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Larry Weiss

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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I heard some stories about Doral having financial problems, or changing ownership
or something. Anyone know anything about this, or are they just stories?

Larry Weiss
",,,Ever After!"


TLK419 wrote:

> Does anyone have any first hand information on this brand. We've been looking
> at the Chris Craft 30' and the Doral 30'. From what we've read, the Doral has
> a pretty good reputation. We know Chris Craft it a good boat (have one now),
> but we feel like we're getting more for our money with the Doral because it is
> not a well known boat like the Chris Craft.
>
> We appreciate any information.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Taylor


Dave Brown

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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Larry Weiss wrote:

> I heard some stories about Doral having financial problems, or changing ownership
> or something. Anyone know anything about this, or are they just stories?

Like most manufacturers in the last 10 years, yes. :-)

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Dave Brown
Brown's Marina
Ontario, Canada
http://www.brownsmarina.on.ca

Phoenix

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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Well give us some more information Dave, have they changed owners, gone
bankrupt, merged, inquiring minds want to know.

2 years ago Doral opened a Dealer on Lake Lanier and I am very impressed by
their quality and their ergonomics (I always wanted to use that word and
make it seem like I knew what it meant).

--
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Jim

"There is one God, but which one is He?

Dave Brown wrote in message <36F0DA07...@brownsmarina.on.ca>...

Dave Brown

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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Phoenix wrote:

> Well give us some more information Dave, have they changed owners, gone
> bankrupt, merged, inquiring minds want to know.

Yes. :-)

They went down in the with a number of Canadian companies in about 1990, then
had a fling with a French company for a while (Jenneau) and when these guys
found out how little money there was in the boat business, they were sold to a
Canadian group of investors again. They seem as stable as any right now. There
was probably another blip in there somewhere, but honestly it happened to so
many in such a short time it's hard to remember all the details.

Phoenix

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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They must have some good people working for them, they make a great product.
It must be some transplanted Americans, I know Canadians couldn't be making
such a good product... ; )

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Jim

Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer again...

Dave Brown wrote in message <36F10693...@brownsmarina.on.ca>...

Phoenix

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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I will have to walk by on Sat., maybe I can bring some beer and make good
friends with the owner.

I have always said the only thing better than owning a boat is having a good
friend with a boat.

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Jim

I'm as confused as a baby at a topless bar!

RBStern wrote in message <19990318213710...@ng94.aol.com>...


|>2 years ago Doral opened a Dealer on Lake Lanier and I am very impressed
by
|>their quality and their ergonomics (I always wanted to use that word and
|>make it seem like I knew what it meant).
|>
|

|Jim, have you seen the Doral 360 on B-dock? Nothing short of awesome. It
is a
|beautiful boat. A totally racy looking express cruiser with a huge,
|teak-decked swim platform. I have to remember not to trip over my tongue
when
|I walk past it on the way down to my slip. And fast, according to the
dealer,
|who said something about mid to high 40s. Apparently Doral is doing
something
|to get a lot of speed out of their hulls. A friend purchased a Doral 300
|express from Supra Marine, and have said he's had 50 mph indicated. That's
|fast for a 30' long family boat.
|
|Rich Stern

Phoenix

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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They are at Aqualand Marina.

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Jim

Money talks - mine says "Goodbye"

Ed wrote in message <36f3cacb...@nntp1.ba.best.com>...
|On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:00:22 -0500, "Phoenix"


|<jga...@mindspring.comDeleteThis> wrote:
|
|>Well give us some more information Dave, have they changed owners, gone
|>bankrupt, merged, inquiring minds want to know.
|>

|>2 years ago Doral opened a Dealer on Lake Lanier and I am very impressed
by
|>their quality and their ergonomics (I always wanted to use that word and
|>make it seem like I knew what it meant).
|>
|
|Jim,
|

|Who's the Doral dealer on Lanier? I don't remember seeing any at the
|show this year.....
|
|Thanks,
|
|
|-Ed G

RBStern

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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>2 years ago Doral opened a Dealer on Lake Lanier and I am very impressed by
>their quality and their ergonomics (I always wanted to use that word and
>make it seem like I knew what it meant).
>

Jim, have you seen the Doral 360 on B-dock? Nothing short of awesome. It is a

Rick

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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Phoenix wrote in message <7cs0gn$hns$1...@camel29.mindspring.com>...

