Bent Gunnel on a Old Town Scout

Pico

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Mar 31, 2002, 3:54:00 AM3/31/02

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I was in a car accident where the car rolled onto it's side with the Old
Town Scout on the roof top rack. the boat actually stopped us from
completely flipping although we are not 100% we would have flipped.

anyway, the damage to the boat is minimal but enough that i feel it needs to
be repaired one way or another. The damage consist of a 1-3 inch bend in
the center of the boat on the gunnel. no other damage to the boat other than
that but the handling of the boat should be compromised as a result of the
hull no longer being symetrical. i figure i can pound it out but I am not
exactly sure how precise that is going to be. i would like to get the gunnel
replaced. besides old town does anyone know of a canoe repair facility on
the east coast (somewhere within a 5 hour drive of NYC prefered). also does
anyone know how much something like this will run??? I contacted old town
and am waiting for a reply.

Thanks,

Justin

P Johnson

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Mar 31, 2002, 7:49:21 AM3/31/02

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replace your gunnel with a gunwale
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Gary S.

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Mar 31, 2002, 11:31:50 AM3/31/02

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Canoes used for whitewater occasionally experience similar damage,
including being wrapped around rocks, etc. One belonging to my college
outing club ended up this way (long story, but no one hurt). It was
repaired by removing the gunwale and riveting on a replacement one,
both both sides.

Contact an Old Town dealer in your area, especially one that does
rentals. They may be able to do the work in their shop, or at least
get you the replacement parts and instructions.

From what I remember talking to the guys who did it, it was not that
difficult, but warm weather was helpful in getting the boat back to
nearly its original shape. A power drill, rivet gun and a few hand
tools.

The boat and its materials are designed to be repairable, so you
should be able to restore yours as well. It will vary a bit depending
on the model you have.

www.oldtowncanoe.com will be helpful.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
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Pico

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Mar 31, 2002, 7:10:06 PM3/31/02

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difference between gunnel and gunwale? I used to use the term gunwale but I
have seen the term gunnel (hopefully spelled correctly) in many books and
articles? which is correct?? I assume they are different terms for the same
part of the boat, correct??

Thanks,

Justin
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Joe Pylka

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Mar 31, 2002, 8:21:41 PM3/31/02

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> difference between gunnel and gunwale? I used to use the term gunwale but
I
> have seen the term gunnel (hopefully spelled correctly) in many books and
> articles? which is correct?? I assume they are different terms for the
same
> part of the boat, correct??

Gunwale is correct.

My big Random House dictionary says Gunwale is the uppermost strake of a
boat... i.e. the top stiffening member.
It also says Gunnel is how it's pronounced, or else a kind of Blenny
(fish).

Gunwhale doesn't even show up.....

Joe P.

Gary S.

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Mar 31, 2002, 10:16:48 PM3/31/02

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On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 20:21:41 -0500, "Joe Pylka" <py...@castle.net>
wrote:

Merriam Webster online:

Main Entry: gun暈ale
Variant(s): also gun搖el /'g&-n&l/
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English gonne-wale, from gonne gun + 1wale; from its
former use as a support for guns
Date: 15th century
-the upper edge of a ship's or boat's side
- to the gunwales : as full as possible

Or literally, a wale is a horizontal board in a ship, the top one was
used to rest the guns on.

Apparently both spellings are used, but gunwale is listed first. It's
an old word, from a time when spelling was far less standardized.

stevej

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Apr 3, 2002, 7:37:33 PM4/3/02

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Both are correct. Gun Wale, gunnwale gunwale gunnel.......all the same thing,
its the part of a ship that one shoots a cannon from. Gunnel is phonetic
corruption
of the term. Many nautical terms are this way. ie. forecastle= foc'sl.
Now here is a word. I wonder if anyone can define this...Wulegessis....let alone

pronounce it. Any guesses?

Rich Johnson

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Apr 4, 2002, 6:08:52 PM4/4/02

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stevej wrote:
>
> Both are correct. Gun Wale, gunnwale gunwale gunnel.......all the same thing,
> its the part of a ship that one shoots a cannon from. Gunnel is phonetic
> corruption
> of the term. Many nautical terms are this way. ie. forecastle= foc'sl.
> Now here is a word. I wonder if anyone can define this...Wulegessis....let alone
>
> pronounce it. Any guesses?
>

Bottom of the page
http://www.civilization.ca/educat/oracle/modules/dkeenlyside/page02_e.html#boat
And no I can't pronounce it

Rich
Enfield NS
Canada

Benson Gray

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Apr 4, 2002, 9:01:44 PM4/4/02

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I can't pronounce "Wulegessis" but you might be interested to also know
"that these pieces were called, figuratively, 'diaper' or 'breechcloth' by
the Penobscots at Indian Island" according to page 61 of Frank G. Speck's
book "Penobscot Man" (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1940).
You can find this quoted at http://www.wcha.org/tidbits/penobscot/ in a
footnote of the "Canoe from the Penobscot River" article from 1948 by
Wendell S. Hadlock and Ernest S. Dodge on the Wooden Canoe Heritage
Association web site.

Benson Gray, Webmaster
Wooden Canoe Heritage Association
http://www.wcha.org/

stevej

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Apr 7, 2002, 8:47:19 PM4/7/02

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Thank You,
That is a very interesting page you refered me to.