Pilothouse sail boats

[Rodger Carroll]

I think I'm looking for a pilothouse cruiser. We place comfort over
speed.
Please comment on the following.

Tanzer 10.5
Fisher 34, 37
Northeast 37
Corbin 39
Freedom 39
Naiticat 44
others ???

[Al Gunther]

In article <33ED29ED...@earthling.net>,

The only one of these I've been aboard is the Northeast 37. It's a
good
cocktail boat but the one I was on had too much space below and not
enough to hold on to for my likes to be a good boat in a seaway.

There is Crealock 32 Pilothouse that would get my vote of the
production boats. I'm building "Al's 26, a pilothouse sloop" as
designed for me by Scott Sprague, who designed several of the Hans
Christian's. I was not able to find anything else in this size that
I
liked.

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[bilgepump]

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bilgepump

This is only my opinion......

Many boats are called "pilothouses", but some of them are simply raised
saloons.

Personally, I think a cruising sailboat should have only a pilothouse, no
outside helm. Space is a premium on most boats, why waste it with two
steering stations? A pilot house also allows a chart table convenient to
the helm. Charts don't blow away, radios and electronics stay dry.......

Too many great places to visit that are not tropical. Rain, even in the
tropics, can be cold, and the sun can broil you almost anywhere.

[MITCH HART]

I missed the first part of this thread, but can heartily recommend the TAYANA 37 PILOTHOUSE. It is a true pilothouse sailboat (not a motor- sailer), with the same hull as the standard Tayana 37. While they have made over 600 Tayana 37's, I think it has been only about 20 Pilothouse models, The interior Navigation station and steering is great in snotty weather, the boat sails well (for a 22000 lb 37 ft boat...), and it makes a good live-aboard. The main drawback is that storage space is sacrificed in order to provide for the pilothouse. However, that just means that you cannot keep bringing STUFF aboard that you really don't need. While we would not trade "KOMFY" (an aptly named boat if ever there was) foe any other boat we have seen (except maybe a 60' DEERFOOT PILOTHOUSE, but not unless we win the lotto), the Pilothouse windows are probably the weakest point in the boat. We are currently having 1/2" lexan stormboards made to deal with the possibility BIG WAVES across the deck. You will occasionally see them for sail in the Pacific Northwest. Asking price for a mid 80's boat with some equipment ranges from the 80's to the low 100's. New they are going for about 160. Good luck if you are looking for one. Mitch on S/V KOMFY, San Diego "Beware of young surgeons and old barbers" (Ben Franklin)

[Bill Rohde]

We sail a Vancouver 32 PH Cutter (Bob Harris design, built at the Ta Yang
yard, the same yard as Tayana's are built, including the Tayana 37 PH
mentioned in another response). The Van 32 is out of production but
there are a few pilothouses around, mostly in the Pacific NW, but I think
2 on the east coast and one (ours) in the great lakes.

It's a fantastic boat. You don't have to sacrafice good sailing for
Pilothouse comfort. At our last yacht club race we took 1st corrected
and 2nd over the line! This weekend we just took ours from Bayfield WS
(Apostle Islands) to Duluth, MN, about 70 miles. After a Saturday night
stop in Port Wing we did the last 25 miles this morning under the chute
all the way. Great!

Others you should look at: Baba 41 PH Cutter (I see there are a couple
for sail in the back of the sailing rags right now), Cabo Rico 38 PH
Cutter, Shannon ~40 PH, Gulf 32, Pacific Seacraft's new 40 PH Cutter (see
picture in ad in current Ocean Navigator mag), H. T. Gozzard 40 (or is it
42??), Valiant 42 RS ... the list goes on. (note - you'll find that most
of these boats command above average prices -- it seems that most of the
pilothouses tend to be on the higher end of the quality, and cost,
spectrum)

I personally like to sail too much to opt for a motor sailor like
Nauticat, but to each his own. Nauticats, Fishers, and similar
pilothouse motorsailors tend to be very well built boats and certainly
serve their purpose well.

Nimbal (sp) builds a series of new, smaller, nitch pilothouse
motorsailors (some with outboards) you might want to look at too.

Bill, Superior Pilot, Vancouver 32 PH Cutter, Lk. Superior

[TCanfi7148]

I have been on Nauticats for several years and have found them to be
comfortable, but very hard to tack in light winds or large waves.

[Skip]

From a postcard from Jane Lovell, visiting Greenwich Maritime
Museum, near London:

On a cupola at the Royal Naval Observatory stands a pole with a
very large red ball. According to signs everywhere, this ball has
historically provided the accurate time and falls at"precisely" 1 PM
GMT.
By 12:50 I was in the courtyard, trying to figure how to set the
seconds to such precision on my digital watch. At 12:55 the red ball
began to slowly ascend the pole. At 12:59:50 the children in the crowd
began chanting "10-9-8.." At 1:00 PM a gun was fired in the Naval
College in the town below. But the red ball stayed resolutely atop the
pole. The children started another countdown. I kept resetting my
watch.
By 1:10, I began to think that we had all miscalculated, due to
Daylight Savings Time. At 1:12, I gave up and asked my colleague to
wait while I went to the loo. And wouldn't you know it, I missed all
the action.
According to my friend, at 1:13 a man in uniform crawled out a
window onto the roof, and delivered a swift kick to the red ball,which
then fell at"precisely" 1:13:23. So much for the accuracy of GMT!
I arrived back on the scene as the uniformed guard was returning to
his post. He cheerfully explained the mechanism had been broken for
sometime, and he has to periodically give the ball a "nudge."
Wish you had been there to see it. Wish I had been, too.

Skip
Wylie-27 "Wildflower"
Capitola, CA