Top of the mast...
cavelamb
Now I know why a kitten stuck in a tree waits for the fire department
to come get him down...
It's not so much the height - as the sway...
Capt. JG
news:fvWdndAPr_H80bjW...@earthlink.com...
Yeah. I would rather pay someone else to do that if at all possible.
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Flying Pig
as a kid I climbed the tallest tree I could find, and went as far as it
would support me, and then made it sway as much as I could. I rather enjoy
it up the mast :{))
L8R
Skip, about to prove the point when I replace the VHF cable up there when I
get back in 5 weeks or so (haven't left yet...)
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I did the same stuff ... when I was a kid. :-)
Edgar
"Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid> wrote in message
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I don't mind it at all but my boat is very stable and I have never had to go
up except in the marina.
I had a good laugh some time ago when my brother climbed the mast of a boat
that was raher too small for his weight and watched him as she slowly
started to heel until he had to let go and drop into the water.
Capt. JG
news:2_6dndWmU80y4bjW...@telenor.com...
I went up the mast (part-way) in the Med a long time ago to change a
steaming light. It wasn't pleasant at all, and there was hardly any wind or
rocking. Now, I refuse to go unless it's an emergency (so far so good). Took
me 1/2 day to recover from seasickness.
Ekal Byar
"Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid> wrote in message
> "Flying Pig" <skipgu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hg3n8s$eu3$1...@aioe.org...
>> ehhh...
>>
>> as a kid I climbed the tallest tree I could find, and went as far as it
>> would support me, and then made it sway as much as I could. I rather
>> enjoy it up the mast :{))
>>
>> L8R
>>
>> Skip, about to prove the point when I replace the VHF cable up there when
>> I get back in 5 weeks or so (haven't left yet...)
>>
>>
>
>
> or two of acid. Then I was bulletproofFigures
Geoduck
cavelamb
Naw, it was ok, just scary as hell.
I'll pay someone to replace the holding tank hose...
Capt. JG
sa...@dog.com
wrote:
I guess it's not for everybody. I like going up, and everybody in the
marina knows it. I get invited quite often. Standing on the edge of a
roof bothers me, but for some reason, I'm not bothered in the
slightest going up a mast. I now have a system for getting up the mast
on my boat without any help, and I've considered the idea of going up
just to take pictures in nice anchorages I visit.
Capt. JG
news:966ci59u9ejmhj7v3...@4ax.com...
The shots you get can be pretty amazing. I like the ones straight down. I'll
have a get someone to do that next time.
Gregory Hall
>
>
> The shots you get can be pretty amazing. I like the ones straight down.
> I'll have a get someone to do that next time.
>
> --
> "j" ganz
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Flying Pig
>
>
> Heh...
>
> --
> "j" ganz @@
> www.sailnow.com
>
My solution to the problem was to go to PVC. It survived our wreck - it
will surely survive anything you can throw at it in regular use.
I wasn't smart enough yet - I learned more at the aft head - so my forward
head has a small section of the best head hose there is between the toilet
and the pipe in the wall (perhaps 8" total), and at the Y (two more short
sections), one from the holding tank and the other to the through hull.
Perhaps one day I'll make up the section of PVC to take away the section at
the head; the other is a bit more challenging, so likely I'll not bother.
My gallery has detailed pix on both installations in our initial refit
section, but I'm a bit pushed for time, so I apologize for not having the
specific section/pix to direct you to see it.
Suffice to say that there are NO hose points in my aft head. "Head smell"
is a thing of the past on Flying Pig, forever. WAY cheaper than that fancy
hose, too, and a full 1.5" inside...
L8R
Skip
cavelamb
>>> I'll pay someone to replace the holding tank hose...
>>
>> Heh...
>>
>> --
>> "j" ganz @@
>> www.sailnow.com
>>
>
>
> My solution to the problem was to go to PVC. It survived our wreck - it
> will surely survive anything you can throw at it in regular use.
>
> I wasn't smart enough yet - I learned more at the aft head - so my forward
> head has a small section of the best head hose there is between the toilet
> and the pipe in the wall (perhaps 8" total), and at the Y (two more short
> sections), one from the holding tank and the other to the through hull.
> Perhaps one day I'll make up the section of PVC to take away the section at
> the head; the other is a bit more challenging, so likely I'll not bother.
