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William Hodal

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Nov 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/8/95
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I am also looking for people who are experienced with James Wharram
Designs. In case I don't get back in time please e-mail at
who...@axionet.com

If you don't have his address it is:

James Wharram Designs
Greenbank Road
Devoran, Truro
Cornwall TR3 6PJ
UK Tel: (0872) 864792


Also, the Polynesian Catamaran Association consist of people who are
interested in building Wharram Designs. They also publish a magazine
"The Sea People"

They are at

Torpoint Yacht Harbour
Marine Drive, Torpoint,
Cornwall PL11 2EH. UK


Thanks
Howard Hodal

Daniel deLaureal

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Nov 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/8/95
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Just recieved studyplans for TIKIROA, TIKI26, TIKI30. Am curently
agonizing over which to build. Love the lines of TIKIROA. But TIKI26
LOOKS more practical. Will update periodically.
Dan deLaureal

randy

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Nov 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/9/95
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Dan,

How much are the studt plans for the Tiki 26? The price list I have is
a couple of years old.

Thanks.

Randy Holbrook


Pierre Boutet

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Nov 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/14/95
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> -------------------------

Please do. I'm very interested. I've spent a few nights trying to sleep
while thinking of the TIKI21 and 26. I'm now building a kayak...

Svein Westerheim

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Nov 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/24/95
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In article <489043$o...@news.infobahnos.com>, pbo...@infobahnos.com
says...
I have just finished building a Tiki 21 and will apreciate to share my
experiance in building and sailing with all intersted people.


Ron Eikamp

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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In article <49fnop$j...@cobia.gulf.net>, pbwr...@fwb.gulf.net (Ray Aldridge) says:

>Bob Beggs, sailing a Tiki 26, the smallest boat in the last OSTAR,
>finished ahead of a number of larger boats, and the OSTAR is largely a
>windward race.
>

This is very interesting. I hadn't been aware of Bob Beggs Tiki 26 in the OSTAR. Is
there be an account of the passage somewhere?

Something always really grabbed me about these boats. Everything I ever read said
they were wonderful running off in heavy weather. If the Tiki series is better
to weather, I might have to rethink my plans. I thought the 26 was the one for me: big
enough for some serious wandering, small enough to trailer fairly well, doable to build,
and gosh, just so darn romantic.

I am very interested in hearing about Svein's experience building and sailing his 21.

I also checked out the weather in Ray's neighborhood on the very nice WWW Eight Ocean site.
As it is currently about 22 degrees here, I have no comment.

Ron Eikamp
Dancer, Spring Creek
ro...@is.state.sd.us


Ray Aldridge

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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Ro...@is.state.sd.us (Ron Eikamp) wrote:

>>I have just finished building a Tiki 21 and will apreciate to share my
>>experiance in building and sailing with all intersted people.
>>

>I would be very interested in an account of the sailing qualities of these
>boats. Lots of popular opinion that these boat do not sail well to
>windward. Is this true?

There are several difference in the older Wharram designs and the Tiki
line. The older designs went to windward about as well as you'd
expect a boat with limited lateral resistance to go, but the more
serious problem, in my opinion, was that they were undercanvassed, and
this, combined with a large wetted area, made them slow in light air.

The Tiki designs retain the V-hulls, but several have small low-aspect
keels, and all are more generously canvassed than the older designs.
They should do better, and in fact there's evidence that they do. Bob


Beggs, sailing a Tiki 26, the smallest boat in the last OSTAR,
finished ahead of a number of larger boats, and the OSTAR is largely a
windward race.

Of course, just about any high-performance multi would get to windward
better, but against this must be weighed the vastly greater cost of
such a boat. Speed is very expensive. The Tikis would surely be more
weatherly than many older cruising multis; for example, I'd bet on a
Tiki 30 to be much faster than a Gemini 3400 on all points of sail,
even though the latter isn't too bad a sailor if kept very light.

In bad weather, of course, I'd much rather be in a Wharram than in
just about any of the high-performance multis of similar size. Dick
Newick (who, strangely enough, started out learning from Wharram)
says: "The price of speed is accidents."


