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alex2000
If anyone has any thoughts on what is good/bad about them or how they could
be improved I would like to hear your comments.
Many Thanks
Peter
Mine
tired of buying leather shoes laces and having to dye them to match my
shoes.
d parker
prizes. If I get 6 months out of a pair I am doing well. The current pair of
Sperrys I have are currently 9 months old. Beat that and you'll win me. Send
me a pair I will let you know. No joke there either.
DP
alex2000 wrote in message ...
d parker
at the ankles, but it will keep the toes dry after standing in a shallow
pool of water.
DP
d parker wrote in message
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Russell Eberhardt
<alex...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
Put sufficient carbon in the rubber soles so that they are
electrically conductive and I don't get a shock everytime I get out of
the car!
Russell.
TO REPLY BY EMAIL:
Change nospam in reply address to iee
Christine Sheffield
heel far enough. Also the lacing doesn't come up the top of the foot far
enough towards the leg, so they are too easy to step right out of. I have
to use very long leather laces and put them round behind my ankles and tie
the ends at the front of my ankles to get them to stay on.
I have moccasin-type shoes with very fine wavy cuts in the soles. Apart
from my comments above, these shoes are very comfortable and they grip like
nobody's business!
I do not like soles which are stiff or have a raised pattern - the flatter
the sole the better the grip - especially on wet GRP.
If you can improve on the depth of the shoes and the lacing arrangement. If
you can make ladies shoes which are not too narrow or too pointed or
"girly". If you can make the soles as "grippy" and long-lasting (8 yrs) as
the ones on my current shoes. If you can sell me a pair for under £25
through my local chandler - I am interested!
Christine Sheffield
S/V "Rusalka"
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Al Phillips
1. Make sure the sole is thick enough to absorb shock. I WILL NOT BUY
DECK SHOES WITH SKINNY SOLES.
2. They should stay on your feet when wading in knee deep water.
3. The sides should not come up so high as to rub the ankles. (Not a
problem with most designs.)
Glenn Ashmore
easy to get on but you can slide out of them on any kind of heel and they
constantly require retying.
Most of the shoe manufacturers are offering at least one model built more like an
athletic shoe with fancy molded sole patterns. They stay on your feet but they
don't seem to have the grip of the razor cut soles on fiberglass decks.
I have to confess though that my favorite boating foot wear is the Teva Spinnaker
sandle. Fully adjustable and reasonably good grip. Teva has come a long way
from the cursed deck bkackeners of old.
Al Phillips wrote:
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Glenn Ashmore
I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there
of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Rosalie B.
I personally love the LLBean boat shoes. I have to get men's shoes because
most women's shoes aren't wide enough. They are leather moccasins with
white soles (small flat close together slashed pattern on the bottom), and
I never have trouble with slipping. I don't like to have to lace shoes up.
They do fine even when I wade around in the water. Sometimes they come un
stitched over the big toe joint, and they have to be broken in. When you
first get them they are too tight and pinch, but if you break them in
carefully (without getting blisters), they can be worn without socks.
I like to be able to get them on and off easily. I'd really rather be
barefoot, but my husband won't let me. He has very tender feet.
grandma Rosalie
bad_sneakers
off easily. If you get dumped in the drink you want to be able to
kick them off easily without having to reach down.
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Mayday
Sperry made years ago what I think you are looking for. My wife and I each
bought a couple pair at a close out sale. They had the standard sperry non-skid
sole (flat, no raised pattern). Cut more like an oxford than a moccasin, with a
higher heel and side, with 3 (maybe 4) lace holes bringing it further up the
arch. They were an unfinished leather rather than smooth. The only downside is
they continually when soaked turned your socks orange.
Jim
Christine Sheffield wrote:
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Capt.Mooron
sailing, prissy deck, anal, white pants after May 1st, navy blue jacket and
Capt's hat wearing, got a boat-must be a sailor, pansy!
This whole thread on "Deck Shoes" is a farce! Deck Shoes are an overpriced
unneeded item better regulated to people that spend more time entertaining
on their boats than sailing them.
