"Electrocuting" Squirrels
LeeAnne
I have a home made squirrel guard on my feeder pole, it's a length of
aluminium stove pipe that they cannot crawl up under between the post and
the guard. Well, until recently I haven't had any problems, it's worked
fine - but now I've got a squirrel who jumps up on the post and then jumps
onto the guard and "bear hugs" it (picture yourself hugging a huge tree
w/both arms and legs and that's what the rodent looks like). He hangs like
that for a few seconds and then launches himself upward to try and grab the
top of the stove pipe - it takes him a few tries (he falls to the ground and
gets up again) but he eventually does it.
What I would like to know is if there is any way to use batteries to run a
low voltage charge either into the stove pipe or the feeder pole itself.
Obviously I don't want this to be something that is going to zap them into
little squirrel heaven, I just want them to get a jolt - I figure after a
couple jolts the squirrels aren't going to try it anymore.
Any ideas are helpful.
LeeAnne
PS - When I had the same guard on my front yard feeder it worked w/out a
hitch. I moved it to the backyard and now this. I'm guessing it's probably
one squirrel who is just a little smarter than the others.
Dusty Bleher
fencers. About $29 at the local garden supply shop. Wired up my feeder,
and it took *1* lesson.
The squirrel is alive and well, and now happily munches the stuff that falls
out of the feeder.
Dusty
San Jose, Ca.
LeeAnne <bar...@ici.net> wrote in message
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Larry Newton
Sharon
slide back down. But each time he tried he got a little further up the
pole, till he got to the feeder. We had a good laugh watching his
determination. I used vaseline, maybe something else would have worked
better. Sharon
Bernie Daniel
Instead of vasoline which has to be reapplied and is "messy" why not
just take some "000" (very fine) steel wool and polish the aluminum up
real good, then coat it with a hard wax like canuba wax. Polish it up
real with a soft cloth and I think your squrriel will find it not so
great to climb on. Wax should last several months.
Bernie Daniel
Cincinnati
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>> low voltage charge either into the stove pipe or the feeder pole itself.
>> Obviously I don't want this to be something that is going to zap them into
>> little squirrel heaven, I just want them to get a jolt - I figure after a
> couple jolts the squirrels aren't going to try it anymore.
I can give you two other choices. Trap this particular squirrel with a
trap, or buy one of the feeders that is battery operated and will give
him a jolt. It's not cheap though......about $100.00.
Andrew Longtin
Andrew Longtin
New Hope, Minnesota
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LeeAnne wrote in message ...
|Hi all,
|
|I have a home made squirrel guard on my feeder pole, it's a length of
|aluminium stove pipe that they cannot crawl up under between the post and
|the guard. Well, until recently I haven't had any problems, it's worked
|fine - but now I've got a squirrel who jumps up on the post and then jumps
|onto the guard and "bear hugs" it (picture yourself hugging a huge tree
|w/both arms and legs and that's what the rodent looks like). He hangs like
|that for a few seconds and then launches himself upward to try and grab the
|top of the stove pipe - it takes him a few tries (he falls to the ground and
|gets up again) but he eventually does it.
|
|What I would like to know is if there is any way to use batteries to run a
|low voltage charge either into the stove pipe or the feeder pole itself.
|Obviously I don't want this to be something that is going to zap them into
|little squirrel heaven, I just want them to get a jolt - I figure after a
|couple jolts the squirrels aren't going to try it anymore.
|
Roger A. Moncrief
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a home made squirrel guard on my feeder pole, it's a length of
> aluminium stove pipe that they cannot crawl up under between the post and
> the guard. Well, until recently I haven't had any problems, it's worked
> fine - but now I've got a squirrel who jumps up on the post and then jumps
> onto the guard and "bear hugs" it (picture yourself hugging a huge tree
> w/both arms and legs and that's what the rodent looks like). He hangs like
> that for a few seconds and then launches himself upward to try and grab the
> top of the stove pipe - it takes him a few tries (he falls to the ground and
> gets up again) but he eventually does it.
>
> What I would like to know is if there is any way to use batteries to run a
> low voltage charge either into the stove pipe or the feeder pole itself.
