Canoe/trolling motor?
Steven Pedery
I am thinking of adding a trolling motor to my venerable Old Town
Discovery 164 to expand it's fishing abilities (tired of letting the
person sitting up front fish while I paddle!)
Anyone have any experience mounting trolling motors to Old Town's? This
boat has a pointed stern, so any motor will have to be mounted on the
side. Is it possible to clamp directly to the canoe in front of the
carrying handle, or should I get one of those bolt-on brackets that sets
the motor out beside the canoe?
BTW - I am planning on a Minn-Kota 35 (24# thrust) for the motor. Any
suggestions on a fairly small deep cycle to go with it?
Steve P.
Henry Ochoa
Hi steven
My name I Henry or Hank the Fisherman
I givin this issue a lot of thought , The best answer I could give you
would be Check with Min Kota for a transom for your trolling motor and
if they dont ,Try a couple of fishing Catalogs and see if you cant get a
idea for a design I have a couple myself But of course They still need
to be put down on paper then manufactured BUT could there could be a
market for such ? will see
Thanks Hank
Steve King
Henry Ochoa (hoc...@pacbell.net) wrote:
: Hi steven
: My name I Henry or Hank the Fisherman
: I givin this issue a lot of thought , The best answer I could give you
: would be Check with Min Kota for a transom for your trolling motor and
: if they dont ,Try a couple of fishing Catalogs and see if you cant get a
: idea for a design I have a couple myself But of course They still need
: to be put down on paper then manufactured BUT could there could be a
: market for such ? will see
Depending on the size of the motor, I've seen plenty of people
cut a board with two grooves to fit over the gunwales near
the stern. The motor is then clamped to the board.
The trouble is, now you've got a pretty heavy deep-cycle
battery claiming what limited space is back there anyway,
and just another thing to dick with; it's hard enough
fishing from a canoe.
: Steven Pedery wrote:
: >
: > I am thinking of adding a trolling motor to my venerable Old Town
: > Discovery 164 to expand it's fishing abilities (tired of letting the
: > person sitting up front fish while I paddle!)
: >
: > Anyone have any experience mounting trolling motors to Old Town's? This
: > boat has a pointed stern, so any motor will have to be mounted on the
: > side. Is it possible to clamp directly to the canoe in front of the
: > carrying handle, or should I get one of those bolt-on brackets that sets
: > the motor out beside the canoe?
: >
: > BTW - I am planning on a Minn-Kota 35 (24# thrust) for the motor. Any
: > suggestions on a fairly small deep cycle to go with it?
: >
: > Steve P.
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Randy
Steve King wrote:
>
> Henry Ochoa (hoc...@pacbell.net) wrote:
> : Hi steven
> : My name I Henry or Hank the Fisherman
> : I givin this issue a lot of thought , The best answer I could give you
> : would be Check with Min Kota for a transom for your trolling motor and
> : if they dont ,Try a couple of fishing Catalogs and see if you cant get a
> : idea for a design I have a couple myself But of course They still need
> : to be put down on paper then manufactured BUT could there could be a
> : market for such ? will see
>
> Depending on the size of the motor, I've seen plenty of people
> cut a board with two grooves to fit over the gunwales near
> the stern. The motor is then clamped to the board.
>
> The trouble is, now you've got a pretty heavy deep-cycle
> battery claiming what limited space is back there anyway,
> and just another thing to dick with; it's hard enough
> fishing from a canoe.
>
for the motor and put the battery in the front of the canoe (if I was
alone) and in the middle (if I wasn't). It worked very well, the
trolling motor really moved the canoe along (much faster than my fishing
boat). The only thing I didn't like about it was the battery was pretty
heavy to carry down to the water if my vehicle was not close by. Next
time I'm going to get a small gas motor since it is lighter than the
trolling motor/battery combo, and you don't need to recharge it.
Stuart Brent Fowler
I have a old Town Discovery 158. I purchased a wooden bracket that fits
on the outside of the boat. I have the MinnKota 35 (24 lbs. thurst). The
motor is quick and perfect for trolling. It has increased the fishability
of my canoe by 100%. I use Voyager Deep Cycle marine batteries and have a
tester made by Minn Kota (available at Wal-Mart for about $10) that tells
me how much juice I have left. I use two large batteries because I often
fish all day and require the juice. The motor will get you to the fishing
spot at a nice speed.
Also, I purchased a Hummingbird Wide 100 depthfinder. It utilizes a
suction cup that stays very well on the side of the boat. Combined, these
two accessories have made my regular old canoe one that can get me where
the big boats can and more importantly, where they can't.
