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hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 12:51:56 AM8/6/08
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I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
a few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrailerboat.jpg


Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
volume product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.

Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 2:08:52 AM8/6/08
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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks like a
big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.

The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. It might look
better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. Some larger boats, like
a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. IMO, the Parker
just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.

Maybe it's just the picture, sitting on the trailer with the tow vehicle
shown in relationship to the boat/engines setup.
It almost looks fake.

Eisboch


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. LLC

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Aug 6, 2008, 5:51:27 AM8/6/08
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Eisboch wrote:
.
>
> Maybe it's just the picture, sitting on the trailer with the tow vehicle
> shown in relationship to the boat/engines setup.
> It almost looks fake.
>
> Eisboch

That was my impression when i looked at it.

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 6:26:09 AM8/6/08
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One either likes the way Parkers look...or one doesn't. If I were in the
market for a boat like that, I wouldn't buy one with twin outboards, but
not because of how it looks. On the other hand, these days I wouldn't
buy an inboard without a serious keel.

Hey. it's not a bubble boat, that's for sure. :>)

Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 6:28:03 AM8/6/08
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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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That's for sure. About it's only saving grace.

Eisboch


hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 6:41:10 AM8/6/08
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Forgot...here's another shot.

Form follows function, hey?

The bracket is "deeper" than what you have been used to seeing because
these engines are "taller" when tipped up.

You apparently like the "eurostyle" transoms on Yellowfins and suchlike.
I don't...they intrude on the space available in the cockpit. In fact,
with engines of this size, they steal 3' of cockpit space, so the 34'
Yellowfin, if there is one, is only a 31-footer. The Parker is a
34-footer from the transom (excluding the bracker) to the bow (excluding
the pulpit).

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrailerboat2.jpg


SW Tom won't like this boat, either. No metalflake. It's a white boat,
the color God intended for fiberglass. :>)

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 6:44:19 AM8/6/08
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I crawled down into the cabin and then the sleeping area of a 34' bubble
boat recently, a fancy boat brand, too. I felt like I was "underground,"
in a cave. What awful excuses for boats. Look like floating travel
trailers.

Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 6:52:31 AM8/6/08
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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Nope, he probably wouldn't. This is his style ..... 56 mph with twin 275's
..... 67 mph with triples.

Also availiable in colors other than white.

http://tinyurl.com/5bvkj4

Eisboch


hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:10:42 AM8/6/08
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To each his own, but it's hard to imagine spending the money on a boat
like that Yellowfin and not getting a decent cabin. Crawling down into
that center console to find the head (I assume there is one down there)
is...well...claustrophobic. Also, for a boat that size, the cockpit area
abaft of the center console is minimal. And of course, you are losing
two or three feet of boat length to that silly eurotransom.

Must be a popular boat in Florida, though, hey? Is there a low-class
metalflake "tom special" color available? :>)

Nice boats, though...but in a boat that size, I'd want some creature
comforts...and air conditioning.


Tim

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:11:22 AM8/6/08
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On Aug 5, 11:51 pm, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
> a few lurkers who are.
>
> This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
> has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>
> http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrail...

>
> Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
> and does about 55 mph at WOT.
>
> I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
> volume product.
>
> The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
> still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
> the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
> there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
> Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
> a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
> That's what is easily visible.
>
> The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.
>
> Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.

harry, that boat looks like a tug sitting on the back of that trailer,
and the outboards are huge comapred to the truck -tractor itself.

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:14:56 AM8/6/08
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Yep...those V8 outboards are enormous, no doubt about it.

JimH

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:16:31 AM8/6/08
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On Aug 6, 5:51 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. LLC"

I see you changed your handle again Reggie. Afraid that John may
report how many posts you are making every month?

BTW: Do you ever get out of the house and away from your computer?

Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:18:17 AM8/6/08
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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>>
>
> To each his own, but it's hard to imagine spending the money on a boat
> like that Yellowfin and not getting a decent cabin. Crawling down into
> that center console to find the head (I assume there is one down there)
> is...well...claustrophobic. Also, for a boat that size, the cockpit area
> abaft of the center console is minimal. And of course, you are losing two
> or three feet of boat length to that silly eurotransom.
>
> Must be a popular boat in Florida, though, hey? Is there a low-class
> metalflake "tom special" color available? :>)
>
> Nice boats, though...but in a boat that size, I'd want some creature
> comforts...and air conditioning.
>
>


Well, of course. The Yellowfin is for offshore fishing day trips. I've
been out on Buzzard's Bay doing over 60 mph in one and was very impressed
with the ride and handling. However, although I like it's design and
construction, I have no use for one for my boating interests.

The Parker is a well built boat, but for me, I would have no use for it
either. Same for a bubble boat, although for some, they are functional from
the standpoint of lots of inside space for it's length. Good for people
with families (kids) who boat together and want to spend weekends or
vacations on the water.

It's all about different strokes for different folks.

Eisboch


Jim

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:32:10 AM8/6/08
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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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You mean monkey puke yellow, don't you? And if you value your cockpit space
so much, why did you muck yours up with that Wal-Mart special, one size fits
all, surrey top?
See photo>>>> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=213n5l1&s=4

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:33:07 AM8/6/08
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My guess is that "reggie," the ranking e-coward of rec.boats, does this
so his posts will "get through" to those who have filtered him out. The
poor little schitt doesn't know that that game doesn't work anymore,
since he can easily be filtered out a half-dozen different ways.

JimH

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:35:21 AM8/6/08
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On Aug 6, 7:32 am, "Jim" <j...@boatnet.net> wrote:
> "hk" <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote in message

>
> news:1vOdnW9jyI9e4gTV...@comcast.com...
>
>
>
> > hk wrote:
> >> Eisboch wrote:
> >>> "hk" <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote in message

> >>>news:v9OdnTlvVqN1sATV...@comcast.com...
> >>>> I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
> >>>> a few lurkers who are.
>
> >>>> This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
> >>>> has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>
> >>>>http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrail...
> >http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrail...

>
> > SW Tom won't like this boat, either. No metalflake.  It's a white boat,
> > the color God intended for fiberglass. :>)
>
> You mean monkey puke yellow, don't you? And if you value your cockpit space
> so much, why did you muck yours up with that Wal-Mart special, one size fits
> all, surrey top?
> See photo>>>>  http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=213n5l1&s=4

That remark wasn't civil, troll.

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:36:11 AM8/6/08
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I suppose, though the idea of spending a weekend in a bubble boat
coffin is appalling.

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:48:14 AM8/6/08
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On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:51:56 -0400, hk <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote:

>I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
>a few lurkers who are.
>
>This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
>has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>
>http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrailerboat.jpg
>
>Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
>and does about 55 mph at WOT.
>
>I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
>volume product.

I would agree with you - small commercial operators probably, maybe
even the small head boat industry.

>The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
>still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
>the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
>there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
>Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
>a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
>That's what is easily visible.
>
>The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

It's a stretch Parker - you know, a Parker is a Parker is a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boat_lineup/boat_detail.jsp?boatid=18

Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
bracket - that's pretty interesting.

Have they released the specs on it yet?

Jim

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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> I suppose, though the idea of spending a weekend in a bubble boat coffin
> is appalling.

Jim H .... Harry is poking fun of your boat again.

Jim

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OOps. Now Harry is going to see it.

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:54:04 AM8/6/08
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 02:08:52 -0400, "Eisboch" <not...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

What struck me was how unbalanced the boat looks on dry land - all
that cabin up front, huge stern deck and then the engines. It just
looks unbalanced. I'm sure it's a sound boat - Parker doesn't build
junk boats - it just looks odd.

Yeah, odd is a much better word.

Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 7:51:21 AM8/6/08
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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>


> Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
> bracket - that's pretty interesting.


They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive extensions
to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines.

Eisboch


Short Wave Sportfishing

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:02:41 AM8/6/08
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>One either likes the way Parkers look...or one doesn't.

That's very true.

I've been on the 23 T Big Bay boat that Parker makes - rugged, tough,
no nonsense fishing boat - it's impressive and I like the way it
looks. The 2100 is a nice boat for it's size too.

