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datakoll

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May 25, 2013, 8:37:30 AM5/25/13
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I asked Jute for USA riding experience supporing his continuous efforts on telling us what to do wear say and ride.

My understanding is Jute is a Euro/Irishman.

Jute's response is typically ugly, boorish and way off the subject Jute introduced.

As Jute writes an essay telling us we should eat shit.

We question his experience at eating shit.

Then he blows up because we asked.

Who would come here or support a group...RBT or DAR...with this ongoing habitual disturbing ugliness.

Jute should stay home.

datakoll

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May 26, 2013, 7:37:26 AM5/26/13
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.............


RBT or American internet discussion groups are the vehicle for Jute style attacks. Here, Jute escapes direct consequences for assault and dysfunction.

Jute's illness is not tolerated in Ireland, at work, in a bar or by law in public areas.

That RBT does respond and tolerate Jute defines the end of my support.

Fool

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May 26, 2013, 10:28:53 AM5/26/13
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Jeasus man, give it a rest. Just put the guy in your kill file and
forget him.

Best for you and certainly best for the rest of us.

Rob Lindauer

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May 26, 2013, 10:33:39 AM5/26/13
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Fool wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 04:37:26 -0700 (PDT), datakoll

>> That RBT does respond and tolerate Jute defines the end of my support.
>
> Jeasus man, give it a rest. Just put the guy in your kill file and
> forget him.
>
> Best for you and certainly best for the rest of us.
>

I second that. Your posts have been valuable. I made the mistake of
not building a killfile when I went to a new machine, but that problem
is now rectified. If you let him run you off, he wins, and rbt loses.

--
Rob Lindauer, rli...@attglobal.net (replace "att" with "sbc")

datakoll

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May 26, 2013, 7:22:18 PM5/26/13
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......

a rest...good idea !

Posts submitted fattened RBT content. Would new posters show ? From UTUBE and colorful, and expert off course, other cycle groups.

No they have not.

However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored. Post made from here are a mix of original material and referenced hyperlinks derived from my daily news, online exploration material. Material not mine mostly professional cycle work/journalism less Zinn and Co.

None of it is read by RBT. RBT reads Jute.

I do not.

James

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May 26, 2013, 8:15:36 PM5/26/13
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On 27/05/13 09:22, datakoll wrote:
>
> However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays
> posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored. Post
> made from here are a mix of original material and referenced
> hyperlinks derived from my daily news, online exploration material.
> Material not mine mostly professional cycle work/journalism less Zinn
> and Co.

One of your most lucid posts by far. I actually understood what you
wrote, as opposed to the usual stuff from you that I ignore as
unintelligible nonsense.

> None of it is read by RBT. RBT reads Jute.

Perhaps if you wrote stuff that people actually understood, without them
having to try to interpret the (seemingly) random utterings...

> I do not.

But you do, and have responded.

BTW, how does google view counter know what I have read, when I don't
use google groups?

--
JS

Fool

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May 26, 2013, 8:52:15 PM5/26/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 16:22:18 -0700 (PDT), datakoll
<data...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:33:39 AM UTC-4, Rob Lindauer wrote:
>> Fool wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 26 May 2013 04:37:26 -0700 (PDT), datakoll
>>
>>
>>
>> >> That RBT does respond and tolerate Jute defines the end of my support.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Jeasus man, give it a rest. Just put the guy in your kill file and
>>
>> > forget him.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Best for you and certainly best for the rest of us.
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> I second that. Your posts have been valuable. I made the mistake of
>>
>> not building a killfile when I went to a new machine, but that problem
>>
>> is now rectified. If you let him run you off, he wins, and rbt loses.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rob Lindauer, rli...@attglobal.net (replace "att" with "sbc")
>
>......
>
>a rest...good idea !
>
>Posts submitted fattened RBT content. Would new posters show ? From UTUBE and colorful, and expert off course, other cycle groups.
>
>No they have not.

No. But than again, they would have to learn to read and write if they
leave YouTube...

>
>However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored. Post made from here are a mix of original material and referenced hyperlinks derived from my daily news, online exploration material. Material not mine mostly professional cycle work/journalism less Zinn and Co.
>
A lot of hits on "shit" too. some 280,000,000, but is it a subject
matter that you have an overweening desire to pursue?

Marcus Coles

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May 26, 2013, 8:57:26 PM5/26/13
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Real Usenet people read datakoll postings or not.

rec.bicycles.tech is not really a Google group, Google just includes it
in it's coverage of a subset of Usenet groups. So don't read too much
into the googly scoring.

There are probably a dozen people who's postings I regularly read in
this newsgroup and yours are included.

I click on some posts and not others.

Sometimes I learn, sometimes I chuckle and once in a blue moon I
contribute.

I imagine you have a quite a few fans who would be sorry to see you
depart, especially under such circumstances.


Marcus






Dan O

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May 27, 2013, 12:28:36 AM5/27/13
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Don't go. Or if you do, know that you're thought of, come back now
and then or sometime, and be well.