>
> My gallery has detailed pix on both installations in our initial refit
> section, but I'm a bit pushed for time, so I apologize for not having the
> specific section/pix to direct you to see it.
>
> Suffice to say that there are NO hose points in my aft head. "Head smell"
> is a thing of the past on Flying Pig, forever. WAY cheaper than that fancy
> hose, too, and a full 1.5" inside...
>
> L8R
>
> Skip
>
I read that in a previous message, Skip.
But I haven't dug through all your photos in quite a while.
Someday you need to organize and index that mess!
That will keep until you retire, though. :)
A question?
How does one connect to the tank outlet and (in my case) macerator
pump inlet using PVC?
Capt. JG
I thought about converting to the PVC solution, but there's currently no
problem, so I'm going to wait until the hoses need to be changed.
Tom Dacon
Now think about a sixteen-year-old girl doing that in the great Southern
Ocean...
Tom
Flying Pig
>
> How does one connect to the tank outlet and (in my case) macerator
> pump inlet using PVC?
>
Hi, Richard,
The standard hose outlet fitting takes, of course, 1.5" hose. That hose OD
is exactly the outside diameter of 1.5" pipe.
So, I put a sleeve of hose on the barb fitting. making it exactly match the
end of the barb fitting. I make the connection a tight butt (in our aft
through-hull, it was a slight - maybe 3* - off-line, so I shaved the end of
the pipe, very carefully, to the proper angle to make it a tight butt
fitting).
A standard waste pipe rubber coupling sleeve goes over both. Liberal
application of KY equivalent or teflon grease will allow later moving, as
was the case in my forward head, where I changed out the Y valve, and my aft
head, in which I replaced everything but the bowl - loosen the clamps, slide
the coupling up on the PVC to get it out of the way, and do what you need to
do. Slide it back down to reinstall.
In addition to the standard two hose clamps supplied with the coupling, I
put another right over the butt. That prevents any seepage from getting to
the rest of the coupling. NO possibility of odor transfer. When I took off
my couplings to do my work on both heads, once the other end was out of the
way, I pulled off the coupling and looked inside. Not a mark of seepage on
either one...
Odor-safe or whatever the white hose marketer is, in their website, sells
PVC connectors which are the right size for attaching a hose; even they
recommend PVC where possible. Since, other than in the forward head, I
didn't have any hose points, that was irrelevant. In the forward head,
where I had a small section of hose into the wall, I just took a standard
hardware fitting (screws into the threaded coupling in the PVC) and ground
off the barbs until the 1.5" hose fit it, something I learned from seeing it
on some other application when I got the boat. When I redo that front head
part, I'll unthread the coupling and replace it with straight PVC, making my
bends as needed to match up perfectly with the toilet outlet, using the same
sleeve idea to make the rubber coupling fit. When I rebuild the pump, all
I'll have to do is slide the coupling up the PVC, and remove it, if just
undoing the bolts on the joker holder isn't sufficient.
One other hint, also long-ago discussed here with Peggie, is that we very
aggressively flush with raw water after each use. That helps move any urine
products through the system, minimizing scale formation. We then also dry
pump aggressively to empty the pipe to the anti-siphon. PVC will take
muriatic acid and vinegar with aplomb (get your plomb here, folks, going
fast!), so we do that regularly, too. Of course, we have no proof, but I'd
bet a bunch that we have no scale in our pipes...
HTH
cavelamb
>>
> One other hint, also long-ago discussed here with Peggie, is that we very
> aggressively flush with raw water after each use. That helps move any urine
> products through the system, minimizing scale formation. We then also dry
> pump aggressively to empty the pipe to the anti-siphon. PVC will take
> muriatic acid and vinegar with aplomb (get your plomb here, folks, going
> fast!), so we do that regularly, too. Of course, we have no proof, but I'd
> bet a bunch that we have no scale in our pipes...
>
> HTH
>
> L8R
>
> Skip
>
Thanks, Skip.
I'll take a look at it in that light...
cavelamb
girl, boy?
When i was 16 free climbing the mast to scare my parents was great fun.
