Caloi - Do they fail?

[cgburns]

Have any of you had experience with Caloi frames breaking? Any of them break obecause of
defective welding? Thanks, CB

[cgburns]

[thomas....@par.se]

> cgburns <cgb...@popd.ix.netcom.com> writes:
> Have any of you had experience with Caloi frames breaking? Any of them break obecause of
> defective welding? Thanks, CB
>
>
>>>>

Caloi ??

Caloi is just a brand.
The frames are made by Eddy Mercxx.
They don´t brake easy.....

[cgburns]

I believe Caloi's steel road frames are made by Eddie M. But there mouuntain fbike frames are
made out of 6000 series aluminum (hardtail) or 7000 aluminum (full suspension) in-house. I'm
interested in experience with aluminum mtn. bike frame failure. thanks, CB

[Tullio]

Here's the deal. Caloi is a company that manufactures bicycles in
Brazil. They are very popular in South America, and they have
recently established a dealer network in the US. They sell mostly
mountain bikes.

The Motorola professional road racing team has had its frames (all
steel) built in Belgium by Eddy Merckx for a number of years.
Starting in the 1995 season, they received a frame sponsorship from
Caloi. In return for Caloi's sponsorhip dollars, the Motorola team
has agreed to put Caloi decals onto their Eddy Merckx bikes. These
bikes share NOTHING with the Caloi bikes that are sold to consumers.
They are Eddy Merckx bikes through and through.

To further confuse things, the Motorola team now occasionally rides
titanium frames that are built to Eddy Merckx specifications by
Litespeed. So, these bikes are labeled Caloi, designed by Eddy
Merckx, and manufactured by Litespeed.

Todd
Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery
LaSalle, IL
e-mail: tul...@TheRamp.net

[Ryun G. Pavlicek]

Caloi is a brand and they are located in Brazil. As far as I
know the only Calois made by Merckx are ridden by the Motorola
Cycling team.
--
Ryun Pavlicek
Dept of Sociology
University of Virginia

[Matthew Provost]

In article <4fft3j$4...@stella.tip.net> , thomas....@par.se writes:
>Caloi is just a brand.
>The frames are made by Eddy Mercxx.

>They don!t brake easy.....

Caloi is a Brazilian bike company. I haven't seen any imported into the
US, but they may be exported elsewhere. they are cheaply mass-produced
and do break quite often. they are certainly not made by anybody named
Eddy Mercxx. (considering that name would be unpronounceable in
portuguese). he may make frames using the same name ( i don't know why
one would want to be identified with such a bad company though). but if
we are talking about broken frames, you have proabably bought a bad
Brazilian bike.

[Cycletron]

In article <4fitni$u...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Matthew Provost
<mpro...@ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:

Caloi's road frames are made by Eddy M. The Motorola team used to ride
Eddy M. frames but now rides Caloi frames... the paint schemes are exactly
the same as Eddy M's frames.

One of my local LBS carries Caloi's MTB frames. Haven't seen too many out
on the road/trails... I guess is people don't know anything about them...
and none of the MTB stars ride them... thus, no brand name identification.

[Frank Gonzalez]

On Feb 09, 1996 16:34:59 in article <Re: Caloi - Do they fail?>,

'thomas....@par.se' wrote:


>> Have any of you had experience with Caloi frames breaking? Any of them

>break obecause of
>> defective welding? Thanks, CB

>> ^^^^^^^

>Caloi is just a brand.
>The frames are made by Eddy Mercxx.

>They don´t brake easy.....

I believe that CB's original posting might be referring to the MTB Aluminum
frames which are produced by the Brazilian company in Jacksonville, FL.
They are oversized Alcan aluminum with very big industrial looking welds.
I've seen a few down here but regretfully enough can't comment on their
durability. The steel road frames as Thomas indicated are made by Eddy
Merckx in Belgium, The Titanium ones that Motorola sometimes uses are made
by Litespeed in the good old USof A.

--
Frank Gonzalez from Miami, FL, USA
champ...@usa.pipeline.com

[Clint Harshaw]

In article <4fft3j$4...@stella.tip.net>

thomas....@par.se writes:

>Caloi is just a brand.
>The frames are made by Eddy Mercxx.