I imagine your boat at the dock with a set of carpets and a foot bath.
--
Capt. Mooron ©
S.V.Overproof
"Treat your Crew with Disdain.... and other Vessels with Distaste"
"Oz1" <ozsa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> ><alex...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >Put sufficient carbon in the rubber soles so that they are
> >electrically conductive and I don't get a shock everytime I get out of
> >the car!
> >
> >Russell.
> >TO REPLY BY EMAIL:
> >Change nospam in reply address to iee
>
> You wear them in the car, walk thru the carpark them climb onboard?
>
> I, personally, would throw both you and you shoes overboard.
>
> Oz
Hugh Davison
(from experience with the Goretex lining in my Dubarrys).
Hugh
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Buck Frobisher
happy!
--
"Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs."
regards,
Frank Johansen
Aurora, Ontario
Buck Frobisher
it's too much to expect deck shoes in widths!
--
"Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs."
regards,
Frank Johansen
Aurora, Ontario
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> They should come in size 13...
>
>
Buck Frobisher
software.
--
"Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs."
regards,
Frank Johansen
Aurora, Ontario
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Buck Frobisher
years ago).
--
"Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs."
regards,
Frank Johansen
Aurora, Ontario
"Mayday" <may...@floatplan.com> wrote in message
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> Christine,
>
> Sperry made years ago what I think you are looking for. My wife and I
each
> bought a couple pair at a close out sale. They had the standard sperry
non-skid
> sole (flat, no raised pattern). Cut more like an oxford than a moccasin,
with a
> higher heel and side, with 3 (maybe 4) lace holes bringing it further up
the
> arch. They were an unfinished leather rather than smooth. The only
downside is
> they continually when soaked turned your socks orange.
>
> Jim
<snip>
edgar cove
<gmbe...@mindspring.com> writes
> I'd really rather be
>barefoot, but my husband won't let me. He has very tender feet.
>
>grandma Rosalie
Rosalie?
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edgar (remove nospam from return address for e-mail reply)
Rosalie B.
>In article <94dcits82povs4uj2...@4ax.com>, Rosalie B.
><gmbe...@mindspring.com> writes
>> I'd really rather be
>>barefoot, but my husband won't let me. He has very tender feet.
>>
>>grandma Rosalie
>What is the connection between his 'tender' feet and your own needs,
>Rosalie?
Just that he doesn't understand bare feet because he never goes barefoot.
I learned to walk on gravel barefoot when I was a kid. I go barefoot in
the snow (I do draw the line at thorns etc).
I wear shoes on deck because I see the sense of it, but I wear shoes that I
can get off quickly if I have the choice.
grandma Rosalie
Jack Dale
-Removable insoles to speed up drying.
-Drain holes to get water out after a dunking.
-Gum rubber soles.
I am a fan of Harkens. Before they (Saucony) started making much of the shoe
offshore, they were a reasonable price. Now they no longer fit under the
Free Trade Agreement and the duty is brutal.
I recommend that my students use old indoor court shoes (tennis, squash,
volleyball). They work just fine. I know some other instructors who also
use court shoes. I will give old pair of my squash shoes a trail this
summer.
Jack
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d parker
dp
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Glenn Ashmore
Found a pair in London several years ago but Impossible to find here in the US.
They don't last long but have a grab that would make a tree frog jealous.
Jack Dale wrote:
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hkr...@capuantispam.net
>
> I have searched in vain for a pair of razor cut gum soled squash court shoes.
> Found a pair in London several years ago but Impossible to find here in the US.
> They don't last long but have a grab that would make a tree frog jealous.
>
Glenn:
You're one of the few guys who might appreciate this:
When I was a lad, my father, who was a boat dealer and sometime boat builder,
offered a line of highly finished molded ply soft chine runabouts in 14-21'
size ranges. He only built a few a year, usually over the winter when he and
his shop crews had the time and he wanted to keep everyone employed. They were
similar to a manufactured line called "Wolverine," which he also sold.