> Obviously I don't want this to be something that is going to zap them into
> little squirrel heaven, I just want them to get a jolt - I figure after a
> couple jolts the squirrels aren't going to try it anymore.
>
> Any ideas are helpful.
>
> LeeAnne
>
> PS - When I had the same guard on my front yard feeder it worked w/out a
> hitch. I moved it to the backyard and now this. I'm guessing it's probably
> one squirrel who is just a little smarter than the others.
LeeAnne,
I don't know about electrocution but you better do something quick.
Squirrels learn by watching other squirrels. Pretty soon you will have
every squirrel in the neighborhood doing it. FWIW a pellet rifle works
for me. Good luck.
--
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good. The grease gets into the fur of the squirrels and can create
problems with shedding water and interferes with the squirrels body
temperature. I also read somewhere that the squirrels will try to lick
it off and in the process ingest the grease. Both potentially killing
the critter. I haven't used grease because of this.
Any truth to this?
If not, I may start using vaseline too.
Jeff
LeeAnne
What exactly is this contraption? Something that zaps you if you walk over
it?
I've heard of the keep your pets in the yard type of fence systems, but
those require you to have a special collar on your pet.
Thanks
LeeAnne
Dusty Bleher wrote in message <93275529...@news.remarQ.com>...
>I bought one of those "keep your pet out the garden" kind of electric
>fencers. About $29 at the local garden supply shop. Wired up my feeder,
>and it took *1* lesson.
>
>The squirrel is alive and well, and now happily munches the stuff that
falls
>out of the feeder.
>
>Dusty
>San Jose, Ca.
>
>
>
>LeeAnne <bar...@ici.net> wrote in message
>news:Uy1m3.1927$5X1....@news.goodnet.com...
LeeAnne
LeeAnne
Larry Newton wrote in message ...
>Try greasing the aluminum, electricity won't do it.
>
LeeAnne
I think I'll be looking for some larger stove pipe this week.
Thanks
LeeAnne
Andrew Longtin wrote in message <7ndldp$8ke$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...
>What size stove pipe, I use 7 inch diameter..
>
>
>Andrew Longtin
>New Hope, Minnesota
>ALongtin *at* worldnet *dot* att *dot* net
>
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>
>LeeAnne wrote in message ...
LeeAnne
L
Roger A. Moncrief wrote in message <379B0B...@ix.netcom.com>...
Dusty Bleher
cattle and such critters. It's intended for use to keep pets out of
gardens, or in their enclosures. The big industrial grade electric fencers
have enough "zap" that many of them feature "weed cutting" capability, or
the power to energize miles of fences. The little fencers have about enough
"zap" to keep you puppy out of the daisy's. It'll supply a nice surprise
w/o doing any damage.
My feeder is a plastic hanging one. I was fortunate in that it had a steel
cable in the center for that purpose. My hanger is one of those "Shepard's
crook" metal hangers. With the butt end of that driven 3 feet into the
ground, I've got a great ground source. The steel wire on the plastic
hanger provides a great connection to that ground plane. So, I used
"chicken wire" to make a cover for the "roof" of the feeder. I wrapped a
couple of the strands of that 'roof' around the grounded cable. That way
the entire 'roof' of the feeder was a large grounded area.
Next, I took a 4in. wide strip of the chicken wire--finished side down (so
as not to snag the birds), cut side up--and wrapped it around the body of
the feeder. Twisting the wires together at the joint to make a tight
fitting sleeve around the body of the feeder. Since the roof has an
overhang of a couple of inches, the electrode on the roof doesn't even get
to the edge of the roof, and the electrode wrapped around the feeder is
under and inside that roof; it's unlikely (except for a very large bird,
impossible actually) that a bird would ever be able to contact both at the
same time. *BUT*, my squirrel found out that by hanging from the cable, he
could reach around the roof ledge, and get to the seeds. Stretched out,
that critter is probably 14in. long.
I attached the ground of the mini-fencer to my satellite antenna rod (a 4in.
diameter steel post sunk at least a meter into the ground by the house. And
ran a single wire from the "hot" side of the fencer to an alligator clip
that I clipped onto the electrode wrapped around the body of the feeder.