Tom Nagel
I use an a tiny old yard sale Minkota trolling motor on my 17 foot Grumman.
I mount the motor on in the bow on a home made clamp-on transom bar.
With the motor and battery in the bow, I can sit in the stern and steer
with a paddle. I made a simple on/off switch out of a heavy duty
extension cord and line switch, and I run that back to the stern.
I think of it as my electric bow paddler.
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Basskisser
Steve,
The trolling motor you are planning to use has a maximun amphere draw
of 29 amps. If you go with a small deep cycle battery you will be able to
run across a lake for 3 hours. If you go with a large deep cycle battery
you will last for 4 hours. I have a canoe with a Minn Kota 40ta (27 lbs of
thrust with built in battery tester). It also has a max amphere draw of 29
amps. I use 2 large deep cycle batteries connected together with cables and
leader cables running to the back of the boat where the motor is mounted. (
this way my batteries are in the middle of the boat ) Both batteries are
rated individually at 110 Ah ( Ah= amphere hours ) So I have a total of 220
Ah. So with a max draw of 29 amps I can run for 7.5 hours at full amp draw
before running my batteries down. I neaver run them all the way down
because it is bad for the deep cycle battery as far as total life and how
much of a charge it will hold. I find that with the 2 batteries I can get
around any body of water with ease and not have to worry about how much of
a charge I have left. I use my bass boat on large bodies of water but I
have alot of fun fishing areas where the big boats cant go like feeder
creeks/ water where no gas motors are allowed and water where you cant get
a big boat in. The effeciency of the canoe and the trolling motor make for
a very enjoyable time on the water. I mount the motor 2 ways, I have 2 cut
pieces of plywood(1 for the inside of the boat and one for the outside) for
when I mount the motor to the side of the canoe. And I have a canoe motor
mount I made. It is a 2x4 with groves cut in the sides so that I get a 12
inches of overhang on both sides. on one side I put a small gas motor ( 2.5
pony's) and the trolling motor on the other side. I then attached a strap
that runs from tip to tip which I snug around the stern of the canoe
(pointed stern too). And on the inside I have 2 straps that go to the
closest cross bar ( gunwhale support). I strap these to the cross bar as
close to the gunwhale as possible and it works like a charm. My canoe is a
coleman Ramex 17 foot canoe ( I know your thinking that it might be a
hunk). It's one of the best investments in fishing I have ever made in my
life. I run over fallen trees, scraped it over rocks, pulled it through
brush, and over beaver dams. And have found some of the best fishing in my
life thanks to the canoe. ------------Paul-------------
Give a man a fish and he will have dinner.
Teach a man to fish and he will be late for dinner.
Hal Levine
Steven Pedery wrote:
>
> I am thinking of adding a trolling motor to my venerable Old Town
> Discovery 164 to expand it's fishing abilities (tired of letting the
> person sitting up front fish while I paddle!)
>
> Anyone have any experience mounting trolling motors to Old Town's? This
> boat has a pointed stern, so any motor will have to be mounted on the
> side. Is it possible to clamp directly to the canoe in front of the
> carrying handle, or should I get one of those bolt-on brackets that sets
> the motor out beside the canoe?
>
> BTW - I am planning on a Minn-Kota 35 (24# thrust) for the motor. Any
> suggestions on a fairly small deep cycle to go with it?
>
> Steve P.
Motor Guide Stealth 200 trolling motor. I put my deep cycle battery at
the stern and clamp the motor directly to the canoe. I do use a piece
of pine or plywood to keep the motor and clamps from marking the canoe.
I have had not problems and have trolled all over. I now do mostly
kayaking and feel free to visit my site to see how I fish from my sea
kayak: http://www.jlc.net/~levin
--
Hal
Wilton, NH
http://www.jlc.net/~hlevin
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>On Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:53:01 +0100, Steven Pedery
<BR><mazrim#@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
<BR>
<BR><I>>I am thinking of adding a trolling motor to my venerable Old Town</I>
<BR><I>>Discovery 164 to expand it's fishing abilities (tired of letting the</I>
<BR><I>>person sitting up front fish while I paddle!)</I>
<BR><I>></I>
<BR><I>>Anyone have any experience mounting trolling motors to Old Town's?