The front decks on these boats were traditional, with strips of mahogany and
caulking stripes between. The decks had a slight bow...high in the center and
a drop down to the gunnels. Dad had a fellow who was an absolute "master of
varnish" and who would finish the boats in a spray booth and with a brush. The
boats looked as if they were coated in liquid glass. They were more like
furniture than boats.
Most of the boats were sold with fitted canvas mooring covers. Some of the
buyers kept their boats in the water, on buoys or in a slip. The front decks
were so slick and slippery (they weren't meant to walk on...just to cover a
space forward and to look pretty) that no matter how you tried to snap on the
canvas cover, once all your body weight was on the deck, on top of the cover,
it would slip and slide and you and the cover would end up in the
water--unless you had started fastening the cover from the stern. And no one
ever seemed to do that.
I kept my 15-footer on a mooring. If I covered the boat out there, I'd almost
always slide off into Long Island Sound. It was a rite of passage, I suppose.
Nothing is prettier than a wood boat.
--
Harry Krause
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"But I also made it clear to [Vladimir Putin] that it's important to think
beyond the old days of when we had the concept that if we blew each other up,
the world would be safe."Bush 邑ashington, D.C., May 1, 2001
Russell Eberhardt
>You wear them in the car, walk thru the carpark them climb onboard?
Yes.
>I, personally, would throw both you and you shoes overboard.
I'd like to see you try. See
http://www.reberhardt.freeserve.co.uk/aikido/russell.htm :0)
Still, I don't suppose I would want to board your boat anyway.
Regards,
ted...@socrates.berkeley.edu
I had been racing a small keelboat in Gill Neoprene dingy boots. They were
of wetsuit material with a zipper up the side and a plain rippled sole of
white latex. These were great, even though I tended to tear the neoprene
near the sole by snagging it on cleats, etc.
My next boots were Ronstan neoprene boots of similar construction, but
with fancier soles that wrapped up the sides a bit to protect the
neoprene.
I almost died! The soles on the Ronstans were not latex, but fancy 3-color
elastomer plastic. There was not enough traction on a wet foredeck to be
safe. The "aggressive" tread patern did nothing to help the situation.
If the material is wrong, no tread pattern can make the shoes work on a
wet deck. This may be something that does not go down well in a business
dominated by fashion. My next boots will be boring, old-fashioned Gills.
-tc
In article <VRiV6.12069$jd1.7...@monolith.news.easynet.net>,
rda...@hotmail.com
My shoe of choice are Timberlands. They're far more durable (both uppers and
soles) than others I've used.
Jonski
alex2000 wrote:
>I am involoved withn company specilising in producing deck shoes.
>If anyone has any thoughts on what is good/bad about them or how they could
>be improved I would like to hear your comments.
Just a few simple things:
Support- you're often standing on them for hours at a time, at angles
up to 45 degrees
Grip- aforementioned 45 degrees, and on wet, smooth, pitching surfaces
you need all the grip you can get.
Toe protection- kicking a cleat or bollard is no fun.
Quick drying. Salt resistance. Low odour. Non-marking. Easy removal
when you're the MOB, non-easy removal when you're wading in knee-high
water pulling the dinghy ashore. Durability- they should last more
than a season. Laces that stay tied. Non-chafing when loaded with
dried salt. Quick draining, non-squelching. Cool. Light. Flexible.
Cheap. Oh, and they should look good too.
(BTW, deck shoes *will* get wet. If I want dry feet, I'll wear sea
boots!)
Finally, when you invent the perfect deck shoe, export them to NZ.
I'll evaluate them against all the other perfect shoes in the
marketplace, and if they stand out, I'll buy them.
Cheers
Jon (not being very fussy at all!)
=========================
Young 88 "Dynamo" K3883
=========================
Jonski
>I have to confess though that my favorite boating foot wear is the Teva Spinnaker
>sandle. Fully adjustable and reasonably good grip. Teva has come a long way
>from the cursed deck bkackeners of old.
Ditto. Unfortunately, Tiva no longer exports this model to NZ.
Fortunately, I found an end-of-line outlet selling them at 50% of
retail.