Then I had a circuit. Via the ground, I had everything from the roof on up
grounded. The strip around the feeder completed the circuit.
The addition of the screen on the roof gave Mr. squirrel an easy grasp
point. It was only a matter of time before he'd touch the hot electrode.
And when he did, he leaped straight out away from the feeder and did a rocky
the flying squirrel imitation--straight down. He hit the ground pealing out
at near mach 2. He was back the next day, but he NEVER even looked at the
feeder again. And in 2 years, I've not had a "squirrel problem"... So, say
what you will, my solution didn't require killing a squirrel, and has
worked... While I've not plugged the fencer in, it's still in place and
ready in case a newcomer needs an education...
Dusty
San Jose, Ca.
LeeAnne <bar...@ici.net> wrote in message
news:xgZm3.369$X4....@news.goodnet.com...
> Hi Dusty,
>
> What exactly is this contraption? Something that zaps you if you walk
over
> it?
>
> I've heard of the keep your pets in the yard type of fence systems, but
> those require you to have a special collar on your pet.
>
> Thanks
> LeeAnne
>
> Dusty Bleher wrote in message <93275529...@news.remarQ.com>...
> >I bought one of those "keep your pet out the garden" kind of electric
> >fencers. About $29 at the local garden supply shop. Wired up my feeder,
> >and it took *1* lesson.
> >
> >The squirrel is alive and well, and now happily munches the stuff that
> falls
> >out of the feeder.
> >
> >Dusty
> >San Jose, Ca.
> >
> >
> >
> >LeeAnne <bar...@ici.net> wrote in message
> >news:Uy1m3.1927$5X1....@news.goodnet.com...
Sharon
grass, I only did it the one time. It didn't work so I didn't use it
again. It would probably be a waste of your time if you tried it.
Sharon
Andrew Longtin
|money; squirrels can easily chew and gain a foothold. Only "steel" baffles
|cannot be chewed!
Stove pipe baffles work great!! I have never seen a squirrel get around one
yet!! They are way cheaper to make then what the bird stores gouge you for to
buy one!!
JJCardinal
The grease gets into the fur of the squirrels and can create problems with
shedding water and interferes with the squirrels body temperature >
Yes, and remember the Exxon - Valdeze? Birds who get the grease on their
feathers from off the pole (an they do, my sister is a wildlife rehabber)
cannot preen the grease off. Very unwise to do this. Effective baffles are
available at most full service birding/nature stores for less than $20.
Dusty Bleher
Grease is grease, "organic" or not. Whether solid or liquid, fats and other
lipids are still absorbed by organic materials. And no matter what kind, it
*will* screw up their fur. The degree of problem will be related to how
much they get on them, where it's located on their bodies, and to a lesser
degree the exact nature of the material.
Without access to some sort of detergent or way to remove it, it will linger
and not easily break down. Although being non-petroleum based, it's not
directly poisonous, I'd guess that it's not that good for their fur--which
is where they get their warmth and water resistance. In most cases, they're
going to have wait for a new coat before they can be rid of it.
I don't like squirrels around my feeders either. I don't even mind throwing
things at them, soaking them, or giving them a little "jolt" to further
their education and/or speed them on their way. While "zapping" them might
seem cruel, it does nothing to them to effect their lives (except briefly
speed them up considerably (:-)!). I think treating them with grease is
sort of harsh. Please refrain...
Dusty
San Jose, Ca.
Karen <kar...@nwnexus.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1206dad38...@news.nwnexus.com...
> In article <379C3C7B...@ct1.nai.net>, jadu...@ct1.nai.net says...
> > I have read in a couple of bird feeding books that greasing poles is not
> > good. The grease gets into the fur of the squirrels and can create
> > problems with shedding water and interferes with the squirrels body
> > temperature. I also read somewhere that the squirrels will try to lick
> > it off and in the process ingest the grease. Both potentially killing
> > the critter. I haven't used grease because of this.
> >
> > Any truth to this?
