Son bitten by seagull - HELP!
Albatrosser
to get close enough to a seagull to grab it by the leg as it tried to
fly away (silly I know, but he's only 10 and boys will be boys - he
likes birds and said he just wanted to hold and stroke it).
The gull wasn't amused and bit him several times on his hands as he
tried to hold it - he ran inside crying with his hands covered in
blood, with several fairly deep scratches.
I've washed and disinfected the wounds and put plasters on and he
seems okay in himself (suitably chastised and life lesson learned),
but I know my wife is going to go absolutely mental that I 'let it
happen' when she gets home.
I know that gulls are not the cleanest of birds and I'm worried that
it may have given him a nasty infection. Does anyone know what
diseases seagulls can carry? It was a 'big grey one', which leads me
to believe that it was probably a herring gull.
My boy's had his tetanus jab, but I'm beginning to wonder if I should
take him to the hospital and get him checked over. Can gulls carry
rabies or hepatitis?
John Tucker
I'd call his doctor's office and talk to one of the nurses. They'll be able
to tell you what you need to do if anything.
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Al Johnston
wouldn't heart to have a doctor check him out. Just be thankful he wasn't
pecked in the eye. He was probably trying to live up to his father's name
"Albatrosser" :-) Hopefully he now knows the meaning of the old expression
"once bitten, twice shy".
Al
"Albatrosser" <albat...@spam-me-not.com> wrote in message
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Les Stewart
> My boy's had his tetanus jab, but I'm beginning to wonder if I should
> take him to the hospital and get him checked over. Can gulls carry
> rabies or hepatitis?
Only mammals can get or carry rabies.
From U. S. Center for Disease Control
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Les Stewart
Beaumont, TX
NaDeana
Take him to the doctor.
tech27
Imagine having a father who is so fucking stupid he consults an newsgroup
instead of calling a doctor when he has concerns about his son. I really
hope you use the same logic when you get short of breath and have tingling
sensations or numbness in your extremities.
In the meantime, take a handful of SSRI's and wash them down with a bottle
of gin.
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Steve in NC
You know that gulls carry rabies??
DON'T YOU!!!
krusty kritter
>Only mammals can get or carry rabies.
Have you ever seen a flock of seagulls and turkey vultures eating the rotting
carcass of a sea lion or an elephant seal? I have, and I sure wouldn't want to
be pecked by a gull that had been doing that. I would definitely take the kid
to a doctor...
# * 0 * #
^
Jon Isaacs
>instead of calling a doctor when he has concerns about his son.
Pretty hard to imagine. What's even worse is that the guy posted to a group
that you read. Talk about stupid, we should all lose points for that one.
jon isaacs
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April G.
> The boy should be put in foster care immediately.
<rest of post deleted>
Actually, a physician doesn't necessarily know all the answers to
questions such as these. They can tell you all about human diseases --
but what diseases animals do and don't carry. . . better to consult with
an avian vet on this one (a regular small mammal vet might not know the
appropriate answers either).
In fact, the advise I would trust most from this thread so far is the
one that came from the bird bander, who has had experience with injuries
from wild birds.
April G.
(hoping this comes through coherently, since I'm tired right now)
tech27
"April G." <apr...@NOSPAMsatx.rr.com> wrote in message
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> tech27 wrote:
>> The boy should be put in foster care immediately.
>
> <rest of post deleted>
>
> Actually, a physician doesn't necessarily know all the answers to
> questions such as these. They can tell you all about human diseases --
> but what diseases animals do and don't carry. . . better to consult with
> an avian vet on this one (a regular small mammal vet might not know the
> appropriate answers either).
> came from the bird bander, who has had experience with injuries from wild
> birds.
>
> April G.
> (hoping this comes through coherently, since I'm tired right now)
Are you fucking nuts? If a person is concerned about contact with a bird, he
should see a DOCTOR! If you get bitten by a snake are you going to see a
herpetologist or a doctor? When you get hit by a car, I hope you go to a
dealership instead of a hospital. Idiot!
