Sand Cetol between coatings
robpe...@spammeiname.com
first coat, the surface looks pretty dull and uneven. Would it hurt
anything to polish or lightly sand this first coat before putting on
the second (after full drying of course). This is my first time with
any of these coatings.
Thanks, Rob
Joe Brant
Have you noticed that Cetol has a consistancy very near that of water? If
you use sandpaper, whatever work you have done will be gone. If you want
bright and shiny, forget Cetol, that's what varnish is for.
JB
Tom O'Meara
robpe...@SPAMMEiname.com wrote in message
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>The can says put 3 coats on, 24 hours drying in between. After the
>first coat, the surface looks pretty dull and uneven. Would it hurt
>anything to polish or lightly sand this first coat before putting on
>the second (after full drying of course). This is my first time with
>any of these coatings.
>Thanks, Rob
Don't know what you mean by "polish" Rob, but sanding between coats won't
hurt anything. Just don't get too vicious with the sandpaper and take off
too much of the coating. Film thickness is the key to longevity with these
products. It is very easy to oversand, especially near or on corners or
edges.
Fair Winds,
Tom
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robpe...@spammeiname.com
stay on a long time -- something varnish apparently won't do.
Thanks, Rob.
On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:13:47 -0500, Joe Brant <jbr...@highpoint.net>
wrote:
>robpe...@SPAMMEiname.com wrote:
>>
>> The can says put 3 coats on, 24 hours drying in between. After the
>> first coat, the surface looks pretty dull and uneven. Would it hurt
>> anything to polish or lightly sand this first coat before putting on
>> the second (after full drying of course). This is my first time with
>> any of these coatings.
>> Thanks, Rob
>
>
Mr. Look Good, Ride Slow
of Cetol on the wood. I think Cetol looks sort of dull anyway so that's the
price you pay for the other features of the product. Like everything in
boating there are tradeoffs. ease of application, low price, and relatively
good lifespan are the plusses. Low durability when scratched and dull finish
are the negatives.
Armond Perretta
> robpe...@SPAMMEiname.com wrote: ... The can says
>put 3 coats on, 24 hours drying in between. After the
>first coat, the surface looks pretty dull and uneven. Would it
>hurt anything to polish or lightly sand this first coat before
>putting on the second (after full drying of course). This is
>my first time with any of these coatings.
We use Armada which is quite similar to Cetol. The manufacturer
recommends that *any* sanding (and it's not always required) be
done with 3M 7447 pads. These are available at Home Depot, etc.
Our method is to clean up the wood and then apply 3 coats of
Armada before *any* sanding (with the 3M pads only) is done.
Then we apply the finish coats (plural). The finish looks quite
good and seems quite durable.
This procedure might be what you're looking for. As with varnish,
you're only going to get out what you put in, effort-wise. We haven't
found any worthwhile shortcuts.
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat (Remove BOAT)
Peggie Hall/Peal Products
>
> The can says put 3 coats on, 24 hours drying in between. After the
> first coat, the surface looks pretty dull and uneven. Would it hurt
> anything to polish or lightly sand this first coat before putting on
> the second (after full drying of course). This is my first time with
> any of these coatings.
I lightly buff with very fine bronze wool between coats. It won't add
any shine (Cetol is a satin, not a glossy, product), but it does remove
any bumps and bubbles. Always stir the can, don't shake it...use a real
brush, not foam. I also bronze wool it before re-applying another coat
in the spring...to remove any ground in dirt and smooth out any
scratches.
Cetol does make a clear glossy topcoat. I prefer the satin finish, so
I've never tried it...it gets mixed reviews.
Peggie
Giles Morris
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>robpe...@SPAMMEiname.com wrote:
>Always stir the can, don't shake it...
Aha! <Pause to slap self on forehead> THAT'S where the bubbles are coming
from!
Thank you, Peggie.
Giles Morris
Mike Bennett
very light rubdown with a Scotchpad prior to the last coat, to take off
the roughness. Then I apply 2 or 3 coats of Cetol #2 (gloss), somewhat
more carefully. If necessary, I do another LIGHT rubdown with the
scotchpads before the final coat.
As the others have said, thickness is key. More light coats are better
than 1 or 2 heavy ones. Sand/rub VERY LIGHTLY and then apply another
coat to make up for the loss.
I like the glossy coating a lot. To any but the most knowledable boater,
it looks just like varnish, is a LOT easier to apply, and lasts longer!
It is softer than varnish, however, so touch up (with one coat of #1
follwed by 1 coat of #2) often.
Good luck
Mike Bennett
Getaway
San Francisco
robpe...@spammeiname.com
feeling better about this thing already. I sure hope the touchup
coats (every year according to the can instructions) will keep me from
having to remove this wood and strip it again!
Regards, Rob
Dduelin
with 220 grit, I mean lightly, just to scuff the surface and remove any dust
or bubble nibs. The first three coats I use a foam brush, save the $8.00
badger brush for the 4th and last coat.
A trick to reduce bubbles is to run a coat hanger wire thru the top of your
cup or pot from one side to the other. Draw your brush across this after
dipping instead of the side of the can or container.
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Peggie Hall/Peal Products
The first three coats I use a foam brush, save the $8.00
> badger brush for the 4th and last coat.
If you're gonna use it for one coat, you might as well use it for
all..doesn't take any more effort to clean it. Foam brushes don't hold
paint, varnish OR Cetol...they allow it to pool at the tip, which makes
runs almost inevitable. And they don't hold an edge worth a damn. A
really GOOD trim brush OTOH does hold the material and does hold an
edge...so well that it takes more time and effort to mask (and I've
never been able to put down tape that didn't leak in at least 8 places)
than it does to clean up the one or two boo-boos you get without it.
Since you have to wait 24 hrs between Cetol and Armada coats, you can
avoid cleaning the brush after each one if you wrap it in a rag soaked
in mineral spirits and put it in a ziplock bag overnight.
Peggie