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Simpson Lawrtence Windlass Chain Stripper

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Pete Baldwin

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Jul 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/9/96
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I have a manual one-speed Simpson Lawrence windlass with a gypsy that
accommadates 3/8 chain. When I hall in my anchor the chain does not feed
off the gypsy properly. It tends to wrap around and jam past the haws
pipe. I heard that I need to install a chain stripper. The chain I'm
using is definitely 3/8. Any thoughts, ideas or solutions?

Pete


bo...@dircon.co.uk

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Jul 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/9/96
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gic...@lainet.com (Pete Baldwin) wrote:

Pete.

I assume you bought CALLIBRATED 3/8 chain. otherwise the windlass has
a fault.


"Does anyone know where the love of God goes,
when the waves turn the minutes to hours".

Gordon Lightfoot


C. A. La Varre

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Jul 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/10/96
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Pete Baldwin wrote:
>I have a manual one-speed Simpson Lawrence windlass with a gypsy that
>accommadates 3/8 chain. When I hall in my anchor the chain does not feed
>off the gypsy properly. It tends to wrap around and jam past the haws
>pipe.
Mine used to do that, but that was because the hawsepipe was just a leetle
too tight, and the chain was new. I've found that as both have worn ever
so slightly the problem no longer exists until I put out enough chain for
some relatively unused links to be in the game.

>I heard that I need to install a chain stripper. The chain I'm
>using is definitely 3/8. Any thoughts, ideas or solutions?

Examined the chain? If the galvanization is a little rough then it
confirms the above. The part that runs smoothly is indeed smooth, although
still quite galvanized. The rougher finish (we're talking mils here) jams
up.

I just keep my shoes on and give it a light kick when it jams, which is
enough to have it go on down the pipe. You might take a bar and flare out
the hawsepipe a bit if you really want to *do* something.

Andy La Varre
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Igor Kapuscinski

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Jul 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/10/96
to Pete Baldwin

Pete,
If you do not have a stripper then it is a cause of your
problem. On my windless it is nothing else than a vertical post
installed right after the pipe opening.

Igor

Pete Baldwin wrote:
>
> I have a manual one-speed Simpson Lawrence windlass with a gypsy that
> accommadates 3/8 chain. When I hall in my anchor the chain does not feed
> off the gypsy properly. It tends to wrap around and jam past the haws

> pipe. I heard that I need to install a chain stripper. The chain I'm


> using is definitely 3/8. Any thoughts, ideas or solutions?
>

> Pete

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Nancy/Carl Hunt

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Jul 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/11/96
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In article <4rtmsc$q...@lainet2.lainet.com> gic...@lainet.com (Pete Baldwin) writes:
>From: gic...@lainet.com (Pete Baldwin)
>Subject: Simpson Lawrtence Windlass Chain Stripper
>Date: 9 Jul 1996 13:29:48 GMT

>I have a manual one-speed Simpson Lawrence windlass with a gypsy that
>accommadates 3/8 chain. When I hall in my anchor the chain does not feed
>off the gypsy properly. It tends to wrap around and jam past the haws
>pipe. I heard that I need to install a chain stripper. The chain I'm
>using is definitely 3/8. Any thoughts, ideas or solutions?

>Pete

Not all 3/8 chain is the same. The lengths are different for different types
of chain so that your specific chain, 3/8 BBB, 3/8 proof coil or 3/8 high
test, needs to be matched with your gypsy or visa versa. Also, the chain may
need to fall a minimum distance. Check you Simpson Lawrence manual to make
sure you have adequate fall.

Carl

Terry Palmer

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Jul 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/12/96
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Sounds like the gypsy may not be the right size -- could it be 5/16ths
vice 3/8ths???

My SL-555 has a stripper.

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07/12/96 13:02
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Bob Young

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Jul 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/13/96
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nan...@usa.net (Nancy/Carl Hunt) wrote:

>In article <4rtmsc$q...@lainet2.lainet.com> gic...@lainet.com (Pete Baldwin) writes:

>>I have a manual one-speed Simpson Lawrence windlass with a gypsy that
>>accommadates 3/8 chain. When I hall in my anchor the chain does not feed
>>off the gypsy properly. It tends to wrap around and jam past the haws
>>pipe. I heard that I need to install a chain stripper. The chain I'm
>>using is definitely 3/8. Any thoughts, ideas or solutions?

I have the two-speed version, and have had similar problems. Just
yesterday I was standing by my boat and chatting with the owner of the
boat in the next slip, who arrived recently. He has the identical
windlass, and noticed that mine does not have a chain stripper. I
walked over and looked at his, and saw a bolt through the baseplate
under the gypsy, projecting upward far enough to strip the chain.
Then I looked at mine again, and sure enough, there is a hole right
there, but no bolt! So, my next project is to remove the windlass and
put in a 1/2" S/S bolt, which unfortunately has to be inserted from
below. It seems some windlasses have this bolt installed , and others
do not. If there is no hole, you could drill one and tap it.

Bob


Paul Mathews

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Jul 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/13/96
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Bob Young wrote:
.... a bolt through the baseplate
> under the gypsy, projecting upward far enough to strip the chain...... which unfortunately has to be inserted from
> below. ....


Mine had a piece of SS bar stock, ground to a wedge on the upper end,
and without any head. There should be a set-screw on the side of the
windlass baseplate to hold it in place. If so, you may be able to
install from the top if you saw off the bolt head.

