OT: A first hand review of........
JimH
I just downloaded this email from my good friends son who recently
left the USMC as a Gunnery Sgt. His email to me starts below.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Steven xxxxxx
To: xxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:52 PM
Subject: FW: From our friend who is serving in Afghanistan
From a buddy of mine that I served with which I've never doubted a
single word he's voiced.
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From: xxxxxxx
To: ;xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Fw: From our friend who is serving in Afghanistan
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:50:33 -0500
Sent: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 2:59 pm
Subject: From our friend who is serving in Afghanistan
Very interesting (but unconfirmed), but I have no reason to doubt
this.
Hi all FYI--for what freedom is worth.
Tiffany and Jeff Porter are our friends who live in
Virginia.
(Below is from Tiffany)
I don't know each of your personal political convictions, and
apologize if anyone finds this offensive. I thought it was important
enough to share. This is Jeff's first hand view of Senator
Obama. Tiffany
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Hello everyone, As you know I am not a very political person. I just
wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for
about an hour on his visit to 'The War Zone'. I wanted to share with
you what happened. He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof
vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who
is the commander here at Bagram.
As the Soldiers where lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and
didn't say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the
General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell
(pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play
basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity
pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk
to Soldiers to thank them for their service.
So really he was just here to make a showing for the American's back
home that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are
going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank
those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for
you.
I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the
Dallas Cowboy Cheer leaders than from one of the Senators, who wants
to be the President of the United States . I just don't understand how
anyone would want him to be ourCommander-and-Chief. It was almost that
he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and
our great country. If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but
I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is.
What you see in the news is all fake.
In service, CPT XXXXXXXXXXX Battle Captain American
Soldier
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What a guy Obama is.
D.Duck
"JimH" <osu...@oh.rr.com> wrote in message
news:175f8f7a-8315-4022...@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Better check your facts. Although still undetermined, it looks fishy.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp
D.Duck
"D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote in message
news:A8CdnTluUfLdahXV...@giganews.com...
HK ~ Now why would a *rightie* post a rebuttal to a potential Obama problem?
JimH
Thanks for the snopes review. I will pass it along once it is proved
or disproved.
Jim
"D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote in message
Jim
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> > What a guy Obama is.
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> Better check your facts. Although still undetermined, it looks fishy.
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> http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp
Thanks for the snopes review. I will pass it along once it is proved
or disproved.
Don't bother.
I wonder if Chuck would give you some extra time off because you cracked his
security. One can only hope.
HK
I don't think Obama went to Afghanistan to shake the hands of the troops.
D.Duck
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I see so many of these things and they all have the same ring to them
whether it be the world is coming to a end or oil was discovered in Lake
Michigan.
A little up front research can save a lot of embarrassment later.
D.Duck
RPS
> .......Obama's visit to Afghanistan.
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> I just downloaded this email from my good friends son who recently
> left the USMC as a Gunnery Sgt. His email to me starts below.
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> What a guy Obama is.
JimH,
We must have the same friends, because I received the same email. I
thought it was one of those viral emails that are making the rounds so i
didn't believe a word of it.
RPS
Viral email are so easy to spot, I am always amazed why anyone would
forward them. I guess some people want to be fooled.
HK
Viral posts are so easy to spot...just look for "Reggie's" fingerprints.
JimH
I did not crack anything Jim.
Get a life and stop the obsession with me.
Jim
"D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote in message
D.Duck
He can think what he wants, I explained to him in another thread that I
don't subscribe totally to either side. Good and bad every where.
JimH
The email I received is from my friends son, a recently retired
Gunnery Sgt. from the USMC who served 2 tours in Iraq. I do not
question information he sends me. I respect him, his morals and his
accomplishments.
Likewise........he did not doubt for a minute what his trusted Marine
friend forwarded to him.
I doubt he would be your friend as he has high standards.
We may have made a mistake in believing the email. BFD. Having
said that the truth has yet to be revealed on the validity of the
original email. For now I believe it. You can do otherwise. But I
guess that is reflective of the type of person you are.
RPS
Yes are completely correct, it does reflect my intelligence to spot BS
and your ability to buy into anything that fits your preconceived view
of reality. Even when it is shown that this is a viral email, you still
believe it was sent to him by a "trusted Marine friend". That trusted
Marine friend must have sent it to have the world. I now see why you
and Harry are friends, you both live in your own dream world.
RPS
Larry
1697ad...@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
> If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but
> I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is.
> What you see in the news is all fake.
>
They're all fake. It's a big act in the sham election.
McCain would be out there shaking every private's hands he could reach to
show he's just one of the GIs from a bygone era. McCain is just the
opposite fake.
There's ONE candidate that's the genuine article.....DR. RON PAUL....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOKMbpbRk3w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg
We must NOT let this man on the ballot as he is the person the American
people want to be our president. How silly. The people of Texas should be
very proud. The Google show is fantastic....and over 1 hour long with no
handlers screening the questions for political correctness.
thu...@takeoutgti.net
> oil was discovered in Lake
> Michigan.
It was, well, mostly natural gas, but there are a few producing oil wells.
Eisboch
<thu...@TAKEOUTgti.net> wrote in message
news:D_OdnScloYmuIRTV...@posted.gtinet...
T. Boone Pickens is a big advocate of natural gas as part of the
"PickensPlan" to make the USA energy independent.
http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan/
Eisboch
John H.
Some good ideas there, but the Democrats will not allow them to be put in
place. The Democrats cannot be problem solvers. If problems get solved,
dependance on the government decreases, and without dependance the power
base is gone.
HK
Wow...reich-wing radio, right here in reich-wing-wrecked-boats.
thu...@takeoutgti.net
> T. Boone Pickens is a big advocate of natural gas as part of the
> "PickensPlan" to make the USA energy independent.