> >
> > If not, I may start using vaseline too.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Sharon wrote:
> > >
> > > I tried it, each time the squirrel tried to go up the pole, he would
> > > slide back down. But each time he tried he got a little further up
the
> > > pole, till he got to the feeder. We had a good laugh watching his
> > > determination. I used vaseline, maybe something else would have
worked
> > > better. Sharon
> > >
> >
>
> I use Crisco and slather it on the pole thick enough that they don't want
> to mess with trying to climb it. It's more "organic" so I don't worry
> about polluting or poisoning anything.
>
> Karen
John MacArthur
greasing poles. Sqirrels can NOT climb large size PVC pipe!
My bird feeder is on top of about six feet of four inch PVC pipe (slid
around the regular steel pipe) and, in the six years it has been there,
NO sqirrel has EVER climbed it.
It is worth the effort just to watch them try, though! They sit at the
bottom and look up, then jump as high as they can jump, try to grab the
pole (which is far too big for their little arms), and slide right back
down to the bottom!. Repeat. Etc.
Enjoy!
John MacArthur
Marlboro, VT
lynda_m...@hotmail.com
but my husband was mussing about PVC pipe and wondering if it would
work!
As far as the grease goes, that was my first idea when we first put
the feeder up. I got some Tender Flake lard and smeared it on the
pole. Know what the squirrels did? Licked it off. Uh huh! Never
got any of it on their fur at all. Just on their grubby little paws.
Enjoyed it too. I scratched that idea right there and then.
I should have known better, they love suet, why wouldn't they love
lard?
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:09:39 -0400, John MacArthur <jm...@sover.net>
wrote:
lynda_m...@hotmail.com
As I mentioned to John, squirrels ate the grease I put on
the pole last year. Sometimes it's good for fur. I give my cats a
teaspoon full of Vasoline for hairballs. My vet suggested it, so I
assume other fur bearing animals need it occasionally as well.
Where I would be worried about grease would be birds getting
on their feathers.
Lynda
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:34:13 -0700, "Dusty Bleher" <du...@fsinc.com>
wrote:
LeeAnne
(now I have the cups of water) anyway, when I went to move the pole at the
end of the summer I got disgusting, dirty, brownish-yellow vaseline all over
myself. I'll never use that stuff again.
LeeAnne
Sharon wrote in message <379CE997...@flash.net>...
>It didn't seem to bother the squirrel any, he just rubbed it off in the
>grass, I only did it the one time. It didn't work so I didn't use it
>again. It would probably be a waste of your time if you tried it.
>Sharon
>
>Jeffrey Dutton wrote:
>>
LeeAnne
PVC would stop him. He jumps on it and bear hugs it -- like if you were to
run full speed at a huge tree and jump up as high as you can and wrap your
arms and legs around the tree to hold yourself there--that's what he does.
Sometimes he gets up, sometimes he doesn't.
L
John MacArthur wrote in message <379E03...@sover.net>...
Vickie Liska
catch-all on bottem. You should have seen my resident red squirrel(who had
been feasting on my seeds for 2 yrs.) trying to get on the feeder. The
little guy jumped on ,slid off, jumped on, slid off for about 5 min.- I
couldn't quit laughing!!!Oh, I forgot to say it's hanging on a rope, so he
had to climb tree, jump, slip, over and over.What a hoot! Vickienews:kBGn3.248$W4....@news.goodnet.com...
Dusty Bleher
it, they do like suet, don't they? I guess I had visions of them having it
all over their bellies and legs. And I thought that might be a bit tough on
'em. But licking it off their paws must have been a hoot to watch...(:-)!
I've had cats a long time, and I'd never hear of giving them Vaseline for
hairballs. Certainly a new one on me. OTOH; when you consider all of the
things they will lick and eat...I guess the Vaseline must be like ice-cream
to them...
Dusty
<lynda_m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:379ec8da...@news.videotron.net...
> >> > I have read in a couple of bird feeding books that greasing poles is
not
> >> > good. The grease gets into the fur of the squirrels and can create
> >> > problems with shedding water and interferes with the squirrels body
> >> > temperature. I also read somewhere that the squirrels will try to
lick
> >> > it off and in the process ingest the grease. Both potentially killing
> >> > the critter. I haven't used grease because of this.
