Scenic overload
Frogwatch
is I reach "scenic overload" where pretty things become mundane, "just
another beautiful vista". My mind can hold only so many of these
before I have to go home and recharge my desire for more. Anybody
else have this issue?
Sjouke Burry
Wilbur Hubbard
news:19feafc9-eec9-4937...@j32g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
I don't have that problem. The reason being: there are way too many totally
ugly and ineptly-sailed boats in sight daily that it wants to make be barf
because they are so cluttered and lubberly maintained. Here is one good
example of which I speak.
http://islandtimepc.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/FlyingPig.JPG.w300h410.jpg
But, to be fair, Flying Pig does have one quite comely attribute: She's on
the right:
http://islandtimepc.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Lydia-Skip.jpg
I just have to wonder what the world's come to when a desirable woman like
that puts herself in such slovenly circumstances? If she would sail with me,
I would be happy to teach her what higher standards are all about.
Wilbur Hubbard
Jessica B
That looks like a bigger boat that what you have. Does that make a
difference, as far as comfort goes? I guess it depends on how far you
go. We're finally starting to get some warmer weather out here and
hardly any fog, but it's still pretty cold at night. I have to take
some vacation time in warm weather, including at night!
--
jessi...@hush.com
<47 is special>
Wilbur Hubbard
news:q3toj6hmn2igamtuj...@4ax.com...
Does bigger necessarily mean better? Now, I realize that's a loaded question
to ask a woman <LOL> because I know where a woman's mind is much of the time
(especially prime-of-life, single, adventurous, 47-year-olds) but really!
What is with this bigger is better crap when it comes to a sailboat? Bigger
usually only means a bigger headache, bigger problems, bigger expense,
bigger aggravation, bigger nuisance, smaller cruising opportunities. People
who own big (over thirty-two feet) sailboats spend the majority of their
time working on them, fixing worn and broken parts and systems, etc. Those
of us who don't have eyes bigger than our stomachs are attracted to the
beauty and functionality of 'the right size'.
Most women understand that 'the right size' is better than bigger. And, the
right size used skillfully will bring more enjoyment than some large, poorly
maintained and less than skillfully wielded instrument. Now, while a
27-footer is on the small size for a cruising couple, it can be very
suitable for that compatible couple who don't get on each other's nerves.
Smaller spaces are more conducive to enjoying a secure feeling and a safe
environment. Smaller spaces allow one to enjoy the larger spaces outside by
virtue of reduced maintenance requirements. Shallower draft allows greater
freedom to sail shallow areas where more of that outside space is private.
Who needs the inconsiderate crowds of the 'bigger is better' sycophants?
Me, I'd take a comely, compatible lass (5'4" or so, slim and fit) in a small
boat over some greedy harridan in a huge luxury yacht any time. A high
maintenance large yacht AND a high maintenance, trophy woman is a recipe for
a very unfulfilling life.
Just had another cold front blow through last night. Was 50 degrees outside
this morning. It's warmed up to 67 degrees now with sunny skies. Wind has
come down to 10-15 knots now as opposed to 25-35 knots last night. But, last
night was a great night to snuggle in the v-berth with that somebody special
who could cook a good breakfast in the morning.
Wilbur Hubbard
Mark Borgerson
wilbur...@thefarm.invallid says...
Based on my experience with cruising sailboats from 24' to 35', there
isn't all that much difference in the required systems. At each end
of the range, you need one engine, one stove, one depth sounder and
one head. You also need two or three sails and an effective reefing
system. Perhaps I'm biased because my experience with the 35' end
of the range is with charter boats, where the KISS principle seems
well entrenched. The 35' sailboats I've chartered weren't burdened
with electric heads, microwave ovens, televisions, air conditioning,
radars, etc. etc.
I bought a 24' fiberglass cruising boat in 1974, and spent a whole
summer working on it and cruising. I don't think my ratio of work
to cruise would have changed had the boat grown by 8 feet. What happens
with larger boats is that the owners generally have more money to
add gadgets. It's not the size of the boat that is the problem, it's
the depth of the wallet! That wallet would have limited me just as
much had my boat magically grown by 8 feet.
The same thing happens with houses----the bigger the house, the more
space you have to accumulate junk.
<<SNIP non-boating content>>
>
> Just had another cold front blow through last night. Was 50 degrees outside
> this morning. It's warmed up to 67 degrees now with sunny skies. Wind has
> come down to 10-15 knots now as opposed to 25-35 knots last night. But, last
> night was a great night to snuggle in the v-berth with that somebody special
> who could cook a good breakfast in the morning.
>
>
Mark Borgerson
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
You're totally right. Bigger isn't better... well... never mind. lol
When I get to the ripe old age of 47, I'm sure I'll know this. Are you
with someone who's 47? That part was a little confusing.
>
>What is with this bigger is better crap when it comes to a sailboat? Bigger
>usually only means a bigger headache, bigger problems, bigger expense,
>bigger aggravation, bigger nuisance, smaller cruising opportunities. People
>who own big (over thirty-two feet) sailboats spend the majority of their
>time working on them, fixing worn and broken parts and systems, etc. Those
>of us who don't have eyes bigger than our stomachs are attracted to the
>beauty and functionality of 'the right size'.
Definitely... the right size is important and cozy. I was thinking
that it would really limit where you can go, so I looked up the depths
of the nice places in Florida... they're all really shallow areas.
>Most women understand that 'the right size' is better than bigger. And, the
>right size used skillfully will bring more enjoyment than some large, poorly
>maintained and less than skillfully wielded instrument. Now, while a
>27-footer is on the small size for a cruising couple, it can be very
>suitable for that compatible couple who don't get on each other's nerves.
>Smaller spaces are more conducive to enjoying a secure feeling and a safe
>environment. Smaller spaces allow one to enjoy the larger spaces outside by
>virtue of reduced maintenance requirements. Shallower draft allows greater
>freedom to sail shallow areas where more of that outside space is private.
>Who needs the inconsiderate crowds of the 'bigger is better' sycophants?
I have a little apartment. It's maybe 1000 sq. ft. Two bedrooms so I
can have a computer office. It's plenty big. I don't have a lot of
stuff... never saw the need. I mean you just have to keep track of all
the stuff, dust it, clean it. Forget it!
You definitely have to get along with the other person. I know some
people and all they do is bicker. What's the point? Why are they even
together? Sometimes silence really IS golden.
>Me, I'd take a comely, compatible lass (5'4" or so, slim and fit) in a small
>boat over some greedy harridan in a huge luxury yacht any time. A high
>maintenance large yacht AND a high maintenance, trophy woman is a recipe for
>a very unfulfilling life.
My minimum requirements for a guy include healthy and fit. I can't
stand those muscle boys either. That's all they do is maintain their
muscles. I do a lot of bicycle riding, but I don't call myself a
cyclists... don't have all the fancy clothing, just some tights and a
helmet (for a crazy drivers).
>Just had another cold front blow through last night. Was 50 degrees outside
>this morning. It's warmed up to 67 degrees now with sunny skies. Wind has
>come down to 10-15 knots now as opposed to 25-35 knots last night. But, last
>night was a great night to snuggle in the v-berth with that somebody special
>who could cook a good breakfast in the morning.
I like weather 75 to about 90 during the day. Cooling off in the
evening is ok, but I like to take dips in the dark (is that actually
safe down your way?).
Ok, so a dumb question... if there are two people in a V berth, the
people have their heads on the wide part of the V right? Seems like
that would give you room to move around and also keep the other
person's feet warm if necessary. I can have cold feet and wear socks.
:-)
Breakfast... yeah! Does a boat your size have an oven top? I make a
mean omelet. I hope you're not a health nut when it comes to
ingredients. Sometimes sausage is appropriate. (Please no "jokes")
Gordon
Look at the post of Wed. Oct 8 on this blog. A real minimalist.
http://lucidsalt.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html
BTW This is a very interesting blog.
G
Wayne.B
> On 1/23/2011 3:44 PM, Mark Borgerson wrote:
>
>
>
> BTW This is a very interesting blog.
=============
We met a couple down in the Caribbean last year that had just finished
sailing around the world on a 35 footer. They claimed that it was
just the right size for two people, and that anything bigger would be
too difficult to handle in rough, windy conditions. Maybe so, but I
prefer heavily built 45 footers for a number of reasons.
Wayne.B
wrote:
> "Frogwatch" <ohara...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> news:19feafc9-eec9-4937...@j32g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I've realized one of my problems with cruising (or any long vacation)
> > is I reach "scenic overload" where pretty things become mundane, "just
> > another beautiful vista". My mind can hold only so many of these
> > before I have to go home and recharge my desire for more. Anybody
> > else have this issue?
>
> I don't have that problem. The reason being: there are way too many totally
> ugly and ineptly-sailed boats in sight daily that it wants to make be barf
> because they are so cluttered and lubberly maintained. Here is one good
> example of which I speak.
>
>
> But, to be fair, Flying Pig does have one quite comely attribute: She's on
> the right:
>
>
> I just have to wonder what the world's come to when a desirable woman like
> that puts herself in such slovenly circumstances? If she would sail with me,
> I would be happy to teach her what higher standards are all about.
>
I've been aboard the Flying Pig several times and it is a pretty good
boat for the kind of liveaboard cruising that they are doing. It
would be easy to argue little nits here and there but that's mostly a
matter of personal taste. By the way, Lydia seems perfectly happy
with Skip, the FP, and the life style.
Wilbur Hubbard
You are so kool, Jessica. Tell me you aren't just some troll.
> When I get to the ripe old age of 47, I'm sure I'll know this. Are you
> with someone who's 47? That part was a little confusing.
jessi...@hush.com
<47 is special>
I had assumed you were 47 because of your sig. So what is the 47 referring
to?
>
>>
>>What is with this bigger is better crap when it comes to a sailboat?
>>Bigger
>>usually only means a bigger headache, bigger problems, bigger expense,
>>bigger aggravation, bigger nuisance, smaller cruising opportunities.
