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F-31 trimaran capsizes, breaks up in Atlantic, sailor lost

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Russell Turpin

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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Soundings Online has an article about this. Click on
the link below my signature, and this article should
be near the top.

Russell
Cruising News
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David Smalley

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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Poor bastard.

But notice, the boat did not sink.

Maybe he would still be alive if he had a harness?

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Nobody

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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David Smalley wrote:

Yup....like I said before, a properly designed multihull shouldn't sink,
and an ocean sail without a harness is just foolhardy.

BUT, an overturned multihull makes a much more dramatic photo than a
sunken monohull dontcha think so?

Just thought I'd stir it up again...lol


Steven Shelikoff

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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David Smalley wrote:
>
> Russell Turpin wrote:
> >
> > Soundings Online has an article about this. Click on
> > the link below my signature, and this article should
> > be near the top.
> >
> > Russell
> > Cruising News
> > http://www.clickfeed.com/cfapp/feedprofile.php?cfid=|4|66|
>
> Poor bastard.
>
> But notice, the boat did not sink.
>
> Maybe he would still be alive if he had a harness?

He'd probably still be alive if he had a monohull. The conditions
reported (swells 15-20ft, wind gusts to 45kts) would not be overly
dangerous to the average 31' monohull.

Steve

thompson

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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Nobody <n...@spam.com> wrote:

>Yup....like I said before, a properly designed multihull
shouldn't sink,
>and an ocean sail without a harness is just foolhardy.

A "properly" designed monohull won't sink either. "Properly"
designed airplanes don't crash. "Properly" designed buildings
don't fall down. Your view about "proper design" is just
a tautology. I agree about sailing without a harness, but
then the article isn't really conclusive about whether he was
wearing a harness. Maybe he was harnessed to part of the boat
that had already broken up when it was discovered.

>BUT, an overturned multihull makes a much more dramatic photo
than a
>sunken monohull dontcha think so?

It would be a more convincing argument about the safety of
multihulls if the captain had survived. I didn't hear about
any monohulls disappearing in that part of the world during the
same period. Maybe none were out there.

>Just thought I'd stir it up again...lol

Do you really think this incident is funny?


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Douglas S. King

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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I certainly do not intend to make light of this tragedy. It is very
much a shame that this accident happened and my sympathies are with
the sailors family.


> David Smalley wrote:
> > Poor bastard.
> >
> > But notice, the boat did not sink.
> >
> > Maybe he would still be alive if he had a harness?
>
>

> Steven Shelikoff wrote:
> He'd probably still be alive if he had a monohull. The conditions
> reported (swells 15-20ft, wind gusts to 45kts) would not be overly
> dangerous to the average 31' monohull.

Or if he were in the average $120k+ monohull.

He could play it even safer yet and go in an average $110k monohull
after spending a bit putting in positive flotation.....

Fresh Breezes- Doug King
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gc

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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What do you mean, Doug?

I can't think of a more expensive (little) boat than the F31 - if you
know where I can find one for, oh, $50K, let me know (offline)...

Gregg Carlson


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Harrison Evatt

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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I have a close friend who is a very experienced ocean sailor with multiple
ocean crossings on monohulls from 26 to 70 ft. He also happens to have built
a beautifully constructed Farrier F9A which is the same basic boat as the
mass produced Corsair F-31. This very experienced sailor doesn't think long
ocean passages in the F-31 are a very good idea in general. This is
primarily because the boat is so fast and responsive that the crew has to be
on "edge" whenever there is much breeze. He believes that for long open
ocean passages, a crew of three very experienced multihull sailors would be
necessary to make for a safe passage when compared to a monohull which could
be more easily handled in heavier weather with less crew.

Harrison

Jon Alvord

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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It is a loss to the Multihull community that this happened, if you have read the
article you would know that he was in contact via email with family the day
before and had reported problems with the boat, abeit what was actually wrong I
am not sure, and was headed toward Cape Cod for repairs. As Ian Farrier, the
designer would state, the F31, 27, 28, 24 are not designed for ocean crossing
warranties are voided if taken over the ocean. The F-36/F-41 are the only
F-boats that are designed for this purpose.
Personally, I love my F-31R, it is an awsome, powerful machine. Just this
weekend I sailed in a 22kn race in under 2 hours with max speed at 19kn on a
tight reach. We even had the main hull out of the water for a brief second.
Granted I had a crack crew of 4 with two on winches, one on the mainsheet and
myself on helm. I also had my children who were asleep in the V-Berth. I do not
own a tillerpilot as I mostly coastal cruise/race the boat and the pilot is
mounted in a bad spot, also I like to have control of the tiller and feel safer
with it.
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