Corsair F-24
Michael Stuyt
trimaran. I'm thinking about getting one and I am curious if the "folding"
feature worth more than its worth
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Well we have YOONICKS, so we have multitasking...
>I'm just curious about pepole's feelings towards this "folding up"
>trimaran. I'm thinking about getting one and I am curious if the "folding"
>feature worth more than its worth
It's worth about what it's worth.
Tom O'Toole - ecf_...@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu - JHUVMS system programmer
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Johns Hopkins University, Balto. Md. 21218
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Ross Wylde-Browne
From: Michael Stuyt, kloo...@stein2.u.washington.edu
Date: 27 Jun 1993 11:19:45 GMT
In article <20jvoh$k...@news.u.washington.edu> Michael Stuyt,
kloo...@stein2.u.washington.edu writes:
>I'm just curious about pepole's feelings towards this "folding up"
>trimaran. I'm thinking about getting one and I am curious if the
"folding"
>feature worth more than its worth
I have been sailing a Tramp trimaran for more than eight years now, this
was Ian Farrier's first production tri, and produced in the US for a time
and marketed as the "Eagle", (apparently the Tramp name has bad
connotations over there). I am very happy with the seaworthiness of such
a relatively small boat, it is competitive with much larger monohull
trailer-sailer yachts, and can be sailed comfortably in a blow with only
two people when conventional yachts are all lying down. It is launched
in folded configuration, so does not hog space at the launch ramp, and
can take a gang on board for a pleasure sail. Farrier's F25 design, the
amateur built version of the F24 is attracting a lot of attention over
here, and at least three are about to start construction in Canberra
alone.
So, if you want a boat that is light to tow, easy to rig, launch and
retrieve, has a performance equivalent to a 35 foot keel boat, and can be
easily handled by two people (or single handed if desired), then the F24
(or F27) is your only choice in a ready-built boat.
Go for a sail in one, you'll be impressed!!!
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Kevin Quinn
>Subject: Corsair F-24
>can take a gang on board for a pleasure sail. Farrier's F25 design, the
>amateur built version of the F24 is attracting a lot of attention over
>here, and at least three are about to start construction in Canberra
>alone.
Could you supply more information on homebuilt versions? Where
can plans be obtained, does Ian support any of these activities,
etc.
Thanks (from a wannabe F-x driver...)!.
kbq
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Ross Wylde-Browne
From: Kevin Quinn, kev...@calera.com
Date: 29 Jun 1993 15:36:56 -0700
I
>>Subject: Corsair F-24
>
> Could you supply more information on homebuilt versions? Where
> can plans be obtained, does Ian support any of these activities,
> etc.
>
> Thanks (from a wannabe F-x driver...)!.
Ian Farrier, originally from New Zealand, started development of his
Trailertri designs in Australia about 1973, starting with the Trailertri
18, followed by the Trailertri 680, and then a stretched version, the
Trailertri 720. He also designed a non-trailerable version, the Command
10, his first truly ocean-going design, which folded for marina berthing.
All these designs were for amateur building in sheet ply. His first
production design was the Tramp, built by Haines Hunter in Brisbane, and
as I previously wrote, also in the US as the Eagle. He had some trouble
with Haines Hunter, primarily power boat builders, with tending to lay up
the glass too thick, and some of the later boats were quite considerably
heavier than the design weight. Haines eventually went into liquidation,
and the Tramp moulds were acquired a few years ago by the Brisbane firm
OSTAC (Ocean Sailing Trimarans And Catamarans), builders of the Parallax
range of catamarans, who put a revised version of the Tramp into
production, built in foam sandwich, very much lighter, and with a small
cabin.
In 1984 Farrier moved to San Diego, and over the following years worked
for Corsair Marine establishing the production line for the F27, and just
lately the F24. He was not happy with the way Corsair wanted to modify
the interior layout of the F24, so ended up selling the design outright
to them, so only takes credit for the lines of the boat. He has now
separated with Corsair, but maintains quality control for the F27.
His first design back in the amateur arena was the F9A, a 31 foot
trimaran for amateur construction. I sailed on the first one on Lake
Macquarie during the Australian Multihull National Regatta in October
1991, made from the strip planked cedar plug for the production boat, the
F31. This design gave the builder the option of construction materials,
one-off builders will generally use strip plank cedar (cheaper) or
Durakore (lighter). The hulls are constructed in two halves, and joined
after installation of the centreboard and much of the interior furniture.
This speeds production, makes for a very strong and rigid monocoque type
hull, and also avoids the leaking problems of deck to hull joints in
wooden boats. The folding mechanism is prefabricated using high-tech
construction methods, vacuum bagging and carbon fibre reinforcing, and
also avoids the tricky alignment problems of the Trailertri designs. The
production version, the F31, is being built by OSTAC, and Corsair are the
agents for it in the US. His latest design, the somewhat smaller F25A,
is not yet in a production version. The first production F31 has been
campaigned very successfully, beating much larger ocean racers, and at
times on its trailer and ready for the road before the presentation
ceremony, while the others are only just starting to get ready to return
by sea.
Although other designers such as Tony Grainger produce faster trailable
multihull designs, they have very little in the way of accommodation, and
are time consuming and difficult to assemble and launch. Farrier's
designs can be sailing half an hour after arrival at the launch ramp, and
are a very good compromise cruiser/racer design, without troublesome
high-tech rigs, although if you want a rotating rig you can always put
one on yourself.
Ian Farrier now uses a Macintosh and MacSurf to produce his designs, so
he can easily modify them to individual requirements. His instructions
are very detailed, using a checkbox system to ensure things are done in
the most efficient order. His design office has now moved to the the
Seattle area, Washington, and his new address is:
PO Box 40675,
Bellevue,
WA 98015-4675.
You can obtain a design brochure from him, and he also produces a
quarterly newsletter called "Trailertri". I'm sure he would welcome a
call, and tell him I sent you.
Matt Pedersen
>
> Could you supply more information on homebuilt versions? Where
> can plans be obtained, does Ian support any of these activities,
> etc.
Ian Farrier can be reached at
Farrier Marine
P.O. Box 40675
Bellevue, WA 98015 USA
(206) 454-4627
Some things of note about the F-series designs:
He provides plans which are very complete, and enough information for
an amateur to build any one of his designs (he's been designing with the
amateur in mind for several years). You can buy his patented folding
mechanism as a kit, so you don't have to build it (it is made from
carbon fiber and aluminum). He will send you an information packet
for some nominal fee, study plans or a complete set of drawings
(for a somewhat larger fee of course).
One of our local magazines had a blurb this month saying the F-31 would
be built by a company in Aberdeen, Washington (there was some sort
of licensing agreement with Corsair). One of the first US built F-31's
set a multihull course record in the Swiftsure Race this year, a 130+ mile
offshore race into the Pacific. They had a huge crew of three. It was
a pretty slow race this year too.
Hope this helps
Matt Pedersen
Robert B. Williams
: of licensing agreement with Corsair). One of the first US built F-31's
: set a multihull course record in the Swiftsure Race this year, a 130+ mile
: offshore race into the Pacific. They had a huge crew of three. It was
: a pretty slow race this year too.
Well I don't think it was THAT slow... Rage came within a few hours of
breaking the old monohull course record of about 20 hours. Rage finished
in 23:45, I think.
Was that the F-31 that followed us out to the lightship? We were right
behind Oriole at the rounding, and there was what I thought was an F27 not
far behind us. It was definitely fast on a beam reach.
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