Cheers
Jon
Jonski
>Nothing is prettier than a wood boat.
Agreed, with a few exceptions.
However, (with all due respect) the ones your father built sound
rather impractible with paintjobs like that.
The need for beauty shouldn't override the need for safety /
practicality, especially as to a trained eye, form follows function.
David Maslen
>I am involoved withn company specilising in producing deck shoes. If
>anyone has any thoughts on what is good/bad about them or how they
>could be improved I would like to hear your comments.
At the risk of sounding vain. I judge a boat shoe on looks in addition
to function. I agree with the comments about 45 degree angles, and
grip is pretty critical, but I wear my boat shoes in the yacht club
and at home too. They are really quite comfortable, and an extension
of the boating lifestyle which I enjoy.
My choice of shoe, is the Logan boat-shoe. A NZ company. I believe they
are made in China, and they definitely aren't the cheapest shoe by the
time they reach Australia, but I haven't regret the purchase.
As somebody else said, I put on my sea-boots when I want my feat to
stay dry. So often my deck shoes will be worn only until I'm on board!
Meir Riba
2. Non skid sole.
3. Non-skid area wraps up the boot to enable non skidding in various foot
position.
4. Sturdy plastic zipper in ankle high boots, Velcro (as opposed to laces)
for sneakers.
5. Not too expensive.
6. Light colour, non-marking sole.
7. Machine washable.
8. Immune to high power cleaning substances in the unpleasant event of
getting soiled.
--
Meir Riba
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<ted...@socrates.Berkeley.EDU> wrote in message
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Ian Wright
costing over £100 are a fashion item in the same way as other
"sports"footwear is.
For inexpensive boat shoes go for cheap, under £10, Squash shoes. Buy
two or three pairs to stand a chance of finding a dry pair to wear.
Better still, go barefoot. Feet are waterproof and as non-slip as
anything glued to the sole of an over priced moccasin.
For comfort in the cabin get carpet slippers.
I'm very well aware that no one will take this advice but it is
nevertheless good advice and I publish it again as a public duty. You
never know, one day folk might get tired of being conned out of their
cash and wise up a little,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but I doubt it.
Ian Wright, Patience, Vertue 203
Doug Dotson
in Sailing World (is that right? the one that is racing oriented by USSA).
The artical related the fact that the Gill dingy boots were
death traps. It was the ones that laced, not zipped. Short,
ankle high, gray, I think they were Gill. Several racers had
drowned because they would fill with water and drag you
down before you could get them unlaced. Maybe the zippered
version was the solution.
Incidently, my SO and I just bought the new Gill boots which
are breathable GoreTex. A bit pricey but they are THE most
comfortable boat boots I have ever had. Nancy has orthopedic
insoles in hers.
GoreTex: If Al Gore and Bush Lite had been running mates?
Doug
S/V Callista
Doug Dotson
"The Deck Is HOT, HOT, HOT". When I got into sailing my
father taught me three things: "no glass on deck", "no barefeet", and
"sailbot racers are assholes". (Sorry racers but that's what he told
me).
I eventually learned that 1) broken glass is sharp, 2) deck hardware
is hard, and 3) only some sailboat racers are assholes.
Shoes good -- burn't cut feet bad!
Doug
steve thomas
Glenn Ashmore <gash...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Agreed! I cannot stand the two hole boat shoes with leather laces. They
are
> easy to get on but you can slide out of them on any kind of heel and they
> constantly require retying.
>
> Most of the shoe manufacturers are offering at least one model built more
like an
> athletic shoe with fancy molded sole patterns. They stay on your feet
but they
> don't seem to have the grip of the razor cut soles on fiberglass decks.
>
> I have to confess though that my favorite boating foot wear is the Teva
Spinnaker
> sandle. Fully adjustable and reasonably good grip. Teva has come a long
way
> from the cursed deck bkackeners of old.
>
> Al Phillips wrote:
>
> > alex2000 wrote:
> > >
> > > I am involoved withn company specilising in producing deck shoes.