>They don4t brake easy.....
^^^^^

This is partially accurate. The Motorola team is indeed riding bikes
with a Caloi decal set. Their steel bikes are made by Eddy Merkcx.
A closer inspection reveals the decal "Caloi by Eddy Merckx." Additionally
the lug cutouts and engravings are distinctly Merckx's.

The Motorola team also uses titanium frames built by Litespeed here
in the USA. These bikes also feature the above mentioned Caloi
decal set. Litespeed builds the Merckx ti production frames as well.
Likewise, Litespeed builds for other labels. Macalu immediately
comes to mind, and there are likely others.

Caloi does, in fact, exist as a frame production company. Their catalog
I've seen describes tig-welded aluminum mountain bikes. Like
C-dale, there is one basic frame design and various levels of
components. Their production facilty is in South America.

Their catalog does not list any road bikes -- of any material.
Caloi pays for the advertising with Motorola and Merckx, gaining
name and label recognition, but their production seems to be
strictly mountain bikes.

(They probably "brake" as well as any bike, depending on the
cantilevers used!)

Clint Harshaw <har...@sc.edu>

[Thomas H. Kunich]

In article <1772B10800...@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu>,

Clint Harshaw <T71...@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU> wrote:
>
>The Motorola team also uses titanium frames built by Litespeed here
>in the USA. These bikes also feature the above mentioned Caloi
>decal set. Litespeed builds the Merckx ti production frames as well.
>Likewise, Litespeed builds for other labels. Macalu immediately
>comes to mind, and there are likely others.

Let's be straight about this -- If Merckx is paying for it it is
a Merckx frame. Just because Litespeed manufactures the frames
doesn't make it a Litespeed.

Carlton built Raleighs are Raleighs. Bob Jackson built
Hutchins are Hutchins. Most of the bikes in the world are
built in Taiwan, but they aren't Giants. Most have other
brand names on them.

What is the difference between hiring a guy to design your bike,
buying a factory, employing a manufacturing crew AND simply
specifiying the exact same bike to a OEM who will deliver it to
you EXACTLY the same way that your own factory would?

I guess people just aren't schooled in capitalism anymore.

[Mint Sauce]

Cycletron (ide...@teleport.com) wrote:
: In article <4fitni$u...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Matthew Provost
: <mpro...@ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:

: > In article <4fft3j$4...@stella.tip.net> , thomas....@par.se writes:
: > >Caloi is just a brand.
: > >The frames are made by Eddy Mercxx.

: > >They don!t brake easy.....

: >
: > Caloi is a Brazilian bike company. I haven't seen any imported into the
: > US, but they may be exported elsewhere. they are cheaply mass-produced
: > and do break quite often. they are certainly not made by anybody named
: > Eddy Mercxx. (considering that name would be unpronounceable in
: > portuguese). he may make frames using the same name ( i don't know why
: > one would want to be identified with such a bad company though). but if
: > we are talking about broken frames, you have proabably bought a bad
: > Brazilian bike.

: Caloi's road frames are made by Eddy M. The Motorola team used to ride

: Eddy M. frames but now rides Caloi frames... the paint schemes are exactly
: the same as Eddy M's frames.

: One of my local LBS carries Caloi's MTB frames. Haven't seen too many out
: on the road/trails... I guess is people don't know anything about them...
: and none of the MTB stars ride them... thus, no brand name identification.

The answer to the eddy merckx link is a simple one, he only builds the
motorola team bikes, not all calois, they are made somewhere in taiwan
like most frames today, becasue if you look closely the low-pro used by
the motorola team is actually a rebadged Lotus, and not a caloi as it's
badging indicates. Alot of pro teams ride different frames from what
they are badged as.

Ben Appleby
cm2...@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk

[Christian Yates]

Back to the subject of "do caloi's MTB's break." Their Al frames are
built like tanks- quarter inch thick solid dropouts, and thick tubing.
I've got one around the shop that I beat on on a regular basis, and It
hasn't failed yet. But...they weigh a ton. Defintely no match for my Ibis.
hehe

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[Jason Jeffries]

In article <idesign-1102...@ip-eug1-18.teleport.com>
ide...@teleport.com (Cycletron) writes:

> Caloi's road frames are made by Eddy M. The Motorola team used to ride
> Eddy M. frames but now rides Caloi frames... the paint schemes are exactly
> the same as Eddy M's frames.

