Live aboard legal problem
KN4IM Larry
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>Also I need to know where to find the actual law they are claiming. What is
>the definition of "houseboat"? Can I make a distinction between this and a
>floating home? The state in question is South Carolina. I'd like to find
>the necesary information without having to hire a lawyer.
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NO boat is permitted, now, as a liveaboard at a private dock in SC.
Sailboats, powerboats, houseboats, makes no difference. I just spent
an hour searching the idiotic SC state bureaucrats web pages to find
the law.....and couldn't. It must be some obscure Coastal Resource
Management regulation. www.state.sc.us is as dead as a nail tonight.
Nothing responds on it. SC state laws are at www.lpitr.state.sc.us
and it's working, such that it is. Searching for bills, laws,
regulations (which doesn't work at all), etc. is chaotic, archaeic and
most of all idiotic. If you contact them to suggest buying AltaVista,
they just get defensive because all those wonderful IT bureaucrats
can't get a real job in IT. SC laws on boating, to save you a few
hours, is Title 50 section 21 on lpitr's site. Any bills relating,
like the HUGE changes they are lining and changing about boating
that's in the 99 bills underway, are very hard to extract. I'm sure
the confusion factor is built-in, on purpose, to keep the general
population from finding out what's really going on in Columbia, as
usual.....dammit.
New marinas, I know first hand, have regulations PREVENTING
liveaboards (like private docks do). It's built into their contracts
with the state to use the waters. Old marinas are grandfathered in, a
very sweetheart deal for them, and liveaboards are allowed. Wonder
who and how much they paid for THAT little plum?
Sorry you got screwed out of your liveaboard houseboat. Coastal
Resource Management is located on the former Charleston Naval Base.
Stop at the gate on McMillan Ave (runs by Naval Hospital where it
intersects US 52 in N Charleston), and ask the cop where they are.
Try to hide all weapons, diesel fuel, fertilizer and firing mechanisms
while talking to him.
Larry....
KN4IM Larry
livaboard violations yet, including their legal people! The office is
The Office of Coastal Resource Management and I spoke with a Billy
Robins (843-744-5838). I forwarded this message to him via email and
you should be hearing from him directly within a day or so. I'll
email you his email address.
There is a pending legislation, according to Robins, in SC that will
prohibit living aboard a boat at a private dock. Maybe you all need
to do a little arm twisting at the legislature level to stop it. So
far, according to OCRM on the phone, it hasn't happened. I thought it
was already a done deal. It seems it is not! ACT!
Larry
On Tue, 4 May 1999 16:35:46 -0400, "Tom k" <tk...@cetlink.net> wrote:
>Trouble in paradise. Two friends have just been served legal papers
>indicating that they are in violation for living aboard their houseboat at
>private property. The violations they cite apply to hundreds of houseboats
>in our area and I want to research this situation. I must do this quickly
>as they have been given 30 days to be in compliance. After many years of
>improving their unbuildable patch of property suitable for their boat, they
>have no intention of moving.
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>Few marinas in our area are capable or interested in providing space for our
>13' x 50' to 16' x 80' crusing houseboats.
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>There are several points I can make, please add yours;
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>The houseboats in question are "Sumerset" production model driveable boats.
>Most houseboats of this type have been manufactured in the state of Kentucky
>several hundred miles away and transported here. These are not the floating
>homes (permanently moored) that I think the law is refering to. Many are
>tied up to private property with pilings and or dockage. Simply tied up to
>keep from blowing away as you would do with any boat in between cruises.
>For all intents and purposes this is simply a large boat.
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>The regulations they cited indicate that a "houseboat" that is "permanently
>moored" must be plumbed to a pump out station. Our houseboats are just
>standard large boats complete with holding tanks and no provison to pump out
>to the lake. The boats now in question were ordered with 400 gallons of
>waste capacity. It is not practical to connect to a pump out station except
>for periodocialy, when you refuel at the marina. Even if were able to have
>a pump out station installed to our private perperty, we would only hook up
>at the same interval of once per quarter.
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>Does the "permanently moored" wording apply to our houseboats? I should
>think not, as some of us go out on crusies daily and others just once per
>month or so. But we have the capability of operation, just as any boat.
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>The cited regulation states that a houseboat for live aboard use must be
>permanently attached in a marina and not private property. Again this
>refers to a floating home type of vessel.
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>Please comment.
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>Also I need to know where to find the actual law they are claiming. What is
>the definition of "houseboat"? Can I make a distinction between this and a
>floating home? The state in question is South Carolina. I'd like to find
>the necesary information without having to hire a lawyer.
>
>There are specific named regulations for boat houses (boat garages).
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>Thany you for any assistance.
>
>Tom Koroskenyi
>tk...@cetlink.net
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