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AMuzi

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Sep 25, 2022, 5:43:34 PM9/25/22
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Very impressive. This guy 'Mr Karen' has developed something
even more pathetic and useless than government programs!

https://nypost.com/2022/09/25/nyc-activist-takes-on-central-parks-speeding-tour-de-france-cyclists/


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Tom Kunich

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Sep 26, 2022, 11:31:44 AM9/26/22
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On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 2:43:34 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> Very impressive. This guy 'Mr Karen' has developed something
> even more pathetic and useless than government programs!
>
> https://nypost.com/2022/09/25/nyc-activist-takes-on-central-parks-speeding-tour-de-france-cyclists/

Many traffic laws that cyclists are expected to obey are designed for automobiles. It is stupid to expect a cyclist to come to a complete stop when a pedestrian is entering a crosswalk on the other side of the street or to remained stopped or stop AFTER a pedestrian has crossed your section of a crosswalk.

On the other hand too many cyclists are rude and endanger other people in order to retain a high average speed as if that is somehow important. It may be important to them and if so perhaps they should go to open areas where it bothers no one else.

80% of the population of the US is east of the Mississippi. If you want to go really fast race the crits.

John B.

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Sep 26, 2022, 6:51:40 PM9/26/22
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And yet again the amazing (stupid) Tommy strikes out.

" an estimated population of 179,948,346 or 58.28% of the total U.S.
population of 331,745,358"

One thing about silly old Tommy, he is on no danger of exceeding his
current record of 3 true statements in 17 years.
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Cheers,

John B.

Jeff Liebermann

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Sep 28, 2022, 11:04:47 PM9/28/22
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 08:31:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>80% of the population of the US is east of the Mississippi.

Wrong. In 1878, the climatic dividing line was the 100th meridian
(-100° longitude). Today, the line has moved eastward and is at the
98th meridian:
<https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/dividing-line-past-present-and-future-100th-meridian/>
The Mississippi River is at approximately the 90th meridian.

Please spend a few minutes verifying your numbers before posting.

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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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Frank Krygowski

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Sep 28, 2022, 11:43:20 PM9/28/22
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On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 11:04:47 PM UTC-4, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 08:31:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >80% of the population of the US is east of the Mississippi.
> Wrong. In 1878, the climatic dividing line was the 100th meridian
> (-100° longitude). Today, the line has moved eastward and is at the
> 98th meridian:
> <https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/dividing-line-past-present-and-future-100th-meridian/>
> The Mississippi River is at approximately the 90th meridian.
>
> Please spend a few minutes verifying your numbers before posting.

Jeff, you're far too optimistic! Tom will never change.

- Frank Krygowski

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Sep 30, 2022, 11:05:12 AM9/30/22
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On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:31:44 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 2:43:34 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > Very impressive. This guy 'Mr Karen' has developed something
> > even more pathetic and useless than government programs!
> >
> > https://nypost.com/2022/09/25/nyc-activist-takes-on-central-parks-speeding-tour-de-france-cyclists/
> Many traffic laws that cyclists are expected to obey are designed for automobiles. It is stupid to expect a cyclist to come to a complete stop when a pedestrian is entering a crosswalk on the other side of the street

I do. It's not that hard. It's called paying attention. I also stop for school busses picking up children on the other side of the street. Maybe you have problems braking at your 13 mph pace, but I don't have an issue stopping at 2o.

> or to remained stopped or stop AFTER a pedestrian has crossed your section of a crosswalk.

That's not the law here.

>
> On the other hand too many cyclists are rude and endanger other people in order to retain a high average speed as if that is somehow important. It may be important to them and if so perhaps they should go to open areas where it bothers no one else.
>
> 80% of the population of the US is east of the Mississippi.

"tom is right" - andrew mccoy

> If you want to go really fast race the crits.

I do...https://www.strava.com/activities/5610925094
https://www.strava.com/activities/5754188955

sms

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Sep 30, 2022, 11:47:50 AM9/30/22
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On 9/30/2022 8:05 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:31:44 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 2:43:34 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>> Very impressive. This guy 'Mr Karen' has developed something
>>> even more pathetic and useless than government programs!
>>>
>>> https://nypost.com/2022/09/25/nyc-activist-takes-on-central-parks-speeding-tour-de-france-cyclists/
>> Many traffic laws that cyclists are expected to obey are designed for automobiles. It is stupid to expect a cyclist to come to a complete stop when a pedestrian is entering a crosswalk on the other side of the street
>
> I do. It's not that hard. It's called paying attention. I also stop for school busses picking up children on the other side of the street. Maybe you have problems braking at your 13 mph pace, but I don't have an issue stopping at 2o.
>
>> or to remained stopped or stop AFTER a pedestrian has crossed your section of a crosswalk.
>
> That's not the law here.

In California, once the pedestrian goes past you then you can go,
whether in a car or on a bicycle.

If a pedestrian steps off the curb and into the crosswalk on the
opposite side of the street, and you're wanting to turn right, you have
to wait until they are all the way across, even if it's an eight-lane
road with a median. Lately, that's something that the sheriff's deputies
in my city have been enforcing at one intersection
<https://goo.gl/maps/nu7v5VT6YLKL2XBe7>. A lot of drivers break this law
so it's very easy to issue tickets for this infraction.

Personally I think that they should be enforcing the epidemic of cars
running red lights, and that only when a pedestrian has passed the
median on a six to eight lane divided road should they ticket drivers
for turning right in front of the pedestrian.