>>People
>>who own big (over thirty-two feet) sailboats spend the majority of their
>>time working on them, fixing worn and broken parts and systems, etc. Those
>>of us who don't have eyes bigger than our stomachs are attracted to the
>>beauty and functionality of 'the right size'.
>
> Definitely... the right size is important and cozy. I was thinking
> that it would really limit where you can go, so I looked up the depths
> of the nice places in Florida... they're all really shallow areas.
Indeed! The bigger boats lose out because of their extreme draft.
>>Most women understand that 'the right size' is better than bigger. And,
>>the
>>right size used skillfully will bring more enjoyment than some large,
>>poorly
>>maintained and less than skillfully wielded instrument. Now, while a
>>27-footer is on the small size for a cruising couple, it can be very
>>suitable for that compatible couple who don't get on each other's nerves.
>>Smaller spaces are more conducive to enjoying a secure feeling and a safe
>>environment. Smaller spaces allow one to enjoy the larger spaces outside
>>by
>>virtue of reduced maintenance requirements. Shallower draft allows greater
>>freedom to sail shallow areas where more of that outside space is private.
>>Who needs the inconsiderate crowds of the 'bigger is better' sycophants?
>
> I have a little apartment. It's maybe 1000 sq. ft. Two bedrooms so I
> can have a computer office. It's plenty big. I don't have a lot of
> stuff... never saw the need. I mean you just have to keep track of all
> the stuff, dust it, clean it. Forget it!
Wonderful attitude. You'd make some sailor an excellent mate.
> You definitely have to get along with the other person. I know some
> people and all they do is bicker. What's the point? Why are they even
> together? Sometimes silence really IS golden.
Agreed 100%. Oftentimes a bunch of constant jabbering is a sign of
insecurity and weakness. Myself, I am the strong silent type.
>
>>Me, I'd take a comely, compatible lass (5'4" or so, slim and fit) in a
>>small
>>boat over some greedy harridan in a huge luxury yacht any time. A high
>>maintenance large yacht AND a high maintenance, trophy woman is a recipe
>>for
>>a very unfulfilling life.
>
> My minimum requirements for a guy include healthy and fit. I can't
> stand those muscle boys either. That's all they do is maintain their
> muscles. I do a lot of bicycle riding, but I don't call myself a
> cyclists... don't have all the fancy clothing, just some tights and a
> helmet (for a crazy drivers).
That's me - healthy and fit. I keep fit racing my time trials bike. My best
10K time is 22m,42sec. Keep riding bicycles as nothing makes a woman's legs
and bottom look better. Definitely smart wearing a helmet as motorists have
no clue. Tights are good especially if they have the pad for the seat sewed
in. A good jersey is important, too. If you fall you need the scrape
protection on your shoulders especially.
>
>>Just had another cold front blow through last night. Was 50 degrees
>>outside
>>this morning. It's warmed up to 67 degrees now with sunny skies. Wind has
>>come down to 10-15 knots now as opposed to 25-35 knots last night. But,
>>last
>>night was a great night to snuggle in the v-berth with that somebody
>>special
>>who could cook a good breakfast in the morning.
>
> I like weather 75 to about 90 during the day. Cooling off in the
> evening is ok, but I like to take dips in the dark (is that actually
> safe down your way?).
Wow, you sound just perfect. Where I am there aren't any sharks except for
a nurse shark or two and they are timid. Unless you happen to step on one
they don't bother you. They are bottom feeders and mostly just lay around on
the bottom.
>
> Ok, so a dumb question... if there are two people in a V berth, the
> people have their heads on the wide part of the V right? Seems like
> that would give you room to move around and also keep the other
> person's feet warm if necessary. I can have cold feet and wear socks.
> :-)
Most women have cold feet. LOL! The v-berth is great for sleeping but not
so good for sex as there isn't a whole lot of room to spread one's legs.
Thats' why a 5'4" woman is the perfect size for 5'10" man and a 6"4" v-berth
because her feet don't go down far enough to get into the smaller angle at
the point where the man's feet end up.
>
> Breakfast... yeah! Does a boat your size have an oven top? I make a
> mean omelet. I hope you're not a health nut when it comes to
> ingredients. Sometimes sausage is appropriate. (Please no "jokes")
My little galley has a two-burner stove top but no oven. Mean omlettes are
most excellent for breakfast. When it comes to food, I eat just about
anything. Not the least bit particular. Onions, garlic, green peppers,
cheese in omlettes are all very tastey. I love a good cup of espresso in the
morning with creamer and honey.
Wilbur Hubbard
Wilbur Hubbard
news:f33f631d-21e6-4eee...@d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
=============[REPLY]=============
Pssst! Don't tell Skippy but I think he's an OK kind of d00d. I just like
to rag his crotch from time to time. LOL! (And, Lydia seems to be quite a
catch - for a geezer like Skippy)
Wilbur Hubbard
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
I'm way better looking. lol Sorry... no, I'm not a troll. Does someone
here do that?
>
>> When I get to the ripe old age of 47, I'm sure I'll know this. Are you
>> with someone who's 47? That part was a little confusing.
>
>jessi...@hush.com
><47 is special>
>
>I had assumed you were 47 because of your sig. So what is the 47 referring
>to?
It's from a proof that all numbers are equal to it. It's a college
thing.
As long as I don't have to do the heavy lifting, I can do most things
with good instructions. I went sailing on a friend's Catalina 30 last
summer and got to crack up the sail, which was a lot of work, but fun.
>> You definitely have to get along with the other person. I know some
>> people and all they do is bicker. What's the point? Why are they even
>> together? Sometimes silence really IS golden.
>
>
>Agreed 100%. Oftentimes a bunch of constant jabbering is a sign of
>insecurity and weakness. Myself, I am the strong silent type.
Hopefully not totally silent. :)
>>
>>>Me, I'd take a comely, compatible lass (5'4" or so, slim and fit) in a
>>>small
>>>boat over some greedy harridan in a huge luxury yacht any time. A high
>>>maintenance large yacht AND a high maintenance, trophy woman is a recipe
>>>for
>>>a very unfulfilling life.
>>
>> My minimum requirements for a guy include healthy and fit. I can't
>> stand those muscle boys either. That's all they do is maintain their
>> muscles. I do a lot of bicycle riding, but I don't call myself a
>> cyclists... don't have all the fancy clothing, just some tights and a
>> helmet (for a crazy drivers).
>
>
>That's me - healthy and fit. I keep fit racing my time trials bike. My best
>10K time is 22m,42sec. Keep riding bicycles as nothing makes a woman's legs
>and bottom look better. Definitely smart wearing a helmet as motorists have
>no clue. Tights are good especially if they have the pad for the seat sewed
>in. A good jersey is important, too. If you fall you need the scrape
>protection on your shoulders especially.
I don't time myself... just ride to work out the stress. Definitely
padded! Definitely! I usually don't wear much of jersey, due to the
warm temps in the summer. I've had a few scrapes... all due to the
fricken drivers. They don't even look! When I was little, I broke my
clavicle from a fall. If you've never done that, I don't recommend it.
>
>>
>>>Just had another cold front blow through last night. Was 50 degrees
>>>outside
>>>this morning. It's warmed up to 67 degrees now with sunny skies. Wind has
>>>come down to 10-15 knots now as opposed to 25-35 knots last night. But,
>>>last
>>>night was a great night to snuggle in the v-berth with that somebody
>>>special
>>>who could cook a good breakfast in the morning.
>>
>> I like weather 75 to about 90 during the day. Cooling off in the
>> evening is ok, but I like to take dips in the dark (is that actually
>> safe down your way?).
>
>Wow, you sound just perfect. Where I am there aren't any sharks except for
>a nurse shark or two and they are timid. Unless you happen to step on one
>they don't bother you. They are bottom feeders and mostly just lay around on
>the bottom.
Definitely not perfect... however, I won't go into that aspect of my
personality. lol I probably should have studied more in college, but I
was on an athletic scholarship.
I'm not terrified of sharks. I just don't want to be stupid about it.
>> Ok, so a dumb question... if there are two people in a V berth, the
>> people have their heads on the wide part of the V right? Seems like
>> that would give you room to move around and also keep the other
>> person's feet warm if necessary. I can have cold feet and wear socks.
>> :-)
>
>
>Most women have cold feet. LOL! The v-berth is great for sleeping but not
>so good for sex as there isn't a whole lot of room to spread one's legs.
>Thats' why a 5'4" woman is the perfect size for 5'10" man and a 6"4" v-berth
>because her feet don't go down far enough to get into the smaller angle at
>the point where the man's feet end up.
>
Well, I'm not going to comment about room for sex.
Like I said, I'm not perfect... at least according to your
requirements. I'm 5'5". BUMMER!
>>
>> Breakfast... yeah! Does a boat your size have an oven top? I make a
>> mean omelet. I hope you're not a health nut when it comes to
>> ingredients. Sometimes sausage is appropriate. (Please no "jokes")
>
>My little galley has a two-burner stove top but no oven. Mean omlettes are
>most excellent for breakfast. When it comes to food, I eat just about
>anything. Not the least bit particular. Onions, garlic, green peppers,
>cheese in omlettes are all very tastey. I love a good cup of espresso in the
>morning with creamer and honey.
Stove top... yeah, sorry. Don't know much about boat equipment names.
You can put a frying pan on it right? That'd work. I use minced
garlic.. not the cloves. Makes for a more even taste. Gotta have
coffee. That's a minimum requirement, or you wouldn't want to know me.
I have a Barista I got second hand. Took it apart and cleaned it and
it works fine.
>
>
>Wilbur Hubbard
>
Real name? Or are you a character from Beyond the Poseidon Adventure?
CaveLamb
Here is a REAL sailor babe (and her friend)
on a REAL around the world cruise!
Jessica B
wrote:
Do they have a washing machine on the boat?
CaveLamb
Doesn't look like she wears much...
--
Richard Lamb
email me: cave...@earthlink.net
web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
Jessica B
wrote:
>Jessica B wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:00:16 -0600, CaveLamb <cave...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ok, e-nuff foolishness...
