Bayside, Queens
sa...@dog.com
straight down the rest of LIS non-stop, and are anchored in Little
Neck Bay just off the yacht club in Bayside, Queens. They're in the
big city now... Padlock your dinghy at all times!
They choose a strange place to anchor in Port Jefferson. I'll bet they
had a pretty roll-y night. I know several people gave them tips on
much better spots.
Hopefully we'll get a first hand report soon.
Larry
> Padlock your dinghy at all times!
>
>
Won't the gunfire, screams and sirens keep them awake?
sa...@dog.com
Boaters are used to taking their dinghy to a dock, tieing it to a
cleat and going ashore with no worries. Where they are now, that's a
good way to get rid of a dinghy you don't want - in the blink of an
eye.
Thomas, Spring Point Light
"Larry" <no...@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B191A2C754...@208.49.80.253...
> sa...@dog.com wrote in news:v1noc4dpke78c1733...@4ax.com:
>
>> Padlock your dinghy at all times!
>>
>>
>
> Won't the gunfire, screams and sirens keep them awake?
>
A few years back, I drove down from NE to look at a boat
that was kept there.. I was very impressed. It isn't a short
walk to the "city" but there is public trans and all.
I"d love to sail to that area ... very nice.
sa...@dog.com
I know quite a few people who HAVE sailed there that would disagree
with your assessment. It's not the Bronx, but it's not what Skip is
accustomed too, either.
Vic Smith
>
>I know quite a few people who HAVE sailed there that would disagree
>with your assessment. It's not the Bronx, but it's not what Skip is
>accustomed too, either.
Is that on the East River? I lived in Queens one summer.
Spent more than one afternoon in a park there tripping on acid,
watching the tide come in, and watching it go away again.
Besides that, I remember Ditmars Ave. and O'Leary's Tap.
Oh, I think LaGuardia Airport was across the river, or maybe it was a
spaceport. It's all a little hazy.
--Vic
sa...@dog.com
Skip is a bit east of there in Little Neck Bay.
Larry
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> It's all a little hazy.
>
Sounds somewhat like my recollection of Woodstock in '69...(c;
Anyone who actually "remembers" Woodstock must have been a cop or first
responder....or wasn't there.
It was probably best. I was 23. A few of us took leave from the Navy to
attend....
...none of us told them, of course, where we were going!
Wayne.B
>>I know quite a few people who HAVE sailed there that would disagree
>>with your assessment. It's not the Bronx, but it's not what Skip is
>>accustomed too, either.
>
>Yes. I would have thought that City Island might have been preferable.
Little Neck Bay is fine for an overnight anchorage prior to getting an
early start down the East River - much better protection from the
prevailing winds and closer to Throggs Neck than City Island. I would
not moor a boat there permanently however. A friend of mine did that
for a few years back in the 80s and was broken into repeatedly.
Ray Crock
"Dave" <Da...@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:43:17 -0400, sa...@dog.com said:
>
>>I know quite a few people who HAVE sailed there that would disagree
>>with your assessment. It's not the Bronx, but it's not what Skip is
>>accustomed too, either.
>
But, but, but..........
What if he didn't have shackles and thimbles for his dock lines???????
You can't dock in City Island without shackles and thimbles in your dock
lines!
sa...@dog.com
Yeah, you "can" anchor there overnight. My warning is that you need to
be on your guard in a way that few boaters are accustomed to. That
means having a chain and padlock that you use on your dinghy when you
go ashore, and hoping that that is sufficient.
Plus, Skip is CRUISING, which for most people is about seeing new and
interesting NICE places. He sailed right by Cold Spring Harbor to
anchor in Little Neck Harbor. He's still there, so this was more than
a quick overnight way point. Sort of like going camping by parking
your RV in the Walmart parking lot.
Roger Long
>
> You can't dock in City Island without shackles and thimbles in your dock
> lines!
That one went over the backstop. Explain please?
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Don't worry, Roger. It's not worth the explanation.
Capt. JG
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"Ray Crock" is just another sockpuppet for Neal, Wilber, Hall, etc., who's
using a free posting service as a doormat to spew his garbage. The reference
is to someone on a.s.a.