I may have to take a break myself (at least ease up); it's too weird
being able to express my opinion with relative impunity.

sms

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May 27, 2013, 9:03:52 AM5/27/13
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On 5/26/2013 5:15 PM, James wrote:
> On 27/05/13 09:22, datakoll wrote:
>>
>> However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays
>> posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored. Post
>> made from here are a mix of original material and referenced
>> hyperlinks derived from my daily news, online exploration material.
>> Material not mine mostly professional cycle work/journalism less Zinn
>> and Co.
>
> One of your most lucid posts by far. I actually understood what you
> wrote, as opposed to the usual stuff from you that I ignore as
> unintelligible nonsense.

LOL, I thought that the usual unintelligible nonsense was the caused by
some problem that prevented him from writing lucidly, but apparently the
nonsensical writing is all an act. Perhaps it's intended to be amusing,
though I doubt any finds it cute.

Duane

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May 27, 2013, 9:18:32 AM5/27/13
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There's that. There's also that some people may ignore posts out of
hand with subjects like "news from hebeville."

But at any rate, as someone pointed out, relying on google groups for
statistics for an NNTP group doesn't make much sense. I use eternal
september to read this group, not google.

Rob Lindauer

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May 27, 2013, 9:41:15 AM5/27/13
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sms wrote:

>
> LOL, I thought that the usual unintelligible nonsense was the caused by
> some problem that prevented him from writing lucidly, but apparently the
> nonsensical writing is all an act. Perhaps it's intended to be amusing,
> though I doubt any finds it cute.
>

I always thought the style was something (distantly) akin to Finley
Peter Dunne's "Mr. Dooley"

Andre Jute

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May 27, 2013, 1:07:43 PM5/27/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:15:36 AM UTC+1, James wrote:
> On 27/05/13 09:22, datakoll aka Gene Daniels wrote:
>
> > However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays
>
> > posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored.
>
> BTW, how does google view counter know what I have read, when I don't
>
> use google groups?

Google in effect owns the Usenet. All these posts appear from Google servers, and Google keeps the archive. Your XYZ message server fetches the message from Google and a counter clicks over. So there is every reason to believe a Google count of posts and views is accurate.

Not an ideal situation. The entire Google Board and management are self-confessed thieves. They tried to steal every copyright in the world, and were stopped by a wide-wake judge in the States, who should get the Nobel Prize for Literature for that signal service. Expect sooner or later to see advertising on the Usenet

Andre Jute
His words are the finest vintage wine poured into a crystal goblet, the meaning transparent to all. — Beatrice Webb

Andre Jute

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May 27, 2013, 1:26:25 PM5/27/13
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Here Gene Daniels, aka datakoll, explains why he tried to drive me out of rec.audio.tubes. It was a straight case of jealousy and envy:he thought that, if I were gone, people would read the crap he sends! Read his confession. It is all his own words.

On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:22:18 AM UTC+1, datakoll wrote:
>> That RBT does respond and tolerate Jute defines the end of my support.
>
>> However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored.
>
>>Post made from here [by Gene Daniels aka datakoll] are a mix of original material and referenced hyperlinks derived from my daily news, online exploration material. Material not mine mostly professional cycle work/journalism less Zinn and Co.
>
>>None of it is read by RBT. RBT reads Jute.

There you have it. Daniels confesses his petty reasons for assaulting my freedom of speech. What a piece of sewerage he is. It appears, from the shameless way he puts his "reasons" into the public record, that he doesn't even grasp how despicable his reasons, and he, are.

Andre Jute
Standing tall for the truth

Dan O

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May 27, 2013, 1:59:21 PM5/27/13
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On May 27, 10:07 am, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:15:36 AM UTC+1, James wrote:
> > On 27/05/13 09:22, datakoll aka Gene Daniels wrote:
>
> > > However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays
>
> > > posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored.
>
> > BTW, how does google view counter know what I have read, when I don't
>
> > use google groups?
>
> Google in effect owns the Usenet. All these posts appear from Google servers, and Google keeps the archive. Your XYZ message server fetches the message from Google and a counter clicks over. So there is every reason to believe a Google count of posts and views is accurate.
>

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977

> Not an ideal situation. The entire Google Board and management are self-confessed thieves.

http://www.geek.com/news/eric-schmidt-thought-dont-be-evil-was-the-stupidest-rule-ever-1555049/

> They tried to steal every copyright in the world, and were stopped by a wide-wake judge in the States, who should get the Nobel Prize for Literature for that signal service. Expect sooner or later to see advertising on the Usenet
>

You don't already get "sponsored links" in your browser reading Google
Groups?

http://www.giganews.com/usenet-glossary/Usenet-Spam.html

Andre Jute

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May 27, 2013, 1:59:44 PM5/27/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 2:18:32 PM UTC+1, Duane wrote:
> On 5/27/2013 9:03 AM, sms wrote:
>
> > On 5/26/2013 5:15 PM, James wrote:
>
> >> On 27/05/13 09:22, datakoll wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>> However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays
>
> >>> posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored. Post
>
> >>> made from here are a mix of original material and referenced
>
> >>> hyperlinks derived from my daily news, online exploration material.
>
> >>> Material not mine mostly professional cycle work/journalism less Zinn
>
> >>> and Co.
>
> >>
>
> >> One of your most lucid posts by far. I actually understood what you
>
> >> wrote, as opposed to the usual stuff from you that I ignore as
>
> >> unintelligible nonsense.
>
> >
>
> > LOL, I thought that the usual unintelligible nonsense was the caused by
>
> > some problem that prevented him from writing lucidly, but apparently the
>
> > nonsensical writing is all an act. Perhaps it's intended to be amusing,
>
> > though I doubt any finds it cute.
>
> >
>
> There's that. There's also that some people may ignore posts out of
>
> hand with subjects like "news from hebeville."