>>>
>>> Here is a REAL sailor babe (and her friend)
>>> on a REAL around the world cruise!
>>>
>>> http://sailingaroundtheglobe.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Do they have a washing machine on the boat?
>
>
>
>Doesn't look like she wears much...
So, it looks like Wil had the right idea.
CaveLamb
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:24:28 -0600, CaveLamb <cave...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Jessica B wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:00:16 -0600, CaveLamb <cave...@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ok, e-nuff foolishness...
>>>>
>>>> Here is a REAL sailor babe (and her friend)
>>>> on a REAL around the world cruise!
>>>>
>>>> http://sailingaroundtheglobe.blogspot.com/
>>> Do they have a washing machine on the boat?
>>
>>
>> Doesn't look like she wears much...
>
> So, it looks like Wil had the right idea.
No, you don't keep a woman like that happy if you stink.
And I'm NOT gonna wear salt encrusted undies!
Frogwatch
> > wrote:
>
> >> Jessica B wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:00:16 -0600, CaveLamb <cavel...@earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> ok, e-nuff foolishness...
>
> >>>> Here is a REAL sailor babe (and her friend)
> >>>> on a REAL around the world cruise!
>
> >>>>http://sailingaroundtheglobe.blogspot.com/
> >>> Do they have a washing machine on the boat?
>
> >> Doesn't look like she wears much...
>
> > So, it looks like Wil had the right idea.
>
> No, you don't keep a woman like that happy if you stink.
>
> And I'm NOT gonna wear salt encrusted undies!
>
> --
>
> Richard Lamb
> web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
My 28' S2 is old but long ago paid for. I sail in a somewhat spartan
manner cuz I like things simple. This means a porta-potti, no hot
water, a magma grill as my only stove, only a single 12V outlet for
power and no outboard for the dink. Still, I consider "Ragtime" to be
luxurious compared to the primitive camping I have done. At 28', she
is cheap to operate and simple to keep up and normally cheap to keep
in a slip. I can easily single hand her and fix anything aboard her
and can do all the bottom painting etc myself. Anything bigger would
simply be too much trouble.
I can do a lot of cruising on a 28' boat and in the bahamas I find she
is almost always the smallest boat in any harbor.
Wilbur Hubbard
news:fr6dnRT16rDj36PQ...@earthlink.com...
> Jessica B wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:00:16 -0600, CaveLamb <cave...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ok, e-nuff foolishness...
>>>
>>> Here is a REAL sailor babe (and her friend)
>>> on a REAL around the world cruise!
>>>
>>> http://sailingaroundtheglobe.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Do they have a washing machine on the boat?
>
>
>
> Doesn't look like she wears much...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lCzLNZV_wsI/TTcXrvsblGI/AAAAAAAABDw/wG-wvUyeXJg/s1600/IMG_5236.jpg
Wow! Very nice body but she should cut her hair. Long hair is dangerous on a
sailing yacht. Get it caught in a winch and it can be VERY painful.
Wilbur Hubbard
Wilbur Hubbard
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:13:46 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>>You are so kool, Jessica. Tell me you aren't just some troll.
>
> I'm way better looking. lol Sorry... no, I'm not a troll. Does someone
> here do that?
All the time. I wouldn't put it past one of these dweebs to sock up as a
woman just to try to get my goat.
>>I had assumed you were 47 because of your sig. So what is the 47 referring
>>to?
>
> It's from a proof that all numbers are equal to it. It's a college
> thing.
You ARE young. Just a baby. LOL!
>>Wonderful attitude. You'd make some sailor an excellent mate.
>
> As long as I don't have to do the heavy lifting, I can do most things
> with good instructions. I went sailing on a friend's Catalina 30 last
> summer and got to crack up the sail, which was a lot of work, but fun.
Catalina 30 is a nice boat. It shouldn't be hard to raise the mainsail if
the captain has the good sense to have the boat pointing into the wind. If
not it can be a strain.
>>Agreed 100%. Oftentimes a bunch of constant jabbering is a sign of
>>insecurity and weakness. Myself, I am the strong silent type.
>
> Hopefully not totally silent. :)
Hardly. Can't you tell from how I go on and on when posting? ;-)
>
> I don't time myself... just ride to work out the stress. Definitely
> padded! Definitely! I usually don't wear much of jersey, due to the
> warm temps in the summer. I've had a few scrapes... all due to the
> fricken drivers. They don't even look! When I was little, I broke my
> clavicle from a fall. If you've never done that, I don't recommend it.
I've been down on the pavement more than once but have been lucky enough not
to break anything. Just bruises and road rash which is bad enough. There are
many inattentive drivers these days and getting to be more and more what
with the morons texting, etc. Here in Florida they run people over, cause
big multi-car wrecks and then they flee the scene. When the police catch up
with them they end up being illegal aliens, fugitives from justice,
suspended licenses for DUI's etc. They'll kill somebody and not even feel
remorse about it. I had some road-raging fool, after I flipped him off for
almost hitting me, stop up ahead of me (right in front of the Sheriff's
substation), jump out of his car and take a swing at me (I ducked). The cops
saw it all so they ran out, grabbed him, slammed him up against the trunk of
a squad car and cuffed him and stuffed him for assault. The moron had to
plead guilty and he paid a hefty fine and had to take anger management
classes. Sometimes there IS justice.
> Definitely not perfect... however, I won't go into that aspect of my
> personality. lol I probably should have studied more in college, but I
> was on an athletic scholarship.
What sport? Female athletes are hot!
> I'm not terrified of sharks. I just don't want to be stupid about it.
Smart to never underestimate a shark. They can and do kill people.
>>Most women have cold feet. LOL! The v-berth is great for sleeping but not
>>so good for sex as there isn't a whole lot of room to spread one's legs.
>>Thats' why a 5'4" woman is the perfect size for 5'10" man and a 6"4"
>>v-berth
>>because her feet don't go down far enough to get into the smaller angle at
>>the point where the man's feet end up.
>>
>
> Well, I'm not going to comment about room for sex.
:-(
> Like I said, I'm not perfect... at least according to your
> requirements. I'm 5'5". BUMMER!
I won't quibble about an inch or so if you don't either? LOL!
> Stove top... yeah, sorry. Don't know much about boat equipment names.
> You can put a frying pan on it right? That'd work. I use minced
> garlic.. not the cloves. Makes for a more even taste. Gotta have
> coffee. That's a minimum requirement, or you wouldn't want to know me.
> I have a Barista I got second hand. Took it apart and cleaned it and
> it works fine.
A nice stainless steel frying pan is my main cooking pan. I even cook
spaghetti in it. The frying pan definitely fits on the stove.
Don't know what a Barista is other than some d00d behind the counter in a
Starbucks. I use one of these things - the Venus model.
http://www.bialettishop.com/EspressoMakerMainPageStainlessSteel.htm
Only makes one mug at a time but it's delicious.
>
> Real name? Or are you a character from Beyond the Poseidon Adventure?
It's a nom de plume.
Wilbur Hubbard
Justin C
>
> Look at the post of Wed. Oct 8 on this blog. A real minimalist.
> http://lucidsalt.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html
>
> BTW This is a very interesting blog.
I've just read it all. Some of it doesn't encourage the cruising life at
all, while on, IIRC Madagascar, he and another solo cruiser were both
mugged, and the other guy lost, in addition to cash, two teeth.
Then there are the posts where he's advertising a glorified water-taxi
around the San Blas. These aren't what I'm looking for. He really seems
to find some of the least pleasant parts of cruising.
Also, I noticed, he doesn't seem to be able to stop. He's developed
itchy feet and after just a couple of days he's off again. One island he
passed en route to Brazil from South Africa, he sailed through the
anchorage and kept going! I really would have thought he'd have stopped
for a good night's sleep. Bit of an odd ball I'm sure.
Justin.
--
Justin C, by the sea.
Gordon
Like I said, "Interesting". Saw his ad on Craigslist where he's
asking 22K for the boat as soon as he gets back from the Galapagos Is.!
Being unable to stop reminds me of Bernard Moitessier.
Gordon
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>news:nj7sj6ltmtnigi0t8...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:13:46 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
>> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
><snip>
>
>>>You are so kool, Jessica. Tell me you aren't just some troll.
>>
>> I'm way better looking. lol Sorry... no, I'm not a troll. Does someone
>> here do that?
>
>All the time. I wouldn't put it past one of these dweebs to sock up as a
>woman just to try to get my goat.
>
>>>I had assumed you were 47 because of your sig. So what is the 47 referring
>>>to?
>>
>> It's from a proof that all numbers are equal to it. It's a college
>> thing.
>
>You ARE young. Just a baby. LOL!
Hey, watch it! :)
>>>Wonderful attitude. You'd make some sailor an excellent mate.
>>
>> As long as I don't have to do the heavy lifting, I can do most things
>> with good instructions. I went sailing on a friend's Catalina 30 last
>> summer and got to crack up the sail, which was a lot of work, but fun.
>
>Catalina 30 is a nice boat. It shouldn't be hard to raise the mainsail if
>the captain has the good sense to have the boat pointing into the wind. If
>not it can be a strain.
I think it was in the wind, but it was definitely hard to do. Those
little plastic cards that attach the main to the mast kept sticking.
It wasn't slapping around that much, so I don't know what to think. It
was a workout and finally someone had to finish the last few inches.
>>>Agreed 100%. Oftentimes a bunch of constant jabbering is a sign of
>>>insecurity and weakness. Myself, I am the strong silent type.
>>
>> Hopefully not totally silent. :)
>
>Hardly. Can't you tell from how I go on and on when posting? ;-)
Nooooo.... well, I think you're just trying to make your point.
>
>>
>> I don't time myself... just ride to work out the stress. Definitely
>> padded! Definitely! I usually don't wear much of jersey, due to the
>> warm temps in the summer. I've had a few scrapes... all due to the
>> fricken drivers. They don't even look! When I was little, I broke my
>> clavicle from a fall. If you've never done that, I don't recommend it.