> > >
> > > If anyone has any thoughts on what is good/bad about them or how they
could
> > > be improved I would like to hear your comments.
> >
> > 1. Make sure the sole is thick enough to absorb shock. I WILL NOT BUY
> > DECK SHOES WITH SKINNY SOLES.
> >
> > 2. They should stay on your feet when wading in knee deep water.
> >
> > 3. The sides should not come up so high as to rub the ankles. (Not a
> > problem with most designs.)
Glenn Ashmore
steve thomas wrote:
> Other than "style" why would anyone want leather laces?
I didn't say anybody would WANT them but every pair of Sperry topsiders or
Seabago mocs I ever saw had raw hide leather laces. The ones that run around
the heel and are almost impossible to replace.
MB
wrote:
>Several years ago a friend I used to race with read an article
>in Sailing World (is that right? the one that is racing oriented by USSA).
>The artical related the fact that the Gill dingy boots were
>death traps. It was the ones that laced, not zipped. Short,
>ankle high, gray, I think they were Gill. Several racers had
>drowned because they would fill with water and drag you
>down before you could get them unlaced. Maybe the zippered
>version was the solution.
That's a myth- how can water filled boots drag you under? Water in
boots weighs the same as water outside the boots- net effect no
apparent weight.
I've fallen in the sea several times wearing normal sea boots and can
swim quite happily with them, the only problem which arises is when
you pull yourself out of the water as water filled boots in air are
heavy, but not enough to cause massive problems.
Mine
a pair of cajun reeboks and they work fine on wet slippery surfaces. White
shrimp boots.
rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk
> Better still, go barefoot. Feet are waterproof and as non-slip as
> anything glued to the sole of an over priced moccasin.
Hooray!
> For comfort in the cabin get carpet slippers.
I have sailed with two folks who used carpet slippers 0 one of them also
had an embroidered silk dressing own as well for below-decks...
RH
MB
wrote:
>Forget the deck shoes and do like the commercial fisherman do. Get yourself
>a pair of cajun reeboks and they work fine on wet slippery surfaces. White
>shrimp boots.
I thought shrimps wore pink boots,,,
>
Al Levesque
> .... Several racers had drowned because they would fill with water and drag you
> down before you could get them unlaced. Maybe the zippered
> version was the solution.
Try the float test. Be sure to do both at the same time. Nothing
more useless that the mate to a boot that didn't float. ;)
Al
Rosalie B.
>Ian Wright <i...@vertue.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>> Better still, go barefoot. Feet are waterproof and as non-slip as
>> anything glued to the sole of an over priced moccasin.
>
Actually they are not. My feet slip more on the cabin top than my boat
shoes do, especially if it is a little wet. I was told that the reason
there were so many peg leg sailors was because of foot injuries that became
gangrenous and had to be amputated. It is also virtually impossible (for
me anyway) to keep from hitting hard angular stuff with my foot when the
boat is pitching around.
>
>> For comfort in the cabin get carpet slippers.
>
>I have sailed with two folks who used carpet slippers 0 one of them also
>had an embroidered silk dressing own as well for below-decks...
For comfort in the cabin I go barefoot. If it is really cold I wear
thermal socks. On shore, if the dock is wood I wear shoes because of
splinters (most wood docks seem to be splintery).
grandma Rosalie
ted...@socrates.berkeley.edu
neoprene gives then significant floatation. And because they fit rather
closely, there will not be much extra water to lift back on board.
-tc
In article <3B29FD98...@cove.com>,
Ian Wright
>I have sailed with two folks who used carpet slippers 0 one of them also
>had an embroidered silk dressing own as well for below-decks...
>
>RH
And why not,,,,,,,,?
It ain't hard to be comfortable on a boat and only a damn fool would
put up with discomfort when he needn't.
There are still people sleeping under hairy blankets or in restrictive
sleeping bags when a cotton under sheet and a duvet are SO much more
comfy. Beats me why they do it
Ian Wright, Patience, Vertue 203.
edgar cove
<m...@smb.ac.uk> writes
Capt.Mooron
lbs ( 3lbs in water) fill with water and "drag you down" ?????
