What's a Grumman worth?
David and Kelly Perry
and buying something in Royalex. I told them that it was definitely
worth something but didn't know what. How much are old Grummans in good
shape going for? Any thoughts?
leland
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with them. after the nuclear holocaust all of the plastic and glass boats
will be a melted mass of muck. but all of us Grumman owners will emerge out
from under our protested aluminum shielding and paddle off into the sun set.
Gary Pagac
wrote:
Yeah...i'd say to contact the local Boy Scouts to see what they could
offer for it.
Andrew Gooding
Why, the Grumman (especially if it's the Grumman Eagle) is a better all
around boat for flatwater paddling than most Royalex boats. They aren't
as good for whitewater, but they are faster, more rigid and more
abrasion resistant.
That said, my Dad bought a 17" Grumman for $250, which seemed fair. If
it's the Eagle and in good shape $3-400 might be reasonable. But it all
depends on the buyer.
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<davean...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> My father and stepmother are thinking of selling their Grumman 16' canoe
> and buying something in Royalex. I told them that it was definitely
> worth something but didn't know what. How much are old Grummans in good
> shape going for? Any thoughts?
The Paddling-Sold classification in ORBS Free Outdoor Classifieds (URL
below) has a several dozen successful ads for used paddle boats of all
types and manufacturers. When people report their boat sold, and ask
us to remove the ad from Paddling-Available, we scratch out their name
and move the ad to Paddling-Sold.
So you might get an idea of realisitic asking prices there. Of course,
the done-deal prices and terms are another matter. You might also look
in Paddling-Available, where there are typically 70 or 80 used boats
for sale, sometimes as many as 200. But you will see asking prices
which have not (yet) brought a buyer.
We also have Sold classifications for snow sports gear, packs, tents,
sleeping bags, clothing, and climbing gear. They are among our highest
traffic classifications exactly because every buyer and seller has the
same question as you have.
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Aslaan 5
Actually, my mother has one of the first production whitewater grummans!
Weighs like 100 or so lbs.
Zach
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fiber marathon C-2 to an Olympic K-4. I always have an aluminum canoe around
and always will. They have value and utility except to ignorant people.
Lee
SDown38935
Grumann is certainly a Cadillac ) has a niche in canoeing that only it can
fill. There are places I take my aluminum barges that I wouldn't dream of
takin any other boat. O course, the Kevlar, Royalex, and Graphite have their
place as well. Would I take my Kevlar racing boat down a shallow rocky stream?
Certainly not, but that doesnt diminish its value. Likewise, I would not try
to paddle a marathon in a Grumann. I believe, that like a set of golf clubs,
their is a canoe for each specific need. Think of the Grumann as an old and
faithful putter.
As for value, that boat new was about $500 if bought in the last ten
years, and could be had on the market for $200 if in good shape. I would
encourage them to donate it to the local Boyscout council and take the tax
write off - you never know, a young Bill Mason may be waiting to earn his
Canoeing merit badge at Scout camp this summer.
riverman
>
> I will say again, as I have said before, the aluminum boat ( and of those,
> Grumann is certainly a Cadillac ) has a niche in canoeing that only it can
> fill. There are places I take my aluminum barges that I wouldn't dream of
> takin any other boat.
Not to sound elitist, but the only 2 reasons I can come up with for
owning a Grummanalumminum are:
1) Inherited it with that old summer camp in the woods
2) plan on filling it with dirt to make a boat anchor some day.
Name one situation where a dentable, rock-eating, noisy, creaseable,
pant-tearing-riveted, clanky gunnel Grumman is preferable over even the
most *common* of canoes, the (gasp) $150 Coleman Green Beast.
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Andrew Gooding
>
> Big Water in a Storm.
>
> Lyle
>
> In article <3674BA...@sorry.com>, "delete.z's"
> <zmy...@zamerican.hasharon.k12.il> wrote:
> >SDown38935 wrote:
> >Name one situation where a dentable, rock-eating, noisy, creaseable,
> >pant-tearing-riveted, clanky gunnel Grumman is preferable over even the
> >most *common* of canoes, the (gasp) $150 Coleman Green Beast.
> >
> >
> >
The Grumman is faster, more stable and more abrasion resistant than the
Coleman. Any flatwater trip I would take it over the tupperware with
struts in a heartbeat. It's not a good whitewater canoe and doesn't
"feel good", but for everything else it is far better.
Oh, and if you plan to park it outside all winter, it will be fine in
the spring, while the plastic boats may crack.
And yes, you are elitist. I now paddle primarily kevlar foam core
boats, but I still have happy memories of paddling my dad's 1940 circa
Grumman (which he still has). Those were built to last!
Moses
> Name one situation where a dentable, rock-eating, noisy, creaseable,
> pant-tearing-riveted, clanky gunnel Grumman is preferable over even the
> most *common* of canoes, the (gasp) $150 Coleman Green Beast.
Doesn't the Grumman at least paddle a little better?