>
>I've been down on the pavement more than once but have been lucky enough not
>to break anything. Just bruises and road rash which is bad enough. There are
>many inattentive drivers these days and getting to be more and more what
>with the morons texting, etc. Here in Florida they run people over, cause
>big multi-car wrecks and then they flee the scene. When the police catch up
>with them they end up being illegal aliens, fugitives from justice,
>suspended licenses for DUI's etc. They'll kill somebody and not even feel
>remorse about it. I had some road-raging fool, after I flipped him off for
>almost hitting me, stop up ahead of me (right in front of the Sheriff's
>substation), jump out of his car and take a swing at me (I ducked). The cops
>saw it all so they ran out, grabbed him, slammed him up against the trunk of
>a squad car and cuffed him and stuffed him for assault. The moron had to
>plead guilty and he paid a hefty fine and had to take anger management
>classes. Sometimes there IS justice.
I think they should shove those phones up people's rear ends.
>> Definitely not perfect... however, I won't go into that aspect of my
>> personality. lol I probably should have studied more in college, but I
>> was on an athletic scholarship.
>
>What sport? Female athletes are hot!
I ran track. Mostly sprints and relay.
>> I'm not terrified of sharks. I just don't want to be stupid about it.
>
>Smart to never underestimate a shark. They can and do kill people.
Especially the two-legged kind.
>>>Most women have cold feet. LOL! The v-berth is great for sleeping but not
>>>so good for sex as there isn't a whole lot of room to spread one's legs.
>>>Thats' why a 5'4" woman is the perfect size for 5'10" man and a 6"4"
>>>v-berth
>>>because her feet don't go down far enough to get into the smaller angle at
>>>the point where the man's feet end up.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I'm not going to comment about room for sex.
>
>:-(
>
>> Like I said, I'm not perfect... at least according to your
>> requirements. I'm 5'5". BUMMER!
>
>I won't quibble about an inch or so if you don't either? LOL!
Ok... also, I don't have particularly short hair... shoulder length.
lol
>
>> Stove top... yeah, sorry. Don't know much about boat equipment names.
>> You can put a frying pan on it right? That'd work. I use minced
>> garlic.. not the cloves. Makes for a more even taste. Gotta have
>> coffee. That's a minimum requirement, or you wouldn't want to know me.
>> I have a Barista I got second hand. Took it apart and cleaned it and
>> it works fine.
>
>A nice stainless steel frying pan is my main cooking pan. I even cook
>spaghetti in it. The frying pan definitely fits on the stove.
It's not the Teflon crap I hope. I think those are not worth it. Just
clean the fricken pan.
>Don't know what a Barista is other than some d00d behind the counter in a
>Starbucks. I use one of these things - the Venus model.
>
>http://www.bialettishop.com/EspressoMakerMainPageStainlessSteel.htm
>
>Only makes one mug at a time but it's delicious.
This is what I have only mine is green. I had to take it apart and fix
the pump. It was clogged and wouldn't really do much.
http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/consumer/starbucks_barista
>>
>> Real name? Or are you a character from Beyond the Poseidon Adventure?
>
>
>It's a nom de plume.
Ahh... ok.
CaveLamb
I seem to recall something like that happening on one of the around-the-
world races. The guy decidec not to finish and just kept on going...
--
Richard Lamb
CaveLamb
Yeah! That's the bloke!
Justin C
>
> Like I said, "Interesting". Saw his ad on Craigslist where he's
> asking 22K for the boat as soon as he gets back from the Galapagos Is.!
> Being unable to stop reminds me of Bernard Moitessier.
Yup, I see the resemblance. Not sure it's a good thing though, at some
point you surely have to get back into some kind of shore life, don't
you? I suppose heart attack on the boat could be a good way to go,
tiller pilot steering you away over the sea. But getting old and infirm
yet unwilling to stop has got to be really hard work and just too much.
Wilbur Hubbard
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:25:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>>You ARE young. Just a baby. LOL!
>
> Hey, watch it! :)
Love to! ;-)
<snip>
>>Catalina 30 is a nice boat. It shouldn't be hard to raise the mainsail if
>>the captain has the good sense to have the boat pointing into the wind. If
>>not it can be a strain.
>
> I think it was in the wind, but it was definitely hard to do. Those
> little plastic cards that attach the main to the mast kept sticking.
> It wasn't slapping around that much, so I don't know what to think. It
> was a workout and finally someone had to finish the last few inches.
It should go up easier than that. Probably needed the track on or in the
mast lubed with silicon. When into the wind the sail should slide up easily
and fall under it's own weight onto the boom if the slides are lubricated
well. I think you were the victim of a less than well-maintained system.
<snip>
>>
>>Hardly. Can't you tell from how I go on and on when posting? ;-)
>
> Nooooo.... well, I think you're just trying to make your point.
True, and if I have to heavily describe something from time to time it's
mostly because of the many pretend sailors around here who can't understand
what I'm talking about if I don't embellish somewhat. . .
<snip>
>
> I think they should shove those phones up people's rear ends.
There in California most of them would probably enjoy it, especially if the
ringtone was on vibrate. LOL!
>>What sport? Female athletes are hot!
>
> I ran track. Mostly sprints and relay.
Impressive! Female track athletes are hot. I love the body type so much.
Nothing's more sexy and functional. You should try some competitive cycling.
I bet you'd do very well after a year or so training.
<snip>
>
> Ok... also, I don't have particularly short hair... shoulder length.
> lol
That can be cured with scissors. Something like this is very sexy and
functional for sailing. Uses less fresh water to keep it clean and doesn't
get snagged in the equipment.
http://www.girlznight.co.uk/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tom-brophy-model-1-192x290.jpg
<snip>
>>A nice stainless steel frying pan is my main cooking pan. I even cook
>>spaghetti in it. The frying pan definitely fits on the stove.
>
> It's not the Teflon crap I hope. I think those are not worth it. Just
> clean the fricken pan.
Heck no! Teflon always scrapes or flakes off. Bare polished stainless steel
is the only way to go on a boat. A little butter and salt to season it and
things don't stick at all. Mine would work great for omlettes as the bottom
is quite thick so hotspots don't develop.
>
>>Don't know what a Barista is other than some d00d behind the counter in a
>>Starbucks. I use one of these things - the Venus model.
>>
>>http://www.bialettishop.com/EspressoMakerMainPageStainlessSteel.htm
>>
>>Only makes one mug at a time but it's delicious.
>
> This is what I have only mine is green. I had to take it apart and fix
> the pump. It was clogged and wouldn't really do much.
>
> http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/consumer/starbucks_barista
A mechanic, too! I think I'm in love. LOL! That's a professional unit, looks
like to me. Must have the capacity to make lots of espresso.
Wilbur Hubbard
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>news:jk8vj6h8475sg5747...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:25:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
>> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
><snip>
>
>>>You ARE young. Just a baby. LOL!
>>
>> Hey, watch it! :)
>
>
>Love to! ;-)
Funny guy....
>
><snip>
>
>>>Catalina 30 is a nice boat. It shouldn't be hard to raise the mainsail if
>>>the captain has the good sense to have the boat pointing into the wind. If
>>>not it can be a strain.
>>
>> I think it was in the wind, but it was definitely hard to do. Those
>> little plastic cards that attach the main to the mast kept sticking.
>> It wasn't slapping around that much, so I don't know what to think. It
>> was a workout and finally someone had to finish the last few inches.
>
>It should go up easier than that. Probably needed the track on or in the
>mast lubed with silicon. When into the wind the sail should slide up easily
>and fall under it's own weight onto the boom if the slides are lubricated
>well. I think you were the victim of a less than well-maintained system.
It definitely wasn't easy. I'm a total wimp and it was a workout. I
actually had breakfast (no, not like that) with him today, and asked
him why it was so hard (oh jeez... no, not like that either), and he
said he couldn't really remember, but probably he wasn't pointed right
(cripes... it never ends with the puns does it)? Never really got a
good explanation of that.
><snip>
>
>>>
>>>Hardly. Can't you tell from how I go on and on when posting? ;-)
>>
>> Nooooo.... well, I think you're just trying to make your point.
>
>
>True, and if I have to heavily describe something from time to time it's
>mostly because of the many pretend sailors around here who can't understand
>what I'm talking about if I don't embellish somewhat. . .
I don't know... your comments seemed to make sense to me. Of course, I
don't know diddly about sailing.
><snip>
>
>>
>> I think they should shove those phones up people's rear ends.
>
>There in California most of them would probably enjoy it, especially if the
>ringtone was on vibrate. LOL!
Maybe they could shove their screaming kids up there with the phones.
They're either yakking on the phone or trying to control some
screaming child. I know my parents wouldn't put up with that for very
long.
>>>What sport? Female athletes are hot!
>>
>> I ran track. Mostly sprints and relay.
>
>
>Impressive! Female track athletes are hot. I love the body type so much.
>Nothing's more sexy and functional. You should try some competitive cycling.
>I bet you'd do very well after a year or so training.
I think I'm in decent shape.... still. Again.. definitely not perfect
and the cinnabons beckon mercilessly. :) I need to keep up on the
sit-ups.
><snip>
>
>>
>> Ok... also, I don't have particularly short hair... shoulder length.
>> lol
>
>That can be cured with scissors. Something like this is very sexy and
>functional for sailing. Uses less fresh water to keep it clean and doesn't
>get snagged in the equipment.
>
>http://www.girlznight.co.uk/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tom-brophy-model-1-192x290.jpg
That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
five years ago.
Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
taken by a photographer.
http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg
>
><snip>
>
>
>>>A nice stainless steel frying pan is my main cooking pan. I even cook
>>>spaghetti in it. The frying pan definitely fits on the stove.
>>
>> It's not the Teflon crap I hope. I think those are not worth it. Just
>> clean the fricken pan.
>
>Heck no! Teflon always scrapes or flakes off. Bare polished stainless steel
>is the only way to go on a boat. A little butter and salt to season it and
>things don't stick at all. Mine would work great for omlettes as the bottom
>is quite thick so hotspots don't develop.