If only they would change the color. That off white just doesn't do
it for me. :>)

>Hey. it's not a bubble boat, that's for sure. :>)

Depends on your definition of bubble boat. All that cabin up from
with that hot house cabin (which is something I've never understood -
every cabin Parker I've been on is hot as hell inside and you have to
keep the boat moving to get any ventilation) it might as well be a
bubble boat even if it doesn't look like a classic bubble boat.

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:03:46 AM8/6/08
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There are plenty of photos available, and a partial list of standard
equipment/options, but I haven't seen a "spec" sheet yet. The boat is
now "in production," so I am sure the numbers will be available soon.
I do know the boat slightly outperforms the Grady 33' express in terms
of top end and mpg's.

I was at my local dealer's on Monday on another matter, and found out
about when a new 34-footer will be there. Got myself on the demo ride
list...guessing sometime in September.

I like the term "stretch" Parker. I'll pass that one along!

You know, or maybe you don't know, most Parker buyers are "repeat"
customers, so it was inevitable the new boat would have a strong family
resemblance to the existing pilothouse boats. Evolution is what Parker
owners want, not revolution.

Eisboch

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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>
> What struck me was how unbalanced the boat looks on dry land - all
> that cabin up front, huge stern deck and then the engines. It just
> looks unbalanced. I'm sure it's a sound boat - Parker doesn't build
> junk boats - it just looks odd.
>
> Yeah, odd is a much better word.


It does, but then again, in all fairness, boats look a lot different *in*
the water than they do on the hard or on a hauler.

They also shrink.

Eisboch


hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:10:23 AM8/6/08
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The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot
Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add
buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is
NOT a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in
fact, the bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty
stainless steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat
portion. At least it was on my Parker. Therefore, there are no "massive
extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of the engines."

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:16:31 AM8/6/08
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It's just a bit bigger than you are used to seeing in that size boat.

Put it another way...if I removed the center console from my Parker, I
believe your Ranger would fit inside and you wouldn't see your boat's
gunnels, and our boats are about the same length.

These are pilothouse style boats, and very traditional in proportions.
The cockpit is huge so as to accommodate the largest possible number of
fishermen. You obviously prefer a different style. I've always liked
workboat type boats.

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:20:18 AM8/6/08
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Interesting. When I owned one, I'd go into the main cabin in the hot
summer to get away from the heat. It was much cooler inside the cabin
with the opening front and side glass.

White, as you know, reflects heat.

Hey...these are fiberglass boats, white as God intended such boats to be.

The Big Bay, btw, is a mod-vee hull, and isn't as deep in the cockpit
(or the bottom) as the deep vees.

That 23' hull is now available as a work boat, with absolutely nothing
on the interior deck. No console, no rigging, no nothing. There's a 21'
version now, too. Workboat market.

Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:21:09 AM8/6/08
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Well, in my humble, unqualified opinion .... there "should" be.

Although, I suppose the idea might be that if the boat is subjected to a
heavy pounding, it's better to let the bracket snap off along with the
engines, rather than compromise hull integrity by damaging the stringers.

Eisboch

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:29:33 AM8/6/08
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The bracket isn't going to "snap off." These boats are built like tanks.

Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:27:06 AM8/6/08
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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>
> You know, or maybe you don't know, most Parker buyers are "repeat"
> customers, so it was inevitable the new boat would have a strong family
> resemblance to the existing pilothouse boats. Evolution is what Parker
> owners want, not revolution.

Ya, but, even Henry Ford was wise enough to eventually update the design of
the model T.

Just kidding. I like traditional designs, even if I don't particularly
care for them.

Eisboch


Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:35:08 AM8/6/08
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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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No. But, that's *still* over 1600 lbs cantilevered out quite a ways and held
on by bolts. Imagine the forces in heavy seas.

I'm sure it's fine and well engineered. I hope.

Eisboch

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:42:43 AM8/6/08
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:59:59 -0400, "Eisboch" <not...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

Good points.