As to "California Stops," the reality is that while they are not legal,
either for vehicles or pedestrians, many of those stop signs should
really be yield signs, buy yield signs have gone out of fashion. Many
stop signs are put in just to slow traffic, and there are other ways to
do this that don't cause so much unnecessary starting and stopping. But
in the U.S., a lot of drivers really don't like roundabouts. The Costco
in Santa Clara recently replaced a nightmare four-way stop, that snarled
traffic, with a roundabout, and there have been many complaints about it
<https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/09/20/i-saw-people-driving-over-the-roundabout-trying-to-get-out-roadshow/>.


funkma...@hotmail.com

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Oct 4, 2022, 8:18:00 AM10/4/22
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Give it time:
https://www.iihs.org/topics/roundabouts
" - In three communities where single-lane roundabouts replaced stop sign-controlled intersections, 31 percent of drivers supported the roundabouts before construction, compared with 63 percent shortly after (Retting et al., 2002).
- In three other communities where a one- or two-lane roundabout replaced stop signs or traffic signals, 36 percent of drivers supported the roundabouts before construction compared with 50 percent shortly after (Retting et al., 2006).
- Follow-up surveys conducted in these six communities after roundabouts had been in place for more than one year found the level of public support increased to about 70 percent on average (Retting et al., 2007).
- When two intersections near Bellingham, Washington, were converted to two-lane roundabouts, support for the roundabouts went from 34 percent before construction to 51 percent six months after and 70 percent more than one year after (Hu et al., 2014)."

Frank Krygowski

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Oct 4, 2022, 12:54:44 PM10/4/22
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+1. One was installed on my former bike commute route. It replace a
traffic light that had sometimes given me trouble (I had to call to get
the loop detector sensitivity raised) and that often caused backups of
20 or more cars.

Some people were very skeptical ahead of time, some people were slightly
confused afterward. But traffic flow has improved tremendously.

There are some minor downsides. I think it's made it a bit harder for
the few pedestrians at that location. And when I'm on a different route,
it's made my left turn harder at an intersection about a quarter mile
away. I used to make that turn during the break between traffic
"platoons" generated by the traffic light. Now traffic is more
continuous, so it takes more patience to wait for a break I can use.

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- Frank Krygowski


Jeff Liebermann

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Oct 4, 2022, 1:33:16 PM10/4/22
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 05:17:58 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Give it time:
>https://www.iihs.org/topics/roundabouts
>" - In three communities where single-lane roundabouts replaced stop sign-controlled intersections, 31 percent of drivers supported the roundabouts before construction, compared with 63 percent shortly after (Retting et al., 2002).
> - In three other communities where a one- or two-lane roundabout replaced stop signs or traffic signals, 36 percent of drivers supported the roundabouts before construction compared with 50 percent shortly after (Retting et al., 2006).
> - Follow-up surveys conducted in these six communities after roundabouts had been in place for more than one year found the level of public support increased to about 70 percent on average (Retting et al., 2007).
> - When two intersections near Bellingham, Washington, were converted to two-lane roundabouts, support for the roundabouts went from 34 percent before construction to 51 percent six months after and 70 percent more than one year after (Hu et al., 2014)."

Ummm... My guess(tm) is that the local drivers that hated the
roundabout decided to use other routes after they were built. A
survey of the remaining riders would predictably have a higher
percentage of favorable opinions.

The dates on the 4 surveys mentioned were 2002, 2006, 2007, and 2014.
Besides being rather old surveys, they also have a rather wide spread
in years, which suggest that there may have been some cherry picking
of favorable surveys.

All 4 surveys require filling out a form in order to obtain a copy of
the report. No thanks.

The 2014 report is interesting in that last line of the report
suggests that drivers over 70 might be responsible for higher crash
rates by using alternate routes:
<https://www.iihs.org/topics/bibliography/ref/2033>
"However, it seemed the greater complexity of double-lane roundabouts
may present challenges as some confusion persisted one year after
construction, there was evidence that some older drivers may have
taken an alternative route to avoid them, and property damage-only
crash rates increased."

Partial disclosure: I'm over 70 and I hate roundabouts and similar
obstacle courses.

Sir Ridesalot

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Oct 4, 2022, 4:34:18 PM10/4/22
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I find a lot of the roundabouts hereabouts are extremely dangerous for bicyclists or pedestrians. Pedestrian crossings are located exactly where the auto traffic is speeding up to exit the roundabout. Those crossing places are a fantastic place to get the rundown feeling and unfortunately Geritol won't get rid of that rundown feeling.

Roundabouts are yet another thing built for the Almighty Car.

Cheers

pH

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Oct 4, 2022, 4:47:50 PM10/4/22
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When my mom was in an assisted living home in Napa I would go there via
bicycle and had to negotiate two round-a-bouts along the way which also
happened to have the least traffic and bike lanes along the rest of the
route.

I found the single lane round-a-bout (is "roundabout" the proper spelling?)
to be simple but the two-lane one was a different animal and invariably
involved stopping for differing long times and planning my assault on
crossing each arterial (even just one).

I can only imagine the three-lane European ones...it must be gruesome.

Maybe Roger M. or Andre J. can clue us in on how easy or hard it is.

I use my electric assist bike when I'm in Napa so I guess I lose points for
that.

I find you put in just as much effort as a 'normal' bike, you just go
faster. I built it from a kit in anticipation of $5/gallon gas and the wife
being the one w/ the car back when I was working.

we're there w/ $5+ gas, aren't we?

pH in Aptos

Radey Shouman

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Oct 4, 2022, 5:27:21 PM10/4/22
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I agree -- I don't mind the single lane ones on a bike, even if they are
fairly large. They are difficult for pedestrians if there is any
traffic to speak of.

On the other hand there is a two lane rotary near me (in Concord MA, on
route 2) that I will not ride for love nor money. Route 2 is an
arterial that really wants to be a limited access highway, and a few
minor streets cross it at the rotary. Cars enter two abreast, and the
guy on the left confidently expects to stay in his lane and exit in it.
Too bad for anyone on his right that might want to stay in the rotary.
One of my former co-workers had a car crash in just that way, and the
cop told him it was his fault, although I'm not sure how a person
figures that out.

> I can only imagine the three-lane European ones...it must be gruesome.
>
> Maybe Roger M. or Andre J. can clue us in on how easy or hard it is.
>
> I use my electric assist bike when I'm in Napa so I guess I lose points for
> that.
>
> I find you put in just as much effort as a 'normal' bike, you just go
> faster. I built it from a kit in anticipation of $5/gallon gas and the wife
> being the one w/ the car back when I was working.
>
> we're there w/ $5+ gas, aren't we?
>
> pH in Aptos

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AMuzi

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Oct 4, 2022, 5:45:47 PM10/4/22
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One proven solution to antipersonnel barricades is artillery.

