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Joy Beeson
Nov 18, 2012, 7:47:25 PM11/18/12
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I dithered around about replacing my saddle until the Avocet Touring
WII was discontinued, and soon the old saddle will be worn so badly
that a saddle that doesn't quite fit would be more comfortable.
Which currently-available saddle is the least-bad substitute for an
Avocet Touring WII?
--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
AMuzi
Nov 18, 2012, 8:49:03 PM11/18/12
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On 11/18/2012 6:47 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
>
> I dithered around about replacing my saddle until the Avocet Touring
> WII was discontinued, and soon the old saddle will be worn so badly
> that a saddle that doesn't quite fit would be more comfortable.
>
> Which currently-available saddle is the least-bad substitute for an
> Avocet Touring WII?
>
That was made by Selle Italia. Maybe look for their Turbo
>
> I dithered around about replacing my saddle until the Avocet Touring
> WII was discontinued, and soon the old saddle will be worn so badly
> that a saddle that doesn't quite fit would be more comfortable.
>
> Which currently-available saddle is the least-bad substitute for an
> Avocet Touring WII?
>
Lady, very similar product (also discontinued).
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
datakoll
Nov 18, 2012, 11:25:32 PM11/18/12
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they are out there
https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=gw&q=Search%20for%20topics#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=bicycle+saddles+for+women+reviews&oq=bicycle+saddles+for+women&gs_l=hp.1.1.0l2j0i5l2.0.0.1.4649.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.les%3B..0.0...1c._yRuH-PjuAw&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=eb4786e440d7e586&bpcl=38625945&biw=960&bih=512
My butt likes Specialized, search there. Hard butt compliiant.
Shoe Goo on an isopropyl cleaned dry surface repairs saddles with a thick pliable ong lasting coating. With cool temps and cooled Shoe Goo, the appl;ication is self leveling with a cut ploy jug speader as with fiberglas work.
Buy from Home Depot. Shoe Goo has several types use the outdoor type.
The auto type is hardest.
Shoe Goo cures with a deep toxic fume release.
Try placing a grocery store plastic carry bag over the seat after gooing or ot herwise. A bagged saddle reduces friction for butt and saddle giving more touring mileage before butt death
https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=gw&q=Search%20for%20topics#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=bicycle+saddles+for+women+reviews&oq=bicycle+saddles+for+women&gs_l=hp.1.1.0l2j0i5l2.0.0.1.4649.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.les%3B..0.0...1c._yRuH-PjuAw&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=eb4786e440d7e586&bpcl=38625945&biw=960&bih=512
My butt likes Specialized, search there. Hard butt compliiant.
Shoe Goo on an isopropyl cleaned dry surface repairs saddles with a thick pliable ong lasting coating. With cool temps and cooled Shoe Goo, the appl;ication is self leveling with a cut ploy jug speader as with fiberglas work.
Buy from Home Depot. Shoe Goo has several types use the outdoor type.
The auto type is hardest.
Shoe Goo cures with a deep toxic fume release.
Try placing a grocery store plastic carry bag over the seat after gooing or ot herwise. A bagged saddle reduces friction for butt and saddle giving more touring mileage before butt death
datakoll
Nov 18, 2012, 11:27:47 PM11/18/12
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datakoll
Nov 18, 2012, 11:35:44 PM11/18/12
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John B.
Nov 19, 2012, 6:06:20 AM11/19/12
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:47:25 -0500, Joy Beeson
<jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>I dithered around about replacing my saddle until the Avocet Touring
>WII was discontinued, and soon the old saddle will be worn so badly
>that a saddle that doesn't quite fit would be more comfortable.
>
>Which currently-available saddle is the least-bad substitute for an
>Avocet Touring WII?
Apparently still available on eBay
<jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>I dithered around about replacing my saddle until the Avocet Touring
>WII was discontinued, and soon the old saddle will be worn so badly
>that a saddle that doesn't quite fit would be more comfortable.