All of Caloi's road frames are made my EM, or just the Motorola frames?
I seem to recall hearing that even though Caloi is supposed to be
Motorola's supplier, they just stuck Caloi decals on Merckx frames. I'm
not sure that _all_ of Caloi's road frames are Merckx-made, though...

This type of "stick our sponsor's decal on that other manufacturers
bike" kind of stuff seems to be becoming more common these days.
Wassupwitdat? Are we going to start seeing Huffys in the peloton again?

---
I just make the bomb, I don't drop it.

[Christian Yates]

> All of Caloi's road frames are made my EM, or just the Motorola frames?
> I seem to recall hearing that even though Caloi is supposed to be
> Motorola's supplier, they just stuck Caloi decals on Merckx frames. I'm
> not sure that _all_ of Caloi's road frames are Merckx-made, though...
>
> This type of "stick our sponsor's decal on that other manufacturers
> bike" kind of stuff seems to be becoming more common these days.
> Wassupwitdat? Are we going to start seeing Huffys in the peloton again?

Caloi neither makes nor sells any road frames. They sponser the
motorola team for advertizement purposes. Motorola rides Merckx and
litespeed (which manufactures Merckx Ti frames BTW). Caloi only makes
MTB's, a few hybrids, and cruisers. (unless they're hiding something from
me- I'm a Caloi dealer).

[Baird Webel]

JJef...@psu.edu (Jason Jeffries) writes:

>This type of "stick our sponsor's decal on that other manufacturers
>bike" kind of stuff seems to be becoming more common these days.
>Wassupwitdat? Are we going to start seeing Huffys in the peloton again?

I think it isn't really that much more common today that it has always
been. Kelly usually riding a painted Vitus comes to mind, and I think
that Merckx had a favorite framebuilder (colnago?) whose stuff he always
used regardless of what the bike paint said.

baird
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* Baird Webel *
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[trauma...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, February 25, 1996 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Christian Yates wrote:
> > All of Caloi's road frames are made my EM, or just the Motorola frames?
> > I seem to recall hearing that even though Caloi is supposed to be
> > Motorola's supplier, they just stuck Caloi decals on Merckx frames. I'm
> > not sure that _all_ of Caloi's road frames are Merckx-made, though...
> >

> > This type of "stick our sponsor's decal on that other manufacturers
> > bike" kind of stuff seems to be becoming more common these days.
> > Wassupwitdat? Are we going to start seeing Huffys in the peloton again?
>
>

> Caloi neither makes nor sells any road frames. They sponser the
> motorola team for advertizement purposes. Motorola rides Merckx and
> litespeed (which manufactures Merckx Ti frames BTW). Caloi only makes
> MTB's, a few hybrids, and cruisers. (unless they're hiding something from
> me- I'm a Caloi dealer).
>
> ----------------------------------
> | Christian Yates|||||///////////|
> | pya...@clemson.edu||\\\\\\\\\\\|
> ----------------------------------

It is interesting that they don't make road bikes since one is sitting in my garage. It is a Caloi 7000 series Pro Road all aluminum frame. My wife found it in a thrift store. I am about to re-donate it because no one ever rides it. I searched the name on a search engine to find out if it had any value and stumbled upon this discussion.

[bcarli...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, February 8, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, cgburns wrote:
> Have any of you had experience with Caloi frames breaking? Any of them break obecause of
> defective welding? Thanks, CB

Not defective welding. Al stress. I have a 20" Caloi BMX, and a Caloi Pro also Al. I have stress crascks in both fork heads on my bikes. Currently running a GT80 66 cc, 4.5 hp., with ported and polished cylinder. Holding up very well for running @ 40 mph.

[lakeshor...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, February 8, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, cgburns wrote:
> Have any of you had experience with Caloi frames breaking? Any of them break obecause of
> defective welding? Thanks, CB

Hello CB, I am wondering where your research took you? Did you indeed find that Caloi Mountain bicycle frames did have a higher than normal failure rate? I am a bicycle dealer here in Jacksonville, Florida. Most of the mountain bicycle racers found that the Caloi bicycles had a weak point in the top tube and downtube of the head tube. They broke often and sudden. I know the response is twenty one years late. I can put you in touch with several bicycle racers with the unfortunate experience.

[chesap...@gmail.com]

Thing is the bike you describe wasn't made for 5 years after the original post to which you replied.
I have a caloi 2001, 7000 series all aluminum road bike as well, thrift store also and was searching for a price as well. Lol
Rides nice.