One kind I really like to use is cast iron. You don't have to clean it
much (never soap!). You get really nice flavor. It's also good with
hot spots if you have uneven heat. An ex of mine turned me on to that.
He used to lug a small one backpacking even.
>>
>>>Don't know what a Barista is other than some d00d behind the counter in a
>>>Starbucks. I use one of these things - the Venus model.
>>>
>>>http://www.bialettishop.com/EspressoMakerMainPageStainlessSteel.htm
>>>
>>>Only makes one mug at a time but it's delicious.
>>
>> This is what I have only mine is green. I had to take it apart and fix
>> the pump. It was clogged and wouldn't really do much.
>>
>> http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/consumer/starbucks_barista
>
>
>A mechanic, too! I think I'm in love. LOL! That's a professional unit, looks
>like to me. Must have the capacity to make lots of espresso.
Not really... the new ones are wildly expensive, but I got mine for
$25 at a garage sale. He said for parts, but let me plug it in to see
what would happen and it ran. I think he never cleaned it out. Well,
not a mechanic... it was just seemed obvious that it was something
simple. (Confession: I had to borrow a neighbor's tool kit with the
promise of replacing anything I broke. I don't really own any tools.)
It makes two cups at a time as far as coffee capacity, but there's
enough water for about six cups. It only takes a minute to put in more
coffee.
Wilbur Hubbard
<snip>
>
> It definitely wasn't easy. I'm a total wimp and it was a workout. I
> actually had breakfast (no, not like that) with him today, and asked
> him why it was so hard (oh jeez... no, not like that either), and he
> said he couldn't really remember, but probably he wasn't pointed right
> (cripes... it never ends with the puns does it)? Never really got a
> good explanation of that.
>
LOL! Now, it's my turn to say, "funny girl". Sometimes I think you are a guy
pretending to be a girl because you generally think so much more clearly
than a lot of girls but that "wasn't pointed right" pun is something no guy
would think of. Only a girl (on the receiving end) would be likely to have
heard that. ROFLOL!
<snip>
>
> I don't know... your comments seemed to make sense to me. Of course, I
> don't know diddly about sailing.
You might not have the experience but you sure have the insight and common
sense. You seem to know more about sailing than Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok
dock, does already. I guess, being an inspector, you are really aware of how
systems work and how they can malfunction if not properly built. That type
of spatial and physical relationship understanding is quite rare in a woman.
<snip>
>
> I think I'm in decent shape.... still. Again.. definitely not perfect
> and the cinnabons beckon mercilessly. :) I need to keep up on the
> sit-ups.
Sticky buns and coffee - heaven on Earth.
<snip>
> That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
> five years ago.
>
> Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
> taken by a photographer.
>
> http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg
An Elizabeth Hurley look-alike. Zoweeee! I'm in love . . .
> One kind I really like to use is cast iron. You don't have to clean it
> much (never soap!). You get really nice flavor. It's also good with
> hot spots if you have uneven heat. An ex of mine turned me on to that.
> He used to lug a small one backpacking even.
Cast iron is probably the best choice ashore but it tends to rust in the
salty air environment of a boat. I used to have a cast iron skillet but the
rust was just too much so I changed to stainless steel which doesn't rust at
all. I did get one with a nice thick bottom so hotspots are minimized.
<snip>
>
> Not really... the new ones are wildly expensive, but I got mine for
> $25 at a garage sale. He said for parts, but let me plug it in to see
> what would happen and it ran. I think he never cleaned it out. Well,
> not a mechanic... it was just seemed obvious that it was something
> simple. (Confession: I had to borrow a neighbor's tool kit with the
> promise of replacing anything I broke. I don't really own any tools.)
>
> It makes two cups at a time as far as coffee capacity, but there's
> enough water for about six cups. It only takes a minute to put in more
> coffee.
>
Does it use the very fine ground coffee beans? Do you grind your own beans?
I guess it makes all that froth, too??
Wilbur Hubbard
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>news:vf44k697pidu06nc5...@4ax.com...
><snip>
>
>>
>> It definitely wasn't easy. I'm a total wimp and it was a workout. I
>> actually had breakfast (no, not like that) with him today, and asked
>> him why it was so hard (oh jeez... no, not like that either), and he
>> said he couldn't really remember, but probably he wasn't pointed right
>> (cripes... it never ends with the puns does it)? Never really got a
>> good explanation of that.
>>
>
>LOL! Now, it's my turn to say, "funny girl". Sometimes I think you are a guy
>pretending to be a girl because you generally think so much more clearly
>than a lot of girls but that "wasn't pointed right" pun is something no guy
>would think of. Only a girl (on the receiving end) would be likely to have
>heard that. ROFLOL!
Well, if someone wants to believe I'm a guy, I guess they can if they
want. I do have two older brothers, so I had to measure up all the
time growing up. (Not again... another pun... yikes!)
>
><snip>
>
>>
>> I don't know... your comments seemed to make sense to me. Of course, I
>> don't know diddly about sailing.
>
>You might not have the experience but you sure have the insight and common
>sense. You seem to know more about sailing than Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok
>dock, does already. I guess, being an inspector, you are really aware of how
>systems work and how they can malfunction if not properly built. That type
>of spatial and physical relationship understanding is quite rare in a woman.
I think the thing that I'm always reviewing on the job is the
relationship between building codes... like electrical and plumbing.
We don't see a lot of problems with the commercial people on that
level, because they've been in the business a while and know the
issues. There are all kinds of levels of inspection for commercial
real estate.
For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
is when someone is upgrading or building, has pissed off a neighbor
and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.
><snip>
>
>>
>> I think I'm in decent shape.... still. Again.. definitely not perfect
>> and the cinnabons beckon mercilessly. :) I need to keep up on the
>> sit-ups.
>
>Sticky buns and coffee - heaven on Earth.
Yeah!! I thought you were going to berate me over the cinnabon thing.
lol
><snip>
>
>> That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
>> five years ago.
>>
>> Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
>> taken by a photographer.
>>
>> http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg
>
>
>An Elizabeth Hurley look-alike. Zoweeee! I'm in love . . .
God No! You really think I look like her?? I've never heard that line
before. lol
(I wouldn't have put up with Grant's philandering for 2 seconds, and I
certainly wouldn't still be his friend!)
>
>> One kind I really like to use is cast iron. You don't have to clean it
>> much (never soap!). You get really nice flavor. It's also good with
>> hot spots if you have uneven heat. An ex of mine turned me on to that.
>> He used to lug a small one backpacking even.
>
>
>Cast iron is probably the best choice ashore but it tends to rust in the
>salty air environment of a boat. I used to have a cast iron skillet but the
>rust was just too much so I changed to stainless steel which doesn't rust at
>all. I did get one with a nice thick bottom so hotspots are minimized.
Ahhh... ok. duhhh... You don't want to be continually scraping.
><snip>
>
>>
>> Not really... the new ones are wildly expensive, but I got mine for
>> $25 at a garage sale. He said for parts, but let me plug it in to see
>> what would happen and it ran. I think he never cleaned it out. Well,
>> not a mechanic... it was just seemed obvious that it was something
>> simple. (Confession: I had to borrow a neighbor's tool kit with the
>> promise of replacing anything I broke. I don't really own any tools.)
>>
>> It makes two cups at a time as far as coffee capacity, but there's
>> enough water for about six cups. It only takes a minute to put in more
>> coffee.
>>
>
>
>Does it use the very fine ground coffee beans? Do you grind your own beans?
>I guess it makes all that froth, too??
You can use ground beans from a bag or grind them yourself. I prefer
to do my own, but then I have to deal with the grinder... not a huge
hassle, but I end up grinding up a bunch of beans, then they sit for a
week, so I kinda gave up and just buy the bags of ground.
It definitely does the froth. Just depends on how deep the steam tube
sits in the milk. I'm pretty precise about the temp. They claim you
can go up to 180, but I think it tastes scorchy. I usually pour the
milk then use a spoon to grab the froth.
Wilbur Hubbard
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:52:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>>LOL! Now, it's my turn to say, "funny girl". Sometimes I think you are a
>>guy
>>pretending to be a girl because you generally think so much more clearly
>>than a lot of girls but that "wasn't pointed right" pun is something no
>>guy
>>would think of. Only a girl (on the receiving end) would be likely to have
>>heard that. ROFLOL!
>
> Well, if someone wants to believe I'm a guy, I guess they can if they
> want. I do have two older brothers, so I had to measure up all the
> time growing up. (Not again... another pun... yikes!)
Probably you have some Tomboy in you. But, the thing is there are people who
like to pretend to be girls when they post so they can get a guy on the
Usenet interested in them then they reveal they really are a guy and then
accuse anybody who was interested a faggot. This is the type of thing people
I beat handily via logical argument and facts as well as years of sailing
experience might indulge in to attempt revenge.
>>
>>You might not have the experience but you sure have the insight and common
>>sense. You seem to know more about sailing than Bruce, stuck at the
>>Bangkok
>>dock, does already. I guess, being an inspector, you are really aware of
>>how
>>systems work and how they can malfunction if not properly built. That type
>>of spatial and physical relationship understanding is quite rare in a
>>woman.
>
> I think the thing that I'm always reviewing on the job is the
> relationship between building codes... like electrical and plumbing.
> We don't see a lot of problems with the commercial people on that
> level, because they've been in the business a while and know the
> issues. There are all kinds of levels of inspection for commercial
> real estate.
Could it be that commercial people are more concerned with lawsuits if they
do something wrong and their insurance rates could go way up if they have a
lawsuit or two against them for negligence or malfeasance? Also, some
commercial contracts withhold the final payment(s) until the final
inspections are completed.
>
> For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
> is when someone is upgrading or building, has pissed off a neighbor
> and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
> place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
> doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
> the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
> tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
> trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
> 50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
> water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
> lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
> means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.