>
>Which currently-available saddle is the least-bad substitute for an
>Avocet Touring WII?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Avocet-Touring-WII-Leather-/281014459847
--
Cheers,
John B.
Hank
Nov 20, 2012, 7:50:52 PM11/20/12
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These NOS ones even look reasonably priced:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avocet-O2-Air-40-Saddle-Cro-Mo-Rails-Black-/290783240745?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&var=590082530239&hash=item43b4082229
datakoll
Nov 20, 2012, 11:04:06 PM11/20/12
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the Beeson saddle shape suggests 'hillclimbing' but is a hillclimbing shape more comfy for a large female butt ? Our gluteals differ tween M/F, in fiber structure or fat layers or butt ?
I have not seen a woman climbing a hill.
I have not seen a woman climbing a hill.
datakoll
Nov 20, 2012, 11:50:08 PM11/20/12
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On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:04:06 PM UTC-5, datakoll wrote:
> the Beeson saddle shape suggests 'hillclimbing' but is a hillclimbing shape more comfy for a large female butt ? Our gluteals differ tween M/F, in fiber structure or fat layers or butt ?
>
>
>
> I have not seen a woman climbing a hill.
oooooooooo
> the Beeson saddle shape suggests 'hillclimbing' but is a hillclimbing shape more comfy for a large female butt ? Our gluteals differ tween M/F, in fiber structure or fat layers or butt ?
>
>
>
> I have not seen a woman climbing a hill.
an explanetory video ?
datakoll
Nov 21, 2012, 7:17:30 AM11/21/12
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there's a lot of it....first time I searched here several years ago...7 ?
nada info but now here you go
https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=gw&q=Search%20for%20topics#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&gs_mss=female%20bicycle%20pe&tok=I5Z7fxJxo_emtg978E7B3A&pq=Search%20for%20topics&cp=34&gs_id=4n&xhr=t&q=female+bicycle+pedaling+physiology&pf=p&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&oq=female+bicycle+pedaling+physiology&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=89d95bd2123df4e0&bpcl=38897761&biw=1152&bih=614
video would make a good screen saver
landotter
Nov 21, 2012, 10:02:43 AM11/21/12
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Mark J.
Nov 22, 2012, 2:22:03 PM11/22/12
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On 11/18/2012 4:47 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
>
> I dithered around about replacing my saddle until the Avocet Touring
> WII was discontinued, and soon the old saddle will be worn so badly
> that a saddle that doesn't quite fit would be more comfortable.
>
> Which currently-available saddle is the least-bad substitute for an
> Avocet Touring WII?
>
My wife used to love her Avocet Touring WII as well. Then, in later
>
> I dithered around about replacing my saddle until the Avocet Touring
> WII was discontinued, and soon the old saddle will be worn so badly
> that a saddle that doesn't quite fit would be more comfortable.
>
> Which currently-available saddle is the least-bad substitute for an
> Avocet Touring WII?
>
years, not so much. She now loves her Selle Italia "Diva" saddle, and
says it's the most comfortable saddle she's ever ridden.
As always, saddle preference is very personal, but perhaps the above
suggests some sort of relationship between the shapes of the old Avocet
and the Diva.
Mark J.
Joy Beeson
Dec 20, 2012, 1:29:57 AM12/20/12
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Thanks for all the suggestions.
I spent a lot of time on the Web, with increasing frustration. Seems
as though everybody can afford to have an artist photograph the
merchandise, so everything looked like a man's racing saddle.
* * *
On my way to the grocery store this morning, I absent-mindedly turned
onto the Greenway, forgetting that there's a stretch of
one-way-the-wrong-way street before it passes the teller machine, and
getting around the obstruction took me past the mountain-bike shop, so
I went in and bought the only women's saddle they had. It's a squishy
saddle, but these days I consider a lap around one of Warsaw's three
lakes a long ride. It's enough thicker that I thought that I might
have to adjust the seat post, but being squishy seems to compensate.