Ha-Ha-Ha! I guess that the 35lb lift in the Life Jacket couldn't compensate
for the ballast eh? what utter complete nonsense! To prove another of those
Yacht Club Sailors wrong... I swam the 100 meters to shore wearing my jeans,
and steel toed work boots with no difficulty.
Can't Swim?.... stay the Hell off the water!
--
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S.V.Overproof
"Treat your Crew with Disdain.... and other Vessels with Distaste"
"Doug Dotson" <ddo...@digidata.com> wrote in message
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Don White
Lots of commercial fisherman up here don't swim and do just fine.....
Capt.Mooron wrote:
>
> Can't Swim?.... stay the Hell off the water!
>
> --
> Capt. Mooron ©
Ian Wright
>>Ian Wright <i...@vertue.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>>> Better still, go barefoot. Feet are waterproof and as non-slip as
>>> anything glued to the sole of an over priced moccasin.
>>
>Actually they are not. My feet slip more on the cabin top than my boat
>shoes do, especially if it is a little wet.
Well, OK. Different folk and different ships,,,,,,,
Barefoot on deck works for me, as long as it's not too cold, I have
teak decks and good non-slip deck paint on the cabin top. In addition
to which the working area round the mast is well provided with 1/2
inch X 1/4 inch teak strips which help a lot. I don't stub my toes
'cos I know where everything is,,,,, and use the otherwise stubbable
objects as places to brace against, so I get by fine.
However, in years past I had a pair of Dubarry deck boots, a Xmas
gift, and they were wonderful. As comfortable as any deck shoe,
genuinely waterproof until the water crept over the top, and good
non-slip soles. I didn't replace them when they wore out 'cos I didn't
want to spend £150.
Deck shoes at any price are imo a waste of time here in the UK, they
just ensure that wet feet stay wet at great expense.
,,,,,,, but I still stand by carpet slippers down below, sheer
bliss,,,,,,,!
Keith Wood
Ian Wright wrote:
> Deck shoes at any price are imo a waste of time here in the UK, they
> just ensure that wet feet stay wet at great expense.
You can say the same thing about the bonnet on any Brit roadster.
;)
Ian Wright
> wet feet stay wet at great expense.
>
>You can say the same thing about the bonnet on any Brit roadster.
>
>;)
You could,,,,,,,,, if bonnet meant soft top and not hood,,,,,,, and
by roadster I assume you mean open sports car,,,,,?
IanW.
Keith Wood
Ian Wright wrote:
>
> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:16:09 +0000, Keith Wood <k...@bctv.com> wrote:
>
> > wet feet stay wet at great expense.
> >
> >You can say the same thing about the bonnet on any Brit roadster.
> >
> >;)
> You could,,,,,,,,, if bonnet meant soft top and not hood,,,,,,, and
> by roadster I assume you mean open sports car,,,,,?
I mean what we Americans call the "hood," that thing that goes over the
engine, and guides every drop of water that hits it to the one place
where that drop will leak through the firewall to drip on the driver's
feet (and on the passenger, but only when it is someone the driver is
trying to impress).
Ian Wright
>
>
>I mean what we Americans call the "hood," that thing that goes over the
>engine, and guides every drop of water that hits it to the one place
>where that drop will leak through the firewall to drip on the driver's
>feet (and on the passenger, but only when it is someone the driver is
>trying to impress).
Oh I see,,,,,,, seems to be that if you went a little faster the rain
would blow past your elbow without the time to creep into the
bodywork,,,,,
More speed Keith, more fastness, or as a Yorkshire motorcyclist might
say "Give it some Thrutch!
Doug Dotson
I sometimes here may Canadian friends talk about going "Oat ina Boot".
Doug :)
Doug Dotson
Doug
Keith Wood
Ah, but the designers have prepared for that -- speed up, and the water
flows in between the windshield frame and the soft top.
Capt. Neal®
Wrong, Keith! We Americans call the place where negroes live
the 'hood'. They even call it that themselves.