Tom Dacon
I'm pretty sure you were doing it at the dock or in mild conditions. I've
spent a little time at the masthead myself underway, taking pictures and
generally enjoying the scenery, but I've been up there other times when I
came down exhausted and black and blue all over my chest and the insides of
my thighs. What I was thinking about when I made my original comment was the
latest of the stunt around-the-world sailors, Zac Sunderland's 16-year-old
younger sister, who's putting together a non-stop around-the-world voyage,
and imagining her having to do that in heavy wind and large seas down in the
roaring 40's. If you've read any accounts of single-handed stunts like that,
you've read about some of those occasions.
Tom
Bruce In Bangkok
Mast steps?
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
Bruce In Bangkok
Which brings up a question I have always wondered abut.
When flushing a toilet connected directly to the ocean one pumps
flushing water through the system until, it is hoped, all evidence of
one's actions have been eliminated. But how about when one is using a
holding tank. Doesn't all this flushing tend to fill up the tank
rather rapidly
On my own system which has the toilet mounted with the top of the bowl
just above the water line, using the normal anti-siphon "loop", it
takes ten strokes of the pump to pump water completely through the
system. I have no idea what the volume of the pump is but I suspect
that ten strokes is a lot more then the approximately 1 qt. that I see
in the usual holding tank capacity calculations.
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
Wayne.B
<decypher...@sig.line> wrote:
>Doesn't all this flushing tend to fill up the tank
>rather rapidly
Yes it will.
sa...@dog.com
Nope.
Capt. JG
news:chpdi55d8qi13i9du...@4ax.com...
You have a modified Top Climber ? as I recall...
sa...@dog.com
wrote:
Completely my own creation. No Top Climber components used. Same idea,
but using better components and several design improvements.
cavelamb
>>>> Mast steps?
>>>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> You have a modified Top Climber ? as I recall...
>
> Completely my own creation. No Top Climber components used. Same idea,
> but using better components and several design improvements.
>
No offense intended, but i can't imagine actually trying to use that.
A bosun's chair on a rope is one thing. Your hands are (more or less)
free to do something.
But climbing up what amounts to a rope ladder and trying to do anything
beyond snapping pictures is way beyond me.
Richard
cavelamb
And a small tank fills in a hurry.
Capt. JG
I've heard it's pretty straight-forward... you mostly use your legs.
Wayne.B
wrote:
Professional steeple jacks sometimes use a similar rig with a small
bosuns chair that goes up with them. I talked with one of them once
(on the ground) and he was a rock climber in his spare time.
cavelamb
I kinda doubt that's all that it takes.
Even with a belly strap around the mast, there would simply be too much
possible motion for my comfort.
And I suspect you'd have to hold on with hands as well.
All fun aside, I don't mind going up on a rope.
But climbing a rope ladder? Definitely *not* fun.
I know that one.
Done it in and out of helicopters too many times.
cavelamb
Would he like to crew?
Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
>sa...@dog.com wrote:
I had one of those "rope ladder" things once. It was on a boat that I
bought and on first inspection I thought it was a great idea. then I
tried it out. If you aren't on dry land you need to tie off the bottom
and then tension the "ladder"; and even then it still sags off. Once
you get up there you are standing in fabric loops that not only
support you but also compress your foot so it becomes uncomfortable to
work after a very short time.
My suspicion is that they probably work if you just want to go up and
clear a caught halyard but as far as doing any real work up there they
are a waste of time. Try doing a job that takes several hours - such
as cutting and fitting new upper shroud plates, or fitting a plate to
the top of the mast to hold your new raz-a-mataz VHF antenna and
re;positioning the tri-color to clear the new antenna. A couple of
hours in those fabric stirrups and you're a cripple.
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
Wayne.B
<decypher...@sig.line> wrote:
>A couple of
>hours in those fabric stirrups and you're a cripple.
If you go up wearing a seat harness, you can clip off on that once
you're on top.
Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
According to my Jabsco toilet instruction manual it takes 7 pump
strokes per meter of hose. Lets see, if the hose is 1.5 inch (I
believe Skip said) then one meter is equal to about 1140 cubic
centimeters, or slightly more then a liter. So, if the hose between
the toilet and the holding tank is 1 meter long it is a minimum of a
liter a flush. If, on the other hand, it is longer then a meter and
there is an anti-siphon loop then....
It appears that bigger IS better...