My friend with whom I do cycling training had an empty lot next door. The
contractor submitted plans which were approved by the code dept. But, when
they built the house (concrete block and poured concrete) they ignored the
setbacks and built a couple of wide balconies on the second story. The
balconies extended out to within a couple of feet of the property line which
is way past the setback requirement. They got red flagged. So what did they
do? The redrew the plans to include the wide balconies and submitted them
saying they were approved by the code dept. I guess they thought codes
didn't keep a copy of the originals on file. LOL! It looks like they are
going to have to tear down the balconies which is going to be a major
undertaking. Serves them right.
>>
>>Sticky buns and coffee - heaven on Earth.
>
> Yeah!! I thought you were going to berate me over the cinnabon thing.
> lol
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Besides athletes
need carbs.
>><snip>
>>
>>> That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
>>> five years ago.
>>>
>>> Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
>>> taken by a photographer.
>>>
>>> http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg
>>
>>
>>An Elizabeth Hurley look-alike. Zoweeee! I'm in love . . .
>
> God No! You really think I look like her?? I've never heard that line
> before. lol
I do. It's not a line. When I opened the link Hurley was the first thing I
thought of. Maybe it's the eyes. They have a hint of mischief in them.
> (I wouldn't have put up with Grant's philandering for 2 seconds, and I
> certainly wouldn't still be his friend!)
I don't know who Grant is but perhaps he's her hubby or ex? I don't keep up
with celebrity gossip at all.
<snip>
>
> You can use ground beans from a bag or grind them yourself. I prefer
> to do my own, but then I have to deal with the grinder... not a huge
> hassle, but I end up grinding up a bunch of beans, then they sit for a
> week, so I kinda gave up and just buy the bags of ground.
You just need to find yourself a drinking partner. ;-)
> It definitely does the froth. Just depends on how deep the steam tube
> sits in the milk. I'm pretty precise about the temp. They claim you
> can go up to 180, but I think it tastes scorchy. I usually pour the
> milk then use a spoon to grab the froth.
The Cubans around here are into cafe con lech� which is that same kind of
thing with the froth and really really strong on the caffeine and sugar. One
tiny cup = a mug of regular strength coffee.
Wilbur Hubbard
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>news:55m6k6tmh3bd44ak7...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:52:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
>> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
><snip>
>
>>>LOL! Now, it's my turn to say, "funny girl". Sometimes I think you are a
>>>guy
>>>pretending to be a girl because you generally think so much more clearly
>>>than a lot of girls but that "wasn't pointed right" pun is something no
>>>guy
>>>would think of. Only a girl (on the receiving end) would be likely to have
>>>heard that. ROFLOL!
>>
>> Well, if someone wants to believe I'm a guy, I guess they can if they
>> want. I do have two older brothers, so I had to measure up all the
>> time growing up. (Not again... another pun... yikes!)
>
>
>Probably you have some Tomboy in you. But, the thing is there are people who
>like to pretend to be girls when they post so they can get a guy on the
>Usenet interested in them then they reveal they really are a guy and then
>accuse anybody who was interested a faggot. This is the type of thing people
>I beat handily via logical argument and facts as well as years of sailing
>experience might indulge in to attempt revenge.
Yeah, I've heard that... lol. Well, look at what I do. There aren't
many of us who work in building departments!
People are petty. I try to avoid them if I run across them. It's just
not worth it.
>>>
>>>You might not have the experience but you sure have the insight and common
>>>sense. You seem to know more about sailing than Bruce, stuck at the
>>>Bangkok
>>>dock, does already. I guess, being an inspector, you are really aware of
>>>how
>>>systems work and how they can malfunction if not properly built. That type
>>>of spatial and physical relationship understanding is quite rare in a
>>>woman.
>>
>> I think the thing that I'm always reviewing on the job is the
>> relationship between building codes... like electrical and plumbing.
>> We don't see a lot of problems with the commercial people on that
>> level, because they've been in the business a while and know the
>> issues. There are all kinds of levels of inspection for commercial
>> real estate.
>
>Could it be that commercial people are more concerned with lawsuits if they
>do something wrong and their insurance rates could go way up if they have a
>lawsuit or two against them for negligence or malfeasance? Also, some
>commercial contracts withhold the final payment(s) until the final
>inspections are completed.
Absolutely true. Also, they've been around and know their stuff. We
hardly ever have a problem with a commercial builder. If we do, it's a
paperwork problem. I don't recall any actual safety issues, at least
not serious ones. There was one where the construction hat had a crack
in it. Apparently, some rebar fell on it and the guy never swapped it
out.
>>
>> For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
>> is when someone is upgrading or building, has pissed off a neighbor
>> and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
>> place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
>> doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
>> the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
>> tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
>> trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
>> 50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
>> water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
>> lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
>> means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.
>
>My friend with whom I do cycling training had an empty lot next door. The
>contractor submitted plans which were approved by the code dept. But, when
>they built the house (concrete block and poured concrete) they ignored the
>setbacks and built a couple of wide balconies on the second story. The
>balconies extended out to within a couple of feet of the property line which
>is way past the setback requirement. They got red flagged. So what did they
>do? The redrew the plans to include the wide balconies and submitted them
>saying they were approved by the code dept. I guess they thought codes
>didn't keep a copy of the originals on file. LOL! It looks like they are
>going to have to tear down the balconies which is going to be a major
>undertaking. Serves them right.
Ouch... bummer for them. But it sounds like they got what they paid
for.
>>>
>>>Sticky buns and coffee - heaven on Earth.
>>
>> Yeah!! I thought you were going to berate me over the cinnabon thing.
>> lol
>
>People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Besides athletes
>need carbs.
Excellent! I'm going to use that.
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>> That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
>>>> five years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
>>>> taken by a photographer.
>>>>
>>>> http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>An Elizabeth Hurley look-alike. Zoweeee! I'm in love . . .
>>
>> God No! You really think I look like her?? I've never heard that line
>> before. lol
>
>I do. It's not a line. When I opened the link Hurley was the first thing I
>thought of. Maybe it's the eyes. They have a hint of mischief in them.
Definitely mischief! (and don't give me any bs about __THAT__ not
being a line!)
>> (I wouldn't have put up with Grant's philandering for 2 seconds, and I
>> certainly wouldn't still be his friend!)
>
>I don't know who Grant is but perhaps he's her hubby or ex? I don't keep up
>with celebrity gossip at all.
Oh.. he was caught with a hooker in Oakland I think? All the while
professing his love to Hurley.
>
><snip>
>>
>> You can use ground beans from a bag or grind them yourself. I prefer
>> to do my own, but then I have to deal with the grinder... not a huge
>> hassle, but I end up grinding up a bunch of beans, then they sit for a
>> week, so I kinda gave up and just buy the bags of ground.
>
>You just need to find yourself a drinking partner. ;-)
Yeah, there are many who apply but few who are chosen!
>> It definitely does the froth. Just depends on how deep the steam tube
>> sits in the milk. I'm pretty precise about the temp. They claim you
>> can go up to 180, but I think it tastes scorchy. I usually pour the
>> milk then use a spoon to grab the froth.
>
>The Cubans around here are into cafe con leché which is that same kind of
Wilbur Hubbard
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:08:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I've heard that... lol. Well, look at what I do. There aren't
> many of us who work in building departments!
>
> People are petty. I try to avoid them if I run across them. It's just
> not worth it.
I agree! There are very few people around who are worth bothering with. Many
totally lack morals and ethics. Many are totally dishonest and manipulative
and rude and self-centered and . . . Don't get me started. LOL!
<snippage>
>>Could it be that commercial people are more concerned with lawsuits if
>>they
>>do something wrong and their insurance rates could go way up if they have
>>a
>>lawsuit or two against them for negligence or malfeasance? Also, some
>>commercial contracts withhold the final payment(s) until the final
>>inspections are completed.
>
> Absolutely true. Also, they've been around and know their stuff. We
> hardly ever have a problem with a commercial builder. If we do, it's a
> paperwork problem. I don't recall any actual safety issues, at least
> not serious ones. There was one where the construction hat had a crack
> in it. Apparently, some rebar fell on it and the guy never swapped it
> out.
That's relatively minor. I guess those guys generally take a little more
pride in their work because it's their profession while some amatuer builder
has it as a hobby or one-time thing to try to save some money. My training
partner is a builder and he had one subcontractor tell him to not do such a
good job - just do it fast and get it done. He told the contracter that he
was going to do it right or not at all. He doesn't do shoddy work. I like a
perfectionist like that. Slipshod work is sure nothing to be proud of and
there's more to a profession than just making money.
>>>
>>> For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
>>> is when someone is upgrading or building, has pissed off a neighbor
>>> and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
>>> place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
>>> doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
>>> the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
>>> tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
>>> trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
>>> 50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
>>> water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
>>> lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
>>> means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.
<snip>
>>People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Besides athletes
>>need carbs.
>
> Excellent! I'm going to use that.
You never heard that one before? I heard that from my dad half a century
ago. You ARE just a baby. LOL!
<snip>
>>I do. It's not a line. When I opened the link Hurley was the first thing I
>>thought of. Maybe it's the eyes. They have a hint of mischief in them.
>
> Definitely mischief! (and don't give me any bs about __THAT__ not
> being a line!)
It is not a line. Just an observation.
> Oh.. he was caught with a hooker in Oakland I think? All the while
> professing his love to Hurley.
OOPS! What an idiot. Another Tiger Woods! Why can't these morons keep it in
their pants?
<snip>
>>You just need to find yourself a drinking partner. ;-)
>
> Yeah, there are many who apply but few who are chosen!
LOL!
Wilbur Hubbard
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>news:vvhek615cu8k6u4ei...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:08:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
>> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
><snip>
>
>>
>> Yeah, I've heard that... lol. Well, look at what I do. There aren't
>> many of us who work in building departments!
>>
>> People are petty. I try to avoid them if I run across them. It's just
>> not worth it.
>
>I agree! There are very few people around who are worth bothering with. Many
>totally lack morals and ethics. Many are totally dishonest and manipulative
>and rude and self-centered and . . . Don't get me started. LOL!
