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Nymph vs. Elegant Punt

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Robert Turner

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Dec 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/4/96
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I'm about to embark on the journey. The journey of building a small
sail boat. I've reduced to selection to these two boats: the Nymph, and
the Elegant Punt. Both boats are Phil Bolger designed and Harold Payson
built so both have good blood lines.

Any recommendation of the Nymph vs. the Elegant Punt?

Or is there another contender?

Robert "Just beginning" Turner


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Peter H. Vanderwaart

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Dec 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/4/96
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> Any recommendation of the Nymph vs. the Elegant Punt?
>

I build an elegant punt. As a finished boat, I found it to be narrow and high sided, and
in general, not as good a dinghy as I would have liked. I have no experience with Nymph.

Bolger has suggested his Turtle for a cheap punt, but never the Elegant Punt, so I
gather he doesnt think is wonderful either.

There are a zillion plans. I suggest that you find a boat you like, and find plans that
match in lenght, width, and beam.

Peter.

Robert Covey

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Dec 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/5/96
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RoberRobert Turner wrote:
>
> I'm about to embark on the journey. The journey of building a small
> sail boat. I've reduced to selection to these two boats: the Nymph, and
> the Elegant Punt. Both boats are Phil Bolger designed and Harold Payson
> built so both have good blood lines.
>
> Any recommendation of the Nymph vs. the Elegant Punt?
>
> Or is there another contender?
>
> Robert "Just beginning" Turner
>
> --
> Robert Turner USA-602-413-5441 robert...@email.sps.mot.com
> I like the quiet I hear. Channing, age 4Robert,

FWIW, I did the same analysis several years ago and decided to built
Cartopper. A little more boat than the other 2, but she sure is pretty.
And sails well, too. Somewhat higher materials cost and maybe a little
more time, but the process is the same.

Cheers,

Bob

Dave Cannell

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Dec 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/5/96
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Here's maybe another contender, I had the pleasure of sailing in a Wind
Sprint this fall at the Mid_Atlantic Small Craft Festival. It was a fun
boat. Don't know if it's in the same class as what you're considering
but it seemed like a nice boat.

Do, however build the rudder head a little beefier than the one I was
in. I think he build his stock and it isn't quite heavy enough.

Let us know what you decide on.

Dave Cannell

t...@dunderdale.prestel.co.uk

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Dec 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/5/96
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I built both boats some years ago. The Elegant Punt went together
very quickly - two of us began work at 10 am and finished the boat,
apart from the painting and varnishing, at 9pm the same day. As all
the joints are framed and nailed, there's no need to wait for the glue
to set. It took my friend considerably longer to paint the boat than
it took us to build it.
You might think that the Nymph would be quicker to build as there are
no accurate joins to cut - and indeed the cutting out and initial
assembly is relatively quick - but the boat is so flimsy that you have
to take care not to build in twist as you tape the seams. Taping is a
slower process than you might think if you want a smooth and sightly
seam, and is even slower if you fillet and tape, especially if you use
epoxy and not polyester as it takes longer to set up. And you have
the outside of the boat to do, too. Finishing takes much longer as
the edges of the tape have to be smoothed off - you should not be able
to see or feel the tape under the paint.
Both boats are still in use. The Punt was built to dredge weed from a
school pond: in use, it is poled from a standing position, and the
weed is raked out into a large dustbin - so it is pretty stable, on a
pond anyway. The Nymph is very different in that you would not want
to perform the same antics, but it does row well, even in choppy
water, and if you do not glass the outside with cloth and use a light
ply, you can carry it some distance on your shoulder. Don't even
think of using a motor with it, though.


maoz daniel

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Dec 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/6/96
to Dave Cannell

sorry for the silly question , but what is "punt"????

Chris Crandall

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Dec 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/6/96
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maoz daniel (mr...@netvision.net.il) wrote:

: sorry for the silly question , but what is "punt"????

A punt is a long, relatively narrow flat-bottomed boat, with a
flat bow and transom.

It is a flat water craft, e.g., for slow-moving rivers, and is typically
propelled by a long pole.

Propelling a boat by a long pole is called "punting".

-Chris

captr...@aol.com

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Dec 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/11/96
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I 've built both those boats and recomend the punt as a first project.
The Nymph
is a tack and tape boat which does not really offer much in the way of
learning
basic boat building skills, chines and bevels and fasteners. I built the
punt for
my 9 yr old son for his birthday, and have spent many hours in it .It' s
one of my
favorites. I don't recomend building it from the book because of the
bevels. It's
much easier to get them off the plans. If you have any more questions feel
free
to get in touch . That one is still pretty fresh in my memory.I

Thomas Dalzell

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Dec 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/11/96
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In article <19961211005...@ladder01.news.aol.com> captr...@aol.com writes:
>From: captr...@aol.com
>Subject: Re: Nymph vs. Elegant Punt
>Date: 11 Dec 1996 00:55:49 GMT


Just as reguards the bevels, I built from the book, though I have enough
unbuilt Bolger plans kicking arround, no to feel bad about it (its a
legitimate practice). I just glued the chine logs (twigs in this case) on,
with a little overhang, attached the sides, bulkheads etc... and with
everything level ground the logs level, by eye. Slaped on the bottom, and on
to the next step. It isn't necesary to pick up the bevels in any kind of
organised way.

Thomas

John Gilman

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Dec 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/13/96
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I would prefer the punt, but built the Nymph with the real help of my 9
year old son and 6 year old daughter. It is their boat, "robin", and
because it wasn't a real boat, at least as far a basic boat building
skills, it went together in a couple of weekends. In contrast, my real
boat, a 14' lapstrake catboat is still under eternal construction.

John

Bob Stewart

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Dec 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/18/96
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I'd like to build a punt (or something along those lines) but my library is no
help. Where can I get some basic info on simple boats.

In article <32B1B3...@tyrell.net>, gil...@tyrell.net says...

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