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
sa...@dog.com
wrote:
>sa...@dog.com wrote:
??? My hands are both free at any point where I stop. It's nothing
like a "rope ladder"
One huge advantage over mast steps is that by rigging things
differently, I can ascend up along the forestay, backstay, or out to
the ends of the spreaders. I can reach any point above the deck of my
boat that might require access. And unlike being hauled up in a
bosun's chair the traditional way, I can stand up out of my bosun's
chair so I can see what I'm doing when working at the top of the mast.
I'm over the top looking down. A bosun's chair normally winched up,
stops with your head lower than the top of the mast.
sa...@dog.com
I'm related to the founder of this company, which climbs things more
challenging than your average church steeple. He gave me some of the
equipment in my rig. More importantly, he gave me a copy of the
company safety manual he wrote, which is a pretty thick book.
sa...@dog.com
wrote:
>Capt. JG wrote:
>> "cavelamb" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:tJ-dnd_RabhBbrvW...@earthlink.com...
>>> sa...@dog.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Mast steps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>> You have a modified Top Climber ? as I recall...
>>>> Completely my own creation. No Top Climber components used. Same idea,
>>>> but using better components and several design improvements.
>>>>
>>> No offense intended, but i can't imagine actually trying to use that.
>>>
>>> A bosun's chair on a rope is one thing. Your hands are (more or less)
>>> free to do something.
>>>
>>> But climbing up what amounts to a rope ladder and trying to do anything
>>> beyond snapping pictures is way beyond me.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>
>>
>> I've heard it's pretty straight-forward... you mostly use your legs.
>>
>
>
>I kinda doubt that's all that it takes.
>
Jon is correct.
>Even with a belly strap around the mast, there would simply be too much
>possible motion for my comfort.
>
What motion? The static line you are climbing is anchored top and
bottom, and is winched very tight. You aren't going anywhere execpt up
and down.
>And I suspect you'd have to hold on with hands as well.
>
You can let go with both hands at any point, and you never have to
hold onto anything other than the ascenders while climbing up or down.
>All fun aside, I don't mind going up on a rope.
>
>But climbing a rope ladder? Definitely *not* fun.
>I know that one.
>Done it in and out of helicopters too many times.
>
Once again, this is not a rope ladder. I wouldn't use one of those
either.
sa...@dog.com
It would be nice if you had some idea about what my rig is like. I sit
in a very comfortable bosun's seat with a solid and padded bottom, and
I have wide, solid footboards to stand on, just like you would have on
a wooden step ladder. I could take a nap up there.
Edgar
"Bruce In Bangkok" <decypher...@sig.line> wrote in message
news:lo5ei510sbm0r437j...@4ax.com...
> I had one of those "rope ladder" things once. It was on a boat that I
> bought and on first inspection I thought it was a great idea. then I
> tried it out. If you aren't on dry land you need to tie off the bottom
> and then tension the "ladder"; and even then it still sags off. Once
> you get up there you are standing in fabric loops that not only
> support you but also compress your foot so it becomes uncomfortable to
> work after a very short time.
> My suspicion is that they probably work if you just want to go up and
> clear a caught halyard but as far as doing any real work up there they
> are a waste of time. Try doing a job that takes several hours - such
> as cutting and fitting new upper shroud plates, or fitting a plate to
> the top of the mast to hold your new raz-a-mataz VHF antenna and
> re;positioning the tri-color to clear the new antenna. A couple of
> hours in those fabric stirrups and you're a cripple.
>
Surely, without making the whole thing too bulky by replacing all the canvas
steps with wooden slats, you could have one wooden step at the place where
you would have to stand while doing work at the masthead?
Rick Morel
<decypher...@sig.line> wrote:
>
>According to my Jabsco toilet instruction manual it takes 7 pump
>strokes per meter of hose. Lets see, if the hose is 1.5 inch (I
>believe Skip said) then one meter is equal to about 1140 cubic
>centimeters, or slightly more then a liter. So, if the hose between
>the toilet and the holding tank is 1 meter long it is a minimum of a
>liter a flush. If, on the other hand, it is longer then a meter and
>there is an anti-siphon loop then....
>
>It appears that bigger IS better...
>
>Cheers,
>
>Bruce
From tests, my Jabsco takes 23 pumps per gallon.
We have a Lectra/San so wanted to know how much to move through for
the twice a year cleaning.
Found out something interesting the other day. Our floating home is a
'63 Pearson Rhodes 41 with the original, well maintained Lectra/San
inatalled before 1978. It is grandfathered so it's legal for us to use
in NDZ's.