April G.
>
>>tech27 wrote:
>
> Are you fucking nuts? If a person is concerned about contact with a bird, he
> should see a DOCTOR! If you get bitten by a snake are you going to see a
> herpetologist or a doctor?
I don't understand why there's a need to get offensive here. The boy was
NOT bitten by a poisonous animal that is endangering his life this very
second. There was certainly enough time in this situation to gather
appropriate information and then take that to a physician so they can
take the appropriate action (IF a physician is necessary).
But, to answer that, if you ARE bitten by a poisonous snake, a doctor
is, indeed, a good idea. However, you had better be sure that you're
going to a SPECIALIST who has antivenom. We live in Texas and my husband
is a physician (Internal Medicine) here. I just asked him and he DOESN'T
have antivenom in his office. Neither does the urgent care center based
in his hospital.
My husband says the following:
"If bitten by a snake you should call poison control immediately and
they will direct you to the appropriate facility."
So, in fact, you are technically incorrect on the poisonous snake
reference here. Rushing to the WRONG doctor might be deadly.
And now I will sit back and only continue to participate in discussions
with people who can participate in a civil manner.
Cheers!
April G.
San Antonio, TX
David Wright
You know, tech, you need to back on your anger management meds.
April's response was perfectly reasonable. You, on the other hand,
are foaming at the mouth.
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These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
tech27
> tech27 wrote:
>
>>
>>>tech27 wrote:
> I don't understand why there's a need to get offensive here.
Neither do I. Just got too excited. Sorry.
The boy was
> NOT bitten by a poisonous animal that is endangering his life this very
> second. There was certainly enough time in this situation to gather
> appropriate information and then take that to a physician so they can take
> the appropriate action (IF a physician is necessary).
My only point was that if you are sufficiently concerned about any situation
you should seek help from the appropriate professionals, not FIRST post to a
newsgroup.
>
> But, to answer that, if you ARE bitten by a poisonous snake, a doctor is,
> indeed, a good idea. However, you had better be sure that you're going to
> a SPECIALIST who has antivenom. We live in Texas and my husband is a
> physician (Internal Medicine) here. I just asked him and he DOESN'T have
> antivenom in his office. Neither does the urgent care center based in his
> hospital.
>
> My husband says the following:
> "If bitten by a snake you should call poison control immediately and they
> will direct you to the appropriate facility."
>
> So, in fact, you are technically incorrect on the poisonous snake
> reference here. Rushing to the WRONG doctor might be deadly.
Okay, change my advise to remain calm, try to maintain elevation above the
heart of the entry point, and call 911.
>
> And now I will sit back and only continue to participate in discussions
> with people who can participate in a civil manner.
How about uncivil people who apologize? )-;
tech27
"David Wright" <wri...@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> In article <2I9ad.15240$NC6....@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net>,
> tech27 <tec...@mail.anonymizer.com> wrote:
>
> You know, tech, you need to back on your anger management meds.
Yeah, I ran out and had to wait for the pharmacy to get a repeat
authourization.
> April's response was perfectly reasonable. You, on the other hand,
> are foaming at the mouth.
I was bitten by a rabid skunk. Much better now thanks, but all those goddam
needles really put me in a bad mood.
April G.
>
>
> How about uncivil people who apologize? )-;
Actually, that is even better! Thank you! But, in the end, best to steer
ckear of nipping gulls and venomous snakes!
Actually, the fear of snakes in Texas is overrated. It's the ants that
get you every time! (take it from someone who has met fire ants feet on)
Now, back to our regularly scheduled newsgroup!
Arocketship7
>Actually, the fear of snakes in Texas is overrated. It's the ants that
>get you every time! (take it from someone who has met fire ants feet on)
>
Yes, and in East Texas we had those huge harvester ants that were everywhere.
Got stung by some ended up with blood posioning.
April G.
> On 11 Oct 2004 00:42:40 GMT, arocke...@aol.com (Arocketship7)
In a really distant way. Oftentimes it's birders who run into "road
hazards" such as ants and snakes because we're the ones out in the
fields where they reside.
