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FRANK C

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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Anyone have experience applying two-part polyurethane? Are the
advantages as clear as the marketing copy would have one believe?

laxmacs

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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Absolutely!! The finish will last 3-5 times as long and will retain it's
gloss for a corresponding period as well. Spend a "lot of time" on your
prep work and you'll have a near permanent high gloss finish. My 38 footer
was imroned in 1983 and the finish is still terrific. I get complements
each spring. Good luck!
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Steve

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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Yes, I have used it for about 10 years. I find it stands up very well to UV
and is tougher than other marine single part paints.

For best results it should be sprayed, but I've seen some nice result from
roller followed by drawing a dry brush through the wet paint. This procedure
was demonstrated by one of me major paint manufactures.

Steve
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Bob Goodman

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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well for a BOAT (not yacht) how about using 2 part cement
floor paint. its epoxy, not polyurethane, and much
tougher. i painted my basement floor with it a few (4)
years ago, and you cant even tell if its any different from
the day i painted it on. even on the stairs, which are
wood, the stuff seems to be tough as nails, wont chip peel
or anything else. and it comes in 2 colors so you can
either have a tan boat or a grey boat. and it only costs
about 50 bucks a gallon. i mean what else could you want?

anybody ever use that on a boat? if there is any reason not
to, please let me know asap because as soon as it warms up i
am going to paint one with it.

bob

Ben Davies

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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I've seen this done. The grey has a Navy look about it. haven't seen the
beige.
bd

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Steve

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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What about UV inhibitors? Is it for outside. The epoxy that I have seen
seems to chaulk in a couple years.
The US Navy uses epoxy paint now on all this ships and I know from
experience that it chaulks in about 3 years.

Steve (USN ret)

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John Abercrombie

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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Bob Goodman <wgoo...@acesag.auburn.edu> wrote:

>well for a BOAT (not yacht) how about using 2 part cement
>floor paint. its epoxy, not polyurethane, and much
>tougher.
>

>anybody ever use that on a boat? if there is any reason not
>to, please let me know asap because as soon as it warms up i
>am going to paint one with it.
>
>bob

Check the UV properties, as it may break down (chalk) in sunlight.
Sherwin Williams 2-part epoxy (TileCladII) is great paint but not
suitable for outside use, for example.

John


Donnici,Charley

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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Below the water line? If your boat is not in the water much when not
used wouldn't the UV exposure be low enough for that use?

Anyone know?

Tan PS

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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Epoxy floor paint.

The manufacturer does not recommend it for outdoor use. The retailer
advised strongly aginst it saying that it could start chalking within 6-9
months (in my tropical sun).

I've applied it onto the interior deck floor (they cost less than half of
polyurethane). These are my observations:
1. It is hard, not exactly flexible.
2. Around internal 90 degree edges, it pulled away from the surface and
flaked/chipped off. This cud be prevented with better surface prep..maybe,
I must admit I did not do a very good job.
3. I have not reached chalking yet, its only been 3 months and I've been
out only several times, still working on the boat most of the time under
shade.
4. The paint is quite thick, so application leaves a thick coating, not
necessarily bad.

The feeling of a newly painted boat, you've gotta be there, wonderful,
especially if it was an old jalopy when u started.

Good luck.

Tan PS

"Bob Goodman" <wgoo...@acesag.auburn.edu> wrote in message
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> well for a BOAT (not yacht) how about using 2 part cement
> floor paint. its epoxy, not polyurethane, and much

> tougher. i painted my basement floor with it a few (4)
> years ago, and you cant even tell if its any different from
> the day i painted it on. even on the stairs, which are
> wood, the stuff seems to be tough as nails, wont chip peel
> or anything else. and it comes in 2 colors so you can
> either have a tan boat or a grey boat. and it only costs
> about 50 bucks a gallon. i mean what else could you want?
>

Ken & Clara

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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If you use epoxy paint where it is exposed to sunlight, it will yellow and
chalk no matter the color used.

Bob Goodman wrote in message <3890976A...@acesag.auburn.edu>...
>well for a BOAT (not yacht) how about using 2 part cement
>floor paint.
>
>bob

Pat Ford

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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>Bob Goodman wrote in message <3890976A...@acesag.auburn.edu>...
>>well for a BOAT (not yacht) how about using 2 part cement
>>floor paint.

I know this kind of advice is unorthodox in this newsgroup lately but:
Why not use MARINE paint????!!!!
The cost differential, (which I guess is the only reason to use a
non-marine paint.) is miniscule.

Seahag

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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I once had the privilege (not) of repainting the topsides of a lobster boat
in Florida. Nice Zspar white. Couldn't figure out why the yellow paint
kept bleeding through. Found out in the end, the 88 yr. old owner had used
yellow road paint. The stuff they paint the lines in the streets with.

Seahag


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Jim Mowreader

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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Bob Goodman sends:

> well for a BOAT (not yacht) how about using 2 part cement

> floor paint. its epoxy, not polyurethane, and much
> tougher. i painted my basement floor with it a few (4)
> years ago, and you cant even tell if its any different from
> the day i painted it on. even on the stairs, which are
> wood, the stuff seems to be tough as nails, wont chip peel
> or anything else. and it comes in 2 colors so you can
> either have a tan boat or a grey boat. and it only costs
> about 50 bucks a gallon. i mean what else could you want?

uhh...to not have my boat look like it was part of the 7th Fleet?


Bob Goodman

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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so, heres what im going to do. im going to paint the bottom
and sides with the epoxy, and inside the hull and cabin. on
the deck i will use something else, since it doesnt matter
much if it leaks a little bit. ive got some water based
polyurethane varnish. it should look nice (the boat is made
of rough cut pine - i will run a belt sander or disc sander
over it to rub off the rough spots)

my goal is to have the cheapest new 24 foot inboard in the
world. the lumber cost $400. the motor is a gas wisconsin
(free), i have lots of pieces off old boats to use. im
putting it together with galvanized deck nails left over
from another job, but i have to buy a few screws and bolts
and stuff. all total, i think i can do it for $600.

i have the keel and several frames done (there are only
five). i hope to get the frames done and on the keel this
week, and start planking the sides.

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