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:45:59 AM8/6/08
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You really have to "fish" one of these boats in choppy salt water to
appreciate them fully. They're heavy enough for their length to be able
to move faster in reasonable comfort than lighter boats the same length,
the hardware is all heavy duty, attached with proper backup plates, the
hull is three piece, whatever you need the boat to supply for good
fishing is there and properly designed, and, if you want, you can order
the center console models without those damned vee seats at the bow. If
you are a sometime fly fisherman as I am, having a nice, uncluttered
area between the center console and the bow is a great help. But what I
think I like best about the boats is that they are manufactured in a
family business, and when I call with questions, I get a family member
on the phone who handles customer service the way it is supposed to be
handled. The few issues I have had with my Parker boats have been
handled by a member of the Parker family and my dealer, without anything
more than questions or requests from me.

Loogy...@gmail.com

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:52:59 AM8/6/08
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On Aug 6, 12:51 am, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
> a few lurkers who are.
>
> This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
> has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>
> http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrail...

>
> Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
> and does about 55 mph at WOT.
>
> I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
> volume product.
>
> The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
> still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
> the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
> there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
> Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
> a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
> That's what is easily visible.
>
> The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.
>
> Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.

I thought you tried to get people here to believe you are quite the
accomplished photographer?
There is so much wrong with that picture that I don't know where to
begin.

Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:52:57 AM8/6/08
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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> But what I think I like best about the boats is that they are manufactured
> in a family business, and when I call with questions, I get a family
> member on the phone who handles customer service the way it is supposed to
> be handled. The few issues I have had with my Parker boats have been
> handled by a member of the Parker family and my dealer, without anything
> more than questions or requests from me.
>


Well, of course! The Parker family has to have a marketing strategy to
compensate for an old, outdated , fugly boat design. So, wisely, they do it
with a smile and a pat on the ass.

Harry, I am just busting them on you. It's fun to watch you get so
defensive about your favorite boat manufacturer.
Parkers are fine boats and built well.

Eisboch


Eisboch

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:54:27 AM8/6/08
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-----------------------------

You missed the "factory supplied photo" part of his post.

Eisboch


hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 9:01:58 AM8/6/08
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Maybe I'll go buy a Bayliner. :>)

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 9:05:23 AM8/6/08
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Crikey...look at all the fun I am missing by filtering out Loogy and the
rest of the SevenLittleSchitts. :>)

justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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Aug 6, 2008, 9:28:39 AM8/6/08
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On Aug 6, 9:05 am, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> Eisboch wrote:
> > <LoogyPic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> rest of the SevenLittleSchitts.   :>)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You don't filter anybody, you answered me directly yesterday. Stll
have to wonder about the couple of posters playing with you and thus
encouraging the vial filth that you spew over our group and our
families.. Kind of like watching your neighbor get robbed and doing
nothing because you have an alarm system and know it wont happen to
you.

hk

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Aug 6, 2008, 9:41:16 AM8/6/08
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I don't filter *you,* even though you have attained full membership in
the SevenLittleSchitts as first alternate. I do read a few of your
posts, because I find you a really bizarre fellow and as I have stated
previously, I like to observe the behavior (from a distance) of deviants.

My favorite deviant around here is Larry, of course, but Larry's
bizarreness, as it were, is part of his really funny personality, plus
Larry is very smart and knowledgeable on any number of interesting
subjects, and I don't think he has a mean bone in his body. I've had my
disagreements with Larry over the years, but I really like him, and if I
ever get to Charleston again, I plan to look him up. We could get into a
hell of a lot of trouble together.

You and your fellow SevenLittleSchitts, on the other hand, don't seem
very bright, and I've never noticed that any of you seem to know much
about anything. Your boy Reggie is a coward and your other boy Loogie is
no brighter than a 2x4. The rest of the SevenLittleSchitts add up to a
cipher.

Let me put it in terms even you might understand. If I were to travel
through space, I'd take my towel and Larry, because I think he could
make just about anything work properly, or at least blow it up in
colorful fashion.

I don't think you could build a sawhorse.

justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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Aug 6, 2008, 9:59:06 AM8/6/08
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On Aug 6, 9:41 am, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
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A five paragraph troll. All you have over me is vocabulary and a lack
of integrity.