Ray

http://eightsea.com/eightsea/home.html


Ron Eikamp

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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>I have just finished building a Tiki 21 and will apreciate to share my
>experiance in building and sailing with all intersted people.
>

I would be very interested in an account of the sailing qualities of these
boats. Lots of popular opinion that these boat do not sail well to
windward. Is this true?

Ron Eikamp
ro...@is.state.sd.us

Jacques Mertens

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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Ro...@is.state.sd.us (Ron Eikamp) wrote:

I don't know about the Tiki but a long time ago, I sailed a Tangaroa
in the North Sea (belonging to a friend) and a modified Narai
(stretched to 45') with marconi rig and additional CBs in St Marteen.
I sailed several thousand miles with the Narai and the thing would not
sail close to the wind at all: let'say 60 degrees on each side in 15
knots with no sea. Downwind it was an exciting and fun boat.
The Tangoroa had a sprit sail and was much worse that the Narai but
then, gentlemen don't go to windward . . .
Jacques Mertens / Mertens-Goossens NA Boat Plans Online!
http://www.bateau.com/
jm...@aol.com


Nelson Gardner

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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In article <49iaec$9...@news1.mpcs.com>, jmer...@bbs.mpcs.com says...
I built and sail a Tiki 26. It tacks through 90 to 95 degrees,
depending on wave condition. The 26 is undercanvased compared to most
cats of similiar size, but the loose footed, gaff, sleeved main sail
is pretty effective. This boat has hit 17 knots on a reach, for
sustained periods. Close hauled it's performance is slightly better
than monohulls. It is hard to beat in sailing value/dollar.


Ray Aldridge

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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Ro...@is.state.sd.us (Ron Eikamp) wrote:

>In article <49fnop$j...@cobia.gulf.net>, pbwr...@fwb.gulf.net (Ray Aldridge) says:
>

>>Bob Beggs, sailing a Tiki 26, the smallest boat in the last OSTAR,
>>finished ahead of a number of larger boats, and the OSTAR is largely a
>>windward race.
>>

>This is very interesting. I hadn't been aware of Bob Beggs Tiki 26 in the OSTAR. Is

>there be an account of the passage somewhere?

I read about it in Tom Jones nifty little book, _Multihull Voyaging_.
He might know more details or it might have gotten more coverage in
the British yachting press.

BTW, Wharram has a web site, though there really isn't a lot of info
there. I don't have the URL handy, but I think its attached to the
sail4u site.


Ray

http://eightsea.com/eightsea/home.html


Walt Turansky

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Nov 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/30/95
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In article <49ijj5$i...@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
I built a Tiki 21 9 years ago and sailed in on the West Coast of
Peninsular Malaysia. The winds were very light and the boat was under
rigged but she tacked through 90 to 95 degrees. I was very happy with the
boat and have plans for the Tiki 31 that I intend to build one day.


Thomas Dalzell

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Nov 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/30/95
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In article <49huqk$9...@cobia.gulf.net> pbwr...@fwb.gulf.net (Ray Aldridge) writes:
>From: pbwr...@fwb.gulf.net (Ray Aldridge)
>Subject: Re: James Wharram Designs
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:22:21 GMT

>Ro...@is.state.sd.us (Ron Eikamp) wrote:

>>In article <49fnop$j...@cobia.gulf.net>, pbwr...@fwb.gulf.net (Ray Aldridge) says:
>>
>>>Bob Beggs, sailing a Tiki 26, the smallest boat in the last OSTAR,
>>>finished ahead of a number of larger boats, and the OSTAR is largely a
>>>windward race.
>>>

That was cool, I saw pictures in Multihulls (the french mag). Was he the
shortest boat? or the shortest multi? Whatever the case I don't think Tiki 26
shows too much evidence of windward performance features. I like the sails,
but the hull and absence of board is difficult to justify, which may explain
the keels on the Tiki 30, though they will increase the surface area more.

It is still hard to see any multihull with worse wetted surface area
stats. Without a board that pretty much puts her in worst place to windward.
What I love about these great boats is that they say they are going to keep it
simple, and they really do, not an exotic piece of hardware, other than the
sail, in them. And actual provision for motor mounts traillers, etc...

Thomas

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