Suggestions: Compac vs O'Day ????
Sailing432
Hello,
I am looking for feedback on O' Day vs Compac. I live in midwest and
trailer sail, currently with an O' Day 17' day sailor. I'm interested in
moving up and have been considering buying used 22 or 23 ft O'Day or a 23
ft Compac. I would prefer a shoal keel, I'm not sure if O' Day ever made
them??? Any suggestions on these would very appreciated!! Also are the
masts tough to step - 2 man job ???
Thank you
Neil Simms
In article <19970305031...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
I owned an O'Day 222 (the latest model 22 they produced before
going under).
I liked it - reasonably quick and well mannered (for lake/coastal
sailing). I would say it takes 2 to raise the mast, one to help
get it into place (something even a small person could do), and
the other to do the raising (which requires a person of moderate
strength). An alternative is to rig a boom of some sort forward,
and winch it up, though I've never tried this.
The boat's shoal keel was great - 18" draft, with a centerboard
to help you go to windward decently. The sole is flat - the board
retracts into the keel, but does not impinge on the cabin.
You should be able to find a mid-80's model for under $5K.
Cheers,
Neil S.
Cal 33 GEMMA
Beaufort, NC
jack chalais
Joe Wortham wrote:
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> saili...@aol.com (Sailing432) wrote:
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> > Hello,
> > I am looking for feedback on O' Day vs Compac. I live in midwest and
> > trailer sail, currently with an O' Day 17' day sailor. I'm interested in
> > moving up and have been considering buying used 22 or 23 ft O'Day or a 23
> > ft Compac. I would prefer a shoal keel, I'm not sure if O' Day ever made
> > them??? Any suggestions on these would very appreciated!! Also are the
> > masts tough to step - 2 man job ???
> >
> > Thank you
>
> "gallows" on which to rest the mast when you are raising and lowering it.
> I built mine out of 3/4 inch copper tubing and fittings.
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> To lower the mast, one closes and secures the cabin cover and rest the
> "gallows" on the seating area adjacent to the cabin. There are molded
> drains in the seats that act as restraints for the gallows base. Then,
> attaching the main sheet block to the plate to which the forestay is
> attached, and to the jib halyard, you have the means for controlling
> the mast as it is lowered or raised. Release the front side stay,
> remove the pin from the tabernacle, release the forestay and lower away.
>
> At about 30 degrees one loses the mechanical advantage of the block and
> needs the gallows to maintain control. When the mast is resting on the
> gallows, let go of the main sheet, remove the mast from the gallows and
> continue lowering it by hand.
>
> To raise the mast, you essentially reverse the process. To raise the
> mast to the level of the gallows, simply place the mast on your shoulder,
> and walk it forward until it is at the height of the gallows and rest
> it there. Then haul away on the main sheet until the mast is upright,
> secure all, starting with the forestay, replace the pin in the tabernacle
> and reattach the shrouds.
>
> While I don't recommend doing this in a strong wind, I have done it
> with no problems.
>
> joe w
Joe... sound like a pretty good system. Add one thing. A gyn pole and
you'll maintain mechanical advantage all the way down.
Jack
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Joe Wortham
Greg Jackson
Sailing432 wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am looking for feedback on O' Day vs Compac. I live in midwest and
> trailer sail, currently with an O' Day 17' day sailor. I'm interested in
> moving up and have been considering buying used 22 or 23 ft O'Day or a 23
> ft Compac. I would prefer a shoal keel, I'm not sure if O' Day ever made
> them??? Any suggestions on these would very appreciated!! Also are the
> masts tough to step - 2 man job ???
>
> Thank you
The O'Day 22 was shoal keel, similar to the Compac, the O'Day 23 was
shoal keel with centerboard. Do not confuse the shoal keel w/
centerboard with a swing keel. The swing keel boats have a great deal
of weight that hangs on a cable. The centerboard in the O'Day is not
weighted, it is only to improve the geometry and does not effect the
righting moment. I had an O'Day 23 for a while and found it to be an
excellent boat. People would tell me that it would head up better due
to the centerboard, but sailing alongside of the O'Day 22 I found it
made no difference. The added lift of the centerboard simply made up
for the reduced lift of its shorter shoal keel. Since the Compac has a
pretty long shoal keel, similar to the O'Day, I would expect little
difference in the ability upwind for any of those three boats. The
biggest effect of the centerboard was its ability to stop rolling going
downwind in a confused sea. Without it, I would roll all over the
place. It was not only uncomfortable, it invited surprise jybes.
I had roller furling on the 23', which required 2 or 3 people to help
with the rigging. Without a furling system, I think you should count on
either 2 people or some well proven mechanical contrivences. I have
seen people drop masts during rigging. It is dangerous to people,
boats, and neighboring cars. Please be careful, it can really ruin
somebody's day if you screw up.
Greg Jackson
jac...@itis.com
Darrell Abed
Check out the Com-Pac Yacht Owners Association at
http://www2.dgsys.com/~jeffries There is a members list, you can contact
them for any particulars about their boats.
Darrell
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