Precisely. As I demonstrated from the wretched little man's own mouth at https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rec.bicycles.tech/dWRw27nRXMk , in addition to the nauseating spew of anti-semitism, Gene Daniels constantly uses RBT to engage in gay bashing (to such an extent that any psychologist must wonder whether Daniels wouldn't be happier out of the closet), xenophobia, Ugly-Americanism of the crudest kind (again in this very thread, trying to claim a universal forum like the Usenet as exclusively American -- Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:37:26 PM UTC+1), public threats to the livelihood and reputation of other members for his personal reasons, and assaults on free speech by trying to limit discussion to Daniels'-approved subjects. That's just a selection. Anyone who supports this wretched little man's sickening agenda immediately loses my respect.

And Gene Daniels' reason for all this wretchedness, which surely drives away would-be members? It is simple envy because my posts are read and his aren't, as he confesses in another post! Holy Moses, this is so petty, even I, the intended victim of all this viciousness, am embarrassed for the scummy little man, and for people like Andrew Muzi who were silly enough to offer Daniels public support.

> But at any rate, as someone pointed out, relying on google groups for
>
> statistics for an NNTP group doesn't make much sense. I use eternal
>
> september to read this group, not google.

See my remarks to James about Google's claim to keep an accurate Usenet count.

Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for net scum

Dan O

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May 27, 2013, 2:00:53 PM5/27/13
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On May 27, 10:26 am, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here... datakoll... tried to drive me out of rec.audio.tubes.

Really?

<snip>


Dan O

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May 27, 2013, 2:05:51 PM5/27/13
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I guess if you keep jumping from one paranoid delusion to the next, it
gets hard to keep track.

Andre Jute

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May 27, 2013, 2:15:39 PM5/27/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:59:21 PM UTC+1, Dan O wrote:
> On May 27, 10:07 am, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:15:36 AM UTC+1, James wrote:
>
> > > On 27/05/13 09:22, datakoll aka Gene Daniels wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > > However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays
>
> >
>
> > > > posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored.
>
> >
>
> > > BTW, how does google view counter know what I have read, when I don't
>
> >
>
> > > use google groups?
>
> >
>
> > Google in effect owns the Usenet. All these posts appear from Google servers, and Google keeps the archive. Your XYZ message server fetches the message from Google and a counter clicks over. So there is every reason to believe a Google count of posts and views is accurate.
>
> >
>
>
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977

Come on, Danno, you know I'm not going to slog through all that stuff. Tell us what it says that's relevant to the present discussion.

> > Not an ideal situation. The entire Google Board and management are self-confessed thieves.
>
> http://www.geek.com/news/eric-schmidt-thought-dont-be-evil-was-the-stupidest-rule-ever-1555049/

Why am I not surprised. These guys tried to do an evil thing -- the steal from thousands of little people, poor widows and suchlike, and were stopped in their tracks by a judge, and I haven't heard any apologies. BTW, I was one of the people they tried to steal from. I'm not likely to trust Google ever again. Once thief, always a thief.

> > They tried to steal every copyright in the world, and were stopped by a wide-wake judge in the States, who should get the Nobel Prize for Literature for that signal service. Expect sooner or later to see advertising on the Usenet
>
> You don't already get "sponsored links" in your browser reading Google
> Groups?

No, I don't. i read groups.google inside Safari on a Mac, and Apple, bless Steve Jobs and may his time in Purgatory be short, protects me against the depredations of Google and suchlike.

> http://www.giganews.com/usenet-glossary/Usenet-Spam.html

In the last week or so ads have been appearing in people's Facebook pages, placed there by Facebook. My protege Dakota Franklin is putting nasty comments on the more inappropriate ones (ads for liquor -- her page is about athletes) in the hope that Facebook operates a "whitelist" of members on whose pages it is too dangerous for paying customers to go. I don't think Facebook, the least competent of these serendipitous great corporations, has the nous to program that, but she reckons they'll catch on as soon as they lose a few big advertising accounts.

Over here in Ireland, we now get ads on rented movies... Next they be even on movies you buy.