> >> >
> >> > Any truth to this?
> >> >
> >> > If not, I may start using vaseline too.
> >> >
> >> > Jeff
> >> >
> >> > Sharon wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I tried it, each time the squirrel tried to go up the pole, he
would
> >> > > slide back down. But each time he tried he got a little further up
> >the
> >> > > pole, till he got to the feeder. We had a good laugh watching his
> >> > > determination. I used vaseline, maybe something else would have
> >worked
> >> > > better. Sharon
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
Dusty Bleher
As for the squirrels, since installing my "squirrel zapper". The score has
been: Dusty-1 Squirrels-0.
Dey may be dumb! But dey ain't stupid! One lesson was all it took...
Dusty
San Jose, Ca.
<lynda_m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:379fcb8...@news.videotron.net...
> Hi Dusty,
> Found out about the Vaseline in an odd way. I had a
> pretty orange and white long haird cat named George when I was first
<good post snipped>
lynda_m...@hotmail.com
Found out about the Vaseline in an odd way. I had a
pretty orange and white long haird cat named George when I was first
kept indoors. He used to go a little crazy every so often and run
circles around the top of the bed, dash down the hall , jump into the
bathtub, do a few quick laps around, jump out, down the hall again and
back to the bed. My husband decided to paint the bedroom and at the
time he was on an evening shift. When he headed off to work he left
the paint rollers soaking in the bathtub in paint thinner. I shut the
plastic shower curtain thinking that would discourage George from
jumping in, but it didn't. He went racing down the hall, took a big
leap into the tub and landed right in the paint thinner with all four
paws. I was really upset, his fur was covered with yellow tinted
paint thinner and he was howling. I called my brother who lived 3
doors down and we held George in the kitchen sink and gave him a good
bath. However the paint thinner had burned his paws and he had licked
some it. I called our vet and got him in, and he told me to rub
Vaseline over George's paw pads and he told me that the Vaseline would
also help the thinner go through George's system better in case he had
injested some of it. That's when he told me that a little Vaseline
would help with furballs too. It worked and George was fine.
After that I've been using the Vaseline on all my cats when
I run out of the special tube stuff you get from the Vet for
hairballs. Most cats will readily lick it right off the tip of your
finger. Not too much though, just a little dab. My cats usually live
right into their late teens so I assume I haven't poisoned any..;)
Yes it was a hoot watching those squirrels licking the lard
off the pole and their paws. It was maddening though..;) I've been
keeping a scoreboard and so far it's Squirrels-112, Me-0. *sigh*
Lynda
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:57:27 -0700, "Dusty Bleher" <du...@fsinc.com>
wrote:
>Yeah, saw your post after I'd already made mine. Certainly when I think of
>it, they do like suet, don't they? I guess I had visions of them having it
>all over their bellies and legs. And I thought that might be a bit tough on
>'em. But licking it off their paws must have been a hoot to watch...(:-)!
>
>I've had cats a long time, and I'd never hear of giving them Vaseline for
>hairballs. Certainly a new one on me. OTOH; when you consider all of the
>things they will lick and eat...I guess the Vaseline must be like ice-cream
>to them...
>
>Dusty
>
>
><lynda_m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Roy Harvey
>Oh, I forgot to say it's hanging on a rope
Fair warning - every time I've hung a feeder using a rope the
squirrels have chewed through the rope dumping the feeder on the
ground. One even broke from this abuse.
Now I hang them using steel with hooks in the ends. The material for
one came from the frame of a lawn type political campaign sign. It
was just a simple steel U, with at least some coating to inhibit rust.
Easily bent to fit my needs.
Roy
jonas...@hotmail.com
>Can't shoot the little buggers, it's not in me to do that.
I used to work with a fellow who had a squirrel problem. Seems he
had a big old house and the squirrels were getting in the attic and
generally making a nuisance of themselves.