Also, ants and snakes are food for some birds (though I think it's
snakes more than ants).
April G.
Al Johnston
quantities of ants but you beat me to it.
Al
"Malcolm" <Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> In article <TZvad.13833$iC4....@fe2.texas.rr.com>, April G.
> <apr...@NOSPAMsatx.rr.com> writes
> lots of different kinds from flycatchers to the smaller gulls when they
> fly.
>
> --
> Malcolm
Arocketship7
>>>get you every time! (take it from someone who has met fire ants feet on)
>>>
>>
>>Yes, and in East Texas we had those huge harvester ants that were
>everywhere.
>>Got stung by some ended up with blood posioning.
>
>
>How does this pertain to rec.birds?
Seems that ants around here are attracted to the seed as much as the birds.
NatD
Click above to read all about rabies
1-2 people have died from rabies but over 7,000 cases are reported each
year.
Correction; it is ALWAYS something to worry about. The low incidence of
rabies did not just happen, it was due to an extensive vaccination of
domestic animals, and education of people regarding wild animals who
potentially carry rabies.
Its on ongoing battle, anyone who thinks they may have been in contact with
a rabid animal should seek medical attention.
Gulls are not carriers of rabies, but probably carry bacteria, if the skin
was broken its best to seek medical attention.
Gulls eat anything, rotten food, etc.
"David G Fisher" <dav...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Correction, about one or two people die each year from rabies in the U.S.
> At
> the turn of the last century, it was only about 100 per year, so it's
> never
> been something to worry about.
>
> Dave
>
> "David G Fisher" <dav...@home.com> wrote in message
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>> There are 285 million people in the U.S., and about four die of rabies
> each
>> year.
>>
>> It's one of the most over hyped subjects you'll ever see. Right up there
>> with shark attacks (humans kill 100 million sharks each year, and sharks
>> kill about 10 humans from a worldwide population of 6 billion).
>>
>> I wouldn't worry about rabies. :-)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> "Albatrosser" <albat...@spam-me-not.com> wrote in message
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Peter Jason
"NaDeana" <nad...@eastlinkGOTTATAKETHISOUT.ca> wrote in message
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I can sympathise with the problem because I was bitten by a rat when I was
about 5.
I thought it was a squirrel, but mother did a good impression of hysterics
and panic and dragged me to a doctor who injected me with copious amounts of
penicillin - which hurt more than the rat. The doctor kept this up for
several days, much to my mounting rage!
I similar event occured when I was 20 when I picked up a mouse by its tail.
This was no ordinary inbred pet mouse but one of the feral variety. It
managed to climb up its own tail and sink its incisors into my hand and I
couldnt pull it off. Much blood and rage was spilled!
Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com
> taking the idiot easy response route...
>
> You know that gulls carry rabies??
>
> DON'T YOU!!!
Nah. They can bite, but basically gulls just wanna have fun.
MINE! MINE!
SBH
Mike Z. Helm
>The boy should be put in foster care immediately.
>
>Imagine having a father who is so fucking stupid he consults an newsgroup
>instead of calling a doctor when he has concerns about his son.
I think he's more concerned about getting in trouble with the wife, but
I gotta agree with your above statement despite your evil top-posting
ways.
He says they're "fairly deep scratches" - whatever that means.
If they're really deep, he should probably go to the ER, but if they're
just "scratches", then I'd just keep them clean and bandaged. Hydrogen
peroxide and an antibiotic ointment and band-aids (or "plasters" if he
prefers to call them that) should suffice.
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Mike Z. Helm
<albat...@spam-me-not.com>
>My son was out playing with his friends today when somehow he managed
>to get close enough to a seagull to grab it by the leg as it tried to
>fly away (silly I know, but he's only 10 and boys will be boys - he
>likes birds and said he just wanted to hold and stroke it).
>
Just noticed the date on this post.
So did your kid die or what?
Or did the missus kill you when she got home?