Andre Jute

Andre Jute

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May 27, 2013, 2:23:57 PM5/27/13
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Andre Jute

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May 27, 2013, 2:25:26 PM5/27/13
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What's paranoid about repeating a criminal's confession? See https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rec.bicycles.tech/dWRw27nRXMk

Dan O

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May 27, 2013, 3:03:05 PM5/27/13
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On May 27, 11:15 am, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:59:21 PM UTC+1, Dan O wrote:
> > On May 27, 10:07 am, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:15:36 AM UTC+1, James wrote:
>
> > > > On 27/05/13 09:22, datakoll aka Gene Daniels wrote:
>
> > > > > However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays
>
> > > > > posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored.
>
> > > > BTW, how does google view counter know what I have read, when I don't
>
> > > > use google groups?
>
> > > Google in effect owns the Usenet. All these posts appear from Google servers, and Google keeps the archive. Your XYZ message server fetches the message from Google and a counter clicks over. So there is every reason to believe a Google count of posts and views is accurate.
>
> >http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977
>
> Come on, Danno, you know I'm not going to slog through all that stuff. Tell us what it says that's relevant to the present discussion.
>

To be frank... er, honest, I didn't slog through it, either; but I
believe it says the paragraph above it is ignorant BS.

> > > Not an ideal situation. The entire Google Board and management are self-confessed thieves.
>
> >http://www.geek.com/news/eric-schmidt-thought-dont-be-evil-was-the-st...
>
> Why am I not surprised. These guys tried to do an evil thing -- the steal from thousands of little people, poor widows and suchlike, and were stopped in their tracks by a judge, and I haven't heard any apologies. BTW, I was one of the people they tried to steal from. I'm not likely to trust Google ever again. Once thief, always a thief.
>

Trust is one of those things in the same category as safety; neither
can - by its very nature - be absolute; but (so far) entities like
Google (and there are few) keep hope alive.

> > > They tried to steal every copyright in the world, and were stopped by a wide-wake judge in the States, who should get the Nobel Prize for Literature for that signal service. Expect sooner or later to see advertising on the Usenet
>
> > You don't already get "sponsored links" in your browser reading Google
> > Groups?
>
> No, I don't. i read groups.google inside Safari on a Mac, and Apple, bless Steve Jobs and may his time in Purgatory be short, protects me against the depredations of Google and suchlike.
>
> >http://www.giganews.com/usenet-glossary/Usenet-Spam.html
>
> In the last week or so ads have been appearing in people's Facebook pages, placed there by Facebook. My protege Dakota Franklin is putting nasty comments on the more inappropriate ones (ads for liquor -- her page is about athletes) in the hope that Facebook operates a "whitelist" of members on whose pages it is too dangerous for paying customers to go. I don't think Facebook, the least competent of these serendipitous great corporations, has the nous to program that, but she reckons they'll catch on as soon as they lose a few big advertising accounts.
>

Facebook is the new, mutated and evolved, AOL, and commercialism is
all over it like flies on a rib roast. What kills me is the way they
apply labels like "Like" to their abstraction, such that endorsement
is required for access.

> Over here in Ireland, we now get ads on rented movies... Next they be even on movies you buy.
>

I hear you.

James

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May 27, 2013, 5:32:58 PM5/27/13
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On 28/05/13 03:07, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:15:36 AM UTC+1, James wrote:
>> On 27/05/13 09:22, datakoll aka Gene Daniels wrote:
>>
>>> However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays
>>
>>> posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored.
>>
>> BTW, how does google view counter know what I have read, when I
>> don't
>>
>> use google groups?
>
> Google in effect owns the Usenet. All these posts appear from Google
> servers, and Google keeps the archive. Your XYZ message server
> fetches the message from Google and a counter clicks over. So there
> is every reason to believe a Google count of posts and views is
> accurate.

I don't see how. If XYZ gets the messages and Google's counters click
over once, how does Google know that the message from XYZ is then
received by 10, 100, 1000 or 10000 others?

--
JS

Andre Jute

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May 28, 2013, 4:05:10 AM5/28/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:03:05 PM UTC+1, Dan O wrote:
> On May 27, 11:15 am, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Google in effect owns the Usenet. All these posts appear from Google servers, and Google keeps the archive. Your XYZ message server fetches the message from Google and a counter clicks over. So there is every reason to believe a Google count of posts and views is accurate.
>
> > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977
>
> > Come on, Danno, you know I'm not going to slog through all that stuff. Tell us what it says that's relevant to the present discussion.
>
> To be frank... er, honest, I didn't slog through it, either; but I
> believe it says the paragraph above it is ignorant BS.

Mmm. I should have done my own research. The reference you quote, dear Danno, is just an aspiration, as the Gene Daniels aka datakoll's dream of taking over RBT for anti-semitism, homophobia, xenophobia etc, much more daily nastiness, is just an aspiration. Here is the reality that what I say is true:

"In February [2001], the Internet search service Google bought from the failed information site Deja.com an archive of more than 650 million messages posted on electronic bulletin boards, known as Usenet newsgroups, that dates to 1995." ( From http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/07/business/new-economy-google-s-revival-usenet-archive-opens-up-wealth-possibilities-but.html )

The record-keeper owns the system. Stalin worked on the same principle in taking over, extending and ruling the Russian Empire until recently called the Soviet Union.

Or pick your own reference from Google: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=who+archived+usenet+before+google%3F&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Andre Jute

Andre Jute

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May 28, 2013, 4:09:02 AM5/28/13
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Mmm. It may be that you're right. It certainly sounds logical. If you're correct though, it may mean that Usenet accesses have always been understated, even in the days of the archiver before Google, Deja.com, who was also assumed to offer an accurate count.