I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
I don't want to be around them!
><snippage>
>
>>>Could it be that commercial people are more concerned with lawsuits if
>>>they
>>>do something wrong and their insurance rates could go way up if they have
>>>a
>>>lawsuit or two against them for negligence or malfeasance? Also, some
>>>commercial contracts withhold the final payment(s) until the final
>>>inspections are completed.
>>
>> Absolutely true. Also, they've been around and know their stuff. We
>> hardly ever have a problem with a commercial builder. If we do, it's a
>> paperwork problem. I don't recall any actual safety issues, at least
>> not serious ones. There was one where the construction hat had a crack
>> in it. Apparently, some rebar fell on it and the guy never swapped it
>> out.
>
>That's relatively minor. I guess those guys generally take a little more
>pride in their work because it's their profession while some amatuer builder
>has it as a hobby or one-time thing to try to save some money. My training
>partner is a builder and he had one subcontractor tell him to not do such a
>good job - just do it fast and get it done. He told the contracter that he
>was going to do it right or not at all. He doesn't do shoddy work. I like a
>perfectionist like that. Slipshod work is sure nothing to be proud of and
>there's more to a profession than just making money.
Whoa... that's sounds like a recipe for disaster when it comes to
construction. I know times are tough, but if you're working for
someone who deliberately tells you to do substandard work...
>
>>>>
>>>> For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
>>>> is when someone is upgrading or building, has pissed off a neighbor
>>>> and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
>>>> place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
>>>> doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
>>>> the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
>>>> tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
>>>> trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
>>>> 50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
>>>> water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
>>>> lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
>>>> means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.
><snip>
>
>>>People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Besides athletes
>>>need carbs.
>>
>> Excellent! I'm going to use that.
>
>You never heard that one before? I heard that from my dad half a century
>ago. You ARE just a baby. LOL!
Heh... I've never heard cinnibons equated with carbs quite that way!
I'm not that young.. really! But, keep saying it!
><snip>
>
>
>>>I do. It's not a line. When I opened the link Hurley was the first thing I
>>>thought of. Maybe it's the eyes. They have a hint of mischief in them.
>>
>> Definitely mischief! (and don't give me any bs about __THAT__ not
>> being a line!)
>
>It is not a line. Just an observation.
Well, observe away!!
Wilbur Hubbard
>
> I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
> moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
> I don't want to be around them!
Agreed! You have to have some kind of a firm moral and ethical foundation or
else you're nothing. You can't be trusted, relied upon or understood. . .
You've got to stand for something and be consistent about it. All this
flip-flopping is just less than human, IMO.
<snip>
>
> Whoa... that's sounds like a recipe for disaster when it comes to
> construction. I know times are tough, but if you're working for
> someone who deliberately tells you to do substandard work...
Some people worship the almighty dollar to the extent that even pride in
workmanship takes a back seat to the money. . .
>
<snip>
>
> Heh... I've never heard cinnibons equated with carbs quite that way!
> I'm not that young.. really! But, keep saying it!
Just a babe, just a babe, just a babe, just a babe. LOL!
<snip>
>>It is not a line. Just an observation.
>
> Well, observe away!!
Glady, but you need to come a little closer! ;-)
Wilbur Hubbard
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>news:iqahk69i32utilp20...@4ax.com...
>>
>> I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
>> moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
>> I don't want to be around them!
>
>Agreed! You have to have some kind of a firm moral and ethical foundation or
>else you're nothing. You can't be trusted, relied upon or understood. . .
>You've got to stand for something and be consistent about it. All this
>flip-flopping is just less than human, IMO.
Yeah, like the issue of bribes. I mean I was not really flattered when
that guy tried it. He supposed that I was the type of person who would
do that?
I'm a recovering Catholic, BTW. It was just too strange to be active
in that religion.
>>
>> Whoa... that's sounds like a recipe for disaster when it comes to
>> construction. I know times are tough, but if you're working for
>> someone who deliberately tells you to do substandard work...
>
>
>Some people worship the almighty dollar to the extent that even pride in
>workmanship takes a back seat to the money. . .
That works right up until someone sues you for your entire future
earnings.
>>
>> Heh... I've never heard cinnibons equated with carbs quite that way!
>> I'm not that young.. really! But, keep saying it!
>
>Just a babe, just a babe, just a babe, just a babe. LOL!
LOL!!
><snip>
>
>>>It is not a line. Just an observation.
>>
>> Well, observe away!!
>
>Glady, but you need to come a little closer! ;-)
Hmmm.... so, you must like girls in bikinis then? lol
Wilbur Hubbard
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:47:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>
>>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>>news:iqahk69i32utilp20...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
>>> moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
>>> I don't want to be around them!
>>
>>Agreed! You have to have some kind of a firm moral and ethical foundation
>>or
>>else you're nothing. You can't be trusted, relied upon or understood. . .
>>You've got to stand for something and be consistent about it. All this
>>flip-flopping is just less than human, IMO.
>
> Yeah, like the issue of bribes. I mean I was not really flattered when
> that guy tried it. He supposed that I was the type of person who would
> do that?
That is rather insulting, isn't it.
> I'm a recovering Catholic, BTW. It was just too strange to be active
> in that religion.
Me too! I sorta lost faith in the Catholic church when all the pedophile
priests came to light. I switched to protestand and when I go to church from
time to time I go to a Baptist church. But, I'm not really active. But, I do
like to live somewhat of a Christian life whenever I can.
<snip>
>>
>>>>It is not a line. Just an observation.
>>>
>>> Well, observe away!!
>>
>>Glady, but you need to come a little closer! ;-)
>
> Hmmm.... so, you must like girls in bikinis then? lol
What (straight) man wouldn't like such an alluring display? I say if you
got it, flaunt it.
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>news:sq5pk6dlth51k4dnu...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:47:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
>> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>>>news:iqahk69i32utilp20...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
>>>> moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
>>>> I don't want to be around them!
>>>
>>>Agreed! You have to have some kind of a firm moral and ethical foundation
>>>or
>>>else you're nothing. You can't be trusted, relied upon or understood. . .
>>>You've got to stand for something and be consistent about it. All this
>>>flip-flopping is just less than human, IMO.
>>
>> Yeah, like the issue of bribes. I mean I was not really flattered when
>> that guy tried it. He supposed that I was the type of person who would
>> do that?
>
>That is rather insulting, isn't it.
Yes, no sh*t.
>> I'm a recovering Catholic, BTW. It was just too strange to be active
>> in that religion.
>
>Me too! I sorta lost faith in the Catholic church when all the pedophile
>priests came to light. I switched to protestand and when I go to church from
>time to time I go to a Baptist church. But, I'm not really active. But, I do
>like to live somewhat of a Christian life whenever I can.
I believe in Christian values, but I don't get pumped up about church
or worship. Some of it seems so contrived.
><snip>
>
>>>
>>>>>It is not a line. Just an observation.
>>>>
>>>> Well, observe away!!
>>>
>>>Glady, but you need to come a little closer! ;-)
>>
>> Hmmm.... so, you must like girls in bikinis then? lol
>
>
>What (straight) man wouldn't like such an alluring display? I say if you
>got it, flaunt it.
>
>
Some of my friends REALLY have it. On some level it's depressing when
we go clubbing... they're hit on A LOT! :-)
Wilbur Hubbard
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:26:45 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, no sh*t.
>
>>> I'm a recovering Catholic, BTW. It was just too strange to be active
>>> in that religion.
>>
>>Me too! I sorta lost faith in the Catholic church when all the pedophile
>>priests came to light. I switched to protestand and when I go to church
>>from
>>time to time I go to a Baptist church. But, I'm not really active. But, I
>>do
>>like to live somewhat of a Christian life whenever I can.
>
> I believe in Christian values, but I don't get pumped up about church
> or worship. Some of it seems so contrived.
Agreed! Many of the churches seem to be more about themselves than helping
people to see the benefits of Christianity. Some spend millions on big,
fancy buildings for themselves and a pittance for outreach.
<snip>
>>
>>What (straight) man wouldn't like such an alluring display? I say if you
>>got it, flaunt it.
>>
>>
>
> Some of my friends REALLY have it. On some level it's depressing when
> we go clubbing... they're hit on A LOT! :-)
Pssstttt! There are way too many men fixated on large breasts. Most men I
know act like total idiots when they see an attractive woman with large
breasts. It's like all they see is that part of the female anatomy. I think
that's sooooo immature and dumb! Like a baby who has never been weaned. I
just can't see it. To me smaller breasts look way better as the entire body
looks to be more in proportion.
Wilbur Hubbard
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
I'm definitely proportional.. horizontally and vertically. :-) Men are
fairly simple to figure out. Like they don't think we notice when
they're talking to our chest??
Wilbur Hubbard
<snip>
>>Pssstttt! There are way too many men fixated on large breasts. Most men I
>>know act like total idiots when they see an attractive woman with large
>>breasts. It's like all they see is that part of the female anatomy. I
>>think
>>that's sooooo immature and dumb! Like a baby who has never been weaned. I
>>just can't see it. To me smaller breasts look way better as the entire
>>body
>>looks to be more in proportion.
>
> I'm definitely proportional.. horizontally and vertically. :-) Men are
> fairly simple to figure out. Like they don't think we notice when
> they're talking to our chest??
Women usually look more proportionally fetching when horizontally
positioned. LOL! But, you're right - your proportions appear to be
excellent.
Seriously, though, I'd rather look into a woman's eyes when talking than at
her chest. But, if she has nice pert breasts with erect nipples, then it
becomes almost impossible to not sneak a peek or two. Heck, I figure is she
isn't proud of her 'assets' she wouldn't be showing them off like that. :-)
I remember seeing a movie where the female star had sizable boobs and this
guy she was talking to just kept staring at her cleavage. She didn't seem to
let it bother her but she put her and down by her breasts, wiggled her
fingers and raised her hand to her face while saying, "Yoo-hoo, I'm up
here." It was very funny.