This</I>
<BR><I>>boat has a pointed stern, so any motor will have to be mounted on the</I>
<BR><I>>side. Is it possible to clamp directly to the canoe in front
of the</I>
<BR><I>>carrying handle, or should I get one of those bolt-on brackets that
sets</I>
<BR><I>>the motor out beside the canoe?</I>
<BR><I>></I>
<BR><I>>BTW - I am planning on a Minn-Kota 35 (24# thrust) for the motor.
Any</I>
<BR><I>>suggestions on a fairly small deep cycle to go with it?</I>
<BR><I>></I>
<BR><I>>Steve P.</I>
<BR>
<BR>Just put that kind of a rig together. 'Sold my v bottom- too
heavy
<BR>and art(hritis) kept complaining abouthe weight of the trailer.
<BR>Bought an Old Town 133 w/ the proceeds . They sell a motor mount kit
<BR>which is of ash and lays across the thwart and clamps to the gunnels
<BR>w/o modification .I 'm driving it w/ a 2 hp Sears electric.The motor
<BR>hangs offthe side and aft of the stern seat. Good rig.
</BLOCKQUOTE>
I've got a Ram-X 15 ft with a MinnKota 40T (28 lbs thrust) and simply clamp
it to the right side of the canoe with a board on the outside where the
clamp butts against the outside of the canoe to help distribute the force
of the clamp. I also sit in the front seat and face toward the middle
of the canoe. This will put your center of gravity towards
the center of the boat. I also rigged cables so I can put the battery on
the other end of the canoe for more even weight distribution. I put
a depthfinder (Eagle SupraPro ID) on it and epoxied the transducer on the
inside hull so it will shoot through the hull. It has held tight
for four years now. I also put oudoor carpeting on the inside to
help quiet it down some. A word to the wise- be careful and
get the feel of the canoe with the trolling motor in a calm and/or shallow
spot on a lake. Fast turns with the trolling motor can be tricky
(read FUN). I highly recommend this set up for hp limited lakes.
A trolling motor can really make a canoe MOVE. Tight lines and don't
forget your PFD.
<BR>BassTaurus
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ma...@nji.com wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>On Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:53:01 +0100, Steven Pedery
<BR><mazrim#@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
<BR>
<BR><I>>I am thinking of adding a trolling motor to my venerable Old Town</I>
<BR><I>>Discovery 164 to expand it's fishing abilities (tired of letting the</I>
<BR><I>>person sitting up front fish while I paddle!)</I>
<BR><I>></I>
<BR><I>>Anyone have any experience mounting trolling motors to Old Town's?
This</I>
<BR><I>>boat has a pointed stern, so any motor will have to be mounted on the</I>
<BR><I>>side. Is it possible to clamp directly to the canoe in front
of the</I>
<BR><I>>carrying handle, or should I get one of those bolt-on brackets that
sets</I>
<BR><I>>the motor out beside the canoe?</I>
<BR><I>></I>
<BR><I>>BTW - I am planning on a Minn-Kota 35 (24# thrust) for the motor.
Any</I>
<BR><I>>suggestions on a fairly small deep cycle to go with it?</I>
<BR><I>></I>
<BR><I>>Steve P.</I>
<BR>
<BR>Just put that kind of a rig together. 'Sold my v bottom- too
heavy
<BR>and art(hritis) kept complaining abouthe weight of the trailer.
<BR>Bought an Old Town 133 w/ the proceeds . They sell a motor mount kit
<BR>which is of ash and lays across the thwart and clamps to the gunnels
<BR>w/o modification .I 'm driving it w/ a 2 hp Sears electric.The motor
<BR>hangs offthe side and aft of the stern seat. Good rig.
</BLOCKQUOTE>
I've got a Ram-X 15 ft with a MinnKota 40T (28 lbs thrust) and simply clamp
it to the right side of the canoe with a board on the outside where the
clamp butts against the outside of the canoe to help distribute the force
of the clamp. I also sit in the front seat and face toward the middle
of the canoe. This will put your center of gravity towards
the center of the boat. I also rigged cables so I can put the battery on
the other end of the canoe for more even weight distribution. I put
a depthfinder (Eagle SupraPro ID) on it and epoxied the transducer on the
inside hull so it will shoot through the hull. It has held tight
for four years now. I also put oudoor carpeting on the inside to
help quiet it down some. A word to the wise- be careful and
get the feel of the canoe with the trolling motor in a calm and/or shallow
spot on a lake. Fast turns with the trolling motor can be tricky
(read FUN). I highly recommend this set up for hp limited lakes.
A trolling motor can really make a canoe MOVE. Tight lines and don't
forget your PFD.
