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TheTibetanMonkey

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Dec 30, 2009, 12:52:22 PM12/30/09
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No, don't call Homeland Security yet. I just want argue my point. My
riding puts me in a conflicting position with the system that wants me
to drive an SUV to be a true patriot. Then it's issue of riding being
a sort of death wish, in which you may decide that life is not worth
living without true freedom to ride a bike. And yet nobody cares!

So you may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one...


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"You may tease the lion, but not threaten him or the sheep in any way.
They threaten you!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hwPl7e7OWU

TheTibetanMonkey

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:47:17 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 10:36 am, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 30, 1:26 pm, TheTibetanMonkey

> > But I'm hoping that I can reach the sheep and tell them how I feel
> > about their idiotic, consumeristic driving.
>
> That just gets you run over. Much easier to wait
> until gasoline hits $5.00 / gallon.-

What god do I have to pray to for that to happen?

TheTibetanMonkey

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:18:01 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 10:52 am, e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i dont really want anything, but thanks for asking ;^-) ... like i
> mentioned before, i just make the occasional post in your threads so
> you wont feel too lonely. did you ever notice that a fairly large
> percentage of your posts dont elicit a response? im just being
> compassionate! ;^-)

So you want me to sign as "TheLonelyMonkey"? No need, I get attention
elsewhere.

The point is... we monkeys are not happy with conditions in the
jungle. If I don't make noise, people would say we are happy monkeys.
Are you?

The Medway Handyman

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:23:40 PM12/30/09
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�1.08 per litre (correct spelling) here in the UK. Do the math.

Doesn't stop us driving cars.


--
Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.


TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:42:57 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 11:23 am, "The Medway Handyman"

It just makes them smaller. And that's only a partial solution.

I still welcome seeing Minis on the road and not Supersized
Unnecessary Vehicles. As a matter of fact I even welcome seeing the
Land Rovers with their narrow wheel track. ;)

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:46:16 PM12/30/09
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This is the REAL THING... One comment on Reverend Billy, then some
comments on it, and then me...

(FOOD FOR THOUGHT!)

On Dec 30, 11:27 am, Geode <leopoldo.perd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 dic, 06:41, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-
>
> in-the-jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Someone puts in a comment and then I put my own at bottom...
>
> > "It's easy for me to criticize those idiots who buy things with money
> > that they don't have or blame the system that encourage excessive
> > consumption. But at the back of my mind, I know if not for those
> > idiots out there, I wouldn't get a well paid job. Our economy is
> > supported by those idiots.
>
> > I don't condone excessive consumption. I believe people should live
> > well within their means. But we also need a new economic system. The
> > current one is clearly not sustainable for long run."
>
> That is my thinking. I know the old theory that an investor in the
> Stock Exchange is rational being. I do think that humans are not
> rational either. Or at least they are only marginally rational. So,
> as the system is working so far, with only minor crisis, we would
> continue spending limited resources till the scarcity of oil would
> explode in our face.
>
> To change the way we are running goes counterintuitive. If so far all
> is running so smoothly, why are we going to risk the present with a
> change?
>
> So, we are not rational beings. We are unable to change our course.
> it like some of us were like Kassandra. Due to her extreme beauty,
> she was gifted by Apollo to predict the future, but she rejected his
> sexual advances. Then Apollo sent a course on humanity, for nobody
> would believe her predictions.
>
> Leopoldo

Thank you for that valuable insight. Of course we agree and yet I see
a light: GOD OR THE REVOLUTION. Yes, if you believe in God you are
waiting for him to show up, but if you don't you know there's people
smart enough to realize that dilemma and offer a way out of the wrong
path.

HUMANISM
http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1

NOTE: I'm open to colaboration with Reverend Billy, who originated
that comment. We are both crazy enough to challenge the HUNGRY
LION. ;)

Lou Holtman

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:59:57 PM12/30/09
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Op 30-12-2009 19:47, TheTibetanMonkey schreef:


You don't have to pray. Just move to Europe. Gas is 1.465 euro/ltr. If i
convert that to Mickey Mouse units it is 7.80 dollar/gallon.