After a few false starts he decided the only way was to shoot the
little fellows. He got some twenty two shorts and his rifle and
sneaked up and did one in. Said he really felt bad about it but he
had to do something. Time passed and he continued his squirrel
control efforts but the squirrels became smarter and smarter and it
became a real challenge to bag one. After a while his gentle nature
was went by the wayside and he found he really enjoyed clobbering the
little buggers. Alas the killer instinct in him came to the fore and
his joy in life was mercilessly hunting down and dispatching the
little critters.
At the time I worked for a corporation who were downsizing and
cutting expenses. The general theme of all the meetings was to tell
us of the loss of more benefits and the addition of more
responsibilities. The managers were always careful to tell us how
they hated to do it but...
Our squirrel hunter one day related his experiences with his
squirrels and said that of course they hated to do it at first but,
after a while they really came to enjoy screwing the employees.
The analogy was quite appropriate and it came as no surprise to us
that the squirrel hunter was on the next list of employees who were
dispensible.
Suzie-Q
>
> The analogy was quite appropriate and it came as no surprise to us
> that the squirrel hunter was on the next list of employees who were
> dispensible.
Which was probably a real bad idea. He'll be the one who shows up
to "dispatch" the guy who fired him.
8^)~~~~ Sue
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Snag
only at the top . He'll climb partway up the pole and grab the Slinkie
and find himself on the ground . Again . And again . And again , ad
infinitum . Eventually it will sink in and you can stop laughing at him
. We live in a clearing out in the woods , squirrels were a real problem
with the feeders until we did this .
--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crotchety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !
jmcquown
> On 5/2/2020 3:10 PM, charl...@comcast.net wrote:
>> On Friday, July 23, 1999 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, LeeAnne wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
> only at the top . He'll climb partway up the pole and grab the Slinkie
> and find himself on the ground . Again . And again . And again , ad
> infinitum . Eventually it will sink in and you can stop laughing at him
> . We live in a clearing out in the woods , squirrels were a real problem
> with the feeders until we did this .
>
Considering these posts are from 1999 I certainly hope not.... Just buy
a Squirrel Buster. bromebirdcare.com. I've had squirrels try to eat the
seed and they can't get to it. They have to settle for the seed on the
ground. No harm to the squirrels (certainly not electrocution!) and the
birds eat just fine.
Jill
Snag
Slinkie method provides endless hours of amusement while doing the
squirrels no harm - other than tiring them out .
jmcquown
which this thread restarted) seemed to think it was a grand ida.
Jill
gex...@gmail.com
> Hi all,
> I have a home made squirrel guard on my feeder pole, it's a length of
> the guard. Well, until recently I haven't had any problems, it's worked
> fine - but now I've got a squirrel who jumps up on the post and then jumps
> onto the guard and "bear hugs" it (picture yourself hugging a huge tree
> w/both arms and legs and that's what the rodent looks like). He hangs like
> that for a few seconds and then launches himself upward to try and grab the
> top of the stove pipe - it takes him a few tries (he falls to the ground and
> gets up again) but he eventually does it.
>
> What I would like to know is if there is any way to use batteries to run a
> low voltage charge either into the stove pipe or the feeder pole itself.
> Obviously I don't want this to be something that is going to zap them into
> little squirrel heaven, I just want them to get a jolt - I figure after a
> couple jolts the squirrels aren't going to try it anymore.
>
> Any ideas are helpful.
>
> LeeAnne
>
> PS - When I had the same guard on my front yard feeder it worked w/out a
> hitch. I moved it to the backyard and now this. I'm guessing it's probably
> one squirrel who is just a little smarter than the others.
super70s
that small.
Snag
metalworking shop . The real problem is getting the little buggers
strapped down on it without losing a couple of fingers .
rickm...@gmail.com
Savageduck
(in article<46361af7-291d-429c...@googlegroups.com>):
> Have used this item with some success: tough bird products tbfg. Just search for it online. Shocks squirrels, raccoons, etc. uses a 9 volt battery.
<https://www.amazon.com/Rugged-Ranch-Products-100063928-Squirrelinator/dp/B0046VJ8RU>
<https://www.forestry-suppliers.com/product_pages/products.php?mi=44491&itemnum=35803>
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Regards,
Savageduck