I compared it to the Avocet before buying: it's about the same length
and width and shape. DH, who installed it during my after-lunch nap,
says that it's much easier to get at the bolt that holds it on, so
installing it was easier than getting the Avocet off. When I got up,
I rode it around the block, he lowered the nose half a degree, I rode
another lap, and it seems to be working.
Unlike the plastics that were available the last time I bought a
saddle, it's neither so slick that I fall off nor so grabby that I
have to stand up on the pedals to shift my weight.
I see that we haven't thrown out the card it came on: it says only
"XLC", "All-terrain saddle", and "woman". According to the XLC
website, they don't make any such thing.
--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
datakoll
Dec 20, 2012, 8:01:16 AM12/20/12
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an irrational purchase ? squishy ? examine your surfaces for red spots.....
Dan O
Dec 20, 2012, 11:46:48 AM12/20/12
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On Dec 19, 10:29 pm, Joy Beeson <jbee...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> Thanks for all the suggestions.
>
> I spent a lot of time on the Web, with increasing frustration. Seems
> as though everybody can afford to have an artist photograph the
> merchandise, so everything looked like a man's racing saddle.
>
The internet for all its burgeoning promise is sorely (ha-ha) limited
> Thanks for all the suggestions.
>
> I spent a lot of time on the Web, with increasing frustration. Seems
> as though everybody can afford to have an artist photograph the
> merchandise, so everything looked like a man's racing saddle.
>
when it comes to evaluating bicycle seats. But (ha-ha), if you know
exactly what you're looking for, it casts a (world)wiiiiiiiide net.
> * * *
>
> On my way to the grocery store this morning, I absent-mindedly turned
> onto the Greenway, forgetting that there's a stretch of
> one-way-the-wrong-way street before it passes the teller machine, and
> getting around the obstruction took me past the mountain-bike shop, so
> I went in and bought the only women's saddle they had. It's a squishy
> saddle, but these days I consider a lap around one of Warsaw's three
> lakes a long ride. It's enough thicker that I thought that I might
> have to adjust the seat post, but being squishy seems to compensate.
>
> I compared it to the Avocet before buying: it's about the same length
> and width and shape. DH, who installed it during my after-lunch nap,
> says that it's much easier to get at the bolt that holds it on, so
> installing it was easier than getting the Avocet off. When I got up,
> I rode it around the block, he lowered the nose half a degree, I rode
> another lap, and it seems to be working.
>
> Unlike the plastics that were available the last time I bought a
> saddle, it's neither so slick that I fall off nor so grabby that I
> have to stand up on the pedals to shift my weight.
>
> I see that we haven't thrown out the card it came on: it says only
> "XLC", "All-terrain saddle", and "woman". According to the XLC
> website, they don't make any such thing.
>
expensive experiment.
I'm now riding on a WTB Pure V Pro, which works very well for me and
didn't cost an arm and a leg (just most of an "arm"). Also, I seem
blessed with a ~high tolerance and adaptability in this dept so far.
Some saddles are not great, others are pretty good, and the last
couple I've used seem very good (for me).
datakoll
Dec 20, 2012, 12:00:59 PM12/20/12
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new saddle.....examine buttocks for red spots
after breakin it in, see how far you go before yawl cvannuh go further or dead butt sets in. Maybe
30% of the ol saddle ? who knows ?
after breakin it in, see how far you go before yawl cvannuh go further or dead butt sets in. Maybe
30% of the ol saddle ? who knows ?
AMuzi
Dec 20, 2012, 1:43:41 PM12/20/12
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their operations and products rapidly. Probably made by Velo.
frkr...@gmail.com
Dec 20, 2012, 2:44:20 PM12/20/12
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On Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:46:48 AM UTC-5, Dan O wrote:
>
> At least it came from an LBS, and doesn't sound like a terribly
>
> expensive experiment.
Finding the right saddle can certainly be a pain, and IME it's worse for a novice with a still-delicate butt. Sadly, most novices probably know relatively few cyclists, and so can't even briefly try out others' saddles to speed up the learning curve - or comfort curve, or whatever.
>
> At least it came from an LBS, and doesn't sound like a terribly
>
> expensive experiment.