This may be applicable to loopy-loop traffic obstacles and
would find support from me.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Oct 4, 2022, 5:50:19 PM10/4/22
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I'm well-acquainted with that one as well, and completely agree with you. I actually think it's pretty ridiculous that it isn't a limited access highway at that point. I suppose during rush hour it would be navigable since traffic is barely moving at that point, but I know I've taken that rotary at 50 in a sports car when traffic was light.

Frank Krygowski

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Oct 5, 2022, 1:15:23 PM10/5/22
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> pH in Aptos

I've ridden quite a few roundabouts and driven even more in France. I
had no problems either biking or driving them, although I hated to see
bike lanes painted in roundabouts in Troyes. Those turn a single lane
roundabout into a multi lane roundabout, and I don't like those. The
biggest hazard is a right hook by an exiting motorist, and bike lanes
increase the odds of right hooks.

The most extreme roundabout I recall was the one surrounding the Arc de
Triomphe in Paris. You can't count the lanes, because there aren't any -
it's more like a huge circular plaza with everyone negotiating
constantly. If the were to mark lanes, there would probably be ten of them.

I didn't ride that roundabout on the bike, although we rode many other
places in Paris (both on our bikes and on their "share" bikes). But I
saw other people riding it, apparently without problems.
https://goo.gl/maps/2fbzajMyL8Cx3kfm8

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- Frank Krygowski


Tim R

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Oct 7, 2022, 6:38:07 PM10/7/22
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One roundabout in Wuerzburg Germany scared me. 3 lanes plus bikes, and bikes had right of way. I did not want to get involved with Polizei and knew I'd be wrong no matter what.

I recently drove in Minneapolis and was surprised by the number of new roundabouts. I was told that since they've been in, accidents are down 66% and fatalities 86% at those intersections.

AMuzi

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Oct 7, 2022, 7:59:34 PM10/7/22
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On 10/7/2022 5:38 PM, Tim R wrote:
> One roundabout in Wuerzburg Germany scared me. 3 lanes plus bikes, and bikes had right of way. I did not want to get involved with Polizei and knew I'd be wrong no matter what.
>
> I recently drove in Minneapolis and was surprised by the number of new roundabouts. I was told that since they've been in, accidents are down 66% and fatalities 86% at those intersections.
>

I not only go out of my way to avoid them by bicycle but
also with a car. I suspect I am not alone in that which may
contribute to fewer crashes at those intersections.

Catrike Rider

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Oct 7, 2022, 8:05:46 PM10/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2022 18:59:30 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 10/7/2022 5:38 PM, Tim R wrote:
>> One roundabout in Wuerzburg Germany scared me. 3 lanes plus bikes, and bikes had right of way. I did not want to get involved with Polizei and knew I'd be wrong no matter what.
>>
>> I recently drove in Minneapolis and was surprised by the number of new roundabouts. I was told that since they've been in, accidents are down 66% and fatalities 86% at those intersections.
>>
>
>I not only go out of my way to avoid them by bicycle but
>also with a car. I suspect I am not alone in that which may
>contribute to fewer crashes at those intersections.

I was surprised by the number of roundabouts in the Madison area after
going there last month.

Sepp Ruf

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Oct 8, 2022, 12:33:10 PM10/8/22
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AMuzi wrote:
> On 10/7/2022 5:38 PM, Tim R wrote:
>> One roundabout in Wuerzburg Germany scared me. 3 lanes plus bikes,
>> and bikes had right of way. I did not want to get involved with
>> Polizei and knew I'd be wrong no matter what.

It's a matter of priorites. The latest badly crushed cyclist there
seems to have happened in 2017.
<https://www.wuerzburgerleben.de/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/BerlinerRing_01-1067x800.jpg>
The unoccupied inner lane looks safest. The straighter my line, the
less nauseating! :-)

>> I recently drove in Minneapolis and was surprised by the number of
>> new roundabouts. I was told that since they've been in, accidents
>> are down 66% and fatalities 86% at those intersections.
> > I not only go out of my way to avoid them by bicycle but also with a
> car. I suspect I am not alone in that which may contribute to fewer
> crashes at those intersections.

Just take the bus! Oh, wait -- ten injured, tree killed, this Thursday!
https://www.wuerzburgerleben.de/2022/10/06/verkehrsunfall-mit-linienbus-<am-berliner-ring/>
Bus driver experienced unspecified medical problems ... no way this
might have been Pfizertoxin-related, but *must* be due to climate change.

AMuzi

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Oct 8, 2022, 1:41:55 PM10/8/22
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A nice analysis!

Tom Kunich

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Oct 8, 2022, 5:37:43 PM10/8/22
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On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 3:38:07 PM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> One roundabout in Wuerzburg Germany scared me. 3 lanes plus bikes, and bikes had right of way. I did not want to get involved with Polizei and knew I'd be wrong no matter what.
>
> I recently drove in Minneapolis and was surprised by the number of new roundabouts. I was told that since they've been in, accidents are down 66% and fatalities 86% at those intersections.

Roundabouts replace traffic lights. People often run traffic lights but they can't run a roundabout. If they are designed properly the turns are sharp enough to force traffic to slow to safe speeds. But often car drivers complain about proper roundabouts so they make them larger and faster. But any place that has properly designed roundabouts will always have lower accidents and injuries.

Tom Kunich

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Oct 8, 2022, 5:44:24 PM10/8/22
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These covid-19 vaccines have been huge failures. The only people that like them are the investors who have made three fortunes off of them. That is about to end.
https://fortune.com/well/2022/10/03/new-covid-drug-antiviral-turns-virus-against-itself-coronavirus-prevent-spread-nmt5-scripps-paxlovid/

Note that this pill isn't yet FDA certified even though both components of this drug are used and both certified. Questions have to be put to the FDA pretty soon.

danny burstein

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Oct 8, 2022, 6:11:39 PM10/8/22
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In <ae932353-48c5-4c4d...@googlegroups.com> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> writes:

[snip]
>These covid-19 vaccines have been huge failures. The only people that
>like them are the investors who have made three fortunes off of them.
>That is about to end.