Lou

AMuzi

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:49:41 PM12/30/09
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Any idea how many furlongs per bushelbarrel ?
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

thirty-six

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:10:36 PM12/30/09
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On 30 Dec, 21:49, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> Lou Holtman wrote:
> > Op 30-12-2009 19:47, TheTibetanMonkey schreef:
> >> On Dec 30, 10:36 am, Father Haskell<fatherhask...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
> >>> On Dec 30, 1:26 pm, TheTibetanMonkey
>
> >>>> But I'm hoping that I can reach the sheep and tell them how I feel
> >>>> about their idiotic, consumeristic driving.
>
> >>> That just gets you run over.  Much easier to wait
> >>> until gasoline hits $5.00 / gallon.-
>
> >> What god do I have to pray to for that to happen?
>
> > You don't have to pray. Just move to Europe. Gas is 1.465 euro/ltr. If i
> > convert that to Mickey Mouse units it is 7.80 dollar/gallon.
>
> Any idea how many furlongs per bushelbarrel ?

Depends on the ratio of hay/oats.

andre...@aol.com

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:30:14 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 10:52 am, TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Is the bike that you ride made in a Chinese sweatshop by a poor woman
or some poor child like the ones that me and everyone else rides. In
that case we are all terrorists since we support economic systems that
terrorize vast sections of the population.

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:40:30 PM12/30/09
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Micky Mouse or Mighty Mouse?

Move to Europe? And what do we do with this Disney Land? The rising
waters will still flood the Netherlands...

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:43:36 PM12/30/09
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Yeah, but some are more terrorists than others. "Made in America,"
that dream is still alive?

Aren't we bringing democratic ideals and SUVs to China?

The Medway Handyman

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:36:22 PM12/30/09
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AMuzi wrote:
> Lou Holtman wrote:
>> Op 30-12-2009 19:47, TheTibetanMonkey schreef:
>>> On Dec 30, 10:36 am, Father Haskell<fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 30, 1:26 pm, TheTibetanMonkey
>>>
>>>>> But I'm hoping that I can reach the sheep and tell them how I feel
>>>>> about their idiotic, consumeristic driving.
>>>>
>>>> That just gets you run over. Much easier to wait
>>>> until gasoline hits $5.00 / gallon.-
>>>
>>> What god do I have to pray to for that to happen?
>>
>>
>> You don't have to pray. Just move to Europe. Gas is 1.465 euro/ltr.
>> If i convert that to Mickey Mouse units it is 7.80 dollar/gallon.
>
>
> Any idea how many furlongs per bushelbarrel ?

Can't expect a mercan to have any idea of the history of weights & measures
of course.

The Medway Handyman

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:42:04 PM12/30/09
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TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote:
> On Dec 30, 11:23 am, "The Medway Handyman"
> <davidl...@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> TheTibetanMonkey wrote:
>>> On Dec 30, 10:36 am, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 30, 1:26 pm, TheTibetanMonkey
>>
>>>>> But I'm hoping that I can reach the sheep and tell them how I feel
>>>>> about their idiotic, consumeristic driving.
>>
>>>> That just gets you run over. Much easier to wait
>>>> until gasoline hits $5.00 / gallon.-
>>
>>> What god do I have to pray to for that to happen?
>>
>> 1.08 per litre (correct spelling) here in the UK. Do the math.
>>
>> Doesn't stop us driving cars.
>>

>


> It just makes them smaller. And that's only a partial solution.

Cars here have always been smaller than those in the USA. We don't have the
space :-)

> I still welcome seeing Minis on the road and not Supersized
> Unnecessary Vehicles. As a matter of fact I even welcome seeing the
> Land Rovers with their narrow wheel track. ;)

Minis & Land Rovers. Both wonderful British designs.

Did you know that 75% of all the Land Rovers built since 1948 are still in
use? Now thats environmentally friendly :-)

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 30, 2009, 10:12:35 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 5:42 pm, "The Medway Handyman"
> Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Wow!

Yep, but the Rovers still inspired the Americans into the supersized
adventure vehicle trend. The problem is there was no savanna or jungle
to be found. Ironically the American SUVs became the top predator,
rather than the symbol of adventure in the African savannas.

So the BBC' wonderful nature documentaries may have had the wrong
results.

Well, maybe I'm wrong and whole project started in some office at GM's
headquarters.

Something funny. GM subsidiaries make wonderful, fun cars for
Europe... as if they considered the European smarter. ;)

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 30, 2009, 10:13:35 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 1:00 pm, "Mavisbeacon" <Mavisbea...@nospam.forme> wrote:

