Microsoft's stated minimum requirements for the
operating system. The software maker recommends at least a 1-GHz, single
core processor and 1 GB of RAM for the Premium, Business and Ultimate
versions of Vista.
HK
> Well, I was hoping MS might have corrected their problems with SP1, but
> it looks like they are up a creek without a paddle (boating reference).
>
>
More b.s. from Reggie the Snark, who doesn't give a tinker's dam about
Vista, but only posts this crap to *try* to annoy VISTA users, who,
sadly for him, think him only a bigger fool for playing this game.
Reginald P. Smithers III
If a Vista user was happy with their system, why the hell would they
care if the Univ. of Pennsylvania thought the SP1 was full of bugs and
did not recommend people install it?
It should not impact anyone who is happy with Vista and/or Vista SP1 at
all, this was for the people who have not purchased Vista or those who
have not installed SP1 yet. I do plan on purchasing 2 new laptops in
the next 3 months, and don't want to pay the extra for Apple, so I am
watching it closely.
HK
> HK wrote:
>> Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
>>> Well, I was hoping MS might have corrected their problems with SP1,
>>> but it looks like they are up a creek without a paddle (boating
>>> reference).
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> More b.s. from Reggie the Snark, who doesn't give a tinker's dam about
>> Vista, but only posts this crap to *try* to annoy VISTA users, who,
>> sadly for him, think him only a bigger fool for playing this game.
>
> If a Vista user was happy with their system, why the hell would they
> care if the Univ. of Pennsylvania thought the SP1 was full of bugs and
> did not recommend people install it?
What the hell do you care, dipshit? You don't use VISTA and you aren't
going to do so. I believe there are two or three VISTA users here and
all of us know more about computers right now than you ever will in your
entire life.
As I said, you're just playing the snark here.
Get a life.
JoeSpareBedroom
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> HK wrote:
>> Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
>>> Well, I was hoping MS might have corrected their problems with SP1, but
>>> it looks like they are up a creek without a paddle (boating reference).
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> More b.s. from Reggie the Snark, who doesn't give a tinker's dam about
>> Vista, but only posts this crap to *try* to annoy VISTA users, who, sadly
>> for him, think him only a bigger fool for playing this game.
>
> If a Vista user was happy with their system, why the hell would they care
> if the Univ. of Pennsylvania thought the SP1 was full of bugs and did not
> recommend people install it?
Excuse me???
If someone's happy with their unpatched computer, but 20 minutes later, they
install a patch and new problems arise, then it's obvious why the hell they
should care.
As far as the source of the warning (the university), institutional IT
departments are often the first to see a pattern. Your experience with your
own computer means nothing without more information.
JoeSpareBedroom
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I don't have my kid's Vista laptop here to poke around in. I'd like to call
him and give him a heads-up. How do you check quickly for the presence of a
service pack? Right click "my computer", as done with XP?
Loogy...@gmail.com
Yeah, Reggie, you know full and well that JimH and Harry know more
about operating systems than anyone, including Penn State's ISC
department.
HK
I'm not sure SP1 downloads all by itself.
In any event, I'm running SP1 VISTA. Everything on this system is
running in nominal fashion.
JoeSpareBedroom
Do you have a "my computer" icon on the desktop? If yes, please right click
it, click properties, and tell me if you see any mention of which service
pack is on the machine.
HK
Service Pack 1
JoeSpareBedroom
Thank you.
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I've been getting it for years. There's none better. They're usually on top
of software problems before the really bad ones hit national news (if ever).
D.Duck
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What I heard two days ago is that the Vista SP1 at this point in time must
be requested by the users. Sometime next month MS will start pushing it to
everyone.
Just what I've heard, take it for what it's worth.
JoeSpareBedroom
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I dunno about Vista. With XP, you could tell the OS to alert you when
updates (pranks) were available, but give you a choice about downloading &
installing. Not sure if Vista has that option. Considering how often
people's days were wrecked by some of the past updates, you'd think MS would
still offer that option.
HK
The option you describe is available.
Tim
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> > "D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote in message
> >news:kf6dnWs4lbfQrXna...@giganews.com...
> >>news:FPSEj.252$NU2...@news01.roc.ny...
> >>> "HK" <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:64ibnkF...@mid.individual.net...
> >>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >>>>> "HK" <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
In a previous post, Isaid I wouldn't know a Vista from a Shasta, but
my wife just got a new lappy with Vista, and she knows her way around
a computer a lot and exercises it much more that I can fathom, and she
hasen't complained about anything with Vista... Yet
HK
It takes a while to get used to the changes. UAC drove me battier until
I figured out how to shut it off.
Now that I have VISTA more or less under control, I am messing around
with Apple's Leopard OS.
More fun than attending a NASCAR race, for sure. :>}
Tim
HK wrote:
>
>
> More fun than attending a NASCAR race, for sure. :>}
Wwll, that's not saying much.
LOL!
Canuck57
"D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote in message
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>
You are correct. If you want it this month, you have to go into update,
select it and tell it to upgrade. For most machines, about an hour.
SP1 does not fix all issues. It did improve memory management a bit,
improvements in network copy performance and disk to disk copy. I think it
even fixed a bug or two in mail.
But am I happy with Vista? Nope. But not going to double pay for MS for XP
either. Testing out some Linux alternatives.
Canuck57
"Tim" <tsch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If all you do is surf, email and light word processing, you could be happy
with Vista. But going beyond that, it deteriorates fast.
JoeSpareBedroom
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What sorts of memory management issues are you noticing? How do they
manifest themselves?
John H.
Here "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Well, I was hoping MS might have corrected their problems with SP1, but
>it looks like they are up a creek without a paddle (boating reference).
>
>
>
>Windows Vista SP1 Flunks Out At Penn
>
>
>University of Pennsylvania tech staffers are advising faculty and
>students not to upgrade to the new service pack for Microsoft's Windows
>Vista operating system.
>
>By Paul McDougall
>InformationWeek
>March 21, 2008 10:53 AM
>
>
>Windows Vista SP1 Is having a tough time getting into the Ivy League.
>University of Pennsylvania tech staffers are advising faculty and
>students not to upgrade their computers to the new service pack for
>Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT)'s Windows Vista operating system.
Thanks. Interesting post. Makes me more sure about sticking with XP.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)
John H.
Whooosh.
Harry is happy with his Vista, and therefore should not care about what the
UP IT department says about it, and therefore should not be attacking
Reggie for providing some useful information.
HK
He can't remember. :>)
Canuck57
The one that hit me was excessive memory use. After clean boot the OS was
using almost 2GB of RAM. After ripping hard on support they gave me a patch
that does not load automatically - dropped it down to 1.45GB or so and
nothing else changed.
I am not sure, but think it is in SP1.
D-unit
"Canuck57" <dave-no...@unixhome.net>
> If all you do is surf, email and light word processing, you could be happy
> with Vista. But going beyond that, it deteriorates fast.
>
Also great for keeping your recipes!!!
db
HK
If you are a fan of absurd computer tales, this is the place to be.
John H.
Why?
My recipes seem to do all right on XP, although I'd imagine that Vista
probably adds a little more flavor.
Loogy...@gmail.com
> D-unit wrote:
> > "Canuck57" <dave-no.spam...@unixhome.net>
>
> >> If all you do is surf, email and light word processing, you could be happy
> >> with Vista. But going beyond that, it deteriorates fast.
>
> > Also great for keeping your recipes!!!
>
> > db
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
What about the information week article about Penn State do you not
believe and think absurd?