Hey, deathcultist. Stop with these bumdass half measures. Show
your fellow crazies "you mean business".

I'll cheerfully spot you the bus fare to the Koresh compound
in Waco, TX. Or to Applewhite's facility.

It's been decades since they've had any new recruits join
them. They'd be elated to see you.

Follow your Destiny. Don't be a pathetic coward.


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Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dan...@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

Mike A Schwab

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Oct 8, 2022, 9:14:19 PM10/8/22
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Not for a lack of trying to go straight thru at high speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQw9HcvIo_o

Tom Kunich

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Oct 9, 2022, 10:49:52 AM10/9/22
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On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 3:11:39 PM UTC-7, danny burstein wrote:
> In <ae932353-48c5-4c4d...@googlegroups.com> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> [snip]
> >These covid-19 vaccines have been huge failures. The only people that
> >like them are the investors who have made three fortunes off of them.
> >That is about to end.
> Hey, deathcultist. Stop with these bumdass half measures. Show
> your fellow crazies "you mean business".
>
> I'll cheerfully spot you the bus fare to the Koresh compound
> in Waco, TX. Or to Applewhite's facility.
>
> It's been decades since they've had any new recruits join
> them. They'd be elated to see you.
>
> Follow your Destiny. Don't be a pathetic coward.

I suggest that you moronic fools who believe that Fauci has saved you should also believe in miracles. Using the CDC's own statistics the vaccines have killed more people than they've prevented from contracting covid-19. I know that you haven't a clue on how to find these figures and I am just too damn tired of showing morons the way home. You could go out and watch the 'Dt. John Campbell videos but then like the idiots here you'd say that the pure statistics he is showing aren't valid because he isn't an MD but rather only a meager PhD.

Tom Kunich

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Oct 9, 2022, 10:53:15 AM10/9/22
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Judging from Krygowski's remarks that is just as likely to be Poland,, OH

John B.

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Oct 9, 2022, 8:26:17 PM10/9/22
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O.K. Tommy, I'll give you a chance to demonstrate that you aren't a
total fool (and dumb ass). So post the CDC site that shows that the
vaccine have killed more people then they prevented from contracting
the disease.

If you can't post the CDC figures I will assume that you are admitting
to be a liar, or perhaps a dumb all that can't count higher then ten
without taking his shoes off.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Tom Kunich

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Oct 10, 2022, 1:03:13 PM10/10/22
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On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 3:11:39 PM UTC-7, danny burstein wrote:
You will have to forgive me for trading insult for insult. I have actually spent my life working on medical instruments including up close and personal with that treasonous nitwit Fauci. Can you say the same? Best guess is that covid-19 is the result of gain of function research at the Wuhan containment facility which is illegal elsewhere in the world. And that facility was suggested to the Chinese Government and funded by the American taxpayer through Fauci.

Should it be surprising that Fauci after having convinced President Trump to take many of the safety features for developing vaccines which by their very nature are dangerous compounds, off of new vaccine development for a vaccine that has never been a particularly dangerous virus and then convinced the Biden administration to widely distribute an unknown vaccine on a level heretofore unheard of?

What has been the result of this? The Slime Stream Media and even the FDA who HAS the VAERS data has purposely hidden the results of these careless acts.

The CDC statistics show that only 8,000 people have died from covid-19 alone and that entirely in late March and early April of 2020 and since that time, deaths from respiratory diseases has been well below normal.

But what of the vaccines for which Fauci was being paid millions by the vaccine companies? https://www.vaccinedeaths.com/2022-10-05-cdc-study-1million-americans-die-to-vaccine.html

Now perhaps you're the sort of person that thinks that if you weren't killed that it doesn't matter, but I spend my life saving people and it makes a difference to me.

I am now 77 which supposedly puts me in the "kill zone" for this "deadly disease". Indeed I caught it. I had a slight fever and flu-like symptoms for 4 days and another 7 days feeling like crap but clearly recovering. Should you suggest I take a vaccine with unknown properties that was not properly developed or tested? Do you have any idea what mRNA does in the human body? Now they're using this same technique for developing flu vaccines. Can you trust for one second that this doesn't also have fatal side effects?

danny burstein

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Oct 10, 2022, 1:09:03 PM10/10/22
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>You will have to forgive me for trading insult for insult. I have actually =
>spent my life working on medical instruments including up close and persona=
>l with that treasonous nitwit Fauci.i

Sorry, CULTIST, but your use of bumdass and irrelevant personal
attacks like that just cements your stupidity.

Tom Kunich

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Oct 10, 2022, 1:26:14 PM10/10/22
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And yet you cannot supply any information on your supposed experience in actual science of any sort. Why is it that you seem to have only the ability to throw insults but not the ability to display any expertise in the actual subject of the conversation. My credentials are on LinkedIn if you care to look them up. Aside from being the first one to develop sufficient mechanization of Dr. Kary Mullis's PCR chemistry so that we could discover the source of AIDS, I have worked on so many medical instruments that it would be difficult for you to be admitted to an ER without them using instruments I designed and programmed or later versions of them. I also designed and programmed diagnostic tools such as gas and liquid chromatographs.

Precisely what have you done with your life that you feel the capacity to insult my thoughts on these matters?