Mind you, I seem to remember someone arguing c1997 (very roughly circa!) that the really accurate count was AOL's because AOL provided the gateway to the most users of Usenet.

Andre Jute

datakoll

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SMS has diode fatigue

datakoll

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......


I'm Jewish stupid.

language use is a tool. I write science and legal nd RRRRRRRRRRRRRohloffffffff

again, and last....You are the source of internet Jute and in there is your US experience.

I asked Jute a substantive question...

look at the results...

GARBAGE !

Andre Jute

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IN RESPONSE TO EXPRESSIONS OF DISTASTED FOR HIS CONSTANT SPEW OF ANTI-SEMITISM, GENE DANIELS AKA DATAKOLL SNARLS:

> I'm Jewish stupid.

I'm not surprised. It is well known that the worst anti-semites are closet Jews, on the same pattern that the worst gay bashers are closet homosexuals. Nor is it any surprise that gay bashing and anti-semitism hides in the same closet.

DANIELS, RESPONDING TO CHARGES THAT HE ABUSES A NOBLE LANGUAGE, NEXT SAYS:

> language use is a tool.

Yes, I know, Daniels. Words are what I do for a living, and for fifty years they have rewarded me richly for my loving attention. However, you don't use language as a tool. You merely mistake mechanical facility with a keyboard for literary skill. It's a common mistake among the uneducated and the willfully crude. Consequently, you abuse a noble language, an unforgivable sin.

THE REST OF IT IS THE USUAL INCOMPREHENSIBLE SPEW FROM DANIELS.

Andre Jute
Bored with this wretched little anti-semite, gay-basher, and pornographer Gene Daniels aka Datakoll

datakoll

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May 28, 2013, 8:15:58 PM5/28/13
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all who contacted me about Jute say Jute is a boorish windbag.

and this is what we read here: BOORISH WINDBAG

RBT was bicycle. Jute transparently attempts transforming RBT to REC.BOORISH WINDBAG.

adios ! boorish windbag

Ralph Barone

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May 28, 2013, 8:52:44 PM5/28/13
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As someone who was there on rec.audio.tubes at the time of the Jute plague,
I can say that his statement is completely false.

datakoll

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May 28, 2013, 11:46:10 PM5/28/13
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........

you accept an unstated copncept: Google operates as a structure receiving storing sending information. That concept is an illusion.

As a very large organization, gropups within google manipulate information for their ends not your concepts ends.

These 'unauthorized' and very public deviations from your concept are reviewed by relevant government justice groups.

Or to put it otherwise, people at Google are screwing around with ourn data for their own ends if not profit.

The error of your concept would be immediately obvious reflecting on the general character of prople in california and the 'software community.

I have unwanted information tagged to my eamil address beyond the ad BS. Why not counters ?

'

James

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So you're saying Google has made it /look/ like no one reads your posts,
and many people read Andre's. What do you think their motives are? Do
you think Andre pays them to tick the views counter x10 for his posts
and not yours? Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. Alert Tom
Sherman. He knows all about them.

Or could it be simply that few people bother reading your posts?

I skip over plenty from certain people.

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JS

Fool

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It is really hard to believe that google is "screwing around with ourn
data for their own ends if not profit". You mean they are making a
profit out of your posts?

Cites please.
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Cheers,

Fool

Andre Jute

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Daniels was on rec. audio.tubes? And I never noticed him! No wonder the wretched little man is irked at being ignored. Well spotted, Ralphie. I trust I noticed you when you were, as you claim, on rec. audio.tubes. What were you, a hanger-on of the Magnequest Scum? Whatever happened to the remnants of that bunch of incompetent wannabe schoolyard bullies?

datakoll

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> JS

what I wrote is true of all organizations. My involvement is criminal investigations from two angles produces negative results....

however, what my point was and should not be lost on the techno crowd is my posts are journal sources compared to ad hoc BS emminateing from Ireland yet these journal source posts go uncounted therefore unread.

I comment on the counting as the subjet is raised by others posters.

Goo, off course, goes both ways. A prob example stumbled on is an online pharmacy ad for sunscreen coming up right off in a pointed search AFTER a logical pursuit thru Goo.

The FDA here issued a rule stating SPF and UVA/UVB will legit adverted with the following statement *****. Bottles arrrayed do not list the contents with **** but use paraphrases. Paraphrases increase in qualitative content toward the **** as the SPF falls. We smell lawyers as justly so.

Goo then posted the Pharm ad at the top. Pharm sez Coppertone does **** but the bottle image to the left screen is normal and the bottle does not ****.

My problem is audio. The audio is screwed with. I am for example offered prostitution thru UTUBE.



I had cable thru the laptop several years ago when stationary. Major League baseball playoffs were intercepted at the semi local,level in a sensitive area, Cape Canaveral interjected with audio provided by organized crime/cable operators. The practice was relayed to the FBI.

Andre Jute

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On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:15:58 AM UTC+1, datakoll wrote:
> all who contacted me about Jute say Jute is a boorish windbag.

Anonymously, no doubt.