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justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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On Aug 6, 10:02 am, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 06:59:06 -0700 (PDT),
> He also knows how to make you respond and dance to his tune. he knows
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Talk to me when you come out from under your desk...

hk

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Why don't you direct that remark at your fellow travelers who hide their
identities here? You know...your fellow LittleSchitts: Reggie, Loogy, et
cetera?

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On Aug 6, 10:18 am, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:06:01 -0700 (PDT),
> Whatever that means. Meanwhile, I don't need to do anything. You HAVE
> to respond to me, just like you HAVE to respond to Harry. You are a
> weakling. Dance, little shitster, DANCE!- Hide quoted text -
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On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:10:23 -0400, hk <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote:

>Eisboch wrote:
>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>> news:fd3j94pn2jtjnco4r...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>> Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
>>> bracket - that's pretty interesting.
>>
>>
>> They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive extensions
>> to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines.
>

>The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot
>Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add
>buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is
>NOT a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in
>fact, the bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty
>stainless steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat
>portion. At least it was on my Parker. Therefore, there are no "massive
>extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of the engines."

It could be, but I'd suspect that Eisboch is right - it almost has to
be attached directly to the stringers. There's a lot of leverage on
that stern for it not to be supported by the hull stringers.

There is no real way to tell from the images, but I do like the
concept of extending the hull form to the bracket. One of the
complaints I've always had about outboard brackets similar to the ones
on the Vector series Hydra-Sports is that they tend to bury the engine
on take off and coming off plane. Even playing with the trim doesn't
help any.

Extra buoyancy under the bracket is a good thing - interesting
application.

Loogy...@gmail.com

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On Aug 6, 8:54 am, "Eisboch" <noth...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> <LoogyPic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Nah, I didn't miss it, Harry has lauded his Photoshop abilities right
along side his photographic abilities. I've not seen a thing from him
ever that would lead one to believe he has skills in either. I have
seen things from him that would lead one to believe he DOESN'T have
the skills he claims though, such as crappy badly lit posed pictures
and pictures he's posted as his own that actually were hijacked from a
pro's site.

Loogy...@gmail.com

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He's nothing but a lying low life. He proves it here daily.

Short Wave Sportfishing

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True enough.

>Put it another way...if I removed the center console from my Parker, I
>believe your Ranger would fit inside and you wouldn't see your boat's
>gunnels, and our boats are about the same length.

Nope - they would match up pretty well - the only thing your boat that
makes it different is that it's a little longer than mine while mine
is marginally wider (8'8" vs 8'6") and your sides may be slightly
taller from the chine to the top of the gunwale.

Here's an interesting exercise for us to try - measure from the keel
to the highest point of the gunwale, measure the broadest points
gunwale-to-gunwale, and the overall length. Use the following formula
- Length times breadth (side-to-side at it's broadest point) times
depth (keel to highest point on gunwale) times .67 and divide that by
100.

I'll bet your GT and mine are within 5% of each other.

>These are pilothouse style boats, and very traditional in proportions.
>The cockpit is huge so as to accommodate the largest possible number of
>fishermen. You obviously prefer a different style. I've always liked
>workboat type boats.

Totally agree with that. As Eisboch says, to each their own.

From guys I've talked to, Parkers have their following - which is cool
- every guy has their favorite (or dream) boat. I know guys who only
buy Grady's and wouldn't consider any other boat. Same with a ton of
other vessels. And Parker does build a quality boat - over and over
and over again which is my main complaint - there are marginal
differences from year-to-year - the styling just hasn't been updated.

Consider the venerable Novi hull as an example - the base style and
function stays the same, but there are differences depending on the
manufacturer. You can look at a classic Novi hull and say, yep -
that's a Novi hull, but you can tell differences between hulls by how
long the forefoot is, the tumblehome at the stern - bow flare, etc.
That's a proven hull design which has been adapted and changed mainly
for style reasons - the base hull design has never changed. I've seen
different year Parkers and they all look the same - no changes.