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Skip Gundlach
> Plus, Skip is CRUISING, which for most people is about seeing new
> and
> interesting NICE places. He sailed right by Cold Spring Harbor to
> anchor in Little Neck Harbor. He's still there, so this was more
> than
> a quick overnight way point. Sort of like going camping by parking
>
>
>
Just looks like I'm still there. Spot sucks; the enabling system is
convoluted and didn't work, where the "OK" message DID get out,
leaving PJ for LN.
We're in Atlantic Highlands after a very calm anchorage in Pt. Jeff
cuz we couldn't get to PW; we went to LN to get as close to our exit
as possible and it was, too, a lovely anchorage.
Too much going on; haven't had a chance to do a log - more details
when I do, about the anchorages, the last couple having been just a
place to throw the hook...
--
L8R
Skip
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Roger Long
> Just looks like I'm still there. Spot sucks; the enabling system is
> convoluted and didn't work, where the "OK" message DID get out, leaving PJ
> for LN.
>
I've had no problems or missed tracking initiation since I learned to hold
the button down until the LED lights and then goes out. If you press the
button until the LED just comes on and then release before it goes out
again, it sends an OK message.
I always send an OK message after I anchor and then turn the unit off for
the night. In the morning, I turn it on, press and hold the button, and it
always goes into tracking mode reliably.
I admit that they could have done a better job on the user interface but
I've been very happy with mine. My review for "Points East" didn't make it
into the upcoming issue but may appear with the story of my August cruise
sometime this winter.
--
Roger Long
Larry
@Gogarty.news.bway.net:
> Little Neck Bay is a fine place to anchor out
No thanks.....We prefer lazing back adrift on Charleston Harbor or rafted
up in one of our many lovely estuaries with friends for the weekend.....
When the crabbers go by to tend their traps, we flag them down to buy
dinner....sometimes trading them glasses of some inebriating concoction
from the large coffee pot in exchange for the Blues in the basket....(c;
I couldn't take the pressure around NY. Charleston only had that much
"rush" during Hurricane Hugo!
Y'all stop by. Lotsa Yankees do! They seem to enjoy it.
Heah....try suma this mint julep.....(c;
Our clocks are set to "sometime".....
Wayne.B
>The area on the
>North end just south of High Island provides very decent protection. I
>moored a boat there for several years.
So did I back in the early 70s - Bob Taylor's old "Offshore yacht
Club", followed by G&G Marine next to the ferry dock or something like
that. It was wicked rough there in a nor'easter or strong southerly,
and you had to watch out for the sunken barge, and the shoal behind
Rat Island.
Wayne.B
>Y'all stop by. Lotsa Yankees do! They seem to enjoy it.
Until the local tax collector takes a liking to your boat for some
inexplicable reason. It's a nice enough town but it will be a *long*
time before I take a boat there again.
Larry
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God, how long did you stay?!
We want Yankees to VISIT....not drop anchor until it rots!
Wayne.B
>Mary Taylor was running the place when I had my boat there--my first
>experience with Bobsprit's type of phony yacht club. At that time I had a
>little 16' English twin keel boat with some pretty bare bones
>accommodations.
We bought our first keel boat, an Abbott Soling, from Bob Taylor a
couple of weeks before he and Mary split in the fall of 1971. Things
quickly got very chaotic and we pulled out at the first opportunity.
Wayne.B
We spent two nights at the city marina, a very nice facility as I'm
sure you know. We needed a generator repair which was handled very
efficiently by a local mechanic that the marina recommended. Some how
the tax people thought that money was owed by a previous owner and
they made my life miserable for about 6 months trying to collect.
Roger Long
page is blank. Since S&L's isn't working either, I suspect they are still
working on the servers or there is some problem at that end.
First failure I've had since I figured out the button sequence.
--
Roger Long
Roger Long
looking at a cached page. I tried reloading Skip's though but it still
shows him in Bayside.
--
Roger Long
Larry
news:bgguc49pc25s93jrg...@4ax.com:
> Some how
> the tax people thought that money was owed by a previous owner and
> they made my life miserable for about 6 months trying to collect.
Wow...I'd like to hear more about that story. Did you buy it from here?
Larry
I don't have your URL, but I clicked up Skip and nothing loaded, at first.