> On Dec 27, 7:53 pm, TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>

> > They are rather instrument of the powerful, though the bondsmen and
> > lawyers belong to another class altogether: THE VULTURES.
>
> > Whoever profits from the pain can't be expected to want to stop it.
>
> Over-simplification won't solve anything. Much as you label me a
> "Christian" when the Christians don't want me and likely you are
> closer to their P.O.V. than I.
> Blocking traffic (even only one lane), when what you do though just
> and right, will exacerbate an already congested situation and devolve
> sympathy for your cause and enrage others on the roadway and perhaps
> cause real hardship to some, may not be advantageous or helpful to a
> remedy.
> Encouraging folks to NOT drive across town to work, car pool, use
> smaller cheaper transport, live smaller, more efficient, DO less that
> uses non-renewable resource.
>
> ...Well there is one surefire way to encourage people to carpool and reduce
> car use.
> Triple the price of fuel and have free bicycles in cities.
> But what will the obese people do then? they cant cycle and they cant fit on
> a bus.
>
> Bt one has to draw lines somewhere. I mean while one could ban the
> automobile entirely this does not seem feasible.
> On the other hand why should people who do not waste as much have to cow tow
> to rich obese lazy people who prop up an auto industry which makes
> inefficient cars?

OK, no monkeying around here. That I tease the Christians because of
their loyalty to the lion, doesn't make me anti-Christian. Perhaps
they are anti-Christian in the true sense of the world.

Anyways, I'm sure there are better ways around claiming territory, but
things won't happen unless there's a crisis of some sort. The
government won't come knocking at your door and tell you everything is
ready for you to ride a bike. They won't! Now, the happy drivers must
admit they have kept the lion's share of the road and then some, and
the cyclists have simply no place to be. This the law of the jungle
out there: THE MORE YOU GIVE THE DRIVER THE MORE THEY WANT. And riding
on the edge of the road won't encourage the average Joe out there to
come out. We need people, lots of people.

TAKING THE LANE won't slow down traffic anymore than they moving over
somewhat and still leaving you in harm's way. They simply pass you too
close for safety and comfort, and then they still blast the horn at
you. It happened to me more than once this past summer while riding
the edge with my girlfriend. We were simply intimidated out of the
roads...

The Medway Handyman

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Dec 31, 2009, 8:39:07 AM12/31/09
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Not saying a word.... :-)

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 31, 2009, 11:37:26 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 5:39 am, "The Medway Handyman"

You know, the sharp-looking Ford Focus was a welcome relief in 2000.
Before you had to live with anonymous Japanese junk if you wanted a
small car. Last one I bought was a sharp Toyota Tercel sporty edition
that looked lie a BMW, but that was dangerous at any speed, and the
Toyota dealer told me, "You get what you pay for." Suzuki did make
some good little cars, but never caught on with Americans. And the
Koreans started making some nice little cars, even if they lacked in
style. Then the era of dinosaurs came, I mean the SUVs, and driving a
small car amounted to being a loser.

Most of the European cars are not allowed in America based on not
meeting certain "standards," and yet the SUVs roll off without meeting
any safety regulations. And they are deadly to others, due not only to
their mass, but to their higher bumpers.

Talk about a HUNGRY LION that wants NO competition.

Lou Holtman

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Op 31-12-2009 17:37, TheTibetanMonkey
showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle schreef:
>>>> Minis& Land Rovers. Both wonderful British designs.


Not meeting certain standards? I several US cars and many European cars
and all European cars handled better at high speed than any US made cars
I drove. Driving at 170-180 km/hr on the German Autobahn with a VW small
Mercedes, BMW or Audi? No problem, but I don't want to do that with any
of the US made cars I drove.

Lou

AMuzi

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:20:47 PM12/31/09
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For "standards" read "protectionism".

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:18:24 PM12/31/09
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They *look* fast on Hollywood movies.

I think half their movies are about car chases. ;)

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:22:53 PM12/31/09
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Keep the smart cars outside unless they are for the elites who can
afford Mercedes or Volvo. But even those are not available in stick
shift. Now most Americans wouldn't have a clue how to drive a car for
the fun of it. But the SUVs zigzag all around you at supersonic speeds
making you wonder if you are a sitting duck.

The way to go is to drive as idiotic like everybody else.

delboy

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On 31 Dec 2009, 16:37, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-
> Talk about a HUNGRY LION that wants NO competition.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Tests and statistics have shown that SUVs are far more likely to be
involved in roll over type accidents than normal cars, and these often
result in serious injury or death to the occupants. They are also more
likely to injure other road users and pedestrians due their mass and
high bumpers. So what safety standards?

Strict American anti-emissions regulations strangle engine power, so
you probably need an enormous gas-guzzler to go anywhere. These regs
may be designed to keep small engined European cars out of the US
market, and sod the carbon foorprint!

DC

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Everything seems to be said in two paragraphs. And we sit back and do
nothing --not even ride a bike-- while the whole world goes to the
dumps. That sounds like a recipe for disaster.

NOTE: I've changed my bicycle seat for my computer seat, which seems
to be more effective in changing the world.

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