Frank Krygowski

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Oct 10, 2022, 5:09:22 PM10/10/22
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On 10/10/2022 1:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 10:09:03 AM UTC-7, danny burstein wrote:
>> In <a76c6565-dc72-43d0...@googlegroups.com> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> [snip]
>>> You will have to forgive me for trading insult for insult. I have actually =
>>> spent my life working on medical instruments including up close and persona=
>>> l with that treasonous nitwit Fauci.i
>>
>> Sorry, CULTIST, but your use of bumdass and irrelevant personal
>> attacks like that just cements your stupidity.
>> --
>> _____________________________________________________
>> Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
>> dan...@panix.com
>> [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
> And yet you cannot supply any information on your supposed experience in actual science of any sort. Why is it that you seem to have only the ability to throw insults but not the ability to display any expertise in the actual subject of the conversation. My credentials are on LinkedIn if you care to look them up. Aside from being the first one to develop sufficient mechanization of Dr. Kary Mullis's PCR chemistry so that we could discover the source of AIDS, I have worked on so many medical instruments that it would be difficult for you to be admitted to an ER without them using instruments I designed and programmed or later versions of them.

Danny, you should understand that Tom's LinkedIn resume has been the
subject of much discussion here, starting with Jeff's helpful efforts to
help Tom fix at least a few of its obvious errors and contradictions.
Jeff's charity was met with insults and other attacks. Apparently many
of the errors remain on the resume.

Tom's resume shows a long, long history of failing to hold on to any job
for more than about three years. Most of the jobs are rather low level
programming work. The resume also documents no education, including not
even a high school diploma. Tom is quite proud of never going to any
university, yet knowing more than almost anyone in the world, it seems.

And Tom's never provided any independent verification of his purportedly
miraculous medical expertise and accomplishments. We've heard that he
saved the world from AIDS, programmed the Space Shuttle and much else.
Oddly, the world hasn't seemed to notice.

Tom "remembers" that he's led quite an amazing life. Sadly, every
attempt at documentation comes up empty or worse.

--
- Frank Krygowski

danny burstein

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In <ti21lv$t0pi$1...@dont-email.me> Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> writes:

[long list of stuff snipped for space.]

>Tom "remembers" that he's led quite an amazing life. Sadly, every
>attempt at documentation comes up empty or worse.

Thanks. I look at it this way. If you remember the movie
"Mr. Smith Goes to Wash his Hands", the junior Senator,
portrayed by Jimmy Stewart, says "lost causes are the
only ones worth fighting for..."

(Yes, we all know he was throwing Clayde Raine's - the senior
Senator's - words back at him).

Thanks again.

Tom Kunich

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There is a saying "Those who can, do, and those who can't teach." This saying drives Krygowski crazy because not only could he not perform as a mechanical engineer in industry (with thousands of jobs available) But he has even said that he taught mechanical engineering when Youngstown U where he taught said that he taught Industrial Engineering which is an entirely different subject.

Frank telling you that Jeff Liebermann "corrected" my resume is equally idiotic. Jeff lives 15 miles from Silicon Valley, holds a degree in electrical engineering and has NEVER been able to get a single job in electronics and makes a poor living fixing printers. The idea that he could correct anything is as ridiculous as a man who hasn't been able to hold a job in mechanical engineering teaching it.

Again, you present absolutely no evidence that you could even understand the bare basics of science so perhaps you'd like to do that before making comments about my qualifications because a couple of jealous fools would criticize my work when it stands by itself.

Again, my LinkedIn file is open to everyone. The file was initially 24 pages long but I was asked to shorten it. That several of the resume's were targeted to specific jobs does not mean that there is any inaccuracies there, most especially by an "electronics engineer" who could not find employment in Silicon Valley when it was boiling at its hottest and they were turning HUNDREDS of technicians into engineers.

https://www.linkedin.com/public-profile/settings Dr. McCown's recommendation is at the bottom. After he retired from REAL work he became lecturer in Chemistry at the University of Texas. His recommendation of our highly technical foray into the mathematical basis of PCR chemistry which was used to discover HIV as the source of AIDS left out the fact that I had designed the entire electronics package for the basic two samplers I designed and programmed. I also designed and programmed the controllers, thermal cyclers for use with this system and many other instruments.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/163276237068?hash=item260405a90c:g:yBYAAOxy7AxSK3wI&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoKYvOEcKgUU%2FxiSWDjYPb05efrZXFUHQpegE79ciadquT%2FGoaACT0zFzHm34SN4c8sJzf9HsuDcub70AnDq0Ea9JzfhfuF%2BYnTXQVnio%2BYKbruUfr0cLInYPER%2BZedj0A7QAmGcPScvuY%2FM7moTJxkGhFmYeKUE9aolXyv%2BmwMeVMHkeNmkowlgi53ouzoDMZ0afFKmtgxrSGXHVgW9m4KU%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4DKur_4YA

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123821952887?hash=item1cd45d0f77:g:Lo0AAOSwOVpXY80U&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4GYyKwkWe7nSLi788ijgvk33ZQ5dtXjy5T%2FaEnbSa1rkI35ShwfeMoMzGdnkN6PdzyBNG63QZPwvBBlckrXs9QKUmDmRha8CEKPCOWfSoJ2MStRFewOoEDBSRl01YPRggh9WcGAWzlqmkcvWHEk2eoNdLeiP6J%2FGzy2zv6AJZT6puktAg%2F%2FiK6WgaTw%2FjGWP9idsFvjqYiE5wOj2Lrs6a%2BLt5zJcEnxEYg%2FUB25eXVT9qkQTgOtfUWMTrNq5GxKC%2BhMO02buvcUGlfGVdqKtYSxjDuKBGJCZQGNx8oSpbIUo%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuLSPwPhg

I guess I would like to know why you have no training whatsoever in science and are more than willing to accept comments from a couple of incompetent boobs because you don't like the things I say? I understand that they don't like me because I have actually proven their shortcomings. But where is it that you come off making any comments at all?

John B.

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Re Tommy's resume... the very first entry is a lie (:-)
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Cheers,

John B.

John B.

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Ah Tommy, you give yourself too much credit - "because I have actually
proven their shortcomings" - And what are these short comings? I own
two houses, Frank and Jeff apparently own nice houses on large
property lots while you live in a slum, as you, yourself, describe it.