I just don't like static designs, but it works for you and that's
great.


Short Wave Sportfishing

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Of course they aren't - it's a mod V just like mine. Different type
of boat entirely.

>That 23' hull is now available as a work boat, with absolutely nothing
>on the interior deck. No console, no rigging, no nothing. There's a 21'
>version now, too. Workboat market.

Parker's aren't white. Or what I consider white. :>)

justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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> pro's site.- Hide quoted text -

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Wafa's skills are propaganda. He made his way on the sweat of the
rednecks he puts down so often, good hard working folks.. He really
has never shown any skills in any field here that I can remember and I
have been reading this list a long time. The one redeeming quality he
has is he can interpret and rewrite what he googles to make it look
like he knows what he is talking about.

I am working again on my reader. My filters will include wafa, salty,
jimh, and kanter for starters. I respect loyalty and decency so my
list will also include anyone who can hold their nose and play with
them too....

Jim

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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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What I like about Larry is that he is the genuine article. WYSIWYG. You two
are polar opposites. Larry was a pleasure to meet. I'd want to put on a
contamination suit before I'd get within 50 feet of you.

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Neither are "white people."

hk

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There are several manufacturers of brackets with flotation chambers.
Parker uses two of them that I know of to produce its custom designs.

hk

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>>snerk<<

Don't forget to filter out the cowardly "anonymous" posters here.

hk

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sa...@dog.com wrote:
> I can hardly wait! Once you have me filtered, I won't have to see your
> weak-willed responses to my posts about you. You'll be even more
> defenseless ...if that's possible.
>
> I don't think you have the guts to filter me out. Lets just see, shall
> we?
>
>


Gosh, if JustWait filters us out, he'll be reduced to exchanging
badinage with the likes of Loogy, Florida Jim, and the rest of the low
IQ'ers.

Loogy...@gmail.com

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On Aug 6, 11:02 am, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:16:31 -0400, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> >Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> >> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 02:08:52 -0400, "Eisboch" <noth...@nowhere.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> "hk" <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote in message

> >>>news:v9OdnTlvVqN1sATV...@comcast.com...
> >>>> I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a
> >>>> few lurkers who are.
>
> >>>> This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has
> >>>> just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>
> >>>>http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrail...
> great.- Hide quoted text -

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Everything about Harry is "static". One look at him will tell you
that.

Jim

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"hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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anonymous like Harry Krause? Did you pick that name out of the phone book?

Vic Smith

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On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:41:10 -0400, hk <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote:


>
>http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrailerboat2.jpg
>
>
>SW Tom won't like this boat, either. No metalflake. It's a white boat,
>the color God intended for fiberglass. :>)

Looks real "American" with that picket fence on the roof.
Is there a garden behind there?
(-:

--Vic

Calif Bill

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:51:56 -0400, hk <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>>I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
>>a few lurkers who are.
>>
>>This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
>>has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>>
>>http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrailerboat.jpg

>>
>>Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
>>and does about 55 mph at WOT.
>>
>>I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
>>volume product.
>
> I would agree with you - small commercial operators probably, maybe
> even the small head boat industry.

>
>>The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
>>still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
>>the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
>>there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
>>Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
>>a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
>>That's what is easily visible.
>>
>>The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.
>
> It's a stretch Parker - you know, a Parker is a Parker is a Parker.
>
> http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boat_lineup/boat_detail.jsp?boatid=18

>
> Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
> bracket - that's pretty interesting.
>
> Have they released the specs on it yet?

I see very little market for it, except for someone with gobs of disposable
income. No head boat is going to go for it at the price of gas and the
consumption that monster must use. Most of the commercial people using
large jet boats for packing in to hunting camps or tours all all going to
diesel. 1/2 the fuel consumption for the same performance. And an outboard
34' boat. How are you going to fish around those motors? Besides that
faded white that Parker uses looks like what you try to get rid of from the
clothes with all those washing products you see on TV.


Short Wave Sportfishing

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When I talked to Robin, she said Parker didn't do custom designs and
wouldn't do one even with a bonus.

When did that change?