I know I've got about six old saddles in my junk box. I wonder if most cyclists do? If so, seems a saddle swap might be an useful event at a bike club meeting.
- Frank Krygowski
Dan O
Dec 20, 2012, 3:43:53 PM12/20/12
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bike had a tattered (understatement) and duct taped "thing" mounted on
top of his seatpost. Still got a few in the garage - including the
original Avocet from my '87 Stumpjumper Comp.
landotter
Dec 21, 2012, 10:32:08 AM12/21/12
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Dan O
Dec 22, 2012, 1:06:55 AM12/22/12
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investment for something I was spending so much time in intimate
contact with.)
My Surly take-off SST is on one of my kids' MTB now. The old Trek
Elance take-off Lambda Suede thing is on my Stumpjumper.
Joy Beeson
Jan 3, 2013, 12:32:29 AM1/3/13
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:29:57 -0500, Joy Beeson
<jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> . . . so
army-surplus bunk beds that came with thin felt pads instead of
mattresses.
I slept in the upper bunk, and was in the habit of running across the
room, planting a foot on my sister's bunk, and vaulting into my bed.
About the time I got good at it, Mom bought real mattresses for the
bunks. That night I planted a foot on my sister's bed, jumped, and
bounced off the side of the mattress.
I was reminded of that today, when I took my first real ride with the
new slightly-thicker saddle and had to grab my ankle with my hand to
get my foot over.
I've been muttering that it's about time to get a mixte for at least
ten years, but I still don't think it's quite time yet. Particularly
since mixtes are no longer around --they've been gone so long that
people are starting to use the term for drop frames-- and I'd have to
get a mountain bike or a comfort bike.
When I had the saddle almost adjusted, I got fed up with trying to
tighten the clamp on my front shifter cable and decided that the bike
was overdue for a set of new cables and an overhaul.
While riding the bike to the Trailhouse, I found that the nose of the
saddle definitely had to come up another half degree. While riding it
home yesterday -- nope it didn't.
On the way to the grocery store today, I discovered yes, it *does*
need to come up a bit more.
On the way back, I remembered that the overhaul had happened because I
never use my big ring these days, and I'd better shift up and back
again once every ride to keep the cable loose in the housing. Snap!
and the cable is loose again. Detoured past Trailhouse: surprise,
they are open today. (Turned out that the winter hours are Wednesday
through Saturday, not Thursday through Saturday as predicted.)
After putting the groceries away, I rode back. He confidently
selected a wrench and a cable-grabber -- fiddled a while, discovered
that the bolt was broken. Aha! All is explained, and I see why
"the boys" missed it.
Seemed like a very long time to get the broken bolt out, but then I
was dressed for 8F, and it wasn't until I had trouble holding the end
of the cable out of the way that I thought of taking off my gloves and
mittens. My wool jersey, alas, is a pullover. Then a prolonged
search for a short bolt; he ended up using a file on a long one. Even
though the defective part was mine, he waived a fee for all that labor
-- getting a broken bolt out isn't *easy*.
I shifted several times before leaving the parking lot!
But I still have to retrieve the socket set and make that final tweak
on the saddle. I'm going to hate spending fifteen minutes suiting up
just to ride around the block.
<jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> . . . so
> I went in and bought the only women's saddle they had.
When I was in grade school, my younger sister and I slept on
army-surplus bunk beds that came with thin felt pads instead of
mattresses.
I slept in the upper bunk, and was in the habit of running across the
room, planting a foot on my sister's bunk, and vaulting into my bed.
About the time I got good at it, Mom bought real mattresses for the
bunks. That night I planted a foot on my sister's bed, jumped, and
bounced off the side of the mattress.
I was reminded of that today, when I took my first real ride with the
new slightly-thicker saddle and had to grab my ankle with my hand to
get my foot over.
I've been muttering that it's about time to get a mixte for at least
ten years, but I still don't think it's quite time yet. Particularly
since mixtes are no longer around --they've been gone so long that
people are starting to use the term for drop frames-- and I'd have to
get a mountain bike or a comfort bike.