And as for your famous "Resume" I believe I have written that I sent
requests for verification to 10 of the companies you list having
employed you, and got 4 responses. Three stated that no Tom, or
Thomas, Kunich had ever been employed by their company and one replied
that a "T. Kunich" had been employed by them for a short time but they
did not wish to discuss the reasons for his termination.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Frank Krygowski

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On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 6:34:36 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> writes:
> > >Tom "remembers" that he's led quite an amazing life. Sadly, every
> > >attempt at documentation comes up empty or worse.
> >
> There is a saying "Those who can, do, and those who can't teach." This saying drives Krygowski crazy because not only could he not perform as a mechanical engineer in industry (with thousands of jobs available) But he has even said that he taught mechanical engineering when Youngstown U where he taught said that he taught Industrial Engineering which is an entirely different subject.

I'm sorry that your reading comprehension is so terrible, Tom.

> Again, my LinkedIn file is open to everyone.

Sorry, I'm not on LinkedIn. Never have been. Never needed to be, although some engineering friends
(like one at NASA in Cleveland) did invite me to join. Again, I was secure in my job. I didn't see the need.

> The file was initially 24 pages long but I was asked to shorten it.

I suspect that people who were capable of holding a job don't have 24 page resumes. I've examined
hundreds of resumes of people with engineering degrees. I don't recall ever seeing one that long.
If you had applied to join our department, even if you had engineering degrees (let alone a high
school diploma), your changing jobs at least every three years would have sent your resume straight
to the cylindrical file.

> https://www.linkedin.com/public-profile/settings Dr. McCown's recommendation is at the bottom.

Again, I won't join LinkedIn just to look at your nonsense. But: That's it? You claim amazing
and critical developments, but nobody has mentioned you except one buddy? No mention of
your name in professional journals? No award ceremonies? Nothing but your word and that
of a buddy?

> https://www.ebay.com/itm/163276237068?hash=item260405a90c:g:yBYAAOxy7AxSK3wI&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoKYvOEcKgUU%2FxiSWDjYPb05efrZXFUHQpegE79ciadquT%2FGoaACT0zFzHm34SN4c8sJzf9HsuDcub70AnDq0Ea9JzfhfuF%2BYnTXQVnio%2BYKbruUfr0cLInYPER%2BZedj0A7QAmGcPScvuY%2FM7moTJxkGhFmYeKUE9aolXyv%2BmwMeVMHkeNmkowlgi53ouzoDMZ0afFKmtgxrSGXHVgW9m4KU%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4DKur_4YA

This may confuse you, Tom, but a link to an Ebay entry isn't generally accepted as proof that any
one person had anything to do with that device. (I'll note it's not called a Kunich machine.)

But tell us, what _exactly_ do you claim to have done there? Tell us specifically what the machine
does, how it works, and what you claim to have done during its development.

- Frank Krygowski

John B.

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I read, probably, hundreds of resumes during the period I was
"Operations Manager" for the company and frankly I would throw a 24
page resume in the waste paper bin. In fact the agent we employed in
the U.S. wouldn't have bothered to forward any such thing.

The typical resume, in the construction trades would list the
employee's name, date of birth, and education at the top of the page
and then the jobs he had in sequence. Something like:

"1 Jun 1988 - 1 Jun 1989 - Project Manager on project with Government
of Indonesia for construction of 25 Km of public road and three
bridges. Project successfully completed on schedule and within
budget."

What more could one want?

--
Cheers,

John B.

Jeff Liebermann

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 17:28:42 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
<frkr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 6:34:36 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The file was initially 24 pages long but I was asked to shorten it.

>I suspect that people who were capable of holding a job don't have 24 page resumes. I've examined
>hundreds of resumes of people with engineering degrees. I don't recall ever seeing one that long.
>If you had applied to join our department, even if you had engineering degrees (let alone a high
>school diploma), your changing jobs at least every three years would have sent your resume straight
>to the cylindrical file.

Tom's resume was previously only 14 pages long:
(Feb 2, 2021)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/5Dzs6MuEgY0/m/EvXTIo3KBAAJ>
"My resume and my recommendations are on LinkedIn so you can
look them up anytime you like. That is a mere 3 pages of so
of a 14 page resume that used to go into great detail. So
you don't believe me, you can always look it up and prove
me a liar."
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>

I guess(tm) that the recent cancerous growth of the resume to 24 pages
was due to inflation. If I were doing triage on a pile of resumes, a
24 page resume would immediately land in the trash. If a 24 page
resume is an indication of what to expect in the future, I would not
be interested in someone who is unable to be concise and to make my
life easier.

During the 1970's, I was looking through a stack of resumes for an
engineering technician position. For triage, the personnel department
made it clear that the initial resume was to be no longer than 1 page
and that additional detail could be added just prior to the interview.
That worked quite well when I was stuck with sifting through 500
resumes over one holiday weekend. The big surprise was when one
resume was printed on a rolled biblical scroll:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=biblical+scroll&tbm=isch>
I couldn't resist, so I phoned the candidate. He indicated that a
scroll is exactly 1 page long. He also mentioned that the scroll
always attracted the attention of the right people. He didn't get the
job, but he did get to interview and meet most of the middle managers.



--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Tommy's claimed experience in the medical electronics industry is as much fabricated as it is exaggerated. He may very well have worked on some level with medical electronics, but his exhibited knowledge base here in this forum belies any real expertise to the extent that it's obvious no one ever hired him as anything above the level of an entry-level bench tech. He's never designed _any_ aspect of any medical electronic device. As to his "spent my life working on medical instruments", he worked at a couple of jobs for a total of 5 years - hardly what any rational human would refer to as a career in the industry, and he has never had any interaction on any level with Fauci - that's one of tommy's famous and many blatant lies. Wait till you get him going on how great the economy was doing before Obama took office. In short, you're correct, he's a trump-cultist, and not a very bright one at that.

Tim R

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On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 9:20:52 PM UTC-4, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> During the 1970's, I was looking through a stack of resumes for an
> engineering technician position. For triage, the personnel department
> made it clear that the initial resume was to be no longer than 1 page
> and that additional detail could be added just prior to the interview.
> That worked quite well when I was stuck with sifting through 500
> resumes over one holiday weekend.
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Sometimes the system forces a longer resume even though we all know better.