Clicking that little rotating button (refresh) at the bottom of the text
list resulted in an instantaneous refresh that shows the Pig just east of a
tiny little marina, out in the bay on the hook I suppose, at Bayside.
Looking at the satellite/map hybrid, the little marina's fuel dock looks a
short walk to The Bay Terrace at Bayside, come kind of big mall...(c; St
Mary's Hospital is very close, too....which is nice if you need it.
I bet the rent in that nice high rise complex between 23rd and 17th Ave
fronting on the Cross Island Expressway is a LOT more than Skip is paying
for a much better view....(c;
The last spot on his page was 3 days ago.
Larry
> Belay that. The page tracking info just showed up. My browser was
I was browsing around looking for Archie Bunker's house, and found many of
them, when I ran into Shea Stadium on Flushing Bay.
I wonder if those nice folks at the marina right across the expressway from
Shea Stadium would let you borrow a slip long enough to take in the ball
game and have a few overpriced hot dogs? The picture shows lots of empty
slips. Must be kinda pricey to be empty like that....(c;
Boy the Jumbotron sticks way up behind the outfield!
Wayne.B
No, we purchased the boat in Florida and all applicable Florida taxes
and fees were paid at time of sale. We received the usual assurances
in the purchase contract that the boat was being sold free of any
liens or encumberances. The next year we took the boat north for the
summer, stopping at Charleston for 2 days along the way. About 3
months later we received a letter from the Charleston County tax
office that we owed over $14K in retroactive personal property taxes.
Our choice was to pay or have the boat seized and auctioned off. As
you can imagine a number of phone calls ensued. They were adamant
that a prior owner, some ten years previously, had overstayed his time
in Charleston and that we as the current owners were liable for the
taxes and penalties. They informed us that we either had to pay, lose
the boat, or prove that the taxes were not due.
We went back and forth with them for over six months, exchanging
lawyer letters, tracking down former owners, etc. After being
threatened with seizure any number of times they finally decided that
no money was due after reviewing all of the available evidence. I
insisted that they write me a letter to that effect which I still have
in the boat files. The whole affair has left me with a rather bad
feeling toward your otherwise fine city. We won't be back any time
soon. I even get nervous transiting the coast.
Roger Long
winter (next year). If I ever go that way, I'll do the fast transit thing
as well.
With my boat's history, I don't have any real concern about what you went
through but, as a matter of principle, I don't want my money to go to any
state that would allow such things to take place.
You should write this story up and submit it to some of the cruising
magazines. This kind of crap is like mold. Exposure to light and air is
the best cure.
--
Roger Long
Vic Smith
I'm sure there is some connection here to the Secret Grand Council of
Abusive Tax Collectors, but I'll leave it to Larry to defend the great
city of Charleston.
--Vic
Roger Long
isn't running it any more. Too bad. It was fun following them. The unit
is a bit quirky but works fine when you figure out the klunky interface. I
think they probably added the tracking feature after the case and circuit
were already finalized and had to come up with a button sequence so tracking
was added with a firmware function instead of a dedicated button. Late
implementation would also explain the tracking page still being in beta
development.
Mine's working fine and still on the same batteries I put in after I bought
it last March. I'll be taking it on the delivery trip of the Maryland
research vessel so people at the university can follow the progress.
SPOT should really come up with a second generation unit that has an "Up /
Down" button and a small LED screen. All it does is transmit numbers to the
sat system. If you could change just one number, you could set up a page
with the people you were communicating with and have 64 to 256 prearranged
codes which would let you convey a lot of useful information.
--
Roger Long
Skip Gundlach
news:gaqnbg$3oq$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> They're long gone. I think Skip has gotten disgusted and tired of
> SPOT and isn't running it any more. Too bad. It was fun following
> them. The unit is a bit quirky but works fine when you figure out
> the klunky interface. I think they probably added the tracking
> feature after the case and circuit were already finalized and had to
> come up with a button sequence so tracking was added with a firmware
> function instead of a dedicated button. Late implementation would
> also explain the tracking page still being in beta development.
>
Not disgusted and tired to the point of non-use. It just didn't do its
thing on the last couple of trips. If we implement your sequence
successfully, it will show our passages. When I get the "OK" notice on
wifi before we've left, I'd presumed it was working... Not yet
decided; we'll either do a one- or two-jump (all the usual
disclaimers/allowances) trip (Charleston maybe if not direct) to Miami
when we leave here (Atlantic Highlands)...