<BR>BassTaurus
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craig o'donnell
> I used to do this with my 15 foot canoe, I lenghtened the power cables
> for the motor and put the battery in the front of the canoe (if I was
> alone) and in the middle (if I wasn't).
There's no law that says you can't put the motor and battery nearly
amidships on a bracket. However, haven't tried it and can't say how
convenient or inconvenient the steering would be. Might need a rudder of
some sort.
There were at one point fishing boats with outboards located in a well
about 1/3 of the way back from the bow. They're shown in one of Harry
Sucher's books.
My sailing canoe (no motor) has a rudder mounted on the left side,
trailing edge about parallel with the stern, because it's a hell of a lot
easier to rig it up that way. Works fine.
-- COD
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John Tessel
I used to have a 16' Discovery (thought it was a 169, but I could be
wrong) with a Minn Kota 24lb thrust on it. Bought the motor mount (wooden
and clamped on one side), battery(don't remember brand but weighed a ton), and
motor from LL Bean. Might have been a bit more expensive than other vendors
(didn't really shop around on it), but on the few occasions I had trouble,
their service/warranty (life time 100% warranty) was great. The rig itself
was perfect for fishing small to mid-sized ponds and lakes and was great
around stumps. Make sue you get a good battery charger and keep the battery
charged up, makes for great fishing and nice control around stumps, etc...
John
Massachusetts Editor - The Anadromous Page
http://www.peak.org/~robertr/fishing.html
In article <334CE2...@ix.netcom.com>, mazrim#@ix.netcom.com says...
>
>I am thinking of adding a trolling motor to my venerable Old Town
>Discovery 164 to expand it's fishing abilities (tired of letting the
>person sitting up front fish while I paddle!)
>
>Anyone have any experience mounting trolling motors to Old Town's? This
>boat has a pointed stern, so any motor will have to be mounted on the
>side. Is it possible to clamp directly to the canoe in front of the
>carrying handle, or should I get one of those bolt-on brackets that sets
>the motor out beside the canoe?
>
>BTW - I am planning on a Minn-Kota 35 (24# thrust) for the motor. Any
>suggestions on a fairly small deep cycle to go with it?
>
>Steve P.
Oyster
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I occasionally use a Stealth 250 electric motor (by Motor Guide, I
think) on my Old Town 158 canoe. Thus far I've bolted it directly to
the side, near the rear seat, and have had no trouble that way.
However, intuition tells me I'd be happier and more at ease with a
clamp-on bracket, and I plan to order one in the near future.
Best wishes,
Charlie Varner - Augusta, GA
David I Parker
Steven Pedery wrote:
>
> I am thinking of adding a trolling motor to my venerable Old Town
> Discovery 164 to expand it's fishing abilities (tired of letting the
> person sitting up front fish while I paddle!)
>
I have used a trolling motor on my 15-foot Grumman for a lot of years,
but I rig the motor in a rather unconventional manner. I place the
motor on a conventional side-mount as far forward of the FRONT seat as I
can get it, with the thrust of the motor pushing towards the REAR of the
canoe. I then place the battery as far back in the canoe as it will
possibly go (which requires lengthening of the electric cables). I then
sit in the FRONT seat facing forwards, with the motor controls located
at my right hand, and most of the canoe dragging along behind me. I
usually fish alone and in ponds or small lakes - so this arrangement
provide distinct advantages.
1 - I need fish only over the length of the front end, not over the
entire length of the canoe.
2 - The weight of the battery in the far stern offsets much of my
weight in front; keeping the other end of the canoe from blowing around
in the wind. Its weight on the floor of the canoe also adds stability.
3 - Just as a trolling motor mounted on the bow (rather than the
transom) of any fishing boat makes it easier to maneuver, the same is
true for the forward mount on a canoe. It is much easier to place your
position with respect to any cover you may be fishing.
If you want you want to run to the other end of the pond, turn the motor
180 and run backwards. For running, the canoe steers better this way.
If you take along an occaisional buddy, put him in the stern and place
the battery amidships. Most of the time, you'll be fishing the better
spots before he does since you'll get there first. If he's a good
friend, you'll let him have a choice spot from time-to-time.
John Lynch
Hey Steve-
I work at Marin Outdoors in Marin County, California and we sell Old
Town Canoes. Old Town makes a motor mount with a flat bar over the
gunnels and two clamps that attach under the inner gunnels. As I
recall, there is a 2x4 attached to the underside of the portion of metal
bar which extends out of the boat. The motor then mounts to the 2x4.
They go for about $65 (I think) and are quite well made.
-john