I have read a very large number of resumes for US Federal government jobs. The problem is that resumes are screened by a personnel department before I see them, and the personnel departments are generally forced (by Congress) to follow a number of rather bureacratic OPM steps, with the laudable intent to ensure fairness, but with unintended consequences. Hence I reviewed 12 page resumes for an entry level supply clerk. In addition, some parts of government have had hiring freezes for much of the past 30 years, resulting in most people who apply for a different job already having a 15 page or so resume just with the recent relevant work.

My daughter graduated from college with a clean and instantly assessable 1 page resume. I would have given a lot to have resumes like that show up on my desk. When she applied for a Federal job I helped her "improve" it to about 6 pages which got her through to the interview.

Frank Krygowski

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On 10/11/2022 9:28 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 1:09:03 PM UTC-4, danny burstein wrote:
>> In <a76c6565-dc72-43d0...@googlegroups.com> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> [snip]
>>> You will have to forgive me for trading insult for insult. I have actually =
>>> spent my life working on medical instruments including up close and persona=
>>> l with that treasonous nitwit Fauci.i
>>
>> Sorry, CULTIST, but your use of bumdass and irrelevant personal
>> attacks like that just cements your stupidity.
>> --
>> _____________________________________________________
>> Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
>> dan...@panix.com
>> [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
>
> Tommy's claimed experience in the medical electronics industry is as much fabricated as it is exaggerated. He may very well have worked on some level with medical electronics, but his exhibited knowledge base here in this forum belies any real expertise to the extent that it's obvious no one ever hired him as anything above the level of an entry-level bench tech. He's never designed _any_ aspect of any medical electronic device. As to his "spent my life working on medical instruments", he worked at a couple of jobs for a total of 5 years - hardly what any rational human would refer to as a career in the industry...

My guess is that Tom programmed motion control for those little
instruments he brags about, and perhaps other automatic functions like
temperature control, opening and closing solenoids, etc.

If so, it would be a level of programming below that used by students in
robotics competitions. It would certainly be below the level of
programming I've done on robotic workcells.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Tom Kunich

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Can you just imagine that Jeff who never held a single engineering job is telling you about my resume? Exactly what does he know about resume's? His is one page - "Repaired printers" and " performed amateur job of making a ham radio repeater". When you actually have accomplishments to spare you tone your resume down to fit the job you're applying for.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Yes, he once bragged about programming stepper motors as well. Given that he once claimed a speed calculation on a cycling computer was a complicated algorithm, and then couldn't decipher 20 lines of java written for an arduino that a high-school kid posted on line that did just that (a discussion that turned out to be so embarrassing he deleted the entire discussion), it isn't tough to imagine the rest of his programming expertise was using a packaged utility where he simply wrote a number into a field and pressed enter.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:20:49 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> When you actually have accomplishments to spare you tone your resume down to fit the job you're applying for.

Then why did you resort to lies and exaggerations?

Tom Kunich

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By the way Jeff, people don't like you and I have received several private emails on the subject of you. I was making $233,000/yr at Datum and not Tality or whatever. My salary has been over $150,000/yr at every place I worked since Thoratec, you know, when you've been lucky to make $10/hr repairing printers. Seems like you don't know a single thing about engineering jobs but you can talk about them because you like showing everyone what a fool you are. If I can't hold a job explain why every new job I went to I made a higher salary? I have had it suggested that your so-called Diploma is a fake. It is easy enough to fake since I gave one of the members of our riding group (you know - people who actually ride bicycles?) a Presidential citation complete with Obama's signature on it when he turned 88. There is most =certainly a reason that that you couldn't get an engineering job in the hottest market in the entire world. This is why you have spent the last several years making enemies among the posters here. Without Slocumb - another non-rider and Google intelligentsia to back you up perhaps you'd catch a clue.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:58:16 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:

> By the way Jeff, people don't like you and I have received several private emails on the subject of you.

Bullshit.

> I was making $233,000/yr at Datum

Bullshit.

> and not Tality or whatever. My salary has been over $150,000/yr at every place I worked since Thoratec

Bullshit.

>, you know, when you've been lucky to make $10/hr repairing printers. Seems like you don't know a single thing about engineering jobs but you can talk about them because you like showing everyone what a fool you are.

Projection.

> If I can't hold a job explain why every new job I went to I made a higher salary?

Bullshit.

> I have had it suggested that your so-called Diploma is a fake.

Bullshit.

> It is easy enough to fake since I gave one of the members of our riding group (you know - people who actually ride bicycles?) a Presidential citation complete with Obama's signature on it when he turned 88.

I'm sure he appreciated it - much like he appreciated a crayon drawing from his toddler great-grand child.

> There is most =certainly a reason that that you couldn't get an engineering job in the hottest market in the entire world.

Couldn't vs didn't want to. You're definitely the former. Jeff struck out on his own and didn't have to resort moving into his mothers house.

> This is why you have spent the last several years making enemies among the posters here.

BIG projection

> Without Slocumb - another non-rider and Google intelligentsia to back you up perhaps you'd catch a clue.

Pity you haven't.....

Tim R

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On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:03:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> My guess is that Tom programmed motion control for those little
> instruments he brags about, and perhaps other automatic functions like
> temperature control, opening and closing solenoids, etc.
>

If that is the case, it is a sloppy use of the term.
Our control shop called that "parameter input," akin to setting the temperature on a thermostat, not "programming."

Tom Kunich

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Then how do you explain the recommendation of Dr. McCown? I have to wonder why you would react to Krygowski after he has been shown to be capable of saying absolutely anything? Everyone has watched him say that the only way to ride was to take the lane. And then when he received bad reviews even from his fellow jerks he said that he only meant when there wasn't sufficient room on the right? That is neither what he said nor meant.