> and this is what we read here: BOORISH WINDBAG

Oh, it's typical of the scum one finds on the net to project their own shortcomings onto everyone else. Remember, you boorishly attacked me, Daniels. I didn't seek you out and attack you. I wouldn't even have noticed you if you didn't put yourself in my face. There's nothing to notice worthless people by, unless they become impertinent.

> RBT was bicycle. Jute transparently attempts transforming RBT to REC.BOORISH WINDBAG.

My last two articles before I was diverted to defending myself against the wannabe schoolyard bully Gene Daniels aka datakoll were major statistical analyses:

THE CASE FOR A MANDATORY CYCLE HELMET LAW (IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) by Andre Jute
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rec.bicycles.tech/OJv6ow5WrvI

and

IS CYCLING SAFE? by Andre Jute
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rec.bicycles.tech/osvLXO69mGs

There is nothing of this depth on RBT from Daniels in all his tenure on RBT, but hundreds more articles of the same quality from me here, on other cycling fora, and on my cyclists' DIY site that gets 12,000 hits a month. But the illiterate little redneck Gene Daniels aka datakoll presumes to tell me what I can write about!

> adios ! boorish windbag

Here, in his own words, is Gene Daniels aka datakoll's motive for his constant boorish attempts to drive me out, that nobody wants to read his illiterate spew:

****
On Sun, 26 May 2013 04:37:26 -0700 (PDT), datakoll wrote:
>
> However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored.
>
> None of it [posts from Gene Daniels aka datakoll] is read by RBT. RBT reads Jute.
****

Daniels' dumb vendetta against me is becoming funnier with every one of his whining posts.

Andre Jute
Charisma is the art of infuriating the unwashed and unwanted by merely existing elegantly

Andre Jute

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If I didn't know that Gene Daniels aka datakoll was scrambled in the head long since, I would take this post as evidence that the pressure of hatred in his head is about to come to a yellow point like a boil on his butt, and burst, spraying puss everywhere. This post, by itself, would be enough for many of my poker buddies either to commit him for observation, or, when taken with the anti-semitism and earlier remarks about being "sprayed by Jewish homosexuals", to certify him straight off.

Andre Jute
I wonder what he thinks it means

AMuzi

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On 5/29/2013 6:49 AM, datakoll wrote:
-snip-
> I am for example offered prostitution thru UTUBE.
> -snip-

Was she cute? How much?

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


Duane

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On 5/29/2013 2:02 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/29/2013 6:49 AM, datakoll wrote:
> -snip-
>> I am for example offered prostitution thru UTUBE.
>> -snip-
>
> Was she cute? How much?
>

He didn't say he was offered a prostitute.

datakoll

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May 29, 2013, 7:23:10 PM5/29/13
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....


yeah sure but cheep ? over UTUBE ?

xm/sirius follows the same root. music industry so...in facto XM/SIRIUS appeared in one UTUBE ! pass the shovel....

I am advised Goo knows who reads who from Counter as Goo keeps a list...I feel nauseous....

but recovering from the 1000 GB Micropad news this morn...

we're working on climbing muscles.


Jute continues wallowing off substance into personal attacks.

I doahn read his material very far...has Jute come up with a USA riding history ?

We read yawl into the next ice age up there !

great year for snow peas !

datakoll

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datakoll

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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:00:22 PM UTC-4, datakoll wrote:
> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/

or

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/

I doahn wanna reply to the TM butbutbut sipping a Rehab iutside Wal and remeber itsflippping hit here...

maybe 100 people walked in. ALL OVERWEIGHT some so that walking was borderline.

do we see a grad UTUBE procession ?

there's a new list out for cities not physically up to snuff and whi ar...Portland is 3+

and sadly the MLB playoff shots of the Cardinal's home plate seat are as suggested by MO folk...


a plant.

but NYC's is right on target. go firgure.

datakoll

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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:00:22 PM UTC-4, datakoll wrote:
> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/

a tornado cell appears as a white/purple dot. ckick on dot to watch.

also poss use online radio finding the station ahead.

stations go off air.

http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php

Dan O

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On May 28, 1:05 am, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:03:05 PM UTC+1, Dan O wrote:
> > On May 27, 11:15 am, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Google in effect owns the Usenet. All these posts appear from Google servers, and Google keeps the archive. Your XYZ message server fetches the message from Google and a counter clicks over. So there is every reason to believe a Google count of posts and views is accurate.
>
> > > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977
>
> > > Come on, Danno, you know I'm not going to slog through all that stuff. Tell us what it says that's relevant to the present discussion.
>
> > To be frank... er, honest, I didn't slog through it, either; but I
> > believe it says the paragraph above it is ignorant BS.
>
> Mmm. I should have done my own research. The reference you quote, dear Danno, is just an aspiration, as the Gene Daniels aka datakoll's dream of taking over RBT for anti-semitism, homophobia, xenophobia etc, much more daily nastiness, is just an aspiration.

That's how the internet rolls, baby - RFC's rule.

> Here is the reality that what I say is true:
>
> "In February [2001], the Internet search service Google bought from the failed information site Deja.com an archive of more than 650 million messages posted on electronic bulletin boards, known as Usenet newsgroups, that dates to 1995." ( Fromhttp://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/07/business/new-economy-google-s-reviv...)
>
> The record-keeper owns the system. Stalin worked on the same principle in taking over, extending and ruling the Russian Empire until recently called the Soviet Union.
>
> Or pick your own reference from Google:http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=who+archived+usen...
>

My daughter tells me Google has just dropped Groove Shark, and that
that sucks. They're in a tough spot. Compromises. But I trust them
(all being relative), but all things subject to the winds of change.