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rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk
> rjh...@ucs.ed.ac.uk wrote:
>
> >Ian Wright <i...@vertue.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
> >> Better still, go barefoot. Feet are waterproof and as non-slip as
> >> anything glued to the sole of an over priced moccasin.
> >
> Actually they are not. My feet slip more on the cabin top than my boat
> shoes do, especially if it is a little wet.
Depends on deck surface? I usually sail wooden boats these days not
plastic, and baries grip as well as anything on wood.
> I was told that the reason
> there were so many peg leg sailors was because of foot injuries that became
> gangrenous and had to be amputated.
Does your informant also happen to know why so many old sea-dogs have
parrots perched on their shoulders (I just read Treasure Island *again*
and couldn't resist asking...)?
> It is also virtually impossible (for
> me anyway) to keep from hitting hard angular stuff with my foot when the
> boat is pitching around.
Unless you have steel toecaps that'll hurt whether you've got shoes on
or not. In any case, on any sensibly run boat, if it's pitching about a
bit, you'll be down below having tea and a fairy cake with the vicar
won't you?
RH
Ian Wright
>
>
>
>Ah, but the designers have prepared for that -- speed up, and the water
>flows in between the windshield frame and the soft top.
Good Lord man, have you no idea of how things are done,,,,?
You wear a Barbour waxed cotton coat, keep the soft top folded up
neatly in the garage in case you ever sell the car, fold the
windscreen flat for extra speed and keep flies out of your teeth and
hair with leather flying helmet and goggles.
All the above work very well indeed driving a 1936 Morgan three
wheeler. your milage may vary,,,,,,,,,,,
RGrew176
functional for that purpose.
David S Spear
longevity, but by far the best I have had so far are a pair of Sebago boat
mocs... they are the only mocassin I have tried with any insole support... I
had no problem standing in flat-soled shoes until I hit about age 30; then my
years of bodily abuse started catching up with me.
dave
RGrew176
been using them for several years now and they work very well on the boat.
Capt.Mooron
Lived in Boat shoes?
Real Mocaains have no "insole support" you pussy!
The only "footwear" should be Barefeet! You can't buy that kind of traction
/ feel / comfort at any price.
Just ask Scotty!,,,, he goes barefoot all the time!
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S.V.Overproof
"Treat your Crew with Disdain.... and other Vessels with Distaste"
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MadCow57
had an embroidered silk dressing own as well for below-decks...<
>>Just because one is afloat it is no excuse for allowing standards to
drop...<< -- Simon Earle
Aha, that explains why a 44-ft boat I visited recently had a bidet in the
master stateroom head.
Al Rodway
Geoff Harwood
<aer...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Excess weight flattening the old soles eh?
>Lived in Boat shoes?
>Real Mocaains have no "insole support" you pussy!
>The only "footwear" should be Barefeet! You can't buy that kind of traction
>/ feel / comfort at any price.
>
>Just ask Scotty!,,,, he goes barefoot all the time!
Trouble with barefoot is when there's ice on the deck!
Geoff at 50N 0W!
David Perry
traction
> >/ feel / comfort at any price.
Thats right. Nor split / shattered toenails that bang you up for a day or
two.
Humans...masters of the universe, belittled by a busted toenail!
David. Martian. No feet that ain't flat.
Rosalie B.
>On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:03:48 GMT, "Capt.Mooron"
><aer...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>Excess weight flattening the old soles eh?
>>Lived in Boat shoes?
>>Real Mocaains have no "insole support" you pussy!
>>The only "footwear" should be Barefeet! You can't buy that kind of traction
>>/ feel / comfort at any price.
>>
>>Just ask Scotty!,,,, he goes barefoot all the time!
>
>Trouble with barefoot is when there's ice on the deck!
My husband has tender feet, but I go barefoot in the snow. For some
reason he doesn't it when I get into bed afterwards<g>. In any case, my
feet are slipperier than my boat shoes.