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Well, it may be that way on the Left Coast, but there are a lot of
smaller head boat operators on the Right Coast that use boats of this
size with outboards as head boats - max twelve or so,normally six to
eight paying heads for cod and striper fishing.

Russians seem to be big purchasers of these style boats with outboards
up in my area.

Jim

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"Calif Bill" <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Someone called the color monkey vomit. I think Krause is pimping for Mother
Parker. How else would you explain him starting a dozen threads on a go
nowhere do nothing ho hum boat with lines drawn in the 60s. That mistake is
going to end up in the Parker family stable of unmarketable ho hum boats.

Tim

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On Aug 6, 7:29 am, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:

> Eisboch wrote:
> > "hk" <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> >news:AtKdnScEecIxCQTV...@comcast.com...

> >> Eisboch wrote:
> >>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:fd3j94pn2jtjnco4r...@4ax.com...
>
> >>>> Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
> >>>> bracket - that's pretty interesting.
>
> >>> They had to.  I was studying that also.  It needs those massive
> >>> extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of thoseengines.
>
> >>> Eisboch

> >> The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot
> >>Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add
> >> buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is NOT
> >> a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in fact, the
> >> bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty stainless
> >> steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat portion. At least
> >> it was on myParker. Therefore, there are no "massive extensions to the

> >> main stringers to support the weight of theengines."
>
> > Well, in my humble, unqualified opinion .... there "should" be.
>
> > Although, I suppose the idea might be that if the boat is subjected to a
> > heavy pounding, it's better to let the bracket snap off along with the
> >engines, rather than compromise hull integrity by damaging the stringers.
>
> > Eisboch
>
> The bracket isn't going to "snap off." These boats are built like tanks.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Monster tub, massive stringers, goliath-like brackets, giant
outboards, forward cabin, Hey! Parker might have gotten their ideas
from here!

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/karen.html

Short Wave Sportfishing

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On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:14:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tsch...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 6, 7:29 am, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>> Eisboch wrote:
>> > "hk" <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> >news:AtKdnScEecIxCQTV...@comcast.com...
>> >> Eisboch wrote:
>> >>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>> >>>news:fd3j94pn2jtjnco4r...@4ax.com...
>>
>> >>>> Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
>> >>>> bracket - that's pretty interesting.
>>
>> >>> They had to.  I was studying that also.  It needs those massive
>> >>> extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of thoseengines.
>>
>> >>> Eisboch
>> >> The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot
>> >>Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add
>> >> buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is NOT
>> >> a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in fact, the
>> >> bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty stainless
>> >> steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat portion. At least
>> >> it was on myParker. Therefore, there are no "massive extensions to the
>> >> main stringers to support the weight of theengines."
>>
>> > Well, in my humble, unqualified opinion .... there "should" be.
>>
>> > Although, I suppose the idea might be that if the boat is subjected to a
>> > heavy pounding, it's better to let the bracket snap off along with the
>> >engines, rather than compromise hull integrity by damaging the stringers.
>>

>> The bracket isn't going to "snap off." These boats are built like tanks.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Monster tub, massive stringers, goliath-like brackets, giant
>outboards, forward cabin, Hey! Parker might have gotten their ideas
>from here!
>
>http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/karen.html

ROTFL!!!

DK

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Eisboch wrote:
> "hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:1vOdnW9jyI9e4gTV...@comcast.com...
>> hk wrote:

>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>> "hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:v9OdnTlvVqN1sATV...@comcast.com...

>>>>> I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
>>>>> a few lurkers who are.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
>>>>> has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrailerboat.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a
>>>>> 34-footer and does about 55 mph at WOT.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
>>>>> volume product.
>>>>>
>>>>> The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
>>>>> still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
>>>>> the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
>>>>> there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing
>>>>> room.
>>>>> Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics.
>>>>> There's a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove,
>>>>> refrigerator/freezer. That's what is easily visible.
>>>>>
>>>>> The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command
>>>>> console.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.
>>>>
>>>> I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks
>>>> like a big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.
>>>>
>>>> The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. It might look
>>>> better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. Some larger boats,
>>>> like a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
>>>> outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. IMO, the Parker
>>>> just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it's just the picture, sitting on the trailer with the tow vehicle
>>>> shown in relationship to the boat/engines setup.
>>>> It almost looks fake.
>>>>
>>>> Eisboch
>>>>
>>> One either likes the way Parkers look...or one doesn't. If I were in the
>>> market for a boat like that, I wouldn't buy one with twin outboards, but
>>> not because of how it looks. On the other hand, these days I wouldn't buy
>>> an inboard without a serious keel.