-shane, moses
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boat that is a big part of canoe history. Some people had to start
with these boats since that is all that there was. They are probably
great paddlers too, since they can make any boat perform at it's best.
Do you get rid of everything that you own that is slightly out of date
or not state of the art? If so, you are losing much. It may not be
the fastest boat on the water, and I don't currently own one, but if I
found one cheap I would grab it for the sake of having one.
Everything should not be disposed of because of technological
advances. Sometimes you have to consider the idea that this old hunk
of aluminum has more than dents and dings. It has a history.
On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:38:07 GMT, lyle...@cgocable.net (Lyle
Fairfield) wrote:
>Big Water in a Storm.
>
>Lyle
>
>In article <3674BA...@sorry.com>, "delete.z's"
><zmy...@zamerican.hasharon.k12.il> wrote:
>>SDown38935 wrote:
>>>
>>> I will say again, as I have said before, the aluminum boat ( and of those,
>>> Grumann is certainly a Cadillac ) has a niche in canoeing that only it can
>>> fill. There are places I take my aluminum barges that I wouldn't dream of
>>> takin any other boat.
>>(snip)
>>
>>Not to sound elitist, but the only 2 reasons I can come up with for
>>owning a Grummanalumminum are:
>>1) Inherited it with that old summer camp in the woods
>>2) plan on filling it with dirt to make a boat anchor some day.
>>
>>Name one situation where a dentable, rock-eating, noisy, creaseable,
>>pant-tearing-riveted, clanky gunnel Grumman is preferable over even the
>>most *common* of canoes, the (gasp) $150 Coleman Green Beast.
>>
>>
>>
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Lyle Fairfield
person who lives here (my wife) and I'd have a chance of getting it onto the
property ... no, not because it's a Grumman ... because it would be number
six.
Lyle
In article <36758c92...@news.boi.hp.com>, patrick@cyberhighwaydotnet
wrote:
Gary Pagac
>riverman wrote:
>> Name one situation where a dentable, rock-eating, noisy, creaseable,
>> pant-tearing-riveted, clanky gunnel Grumman is preferable over even the
>> most *common* of canoes, the (gasp) $150 Coleman Green Beast.
They are more durable.
If i came across a Grumman at a good price, i'd be likely to buy it.
Though i admit since i fish, i'd rather have a plastic, aka quieter,
boat.
SDown38935
these "dentable beasts". As it lays in the yard even now, each and every
crease and dent tells a story of an event on a river with one of my son's, a
good friend,or my wife. In fact, when I bought the Grumann, Kevlar, Royalex,
and Graphite didn't even exist. I have several friends today who started into
the sport with a garage sale Grumann. They may have stepped up into a more
high tech boat since, but those old boats were a big part of canoeing becoming
the sport it is today. I would encourage anyone who thought they might want to
try the sport to buy such a used Grumann. I have taught numerous BSA Canoe
Merit Badge courses and find that they readily take the abuse, and offer the
boys a sense of stability that lets them learn confidence, and enjoy the
experience.
Additionally, I would add, that till you've portaged a 2 miler with a
Grumann, you havent portaged! (The lightweight, of course)
riverman
>
> The situation where you enjoy it for what it is, and enjoy paddling a
> boat that is a big part of canoe history. Some people had to start
> with these boats since that is all that there was. They are probably
> great paddlers too, since they can make any boat perform at it's best.
> Do you get rid of everything that you own that is slightly out of date
> or not state of the art? If so, you are losing much. It may not be
> found one cheap I would grab it for the sake of having one.
> advances. Sometimes you have to consider the idea that this old hunk
> of aluminum has more than dents and dings. It has a history.
>
Well, I must admit that all the posts are well taken. IF someone has no
other boat, then a Grumminalumminum is certainly better than no boat!
And if someone has only a choice between a Grumman and a Coleman, then I
still think the Grumman is a better choice, for no other reason than the
type of person that would invite you over to their camp for a beer. And
if I had a summer cottage, I'd love to have a Grumman in the yard just
for the classic boat ambiance. But as a viable choice for a *paddling*
boat, in todays market, assuming that a representative selection of
other boats are available, Grummans are kinda clunkers. (and don;t get
me started on Colemans...)
No arguing that they are nice scrapbooks! Every rock and sandbar you
ever bumped is recorded on that ol' hull. Remember, you're talking to a
guy with a 25 year old 17-A as his only boat....
But, OTOH, if I ever saw a 1970's Grumman in MINT condition, no dents or
anything, I'd probably pay up to $250 or $300 for it, just for the
collectors itemness. But not as my *only* boat....
Roy D
age.
Roy D
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Me too. I'd love to pick up a 15 footer to leave at my lakefront.
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Nathan Taylor
>
> >I would take a Grumman over a Coleman anyday.
>
> Me too. I'd love to pick up a 15 footer to leave at my lakefront.
>
> - Mothra (aka Kathy Streletzky)
Why not start small and work up? May I suggest Wilko, at 6'8"?
:)
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