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Capt. JG

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Mar 10, 2008, 9:37:27 PM3/10/08
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Was wondering what people think of the comparitive worth of these two
organizations' certification systems...

I used to be a big ASA fan, but I'm tending more toward USS these days.

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Jere Lull

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Mar 11, 2008, 2:06:28 AM3/11/08
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On 2008-03-10 21:37:27 -0400, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid> said:

> Was wondering what people think of the comparitive worth of these two
> organizations' certification systems...
>
> I used to be a big ASA fan, but I'm tending more toward USS these days.

As a person not knowingly rated by either, I find both useless.

If I come across two possible crew-members, I'll grab the one that has
dinghy-racing experience over "not" every time.

Laser racers are at the top of my list, but there are a bunch of
one-design boats that require similar continuous attention.

"losers" in that set of classes are usually far better sailors than
those who can pay the bucks for "professional" certification.

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Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
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Capt. JG

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Mar 11, 2008, 1:39:11 PM3/11/08
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"Jere Lull" <jere...@mac.com> wrote in message
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Jere... I'm not talking about the student certifications... BKS, BC, BBC,
etc. I'm talking about the Instructor certifications... most schools require
one or the other.

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Capt. JG

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Mar 11, 2008, 2:14:06 PM3/11/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> I seem to remember your "pal" Bart not having a very high opinion of
> USSailing, even though the place he teaches advertises that their
> instructors are all certified by that organization.
>
>


I don't know where he teaches, and yes, he's a friend of mine. I know he has
some level of USS certification, but I don't know what level. Perhaps you
should ask him.

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Capt. JG

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Mar 11, 2008, 3:19:27 PM3/11/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:14:06 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
> ??? I thought you started this thread because you wanted opinions on
> USSailing vs ASA. I suggested that you ask Bart, since I remember him
> having a very strong opinion on the subject, and personal experience.
>
> Jeez, Jon, take a pill already.
>
>


What's your problem? You're the one who seems to be upset by Bart and
perhaps that he's a friend. I'm asking for others' informed opinions. If you
have no informed opinion about the differences, then kindly take your own
pill.

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Capt. JG

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Mar 11, 2008, 4:38:01 PM3/11/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:19:27 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
> ???
>
> I was only trying to help.
>
> You're welcome
>
>


Really? How's that? Did you think I forgot that I know Bart?

In that case, thanks.

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Capt. JG

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Mar 11, 2008, 6:49:56 PM3/11/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:38:01 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
> I don't know how well you know Bart, or if you happened to know about his
> rather
> strong opinions of USSailing, so I thought you might appreciate the tip.
> Honest.
>
> I thought you and I had more or less agreed to a ceasefire about a year
> ago in a
> series of private emails. Is that ceasfire still in effect, or are you
> trying to
> break it?
>
>


What are you talking about? You're the one who posted about Bart and me
taking a pill. Or, did I get that wrong?

In any case, perhaps Bart should speak for himself. I'm soliciting opinions
about the instructor certs for the two. If you have one, I'd love to hear
it.

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Capt. JG

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Mar 11, 2008, 7:17:09 PM3/11/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> Are you not well? Your responses are a bit weird to put it mildly. I told
> you to
> take a pill after your unseemly outburst in response to my offer of help.
> So,
> yes, you got it quite wrong. I also didn't say anything about Bart taking
> a
> pill. I really didn't say anything about him at all except to remind you
> that he
> had a strong opinion of USSailing that you migt want to ask him about. I
> only
> suggested that he might have a worthwhile opinion for you. I suggested
> that you
> ask Bart so that he CAN speak for himself.
>
> I can stop being nice anytime you like. Your move.
>
>


So, are you saying that you do or don't have an opinion about the two
programs?

I don't think it's relevant nor is it helpful to continually try and provoke
me. No move is required on my part.

Marty

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Mar 11, 2008, 7:22:11 PM3/11/08
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sa...@dog.com wrote:
[snipped a bunch of stuff post several times already]

>>
>> What's your problem? You're the one who seems to be upset by Bart and
>> perhaps that he's a friend. I'm asking for others' informed opinions. If you
>> have no informed opinion about the differences, then kindly take your own
>> pill.
>
> ???
>
> I was only trying to help.
>
> You're welcome
>
>

Jeeze, would one of you two remember to snip, some folks still use dial up!

Cheers
Marty

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Capt. JG

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Mar 11, 2008, 7:44:47 PM3/11/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:17:09 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
> Consider our gentlemen's agreement null and void, you drug addled faggot.
>
>


Ok Mike.... class of '72 was it?

Capt. JG

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Mar 11, 2008, 7:51:07 PM3/11/08
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"Marty" <bax...@kos.net> wrote in message
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It would have been nice if Mike had actually offered an opinion about
comparing the two rather than resort to personal attacks. I won't be
participating in that sort of exchange.

If someone has an opinion about the instructor certs from the two
organization, I'd love to hear it.

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Capt. JG

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Mar 12, 2008, 12:58:04 PM3/12/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:44:47 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
> wrote:
> Be careful what you wish for. It might not turn out the way you expect.
>
>


Mike, are you threatening me with something? Seems rather vague. In any
case, just to be clear, I have no wish to upset you. If you have something
useful to say about the differences between ASA Instructor certification and
USSailing Instructor certification, please feel free.

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Capt. JG

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Mar 12, 2008, 1:32:12 PM3/12/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:58:04 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>

> wrote:
>
>><sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
>>news:16dft3pieag7t3j6a...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:44:47 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> Be careful what you wish for. It might not turn out the way you expect.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>Mike, are you threatening me with something? Seems rather vague. In any
>>case, just to be clear, I have no wish to upset you. If you have something
>>useful to say about the differences between ASA Instructor certification
>>and
>>USSailing Instructor certification, please feel free.
>
> Tick, tick, tick...
>
>


So, I guess the answers are yes and no. Sad.

Jill M

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Mar 12, 2008, 8:03:05 PM3/12/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:19:27 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
> ???
>
> I was only trying to help.
>

Jon's having one of his drug-induced flashbacks. He can't help it.

> You're welcome
>
>


Jill M

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Mar 12, 2008, 8:08:29 PM3/12/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:49:56 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
> Are you not well? Your responses are a bit weird to put it mildly. I told
> you to
> take a pill after your unseemly outburst in response to my offer of help.
> So,

Pill = drugs to Ganze. Flashbacks, you know.


> yes, you got it quite wrong. I also didn't say anything about Bart taking
> a
> pill. I really didn't say anything about him at all except to remind you
> that he
> had a strong opinion of USSailing that you migt want to ask him about. I
> only

> suggested that he might have a worthwhile opinion for you. I suggested
> that you


> ask Bart so that he CAN speak for himself.
>
> I can stop being nice anytime you like. Your move.
>

I think Jon made a move on Bart, which Bart rejected since he's not gay like
Jon. Jon tried to get Bart drugged on some sort of pills, but Bart rejected
that try, too.

Jon's kind of sensitive. Jilted lover (in his mind...Bart was never
interested).

See what drugs will do to you?


Marty

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Mar 13, 2008, 12:04:29 AM3/13/08
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Jill M wrote:
>
> See what drugs will do to you?

Sure do, makes you post a couple of hundred lines of reply when onlhy
one would do.

Cheers
Marty

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