Necky Jive 8'10" outfitting
Peik
I've submitted some preliminary personal views of the boat to
http://www.scandiplayboater.com/
The Necky website doesn't invite questions, so what do you
RBPers think:
Necky has mounted the seat a couple of inches forward of what
appears to be the original design position (I moved it back before
putting it on the water cause it looks better, and makes a better fit
between my body / spray deck / boat. Any comments from other
owners?
I feel maybe the forward position is rodeo/hole play related.
I haven't paddled it in any challenging water yet, but the hull seems
reasonably balanced with the seat mounted in the rearmost
(original?) position.
BTW the Necky outfitting isn't as bad as some would have it,
and the optional thigh grips that come with the boat work better
than I feared when positioned carefully (added 1/4" of foam padding
which may help a little). I've seen little comment on this boat or
other "compromise boats" lately, for an old heavy guy like me,
8'10" is slow enough when paddling upstream.......
--
Peik Borud
Norway
peik<at>online.no
jesse kodadek
: BTW the Necky outfitting isn't as bad as some would have it,
: and the optional thigh grips that come with the boat work better
: than I feared when positioned carefully (added 1/4" of foam padding
I loved my Jive's outfitting. The foam backpad was way better than any
backband I've tried...also, the almost total lack of thighbraces allowed
my knees to be up really high, which I find way more comfortable than
having my knees splayed out to the sides and pushed down like in my Stubby
(with the thighbraces that provide more room, even!).
Necky outfitting gets a bad rap. It's way better than WS's IMHO.
--
jesse kodadek, missoula, mt
jkodadek at selway dot umt dot edu
Jim Knox
like the original thigh braces, or lack thereof. I was able to get some
dagger braces at NOC (at springsplash for $5!). Without these, I did not wear
this boat.
Really fine front surfer and stable down river. Still, I prefer my 3D for all
around fun. Anybody use the 8'10" for creeks? Does the concave stern tend to
provide sky views, or is the boat big enough to overcome this with forward
lean and agressive strokes?
jesse kodadek wrote:
--
Jim Knox
"The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any
position of the goverment or NASA"
Peik
Jim Knox <first.l...@msfc.nasa.gov>
wrote:3911C185...@msfc.nasa.gov...
> I agree with the Necky outfitting being rock solid in general, but did NOT
> like the original thigh braces, or lack thereof. I was able to get some
> dagger braces at NOC (at springsplash for $5!). Without these, I did not
wear
> this boat.
>
bumps
near the bolts holding the footrest platform bar. I loosened the bolts and
twisted
the aluminium (you need some really hefty pliers or a wrench for this) until
the
rear ends were aligned with the angle of the hull at the attachment point.
Seems
to have solved the issue. Maybe it isn't a problem, but this avoids
unnecessary
stress on the plastic, and made the thing easier to attach than before.
> Really fine front surfer and stable down river. Still, I prefer my 3D for
all
> around fun. Anybody use the 8'10" for creeks? Does the concave stern tend
to
> provide sky views, or is the boat big enough to overcome this with forward
> lean and agressive strokes?
>
>
Haven't tried yet, personally I believe this won't be a problem, rather I
had
initial thoughts of choosing the regular Jive with less rear volume. This
boat is
not especially easy to stern squirt, but there's not much rocker in the
stern, so
it may be hard to back-surf. The bow has more rocker, so front surfing and
bow pinning seems to be unproblematic areas.
Kevin Sulewski
with Dagger RPM braces which work much better. I considered moving the
seat back but got stuck. I loosen the screws and whacked it with a hammer
but it wouldn't move. How did you do it.
As a boat is okay. I weigh 195 lbs. It has too much stern volume for back
enders. It river runs okay. In retrospect, I should have kept the RPM. Kevin
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Peik wrote:
> I've just bought the "big" Jive 8'10" and got some outfitting questions:
> I've submitted some preliminary personal views of the boat to
> http://www.scandiplayboater.com/
> The Necky website doesn't invite questions, so what do you
> RBPers think:
>
> Necky has mounted the seat a couple of inches forward of what
> appears to be the original design position (I moved it back before
> putting it on the water cause it looks better, and makes a better fit
> between my body / spray deck / boat. Any comments from other
> owners?
> I feel maybe the forward position is rodeo/hole play related.
> I haven't paddled it in any challenging water yet, but the hull seems
> reasonably balanced with the seat mounted in the rearmost
> (original?) position.
>
> BTW the Necky outfitting isn't as bad as some would have it,
> and the optional thigh grips that come with the boat work better
> than I feared when positioned carefully (added 1/4" of foam padding
> which may help a little). I've seen little comment on this boat or
> other "compromise boats" lately, for an old heavy guy like me,
> 8'10" is slow enough when paddling upstream.......
>
Kevin Sulewski
river running. I paid $50 for my dagger thigh brace so it looks like i
got ripped off. kevin
On 4 May 2000, Jim Knox wrote:
> I agree with the Necky outfitting being rock solid in general, but did NOT
> like the original thigh braces, or lack thereof. I was able to get some
> dagger braces at NOC (at springsplash for $5!). Without these, I did not wear
> this boat.
>
> Really fine front surfer and stable down river. Still, I prefer my 3D for all
> around fun. Anybody use the 8'10" for creeks? Does the concave stern tend to
> provide sky views, or is the boat big enough to overcome this with forward
> lean and agressive strokes?
>
>
>
> jesse kodadek wrote:
>
> > Peik <pe...@online.no> wrote:
> > : BTW the Necky outfitting isn't as bad as some would have it,
> > : and the optional thigh grips that come with the boat work better
> > : than I feared when positioned carefully (added 1/4" of foam padding
> >
Peik
Kevin Sulewski <sule...@fhs.csu.McMaster.CA>
wrote::Pine.HPP.3.91.100050...@fhs.csu.McMaster.CA...
> The original thigh braces suck. They grab your knees. I replaced mine
> with Dagger RPM braces which work much better.
Hi from Peik:
The ones fitted originally don't deserve the name, the extra ones supplied
with the boat looked almost as bad, but I gave them a chance. I believe
part of the trick is mounting them far back, so they grab your thighs, not
knees. Back end of the extra ones about 2 inches behind the originals.
Attached them with the same bolt as originals. Worked better than I dared
hope,
and as I stated in the first post, they keep me in position without having
to think of it.
If unlike me, you have long slim thighs, things might work out different.
I considered moving the
> seat back but got stuck. I loosen the screws and whacked it with a hammer
> but it wouldn't move. How did you do it.
>
Remove deck bolts holding seat, remove bolt through seat/centre pillar.
Move seat where you want it. Drill new holes in seat through deck holes.
Bolt seat through deck (nuts are a bit fiddly, but believe me they're worse
on many other boats). Stick big bolt back through centre pillar, on my boat
it felt like there was another hole through the foam where I needed it!
> As a boat is okay. I weigh 195 lbs. It has too much stern volume for back
> enders. It river runs okay. In retrospect, I should have kept the RPM.
Kevin
>
Guess moving the seat back a couple of inches doesn't hurt then...........
> On Wed, 3 May 2000, Peik wrote:
> > I've just bought the "big" Jive 8'10" and got some outfitting questions:
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