Dan O

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May 31, 2013, 2:31:06 AM5/31/13
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Now that's the stuff! My very first favortie web site featured a feed
from the GOES West satellite - updated hourly.

James

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We got big rains coming tonight...

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml

--
JS

John B.

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On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:44:25 +1000, James <james.e...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Not raining in Alice Springs and I hear that traffic is real light
there too.
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John B.

Andre Jute

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Most reliable thing about the BBC these days is the weather forecasting. Fill in your own town at http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ and get a reliable weather report.

Andre Jute

davethedave

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On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:44:25 +1000, James wrote:

>>> a tornado cell appears as a white/purple dot. ckick on dot to watch.
>>>
>>> also poss use online radio finding the station ahead.
>>>
>>> stations go off air.
>>>
>>> http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php
>>
>> Now that's the stuff! My very first favortie web site featured a feed
>> from the GOES West satellite - updated hourly.
>
> We got big rains coming tonight...
>
> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml

Three can play at that game.

http://www.sat24.com/en/tu

Looks fine to me here.
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davethedave

Andre Jute

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Ooh, I like the lightning that you can switch on bottom right of your map -- when it strikes elsewhere, I mean. One of my pedalpals worries about lightning but we rarely see any. In fact, we're more likely to be caught in a stinging hailstorm.

Andre Jute

datakoll

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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:26:25 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
> Here Gene Daniels, aka datakoll, explains why he tried to drive me out of rec.audio.tubes. It was a straight case of jealousy and envy:he thought that, if I were gone, people would read the crap he sends! Read his confession. It is all his own words.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:22:18 AM UTC+1, datakoll wrote:
>
> >> That RBT does respond and tolerate Jute defines the end of my support.
>
> >
>
> >> However, the Google Views Counter, if accurate, clearly displays posts by Jute are popular where my posts are clearly ignored.
>
> >
>
> >>Post made from here [by Gene Daniels aka datakoll] are a mix of original material and referenced hyperlinks derived from my daily news, online exploration material. Material not mine mostly professional cycle work/journalism less Zinn and Co.
>
> >
>
> >>None of it is read by RBT. RBT reads Jute.
>
>
>
> There you have it. Daniels confesses his petty reasons for assaulting my freedom of speech. What a piece of sewerage he is. It appears, from the shameless way he puts his "reasons" into the public record, that he doesn't even grasp how despicable his reasons, and he, are.
>
>
>
> Andre Jute
>
> Standing tall for the truth

Jute you're over the hill fersure. I wrote RBT people respond to your bullshit.

Your brain's shot.

Rec.audiotube ?

813

Andre Jute

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On Friday, May 31, 2013 6:35:04 PM UTC+1, datakoll wrote:

> Jute you're over the hill fersure.

I've been on top of that hill for over 50 years, since I was 13, so sometime I shall be over it. I'm comfortable with that. But enough about your fascination with me. What I find much more interesting, professionally, is this: How do you feel, never having made it up onto even the lowest slopes of the hill?

>I wrote RBT people respond to your bullshit.

I love them too. People, especially women, respond to my appreciation of their wit and wisdom. You either have the pheromones or you don't. You, Gene Daniels, clearly don't. (A stronger mouthwash won't help.) It's just another way in which you're a loser. The list goes on.

> Your brain's shot.

At least I have a brain to be shot. What do you think with, sonny?

Unsigned out of contempt for a congenital loser

thirty-six

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May 31, 2013, 4:28:15 PM5/31/13
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On May 31, 12:52 pm, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Friday, May 31, 2013 11:56:03 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> > On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:44:25 +1000, James <james.e.stew...@gmail.com>
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On 31/05/13 16:31, Dan O wrote:
>
> > >> On May 30, 3:07 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:00:22 PM UTC-4, datakoll wrote:
>
> > >>>>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/
>
> > >>> a tornado cell appears as a white/purple dot. ckick on dot to watch.
>
> > >>> also poss use online radio finding the station ahead.
>
> > >>> stations go off air.
>
> > >>>http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php
>
> > >> Now that's the stuff!  My very first favortie web site featured a feed
>
> > >> from the GOES West satellite - updated hourly.
>
> > >We got big rains coming tonight...
>
> > >http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml
>
> > Not raining in Alice Springs and I hear that traffic is real light
>
> > there too.
>
> > --
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > John B.
>
> Most reliable thing about the BBC these days is the weather forecasting. Fill in your own town athttp://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/and get a reliable weather report.
>
> Andre Jute

I'm better looking out the window, observing the clouds and sniffing
the air. It gives me up to the minute information and feel which
when referenced to experience of 40+ years give me complete accuracy
in prediction up to around 6 hours. For my home location I have been
able to predict the time of the start of rainfall, it's rate of fall,
its probable duration and it's actual duration when within 3 hours of
ending and variation in temperatures for at least 12 hours. I don't
require magic, theatre or props for this, or any waving of hands. I
found it amusing that I was able to walk about at the market in
January in sandals (no socks), cords and a cardigan while onlooked by
"aliens in their space suits", boots and helmets. Maybe they all
trusted the BBC before sticking their finger outside.