>Well give us some more information Dave, have they changed owners, gone
>bankrupt, merged, inquiring minds want to know.
>
>2 years ago Doral opened a Dealer on Lake Lanier and I am very impressed by
>their quality and their ergonomics (I always wanted to use that word and
>make it seem like I knew what it meant).
>


I have an article somewhere , I'll see if I can find it and post a little
history on Doral, but if memory serves me correct they were taken over by
Cadorette and then Thundercraft, or both at the same time, can't recall. I
know when I bought my Citation it was after flying to Toronto to take in the
in water boat show in Sept. 88. In the 26' range the Citation was by far the
nicest boat there. The interior is just outstanding, the quality of material
is first rate. I was very disappointed to see the new style come out in
1990. The 30' Prestancia is simply IMO one of the nicest boats on the water.
As Dave pointed out, twin V/6 engines, an interior that was to die for and
alas a price that was out of my range.

Rick

>
>
>--
>--
>Jim
>
>"There is one God, but which one is He?
>
>Dave Brown wrote in message <36F0DA07...@brownsmarina.on.ca>...
>|Larry Weiss wrote:
>|
>|> I heard some stories about Doral having financial problems, or changing
>ownership
>|> or something. Anyone know anything about this, or are they just
stories?
>|
>|Like most manufacturers in the last 10 years, yes. :-)
>|

Ed

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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:00:22 -0500, "Phoenix"
<jga...@mindspring.comDeleteThis> wrote:

>Well give us some more information Dave, have they changed owners, gone
>bankrupt, merged, inquiring minds want to know.
>
>2 years ago Doral opened a Dealer on Lake Lanier and I am very impressed by
>their quality and their ergonomics (I always wanted to use that word and
>make it seem like I knew what it meant).
>

Jim,

Rick

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Rick wrote in message ...

>
>Phoenix wrote in message <7cs0gn$hns$1...@camel29.mindspring.com>...
>>Well give us some more information Dave, have they changed owners, gone
>>bankrupt, merged, inquiring minds want to know.
>>
>>2 years ago Doral opened a Dealer on Lake Lanier and I am very impressed
by
>>their quality and their ergonomics (I always wanted to use that word and
>>make it seem like I knew what it meant).
>>
>
>
>I have an article somewhere , I'll see if I can find it and post a little
>history on Doral, but if memory serves me correct they were taken over by
>Cadorette and then Thundercraft, or both at the same time, can't recall. I
>know when I bought my Citation it was after flying to Toronto to take in
the
>in water boat show in Sept. 88. In the 26' range the Citation was by far
the
>nicest boat there. The interior is just outstanding, the quality of
material
>is first rate. I was very disappointed to see the new style come out in
>1990. The 30' Prestancia is simply IMO one of the nicest boats on the
water.
>As Dave pointed out, twin V/6 engines, an interior that was to die for and
>alas a price that was out of my range.
>
>Rick
>
>>
>>
>>--
I can't find the article I was looking for however going from memory I
believe the company (Doral) ran into financial trouble in 1989. They were
either taken over or merged with Cadorette boats in late 89, early 90. In
1991 Cadorette purchased the assests of Thundercraft Marine and now
manufactured all three lines. I'm not sure at this point if Cadorette still
owns the companies or if someone else is now involved.