Rick
Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
The problem is that you now have a ladder attached to a rope which
leads to the top of the mast. Ever tried to do any work attached to a
rope? Tighten a bolt - you pull on the wrench and you move...
Try standing with your upper body above the masthead as you need to do
to actually do any work on the top of the mast.
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
Capt. JG
news:l9rei5tlk63j2ebqi...@4ax.com...
You should post some pictures of the device you're using. I'd certainly like
to see it, although I doubt I'd attempt to duplicate it.
Flying Pig
> Which brings up a question I have always wondered abut.
>
> When flushing a toilet connected directly to the ocean one pumps
> flushing water through the system until, it is hoped, all evidence of
> one's actions have been eliminated. But how about when one is using a
> holding tank. Doesn't all this flushing tend to fill up the tank
> rather rapidly
>
> On my own system which has the toilet mounted with the top of the bowl
> just above the water line, using the normal anti-siphon "loop", it
> takes ten strokes of the pump to pump water completely through the
> system. I have no idea what the volume of the pump is but I suspect
> that ten strokes is a lot more then the approximately 1 qt. that I see
> in the usual holding tank capacity calculations.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruce
> (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom
Yah, this procedure isn't very good for holding tanks. Much more aggressive
acid/vinegar process needed for HT situations where you'd want the least
possible fluid transfer...
L8R
Skip
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<skipgu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>"Bruce In Bangkok" <decypher...@sig.line> wrote in message
>news:m5ndi5lfs08dv73h8...@4ax.com...
>> Which brings up a question I have always wondered abut.
>>
>> When flushing a toilet connected directly to the ocean one pumps
>> flushing water through the system until, it is hoped, all evidence of
>> one's actions have been eliminated. But how about when one is using a
>> holding tank. Doesn't all this flushing tend to fill up the tank
>> rather rapidly
>>
>> On my own system which has the toilet mounted with the top of the bowl
>> just above the water line, using the normal anti-siphon "loop", it
>> takes ten strokes of the pump to pump water completely through the
>> system. I have no idea what the volume of the pump is but I suspect
>> that ten strokes is a lot more then the approximately 1 qt. that I see
>> in the usual holding tank capacity calculations.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bruce
>> (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom
>
>Yah, this procedure isn't very good for holding tanks. Much more aggressive
>acid/vinegar process needed for HT situations where you'd want the least
>possible fluid transfer...
>
>L8R
>
>Skip
The normally recommended practice is to flush the lines clean after
each use to try to avoid scale buildup. Are you saying that when using
a holding tank one doesn't flush the lines out - that the "stuff" just
lies in the lines and ferments? Certainly if this is the technique I
can see why the hoses begin to smell.
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
Magnus
<decypher...@sig.line> wrote:
>
>The normally recommended practice is to flush the lines clean after
>each use to try to avoid scale buildup. Are you saying that when using
>a holding tank one doesn't flush the lines out - that the "stuff" just
>lies in the lines and ferments? Certainly if this is the technique I
>can see why the hoses begin to smell.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Bruce
>(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
Bruce, the Brown-eyed Mullet - i.e. a Turd in the Sea - has spoken
about his favourite subject: Floating Excreta.
Actually nobody can actually compete with the very ultimate expert in
cr*p of the usenet!
So you're required to show some respect for our senile smelly brown
Captain-in-BS that needs some psychological help because nobody
believes his rantings about its knowledge as IT expert/ freelance
journalist/ weapon expert/ English teacher/ Vietnam Vet/ yacht owner/
couch potato boozehound/jungle oil worker/Goebbels in Bangkok/Gross
SS/ Water Supervisor.
Mort, the humble proctologist.
-
"Actually I am somewhat of an expert in weapons as I was in business
for a bit as a gunsmith, building super accurate varmint rifles" by
Goebells-in-Bangkok, aka the Usenet Smelly Sewer on 20 Apr 2009
cavelamb
Richard Casady
<decypher...@sig.line> wrote:
>A couple of
>hours in those fabric stirrups and you're a cripple.
Climbing boots will not crush even slightly. Cowboy boots are designed
to go in stirrups.
