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how to replace tire studs (Schwalbe Marathon Winter)?
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Ned Mantei
Jan 29, 2012, 10:35:24 AM1/29/12
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After two months the Schwalbe Marathon Winter studded tires on my
everyday bike have lost 11 spikes/studs (8 in the front, 3 in back). I
bought some replacement studs, but have had no luck fitting them back
into the holes in the tires. Schwalbe says to just use a pliers to to
this, and Nokian sells a special tool for their tires. A pliers or
visegrip didn't work at all for me, nor did something that I made from a
piece of metal tube that seemed as though it should work like the Nokian
tool. Is there some trick to this? Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
Incidentally, I followed Schwalbe's advice to put in an initial 50 km on
pavement, and have avoided abrupt braking. In fact, this winter there
hasn't yet been an icy day here, so everything has been on pavement or
on hard-packed forest roads. On the front tire there is one place where
three spikes in a row are missing, and I don't like the thought of
stopping on ice (whenever winter finally sets in) and having the wheel
finally lock exactly at that place. The Nokian "Mount and Ground"
studded tires I have on another bike haven't lost any spikes at all.
Ned
everyday bike have lost 11 spikes/studs (8 in the front, 3 in back). I
bought some replacement studs, but have had no luck fitting them back
into the holes in the tires. Schwalbe says to just use a pliers to to
this, and Nokian sells a special tool for their tires. A pliers or
visegrip didn't work at all for me, nor did something that I made from a
piece of metal tube that seemed as though it should work like the Nokian
tool. Is there some trick to this? Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
Incidentally, I followed Schwalbe's advice to put in an initial 50 km on
pavement, and have avoided abrupt braking. In fact, this winter there
hasn't yet been an icy day here, so everything has been on pavement or
on hard-packed forest roads. On the front tire there is one place where
three spikes in a row are missing, and I don't like the thought of
stopping on ice (whenever winter finally sets in) and having the wheel
finally lock exactly at that place. The Nokian "Mount and Ground"
studded tires I have on another bike haven't lost any spikes at all.
Ned
Ned Mantei
Jan 30, 2012, 3:14:48 PM1/30/12
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In article <mantei-80D4D0....@news1.open-news-network.org>,
To answer my own question in case someone else might have this problem:
The trick was to smear some thick soap solution on/in the hole in the
tire before inserting the spike.I used a something made for easy
mounting of tires on recalcitrant rims, but I am sure that any thick
soap solution would work.I also used a vise grip and a bit of metal tube
that fit around the spike, leaving the base free (sort of like grabbing
a thumbtack by the pointy end). With this it was easy to start at one
side of the base and twist it in. And all just in time: It's snowing now
and it should be below freezing for the rest of the week.
Ned
The trick was to smear some thick soap solution on/in the hole in the
tire before inserting the spike.I used a something made for easy
mounting of tires on recalcitrant rims, but I am sure that any thick
soap solution would work.I also used a vise grip and a bit of metal tube
that fit around the spike, leaving the base free (sort of like grabbing
a thumbtack by the pointy end). With this it was easy to start at one
side of the base and twist it in. And all just in time: It's snowing now
and it should be below freezing for the rest of the week.
Ned
kolldata
Jan 30, 2012, 9:42:38 PM1/30/12
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hmmmm i'd swear epoxy would be the answer but ?
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kolldata
Jan 31, 2012, 9:28:22 AM1/31/12
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On Jan 30, 7:42 pm, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hmmmm i'd swear epoxy would be the answer but ?
>
> https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&hl=en&tab=gw#hl=en&output=search&s...
> hmmmm i'd swear epoxy would be the answer but ?
>
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if you tried removing impacted steel from rubber as coming from the
factory….its very difficult
unless the part falls off on the Sahara
Wal sells rubber-steel epoxy. Surface prep is essential like gouging
clean of dirt/oxides then flushing with CHOH
d...@angelhill.net
Jan 2, 2013, 4:13:40 PM1/2/13
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Thanks for the tip!
I used a lubricating hand sanitizer, it works like soap but dries up once the alcohol evaporates. Worked like a charm on my Schwalbe tyres using the tool that is provided with replacement studs.
I think if you dont have a tool, a screwdriver with interchangeable bits might work... Otherwise you can buy a set of replacement studs from Schwalbe that includes a tool for the job, I'm sure a similar package can be bought from other manufacturers.
//D
On Monday, January 30, 2012 9:14:48 PM UTC+1, Ned Mantei wrote:
> In article <>,
I used a lubricating hand sanitizer, it works like soap but dries up once the alcohol evaporates. Worked like a charm on my Schwalbe tyres using the tool that is provided with replacement studs.
I think if you dont have a tool, a screwdriver with interchangeable bits might work... Otherwise you can buy a set of replacement studs from Schwalbe that includes a tool for the job, I'm sure a similar package can be bought from other manufacturers.
//D
On Monday, January 30, 2012 9:14:48 PM UTC+1, Ned Mantei wrote:
> In article <>,
coh...@ct.metrocast.net
Dec 24, 2013, 11:07:33 AM12/24/13
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Dec 24, 2013, 12:29:53 PM12/24/13
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> You folks are cracking me up. I used the tool and studs provided by Schwalbe and the worlds oldest lubricant - saliva. Worked great!
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somebody
Dec 25, 2013, 6:08:06 AM12/25/13
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commuting with no lost studs. Set #2 has a couple hundred miles on it
and no lost studs.
So far almost all riding has been on pavement.
David Scheidt
Dec 25, 2013, 11:36:44 AM12/25/13
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somebody <som...@somewhere.com> wrote:
I rode a couple winters ago using a pair of marathon winters, in
700X35. They shed a whole bunch of studs. One of them lost 15 or so,
the other a few less. there was a bunch of grmbling that year about
that particular tire in that particular size. I'e bought
replacements, but haven't isntalled any. I haven't mounted the tires
since. The last two years have been on Nokkian W-lots-of-studs in
700X40ish. They have gone lots more miles without losing a stud.
--
sig 29
700X35. They shed a whole bunch of studs. One of them lost 15 or so,
the other a few less. there was a bunch of grmbling that year about
that particular tire in that particular size. I'e bought
replacements, but haven't isntalled any. I haven't mounted the tires
since. The last two years have been on Nokkian W-lots-of-studs in
700X40ish. They have gone lots more miles without losing a stud.
--
sig 29
somebody
Dec 25, 2013, 5:45:48 PM12/25/13
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Ned Mantei
Dec 26, 2013, 6:16:55 AM12/26/13
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years ago, in January of 2012. Also overlooked is that a short time
after that post I answered my own question. To repeat that answer:
"The trick was to smear some thick soap solution on/in the hole in the
mounting of tires on recalcitrant rims, but I am sure that any thick
soap solution would work.I also used a vise grip and a bit of metal tube
that fit around the spike, leaving the base free (sort of like
grabbing a thumbtack by the pointy end). With this it was easy to start
at one side of the base and twist it in."
So no need for the Schwalbe tool if it isn't readily available.
soap solution would work.I also used a vise grip and a bit of metal tube
that fit around the spike, leaving the base free (sort of like
grabbing a thumbtack by the pointy end). With this it was easy to start
at one side of the base and twist it in."
And in response to further new comments from others on Schwalbe studded
tires: I have later not had trouble with missing spikes. My guess is
that the problem comes when braking on steep hills (and there are a lot
of those here in Switzerland). Hard braking might rip out spikes. In any
event, I now have the studded tires on an old bike, bought used very
cheap, just for the times when the roads are icy or slushy. And I now
take care to brake gently, at least when coming to a "routine" stop.
Ned
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