Rick

Kinja_Mon

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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In article <36F119E9...@ix.netcom.com>,

Larry Weiss <lil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> I heard some stories about Doral having financial problems, or changing
ownership
> or something. Anyone know anything about this, or are they just stories?
>
> Larry Weiss
> ",,,Ever After!"
>
> TLK419 wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any first hand information on this brand. We've been
looking
> > at the Chris Craft 30' and the Doral 30'. From what we've read, the Doral
has
> > a pretty good reputation. We know Chris Craft it a good boat (have one now),
> > but we feel like we're getting more for our money with the Doral because it
is
> > not a well known boat like the Chris Craft.
> >
> > We appreciate any information.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Taylor
>
>

Okay, here what I know and have heard about Doral. I first fell in love with
their boats in 1990. The 23 they had back then was the most well thought out
boat I had ever seen! You could tell the people that designed it actually
liked boats and boating. Of course at that time I could not afford it. In
95 Doral changed owners. I have heard that the government of Quebec is
somehow involved, probably through tax credits, etc. I don't know whether
that is true or not I overheard it at the N.Y. show. My wife and I spent 3
years looking for the next boat. We looked at new and used. We wanted to go
up to 28-30ft. We looked at them all and tore them all apart. We also
considered what we could afford in all this. Our 99 Doral 300sc is due to be
delivered April 22nd. We both fell in love with the room and accesability of
the boat. Every time I looked for the means to get at something that needed
servicing it was easy to find and get at. Everytime she looked at where
something could be stowed a spot was found. To me it seems that they are
still being designed and built people who enjoy boating themselves. The
construction IMHO is on a par with other major builders, such as Sea-Ray,
Chapperal, Rinker, etc. I have been in contact via e-mail with a few Doral
owners. None has had a harsh word to say about their boat. The complaints
they have had are all about small items such as hinges and handles breaking
after 3+ years. Hulls and engines are holding up well. From what has been
said to me all of these things have been fixed under the warranty. My
experiance with the dealer and the factory has been very good. I wanted a
fresh water flushing head. Since I boat in salt water that requires an extra
fresh water tank for flushing water. The factory had no problem adding that
at a very reasonable cost. They told me they could not install the vacuflush
in the 300 and explained why. All though they could install it, it would be
out of the parameters set by the head manufacturer and they could not
garauntee it working well over a long period of time. I appreciatted their
honesty. How many dealers or factorys would have just put it in and left the
owner to figure out why it stopped working 3 years later? All and all I
would say the Dorals are a good product at a fair price. And yes that 36 is a
gorgeous boat. Maybe in another 10 years. <G>

Kinja_Mon

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ThreeXM

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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So....why does the Vacuflush stop working after 3 years?

BTW: I did take note of a brand new Doral last year mainly because she listed
severely while at dock. You may want to do the water test prior to completing your
new purchase.

Phoenix

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3X,
Did you ask why the boat listed so severely?

Sounds like someone installed something heavy and didn't balance the boat
when they did it.

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Jim

I am correct, the rest of you are wrong!

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ThreeXM

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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No Phoenix, I didn't want to embarrass the owner knowing that perhaps he was
unaware that his boat was listing so badly.

Again...why does the Vacuflush fail after 3 years?

Phoenix

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I have no idea, it must have been someone else who discussed the vacuflush.

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We are born crying, live complaining, die disappointed

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Kinja_Mon

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In article <36F2E4CB...@mediaone.net>,

ThreeXM <thr...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> So....why does the Vacuflush stop working after 3 years?
>
> BTW: I did take note of a brand new Doral last year mainly because she listed
> severely while at dock. You may want to do the water test prior to completing
your
> new purchase.
>
>

Hi Three, I did not say that the vacuflush failed. What I did say is that
the possibility would exist of it failing since the installation would be out
of spec. As to the list, was it to Stbd or port? If to stbd the owner has
AC installed and no genset to counter it. The AC is installed to stbd and
the genset to port. I am getting niether ac or genset. If the list was
particularly bad it could be something else. The worst i have seen in a 1 or
2 degree list due to equipment or loading. I have all ready water tested a
demo on a nasty day and found the boat to be well mannered in a 3-4ft chop.
I will be water testing mine before any paper are signed. By the way if I
saw a boat in my marina listing badly I would notify the owner or the marina
operator if the owner wasn't around as the boat might have developed a
problem and be on the verge of sinking.

Kinja

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