Casady
cavelamb
You are NOT wearing those on MY deck, sonny!
cavelamb
> colored soles that do not seem to mark. My climbing rig has nice wide
> footboards, so I could theoretically go up barefoot comfortably, but
> the opportunity to smash or sever toes would be great.
>
Yeahbut - he was talking Cowboy boots - probably with spurs.
(people DO wear spurs around here)
Magnus
wrote:
>If it looks like Wilbur, sounds like Wilbur, and smells like Wilbur...
"smells"?
In this psychiatric...err, present case, I'd rather say "stinks"...
:-o
Mort
"I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering, spent 20
years in the Air Force keeping them big silver birds flying; then
worked another twenty years for one of the larger oil field
construction and support companies in Indonesia. I'd have to say that
yes, I do know a bit about mechanical and electrical systems"-
megalomaniac ranting from Bruce in Bangkok (one of the aliases of GSS)
on rec.boats.cruising, 01 Nov 2007
Bruce In Bangkok
Cowboy boots.... on a boat?
We don't even wear "deck shoes" except to go to town :-)
\
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
Richard Casady
wrote:
>Richard Casady wrote:
Two things. Leather doesn't mark decks. and:
I am not going up any mast unless it is a matter of life and death. At
that point you will be glad it is me and not you and I will be glad I
had them in my luggage.
Casady
Richard Casady
<decypher...@sig.line> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:15:00 -0600, Richard Casady
><richar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:05:19 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
>><decypher...@sig.line> wrote:
>>
>>>A couple of
>>>hours in those fabric stirrups and you're a cripple.
>>
>>Climbing boots will not crush even slightly. Cowboy boots are designed
>>to go in stirrups.
>>
>>Casady
>
>Cowboy boots.... on a boat?
>We don't even wear "deck shoes" except to go to town :-)
You wear them to the honky tonks, or to actually ride a horse. Most
cowboys don't ride a horse. They own their own trucks and get an
allowance to cover that. On the other hand, I wear a Western hat
whenever I leave the house. Keeps the sun off my face and the rain off
my glasses, as well as keeping my long hair in place. Most actual
cowboys wear a baseball cap. Those are free and the hats start at $125
for a lower quality one.
Casady
brian whatcott
Hmmm..round here, the truck hauls a trailer which pulls the horse, fully
tacked, between spreads if there is much distance involved.
Stetsons and Resistol hats cost plenty in the 8X versions so gimme
hats are popular. I get my 8X beavers from thrift stores, usually...
Brian W
Bruce In Bangkok
<richar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:46:56 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
><decypher...@sig.line> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:15:00 -0600, Richard Casady
>><richar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:05:19 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
>>><decypher...@sig.line> wrote:
>>>
>>>>A couple of
>>>>hours in those fabric stirrups and you're a cripple.
>>>
>>>Climbing boots will not crush even slightly. Cowboy boots are designed
>>>to go in stirrups.
>>>
>>>Casady
>>
>>Cowboy boots.... on a boat?
>>We don't even wear "deck shoes" except to go to town :-)
>
>You wear them to the honky tonks, or to actually ride a horse. Most
>cowboys don't ride a horse. They own their own trucks and get an
>allowance to cover that. On the other hand, I wear a Western hat
>whenever I leave the house. Keeps the sun off my face and the rain off
>my glasses, as well as keeping my long hair in place. Most actual
>cowboys wear a baseball cap. Those are free and the hats start at $125
>for a lower quality one.
>
>Casady
Obviously you are not a "proper" sailor or you would wear your long
hair in a neat pigtail, or perhaps you would prefer the word "queue"
(defined as "A tail-like appendage of hair; a pigtail." :-)
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
Chris
> I had to go up and reinstall an errant jib halyard today.
>
> Now I know why a kitten stuck in a tree waits for the fire department
> to come get him down...
>
> It's not so much the height - as the sway...
You ever see a cat skeleton up in a tree?
Chris
Bruce In Bangkok
But then again, once seldom sees a kitten up an aluminum mast :-)
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
cavelamb
I saw one try once.
VERY frustrated cat!
Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
My temporary dock neighbor has a large, black cat. He tells me that he
spends most of the time anchored out and I wonder about the cat. Does
one take the cat for a run ashore? Maybe let it loose for the night so
it can see the kitty sights? Singing loud songs and fighting?
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
Ala
"cavelamb" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I've seen one try and play a piano
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px0inxmpOC0
Ala
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