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>"Jessica B" <jessi...@hush.com> wrote in message
>news:nna6l6hrq7ohfcnaf...@4ax.com...
><snip>
>
>>>Pssstttt! There are way too many men fixated on large breasts. Most men I
>>>know act like total idiots when they see an attractive woman with large
>>>breasts. It's like all they see is that part of the female anatomy. I
>>>think
>>>that's sooooo immature and dumb! Like a baby who has never been weaned. I
>>>just can't see it. To me smaller breasts look way better as the entire
>>>body
>>>looks to be more in proportion.
>>
>> I'm definitely proportional.. horizontally and vertically. :-) Men are
>> fairly simple to figure out. Like they don't think we notice when
>> they're talking to our chest??
>
>
>
>Women usually look more proportionally fetching when horizontally
>positioned. LOL! But, you're right - your proportions appear to be
>excellent.
>
>Seriously, though, I'd rather look into a woman's eyes when talking than at
>her chest. But, if she has nice pert breasts with erect nipples, then it
>becomes almost impossible to not sneak a peek or two. Heck, I figure is she
>isn't proud of her 'assets' she wouldn't be showing them off like that. :-)
Just keep in mind that it's generally not a good idea to stare. I read
somewhere that men immediately check out the other guy's package when
they see another guy. Don't know if that's true.
>I remember seeing a movie where the female star had sizable boobs and this
>guy she was talking to just kept staring at her cleavage. She didn't seem to
>let it bother her but she put her and down by her breasts, wiggled her
>fingers and raised her hand to her face while saying, "Yoo-hoo, I'm up
>here." It was very funny.
>
Gutsy girl!
Bob
> fairly simple to figure out. Like they don't think we notice when
> they're talking to our
>chest??
Wilbur........ a more age accurate word choice is "them" or "girls" as
in: he was creepy stalky glaring at them. When if actually spent time
with younger girls yould have a better sense of how they talk. They
also tend to use the phrase; "doin it" for fucking. Its much more
tactful.
And dont for get to use the "ish" lavishly along with ample references
to "looking sexified."
YouTube Kesha or Katy Perry for other references
Your problme is your so old now that the all you know is the Valley
Girl Talk from the 80s and, OMG that is so 2000 n late!
Maybe then youll be less dense-ish
Bob
Bruce
wrote:
Very doubtful-ish.
Cheers,
Bruce
Wilbur Hubbard
news:5bb2371d-7f4f-49c0...@x4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Are you daft? I'm telling you, JessicaB is a real woman. So, you look pretty
lame trying to tell her how to type like a woman. Duh! And, JessicaB's not
some little teenybopper or some such. She's in her early to mid thirties
according to a recent post in this very group. IOW all grown up and haired
over.
Is Katy Perry that forensic computer research babe on the TV show about the
Navy crime investigation unit? If so, SHE's definitely hot in a kinky sort
of way. I've seen that show a few times in the hotel up in WPB were they
have bike time trials competition.
Wilbur Hubbard
Wilbur Hubbard
Staring at anybody is kind of anti-social behavior. I remember when I was a
kid my mother and father always said to the kids. "Don't stare, it's not
polite to state." Nowadays I can't recall the last time I heard a parent say
that to their staring children. . .
I never check out a guy's package. If I discover a guy looking at mine I
figure he might be gay. If I stare at anything on a woman it is usually her
rear end. Unless the woman has eyes in the back of her head, I figure I'll
never be caught. LOL!
CaveLamb
>
>
> Are you daft? I'm telling you, JessicaB is a real woman. So, you look pretty
> lame trying to tell her how to type like a woman. Duh! And, JessicaB's not
> some little teenybopper or some such. She's in her early to mid thirties
> according to a recent post in this very group. IOW all grown up and haired
> over.
>
> Is Katy Perry that forensic computer research babe on the TV show about the
> Navy crime investigation unit? If so, SHE's definitely hot in a kinky sort
> of way. I've seen that show a few times in the hotel up in WPB were they
> have bike time trials competition.
>
>
>
> Wilbur Hubbard
>
>
Problem is - nobody believes you... :)
Bruce
wrote:
>Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
>>
>>
>> Are you daft? I'm telling you, JessicaB is a real woman. So, you look pretty
>> lame trying to tell her how to type like a woman. Duh! And, JessicaB's not
>> some little teenybopper or some such. She's in her early to mid thirties
>> according to a recent post in this very group. IOW all grown up and haired
>> over.
>>
>> Is Katy Perry that forensic computer research babe on the TV show about the
>> Navy crime investigation unit? If so, SHE's definitely hot in a kinky sort
>> of way. I've seen that show a few times in the hotel up in WPB were they
>> have bike time trials competition.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wilbur Hubbard
>>
>>
>
>
>Problem is - nobody believes you... :)
A better question is - how would he know? Given his frequent tirades
about women it is likely that a little girl refused him the paste pot
way back in kindergarten and he has been avoiding them ever since.
Cheers,
Bruce
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
My parents told us that. When I was little I walked up to a guy with
only one leg and asked him what happened to it. He said he lost it in
the war (Vietnam I guess). He didn't seem to be bothered by the
question. I think I was 5 or 6. Then my father told me about how some
questions should be thought out and how they might bother people. Then
my brother called me a clod. :)
>I never check out a guy's package. If I discover a guy looking at mine I
>figure he might be gay. If I stare at anything on a woman it is usually her
>rear end. Unless the woman has eyes in the back of her head, I figure I'll
>never be caught. LOL!
Out here that would not be uncommon. Whatever. Ah, but we know anyway.
lol
Jessica B
wrote:
>> I'm definitely proportional.. horizontally and vertically. :-) Men are
OH MY GOD! You are so UPTIGHT. I wonder why....
Jessica B
Seriously... you don't have to keep reminding me that I'm in my 30s!!
Jessica B
wrote:
Umm.. he hasn't be avoiding me unlike some other people here.
Wilbur Hubbard
<snip>
>>
>>Are you daft? I'm telling you, JessicaB is a real woman. So, you look
>>pretty
>>lame trying to tell her how to type like a woman. Duh! And, JessicaB's
>>not
>>some little teenybopper or some such. She's in her early to mid thirties
>>according to a recent post in this very group. IOW all grown up and haired
>>over.
>>
>>Is Katy Perry that forensic computer research babe on the TV show about
>>the
>>Navy crime investigation unit? If so, SHE's definitely hot in a kinky sort
>>of way. I've seen that show a few times in the hotel up in WPB were they
>>have bike time trials competition.
>
> Seriously... you don't have to keep reminding me that I'm in my 30s!!
Sorry, I only WISH I was THAT young. But, seriously, you look even younger
than that in your pictures but I suppose those are not current on your
site??
Wilbur Hubbard
I think I like your brother. LOL!
>
>>I never check out a guy's package. If I discover a guy looking at mine I
>>figure he might be gay. If I stare at anything on a woman it is usually
>>her
>>rear end. Unless the woman has eyes in the back of her head, I figure I'll
>>never be caught. LOL!
>
> Out here that would not be uncommon. Whatever. Ah, but we know anyway.
> lol
Girls definitely like to show their 'stuff.'
Wilbur Hubbard
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
He's a good egg. I'll unhide his picture on myspace if you like.
>
>>
>>>I never check out a guy's package. If I discover a guy looking at mine I
>>>figure he might be gay. If I stare at anything on a woman it is usually
>>>her
>>>rear end. Unless the woman has eyes in the back of her head, I figure I'll
>>>never be caught. LOL!
>>
>> Out here that would not be uncommon. Whatever. Ah, but we know anyway.
>> lol
>
>Girls definitely like to show their 'stuff.'
Careful! You'll be accused of being me if you use "stuff".
Jessica B
I think there are two that are truly current (last couple of years),
so yes, I am what you see. Just kidding though... I'm happy to be the
age I am. I think it's a matter of feeling/acting young (not juvi) vs
acting like old and crotchety. In some ways Jimbo is like that, but
she's only a bit older.
Waldo
Judging by the growth rings (wink), I'd say you are, by far, the youngest of
the trio.
--
Waldo
Waldo
Wouldn't it be funny if you, wilber, harry, and nom de plume were all the
same person?
--
Waldo
Jessica B
Wouldn't it be nice if you found someone else who appreciated your odd
humor (or is it obsession?)?
Jessica B
That it truly a weird comment.
Wilbur Hubbard
It *was* weird. The only thing I could manage to come up with was perhaps he
was referring to y'all's chest measurements. That Jimbo does appear to have
sizable 'assets. ;-) She's probably the one who gets 'hit on' the most at
clubs because of it. (She has a pretty face, too.)
I'd be more drawn to that sexy, barely legal-looking, sweet young thing
vixen on Jimbo's right. . .
Wilbur Hubbard (laying it on thick, LOL!)
Jessica B
<wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
I didn't think of that... I thought he was talking about my height?
Whatever. J exudes pick-me-up-nowism, but doesn't flaunt it. Stace is
much more forward.
>I'd be more drawn to that sexy, barely legal-looking, sweet young thing
>vixen on Jimbo's right. . .
Heh.. hey, I'm not THAT young looking... I think she looks younger,
except for...
>Wilbur Hubbard (laying it on thick, LOL!)
Extra thick!
Wilbur Hubbard
<snip>
>>
>>It *was* weird. The only thing I could manage to come up with was perhaps
>>he
>>was referring to y'all's chest measurements. That Jimbo does appear to
>>have
>>sizable 'assets. ;-) She's probably the one who gets 'hit on' the most at
>>clubs because of it. (She has a pretty face, too.)
>
> I didn't think of that... I thought he was talking about my height?
> Whatever. J exudes pick-me-up-nowism, but doesn't flaunt it. Stace is
> much more forward.
>
>>I'd be more drawn to that sexy, barely legal-looking, sweet young thing
>>vixen on Jimbo's right. . .
>
> Heh.. hey, I'm not THAT young looking... I think she looks younger,
> except for...
What?
Jessica B
Heh... :-)