When I had the saddle almost adjusted, I got fed up with trying to
tighten the clamp on my front shifter cable and decided that the bike
was overdue for a set of new cables and an overhaul.
While riding the bike to the Trailhouse, I found that the nose of the
saddle definitely had to come up another half degree. While riding it
home yesterday -- nope it didn't.
On the way to the grocery store today, I discovered yes, it *does*
need to come up a bit more.
On the way back, I remembered that the overhaul had happened because I
never use my big ring these days, and I'd better shift up and back
again once every ride to keep the cable loose in the housing. Snap!
and the cable is loose again. Detoured past Trailhouse: surprise,
they are open today. (Turned out that the winter hours are Wednesday
through Saturday, not Thursday through Saturday as predicted.)
After putting the groceries away, I rode back. He confidently
selected a wrench and a cable-grabber -- fiddled a while, discovered
that the bolt was broken. Aha! All is explained, and I see why
"the boys" missed it.
Seemed like a very long time to get the broken bolt out, but then I
was dressed for 8F, and it wasn't until I had trouble holding the end
of the cable out of the way that I thought of taking off my gloves and
mittens. My wool jersey, alas, is a pullover. Then a prolonged
search for a short bolt; he ended up using a file on a long one. Even
though the defective part was mine, he waived a fee for all that labor
-- getting a broken bolt out isn't *easy*.
I shifted several times before leaving the parking lot!
But I still have to retrieve the socket set and make that final tweak
on the saddle. I'm going to hate spending fifteen minutes suiting up
just to ride around the block.
datakoll
Jan 3, 2013, 9:23:47 AM1/3/13
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doahn rip your pudendum with lrge angle changes.
do we get a butt photo ?
do we get a butt photo ?
AMuzi
Jan 3, 2013, 1:31:50 PM1/3/13
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Joy Beeson
Jan 3, 2013, 9:49:58 PM1/3/13
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:31:50 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> in re Mixte frames:
>
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/somagirl.jpg
>
> current model
Cool!
> in re Mixte frames:
>
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/somagirl.jpg
>
> current model
Peter Gordon
Jan 4, 2013, 4:19:08 AM1/4/13
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AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote in news:kc4iql$rpj$2...@dont-email.me:
Which? the frame or the girls?
Which? the frame or the girls?
datakoll
Jan 4, 2013, 7:35:42 AM1/4/13
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moooooo !
AMuzi
Jan 4, 2013, 11:47:49 AM1/4/13
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In response to "Hey, hold this and smile" we get an endless
stream of models.
datakoll
Jan 4, 2013, 7:05:16 PM1/4/13
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liberal community....many walking by the YJ are enjoying an altered state of consciousness. do that here in Gomorrah n you'll get 5-10 for exposure.
rjav...@gmail.com
Mar 14, 2013, 7:04:09 PM3/14/13
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On Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:47:36 PM UTC-5, Joy Beeson wrote:
> I dithered around about replacing my saddle until the Avocet Touring
>
> WII was discontinued, and soon the old saddle will be worn so badly
>
> that a saddle that doesn't quite fit would be more comfortable.
>
>
>
> Which currently-available saddle is the least-bad substitute for an
>
> Avocet Touring WII?
>
>
>
> I dithered around about replacing my saddle until the Avocet Touring
>
> WII was discontinued, and soon the old saddle will be worn so badly
>
> that a saddle that doesn't quite fit would be more comfortable.
>
>
>
> Which currently-available saddle is the least-bad substitute for an
>
> Avocet Touring WII?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Joy Beeson
>
> joy beeson at comcast dot net
Hey, was looking for info on an Avocet Touring WII I spotted on ebay while looking for a men's Touring II for myself, and I found your post. The listing is here if you're still interested:
>
> Joy Beeson
>
> joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Avocet-Touring-II-Saddle-Seat-Road-Tour-Bike-Leather-USA-80s-/230940018194?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c5190612
I messaged the seller about their error, so the url may change.
Regards,
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