thirty-six

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Yep, it's that time of year, use a cycle cape or stop with a
fisherman's umbrella. Despite it's size, I think you may be able to
manage it with a couple of attatchments, one at the left chainstay and
the other, a brace from the saddle.

davethedave

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On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:56:43 -0700, Andre Jute wrote:

> On Friday, May 31, 2013 4:46:07 PM UTC+1, davethedave wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:44:25 +1000, James wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> a tornado cell appears as a white/purple dot. ckick on dot to
>> >>> watch.
>>
>>
>> >>>
>> >>> also poss use online radio finding the station ahead.
>>
>>
>> >>>
>> >>> stations go off air.
>>
>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >> Now that's the stuff! My very first favortie web site featured a
>> >> feed
>>
>> >> from the GOES West satellite - updated hourly.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > We got big rains coming tonight...
>>
>>
>> >
>> > http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml
>>
>>
>>
>> Three can play at that game.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.sat24.com/en/tu
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks fine to me here.

> Ooh, I like the lightning that you can switch on bottom right of your
> map -- when it strikes elsewhere, I mean. One of my pedalpals worries
> about lightning but we rarely see any. In fact, we're more likely to be
> caught in a stinging hailstorm.

We do get epic lightning but the lightning is pretty much done for this
year. If I see a cloud in the next 3 months I'll get all excited and jump
up and down and stuff.

You are more likely to be hit by a drunk driver than lightning in your
neck of the woods. Even that's pretty unlikely.

http://www.sat24.com/en/gb

--
davethedave

Dan O

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On May 31, 1:28 pm, thirty-six <thirty-...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> On May 31, 12:52 pm, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Friday, May 31, 2013 11:56:03 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> > > On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:44:25 +1000, James <james.e.stew...@gmail.com>
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >On 31/05/13 16:31, Dan O wrote:
>
> > > >> On May 30, 3:07 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:00:22 PM UTC-4, datakoll wrote:
>
> > > >>>>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/
>
> > > >>> a tornado cell appears as a white/purple dot. ckick on dot to watch.
>
> > > >>> also poss use online radio finding the station ahead.
>
> > > >>> stations go off air.
>
> > > >>>http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php
>
> > > >> Now that's the stuff!  My very first favortie web site featured a feed
>
> > > >> from the GOES West satellite - updated hourly.
>
> > > >We got big rains coming tonight...
>
> > > >http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml
>
> > > Not raining in Alice Springs and I hear that traffic is real light
>
> > > there too.
>

>
> > Most reliable thing about the BBC these days is the weather forecasting. Fill in your own town athttp://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/andget a reliable weather report.
>

>
> I'm better looking out the window, observing the clouds and sniffing
> the air.   It gives me up to the minute information and feel which
> when referenced to experience of 40+ years give me complete accuracy
> in prediction up to around 6 hours.   For my home location I have been
> able to predict the time of the start of rainfall, it's rate of fall,
> its probable duration and it's actual duration when within 3 hours of
> ending and variation in temperatures for at least 12 hours.   I don't
> require magic, theatre or props for this, or any waving of hands.   I
> found it amusing that I was able to walk about at the market in
> January in sandals (no socks), cords and a cardigan while onlooked by
> "aliens in their space suits", boots and helmets.    Maybe they all
> trusted the BBC before sticking their finger outside.

Yeah, but an added view from 20,000 miles above doesn't hurt, and
looks pretty cool.

When I first got internet and found that GOES imagery, I liked it so
much I made it my web browser's start page. There was no effort
whatsoever involved in occasional viewing; I was using the web browser
for various things anyway, and every time I started it up, there it
was in front of me.

After a while of this I began to notice that when I did step out on
the porch and look to the west, I was never surprised.

datakoll

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no content

Andre Jute

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On Friday, May 31, 2013 10:57:22 PM UTC+1, datakoll wrote:
> no content

Yes, Daniels, we know your posts have no content. That's why RBTers call them "incomprehensible", "worthless", and so on. You don't have to keep telling us your posts have no content.

James

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May 31, 2013, 7:52:40 PM5/31/13
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It's a big country.

It rained all night here, and is still raining now.

--
JS

datakoll

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May 31, 2013, 8:43:52 PM5/31/13
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doahn move...the Zombies will be in a week.

John B.

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According to the Wiki an average 51 people a year die due to
lightening strikes.... and 677 died in bicycle accidents during 2011
according to bicycleinfo.org :-)

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Cheers,

John B.

datakoll

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May 31, 2013, 11:15:03 PM5/31/13
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=
> According to the Wiki an average 51 people a year die due to
>
> lightening strikes.... and 677 died in bicycle accidents during 2011
>
> according to bicycleinfo.org :-)


http://www.streetsblog.org/

datakoll

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OK measures dew !

http://www.mesonet.org/index.php/weather/map/current_conditions

prob AUS has a spider snake scale ?
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