>>"Treat your Crew with Disdain.... and other Vessels with Distaste"
>>"David S Spear" <david....@alcatel.com> wrote in message
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>>> I have lived in boat shoes for extended periods. I like Sperry topsiders
>>for
>>> longevity, but by far the best I have had so far are a pair of Sebago boat
>>> mocs... they are the only mocassin I have tried with any insole support...
>>I
>>> had no problem standing in flat-soled shoes until I hit about age 30; then
>>my
>>> years of bodily abuse started catching up with me.
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>> alex2000 wrote:
>>>
>>> > I am involoved withn company specilising in producing deck shoes.
>>> >
>>> > If anyone has any thoughts on what is good/bad about them or how they
>>could
>>> > be improved I would like to hear your comments.
>>> >
>>> > Many Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Peter
>>>
>>
>>
grandma Rosalie
Glenn Ashmore
have an affinity for toes.
Geoff Harwood wrote:
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Glenn Ashmore
I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there
of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Buck Frobisher
--
"Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs."
regards,
Frank Johansen
Aurora, Ontario
Glenn Ashmore
flying fish early in the morning before the coffee can get the day off
to a bad start and pelican poop between the twinkies is not pleasant
either.
Buck Frobisher wrote:
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Nick Evans
head one night - quite a spread...
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Was he in stitches?
Cheers MC
JC
"Geoff Harwood" <geoff....@nospamfreenet.co.uk> wrote in message
> Trouble with barefoot is when there's ice on the deck!
Or when one impales the ball of his foot on a sharp-profile deck cleat, as I
did. Left parts of me and lots of blood behind on the way to have it
stitched up. I'm a huge believer in not going barefoot on deck now.
Jeff
David Perry
in stitches!!!
David
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Joe Kovacs
>>>
>>> > I am involoved withn company specilising in producing deck shoes.
>>> >
>>> > If anyone has any thoughts on what is good/bad about them or how they
>>> > could be improved I would like to hear your comments.
>>> >
>>> > Many Thanks
>>> > Peter
Yah. Speak of the devil. I just went to a Sperry dealer to
get a pair of basic white lace-up Topsiders. They couldn't
get my size, 10 1/2 EEE, ostensibly from the manufacturer.
Either they or the 3,427,621 of us who wear 10 1/2 EEE are
right out of it.
--
Joe Kovacs
Port Colborne Ontario Canada
The_navigator©
;-)
Cheers MC
Joe Kovacs
That's a 13 1/2 EEE. A 10 1/2 EEE is within the realm of
reasonableness.
BJW
I'm stompin' around on 14 EEE's, should I just ask for a couple of canoes?
Of course they were helpful when I was a lifeguard and could outswim
everyone with my natural 'flippers' LOL
Bern
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Douglas King
> What's a 10 1/2 EEE? Is it a water ski?
It's a new one design
Doug Dotson
dug
BJW
Bern
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William Brown
Joe Kovacs wrote:
>
>>
> Yah. Speak of the devil. I just went to a Sperry dealer to
> get a pair of basic white lace-up Topsiders. They couldn't
> get my size, 10 1/2 EEE, ostensibly from the manufacturer.
> Either they or the 3,427,621 of us who wear 10 1/2 EEE are
> right out of it.
>
> --
> Joe Kovacs
> Port Colborne Ontario Canada
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wrote:
>Hey Peter,
>I'm stompin' around on 14 EEE's, should I just ask for a couple of canoes?
>Of course they were helpful when I was a lifeguard and could outswim
>everyone with my natural 'flippers' LOL
>Bern
I hear you, brother. Got 13 EEEs myself. Women seem to like 'em for
some reason.
R.
Doug Dotson
dug
BJW
maybe 'cause she can pack her shoes inside mine!
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Doug Dotson wrote:
>
> A Canadian 10 1/2 would be a baby shoe wouldn't it?
>
> dug
>
> William Brown wrote:
>
> > Is that a Canadian 10 1/2 EEE?
> >
--
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Boating in Canada http://www.ncf.ca/boating
Glenn A. Heslop
would be very happy to write an in depth report on my assessment of quality
and any possible improvement opportunities.
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