>>>
>>> Hey. it's not a bubble boat, that's for sure. :>)
>>
>> Forgot...here's another shot.
>>
>> Form follows function, hey?
>>
>> The bracket is "deeper" than what you have been used to seeing because
>> these engines are "taller" when tipped up.
>>
>> You apparently like the "eurostyle" transoms on Yellowfins and suchlike.
>> I don't...they intrude on the space available in the cockpit. In fact,
>> with engines of this size, they steal 3' of cockpit space, so the 34'
>> Yellowfin, if there is one, is only a 31-footer. The Parker is a 34-footer
>> from the transom (excluding the bracker) to the bow (excluding the
>> pulpit).

>>
>> http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrailerboat2.jpg
>>
>>
>> SW Tom won't like this boat, either. No metalflake. It's a white boat,
>> the color God intended for fiberglass. :>)
>
>
> Nope, he probably wouldn't. This is his style ..... 56 mph with twin 275's
> ...... 67 mph with triples.
>
> Also availiable in colors other than white.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5bvkj4
>
> Eisboch
>
>

There's nothing white about that tan Parker. At least they put a
transom on it.

DK

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Aug 6, 2008, 8:37:10 PM8/6/08
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Jim wrote:
>
> "hk" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:ab6dnaeA7cY6EQTV...@comcast.com...
>> I suppose, though the idea of spending a weekend in a bubble boat
>> coffin is appalling.
>
> Jim H .... Harry is poking fun of your boat again.

He's a large dude so anything short of a concert hall is a "coffin" to WAFA.

DK

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justwaitaf...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Aug 6, 9:05 am, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> <LoogyPic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:3560fec1-8dcd-49ad...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com....

>>> On Aug 6, 12:51 am, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>>> I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
>>>> a few lurkers who are.
>>>> This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
>>>> has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>>>> http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrail....

>>>> Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
>>>> and does about 55 mph at WOT.
>>>> I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
>>>> volume product.
>>>> The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
>>>> still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
>>>> the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
>>>> there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
>>>> Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
>>>> a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer..

>>>> That's what is easily visible.
>>>> The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.
>>>> Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.
>>> I thought you tried to get people here to believe you are quite the
>>> accomplished photographer?
>>> There is so much wrong with that picture that I don't know where to
>>> begin.
>>> -----------------------------
>>> You missed the "factory supplied photo" part of his post.
>>> Eisboch
>> Crikey...look at all the fun I am missing by filtering out Loogy and the
>> rest of the SevenLittleSchitts. :>)- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You don't filter anybody, you answered me directly yesterday. Stll
> have to wonder about the couple of posters playing with you and thus
> encouraging the vial filth that you spew over our group and our
> families.. Kind of like watching your neighbor get robbed and doing
> nothing because you have an alarm system and know it wont happen to
> you.

Well said and "spot on"!

DK

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<crickets>

Loogy...@gmail.com

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On Aug 6, 2:59 pm, "Jim" <j...@boatnet.net> wrote:
> "Calif Bill" <bmckees...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

>
> news:8OSdnS-ZLu2qcQTV...@earthlink.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
> >news:fd3j94pn2jtjnco4r...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:51:56 -0400, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
> >>>I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
> >>>a few lurkers who are.
>
> >>>This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
> >>>has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>
> >>>http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrail...
> going to end up in the Parker family stable of unmarketable ho hum boats.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh, you know how it is, Harry owns one, so they are the best of
everything. Everything Harry has is the best and nothing else in the
known universe is worth owning if Harry doesn't have it.

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