> Mine's working fine and still on the same batteries I put in after I
> bought it last March. I'll be taking it on the delivery trip of the
> Maryland research vessel so people at the university can follow the
> progress.
Your battery life is encouraging; I wish now that we'd known your
success instead of their cautious "2-week life" statement, as we'd not
have bought the 4 (sets) replacements at staggering prices...
>
> SPOT should really come up with a second generation unit that has an
> "Up / Down" button and a small LED screen. All it does is transmit
> numbers to the sat system. If you could change just one number, you
> could set up a page with the people you were communicating with and
> have 64 to 256 prearranged codes which would let you convey a lot of
> useful information.
So, call or write them with the suggestion. Bet they'd send you a new
one to test...
--
L8R
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and couth. We are gruntled and consolate that you have the ertia and
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>>Stamp out Sesquipedalianism<<
Roger Long
> When I get the "OK" notice on wifi before we've left, I'd presumed it was
> working...
I've discovered that OK is a totally separate function from tracking. The
tracking sequence does not start with an "OK" message. Since the first OK
sometimes takes 20 minutes to go out, I've rejected their advice to always
start with an OK. If the unit is still trying to send the OK, it won't
start tracking. The LED indication for attempting to send and OK and being
in tracking is the same so it's confusing. Just turn it on and hold the OK
button until the LED goes off again. If you do want to send a morning "OK",
you have to wait until just the ON LED is blinking, turn the unit off, and
then start again to initiate tracking as described above. Too much waiting
for me in the morning.
When I send the evening OK, I do it just after anchoring as I'm turning
other stuff off and then leave it on until just before turning in for the
night when I turn it off.
I've had good luck with mine on a shelf inside above a berth. I saw yours
outside on the cabin top. You might try it inside.
--
Roger Long
Wayne.B
<skipgu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Not yet
>decided; we'll either do a one- or two-jump (all the usual
>disclaimers/allowances) trip (Charleston maybe if not direct) to Miami
>when we leave here (Atlantic Highlands)...
This is not a good time of year for heroic offshore passages. In
addition to the hurricane threat there are a steady stream of frontal
systems coming off the coast and the occasional fall gale.
A far more prudent route is to head back to the northern Chesapeake
and take your time working south until late October. You really do
*not* want to be caught "out there" in a 3 day nor'easter. They move
up the coast with incredible speed.
Wayne.B
<thismaila...@comcast.net> wrote:
>I'm sure there is some connection here to the Secret Grand Council of
>Abusive Tax Collectors, but I'll leave it to Larry to defend the great
>city of Charleston.
Charleston is a fine city. Travel by car, preferably a rental. :-)
Roger Long
>
> This is not a good time of year for heroic offshore passages.
Excellent advice. My first experience offshore was in early October. We
blew the mainsail out below the first reef three hours out of Newport. We
blew out a sail every night and I sewed for hours. I saw the 100 foot North
Sea pilot schooner completely underwater at one point with just two masts
sticking above the sea. The steel foremast was found cracked half way
around from the impact shortly after she docked in Bermuda.
--
Roger Long
Larry
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> We went back and forth with them for over six months, exchanging
> lawyer letters, tracking down former owners, etc. After being
> threatened with seizure any number of times they finally decided that
> no money was due after reviewing all of the available evidence. I
> insisted that they write me a letter to that effect which I still have
> in the boat files. The whole affair has left me with a rather bad
> feeling toward your otherwise fine city. We won't be back any time
> soon. I even get nervous transiting the coast.
>
>
>
I don't blame you! I'd never come back here if I were treated like a
criminal.
I'm forwarding your post to someone I know in County government who will be
very interested in this. I'll be sure to cut your header out of it.
Larry
news:20080917-1...@Gogarty.news.bway.net:
> As I have said before, this is the ideal place to wait out the Hell
> Gate or the Sound going in either direction.
thanks.
Jere Lull
I second that sentiment and add that Hattaras can blow up in any given
hour this time of year.
At a minimum, bounce down to Beaufort and take off from there. Have
another of those steaks along the way.
--
Jere Lull
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