>
> http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan/
>
> Eisboch
I've always thought Pickens makes a lot of sense, but I think he may be
missing this one. I'm sure you have heard of the Hubbert curve. It's
the bell shaped curve concerning oil supply. Natural gas fields don't
follow a bell curve. They decline sharply as in a "natural gas cliff".
There are some that say we are approaching the cliff.
http://mobjectivist.blogspot.com/2005/06/natural-gas-cliff.html
Gene Kearns
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|.......Obama's visit to Afghanistan.
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|I just downloaded this email from my good friends son who recently
|left the USMC as a Gunnery Sgt. His email to me starts below.
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|----- Original Message -----
|From: Steven xxxxxx
|To: xxxxxx
|Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:52 PM
|Subject: FW: From our friend who is serving in Afghanistan
Already debunked by Snopes.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp
This underscores the need for all Americans to be personally
responsible for due diligence before posting slanderous comments. I'm
sure both sides of the political debate will be responsible for false
statements. Knowing this, it is better not to repeat what you cannot
reasonably verify as fact.
--
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Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
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RPS
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> Already debunked by Snopes.
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp
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> This underscores the need for all Americans to be personally
> responsible for due diligence before posting slanderous comments. I'm
> sure both sides of the political debate will be responsible for false
> statements. Knowing this, it is better not to repeat what you cannot
> reasonably verify as fact.
>
I think the comment from the military office at the very end of the
article to be reflective of most of the military people I have known.
"Personally, I think any officer who would publicly gripe about not
getting "thanked' for his service by a civilian is a disgrace to the
military."
D.Duck
"Gene Kearns" <gene.b...@myworkshop.idleplay.net> wrote in message
news:4889cb62$0$10969$834e...@reader.greatnowhere.com...
To be perfectly fair, *undetermined* is the current Snopes status. I
personally believe it is just another in a long line of bogus *facts*
floating around the Internet.
Gene Kearns
To be perfectly reasonable, if seeing is believing.... it is debunked.
http://cbs4.com/local/obama.media.press.2.778269.html
Loogy...@gmail.com
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> > I just downloaded this email from my good friends son who recently
> > left the USMC as a Gunnery Sgt. His email to me starts below.
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steven xxxxxx
> > To: xxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:52 PM
> > Subject: FW: From our friend who is serving in Afghanistan
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> > single word he's voiced.
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> > I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is.
> > What you see in the news is all fake.
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> > Soldier
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> > What a guy Obama is.
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JimH won't let a little thing like facts get in the way of his silly
propaganda!
John H.
>To be fair, the "status" alone doen't give the whole picture. The
>article explains that there is video proof that even if the letter was
>authentic, and really written by who it claims, and says what it says,
>it is filled with lies.
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You don't understand. This email came from JimH's good friend's son who
recently left the USMC as a Gunnery Sgt, and is therefore beyond reproach.
JimH
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:49:43 -0400, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> >On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:10:24 -0400, "D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote:
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Nope, not beyond reproach but I trust him as I do all my good friends.
You, on the other hand, are not trust worthy.
Eh?
RPS
Now that you know he is just forwarding a viral political email, and
contradicts eyewitness accounts from many others, and according to the
US Military as complete false, don't you feel silly?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp
Next time will you trust this same guy the next time he forwards you a
viral email? There is an old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool
me twice shame on me"
"Personally, I think any officer who would publicly gripe about not
being thanked by a civilian, is a disgrace to the military".
JimH
Yep. Some folks made a mistake in believing the email, including me
and my good friend's son.
That is why they put erasers on pencils. No one is perfect.
Ever made a mistake?
Too bad some folks here revel in continuously pointing out and making
fun of mistakes folks make no matter how minor they may be in the
scheme of things.
Me.........I prefer to stand by my good friends
Loogy...@gmail.com
> On Jul 25, 5:01 pm, RPS <R...@here.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 25, 3:58 pm, John H. <salmonb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:49:43 -0400, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> > >>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:10:24 -0400, "D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote:
> > >>>> "Gene Kearns" <gene.boat...@myworkshop.idleplay.net> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:4889cb62$0$10969$834e...@reader.greatnowhere.com...
> > >>>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:00:33 -0700 (PDT), JimH penned the following
> > >>>>> well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
> > >>>>> |.......Obama's visit to Afghanistan.
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> > >>>>> |I just downloaded this email from my good friends son who recently
> > >>>>> |left the USMC as a Gunnery Sgt. His email to me starts below.
> > >>>>> |
Yeah, that damned Harry is ALWAYS pointing out and making fun of
people's typos and misspellings. Oooops, you do the same thing!
RPS
,,, and you will continue to forward viral political email without
checking on the facts. As I said Fool me once, shame on you, fool me
twice, shame on me. You have forwarded many bs emails in the past, you
just don't learn.
I have lots of friends who I enjoy, some of them are dumb and forward
these stupid viral emails that obviously are pure bullshit. Just
because they are dumb, doesn't mean I have to make myself look dumb by
forwarding the email to others.
It is obvious that your mileage varies.
JimH
Did you miss the point of "good" friends?
I can recall you recanting several posts you made here because you
provided incorrect information.
I guess we are all mere mortals and life goes on. Eh?
Those who continue to pile on my mistake are
looking..................aw.....never mind.
RPS
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> Did you miss the point of "good" friends?
I must have. Does that mean anytime a "good" friend tells you something
or forwards you email, no matter how stupid it is, you believe it?
DK
How's your time out from Chuck's, WAFA?
DK
Sure. May the force be with you.
DK
Not only did you post an OT message to this group, you posted this crap?
Learn from Chuck's words, Jimmy.