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Paul Mathews

Cadela

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Jul 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/14/96
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Pete,
The Gypsy comes in different sizes even 3/8 Proof or 3/8 BBB may take a
different gypsy. You can call Simpson L. to see if you have the correct
gypsy for your 3/8 chain if you know if its Proof or BBB or whatever. We
have a Simpson L. too with a 3/8 BBB chain and it works but it would work
better with a chain stripper. We still haven't found one, but getting
ready to put in a piece of thread-all underneath the gypsy to see if it
will do the job.
Happy sailing S/V Cadela

Paul Sears

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96
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My 555 has a stripper too, but it often gets jammed with the new
5/16" Hi Test i put in this winter. This chain is supposed to
work in the same gypsy as the 3/8" proof which used to be there
and used to work ok.

The stripper is SS round stock, ground to a wedge at the top and
help in place with a press fit and set screw. Perhaps i have the
wedge in the wrong orientation. Or maybe the gpsy does not
actually handle both 3/8 proof or 5/16 HT.

break break

On a related note, how do people keep water from going down the
hawse pipe when there is chain in it?

tnx,
paul

Igor Kapuscinski

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96
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Paul Sears wrote:
>
> Terry Palmer wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like the gypsy may not be the right size -- could it be 5/16ths
> > vice 3/8ths???
> >
> > My SL-555 has a stripper.
> >
> > --
> > Terry Palmer 10363...@compuserve.com
> > 07/12/96 13:02
> > ---------
> > Using: OUI TE 1.5 from http://www.dvorak.com
>
> My 555 has a stripper too, but it often gets jammed with the new
> 5/16" Hi Test i put in this winter. This chain is supposed to
> work in the same gypsy as the 3/8" proof which used to be there
> and used to work ok.
>
> The stripper is SS round stock, ground to a wedge at the top and
> help in place with a press fit and set screw. Perhaps i have the
> wedge in the wrong orientation. Or maybe the gpsy does not
> actually handle both 3/8 proof or 5/16 HT.
>


On my 555 I use 3/8 BBB and it doesn't jam. I have a stripper. It is
propably the gypsy that is causing your problem.

> break break
>
> On a related note, how do people keep water from going down the
> hawse pipe when there is chain in it?


I find the easiest way to keep water out of my hawse pipe is to use
a play dough, the one children use. It easily molds to the chain shape
and if you loose it, it is not a big deal (inexpensive). It does not
stick to a chain, too.

>
> tnx,
> paul

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Olly or Nightfox

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
to Paul Sears

Paul Sears wrote:
>
> Terry Palmer wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like the gypsy may not be the right size -- could it be 5/16ths
> > vice 3/8ths???
> >
> > My SL-555 has a stripper.
> >
> > --
> > Terry Palmer 10363...@compuserve.com
> > 07/12/96 13:02
> > ---------
> > Using: OUI TE 1.5 from http://www.dvorak.com
>
> My 555 has a stripper too, but it often gets jammed with the new
> 5/16" Hi Test i put in this winter. This chain is supposed to
> work in the same gypsy as the 3/8" proof which used to be there
> and used to work ok.
>
> The stripper is SS round stock, ground to a wedge at the top and
> help in place with a press fit and set screw. Perhaps i have the
> wedge in the wrong orientation. Or maybe the gpsy does not
> actually handle both 3/8 proof or 5/16 HT.
>
> break break
>
> On a related note, how do people keep water from going down the
> hawse pipe when there is chain in it?
>
> tnx,
> paul

They don't. Thats why the chain locker has a drain.
Cheers
Oliver Fleming

Terry Palmer

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Jul 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/18/96
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>> > On a related note, how do people keep water from going down the
> hawse pipe when there is chain in it? <<
>> I find the easiest way to keep water out of my hawse pipe is to use
a play dough, the one children use. It easily molds to the chain shape
a <<

A GREAT idea. I happen to have bronze covers with a hole on the side
where the chain exits on my Island Trader Motorsailer.

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Terry Palmer 10363...@compuserve.com
07/17/96 20:03
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Using: OUI PRO 1.5.0.2 from http://www.dvorak.com

Terry Palmer

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Jul 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/18/96
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>> > On a related note, how do people keep water from going down the
> hawse pipe when there is chain in it? <<
>> I find the easiest way to keep water out of my hawse pipe is to use
a play dough, the one children use. It easily molds to the chain shape
a <<

A GREAT idea. I happen to have bronze covers with a hole on the side
where the chain exits on my Island Trader Motorsailer.

--
Terry Palmer 10363...@compuserve.com
07/17/96 21:08

Tim Margeson

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Jul 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/18/96
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In article <31EC2C...@mars.nettrek.net.au>, ofle...@mars.nettrek.net.au
says...

>> Terry Palmer wrote:
>> My 555 has a stripper too, but it often gets jammed with the new
>> 5/16" Hi Test i put in this winter. This chain is supposed to
>> work in the same gypsy as the 3/8" proof which used to be there
>> and used to work ok.
>>
>> The stripper is SS round stock, ground to a wedge at the top and
>> help in place with a press fit and set screw. Perhaps i have the
>> wedge in the wrong orientation. Or maybe the gpsy does not
>> actually handle both 3/8 proof or 5/16 HT.
>> paul

You should call Simpson Lawrance and ask them about your gypsy to be sure, but
if I recall correctly the following is true:

If it has 6 cogs, it is for bigger chain, like your 3/8" Proof which is very
long compared to 5/16" HT.

If it has 7 cogs, then it will work for 5/16" HT/BBB or 1/4" Proof.

Tim Margeson
timo...@pacifier.com
S/V Eridani


Alvaro HIDALGO

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Jul 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/19/96
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Hello,

* I use 3/8" and I扉e got no problems.
* I would also like to now how can you avoid water to come in through
your hose pipe when you have the chain in...

Regards,

Alvaro HIDALGO

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