Precise positioning within a thousandths of an inch of cell center is far more difficult than you seem to think. Remember that these sample plates are 96 cells designed to measurements that do not allow the chemistry to mix between samples. I decided on the stepping motors and the gear ratios to be small enough that I have plenty of adjusting ability. And thermocyclers had a temperature profile of heating and cooling to hundredths of a degree for several profile cycles. Question: When you don't know anything about these things why in the hell would you listen for one second to a failed mechanical engineer that knows absolutely nothing about it? Or for that matter to Flunky who once claimed to be programmer but has never made one sensible statement about programming. Especially in the half dozen languages I have heavy experience in.

I haven't done work for the US Army or NASA because I don't know what I'm doing.

How do you explain the constant increase in wages? I just got my financial report from Stiehl yesterday and despite the market being down nearly 20% my total worth is almost back to where it was before Obama. When the market revives I will be well over a million dollars. But I'm sure that Lieberman will tell us all that that is presently chickenfeed because he is making $3,000 a month. Why would anyone pay for printer repair when newer and better printers are so cheap?

I have been calling these guys the stupid six for a reason. But more and more they are showing themselves to be a clown car without a circus to be employed in.

Remember when I said that after my work with queers dying of AIDS that Seaton was sounding just like one and he denied it and now has come out of the closet? It isn't as if I or anyone else here could give a shit what he does with his own health. At best I could warn him but that is plainly too late.

Remember that Krygowski claimed to teach mechanical engineering and I showed you the Youngstown curriculum that said he taught industrial engineering? For my entire career Silicon Valley was the hottest high tech employment center in the entire world. They were generating hundreds of technicians to engineers and these guys were competent. So how is it that Liebermann with his claimed degree in electrical engineering could never manage to get a job? These are the sorts of people that you are going to listen to?

Parameter input? When you don't understand the problem don't forward wild guesses. Chemistry isn't cooking spare ribs.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 10:34:40 AM UTC-4, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:03:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > My guess is that Tom programmed motion control for those little
> > instruments he brags about, and perhaps other automatic functions like
> > temperature control, opening and closing solenoids, etc.
> >
> If that is the case, it is a sloppy use of the term.

Not surprising coming from tom.

> Our control shop called that "parameter input," akin to setting the temperature on a thermostat, not "programming."

Tommy considers it programming in the sense that one can buy a 'programmable' thermostat

Frank Krygowski

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On 10/12/2022 12:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 7:34:40 AM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:03:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> My guess is that Tom programmed motion control for those little
>>> instruments he brags about, and perhaps other automatic functions like
>>> temperature control, opening and closing solenoids, etc.
>>>
>> If that is the case, it is a sloppy use of the term.
>> Our control shop called that "parameter input," akin to setting the temperature on a thermostat, not "programming."
>
> Then how do you explain the recommendation of Dr. McCown?

I don't remember the details of his recommendation, but if it was
specific and significant, perhaps it was in return for, oh, some favor?

> I have to wonder why you would react to Krygowski after he has been shown to be capable of saying absolutely anything? Everyone has watched him say that the only way to ride was to take the lane. And then when he received bad reviews even from his fellow jerks he said that he only meant when there wasn't sufficient room on the right? That is neither what he said nor meant.

Bullshit. You're lying. To prove you're not, give a direct quote of me
saying what you claim, with a link to the post.

> Precise positioning within a thousandths of an inch of cell center is far more difficult than you seem to think. Remember that these sample plates are 96 cells designed to measurements that do not allow the chemistry to mix between samples.

Ah, so it _was_ just programming motion control and other minor
functions, as I surmised.

Tom, "within thousandths of an inch" is not particularly unusual. I did
tons of programming and interface work with industrial robots whose
repeatability was closer than a few thousandths of an inch. I taught
hundreds of students the techniques, and many of them used them later in
their careers. Yes, it requires some competence. No, it's not an
astounding skill.

> I haven't done work for the US Army or NASA because I don't know what I'm doing.

In these debates, I always like to take the opportunity to agree with an
opponent when possible. It spreads a little good will.

And I heartily agree with that statement of Tom's. He didn't do work for
the U.S. Army of NASA. Why? Because he doesn't know what he's doing. :-)

> Remember that Krygowski claimed to teach mechanical engineering and I showed you the Youngstown curriculum that said he taught industrial engineering?

:-) Good Grief! The man can't remember what the school's website says!

Show us the link, Tom. If it really has me associated with Industrial
Engineering, it can be corrected. But I strongly suspect you're just
fantasizing yet again.

--
- Frank Krygowski

funkma...@hotmail.com

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On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:00:36 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 7:34:40 AM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:03:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > My guess is that Tom programmed motion control for those little
> > > instruments he brags about, and perhaps other automatic functions like
> > > temperature control, opening and closing solenoids, etc.
> > >
> > If that is the case, it is a sloppy use of the term.
> > Our control shop called that "parameter input," akin to setting the temperature on a thermostat, not "programming."
> Then how do you explain the recommendation of Dr. McCown?

He lost a bet?

> I have to wonder why you would react to Krygowski after he has been shown to be capable of saying absolutely anything? Everyone has watched him say that the only way to ride was to take the lane.

He never said that.

> And then when he received bad reviews even from his fellow jerks he said that he only meant when there wasn't sufficient room on the right? That is neither what he said nor meant.

Yes, stupid, that's what he wrote, and that's what he meant.

>
> Precise positioning within a thousandths of an inch of cell center is far more difficult than you seem to think.

.001" resolution is much simpler than you seem to think. I was using a desk top PCB prototyping router with .1 mil resolution 20 years ago. The unit only cost a few thousand dollars. Today, their entry-level unit boasts .01 mil.

> Remember that these sample plates are 96 cells designed to measurements that do not allow the chemistry to mix between samples. I decided on the stepping motors and the gear ratios to be small enough that I have plenty of adjusting ability. And thermocyclers had a temperature profile of heating and cooling to hundredths of a degree for several profile cycles. Question: When you don't know anything about these things why in the hell would you listen for one second to a failed mechanical engineer that knows absolutely nothing about it? Or for that matter to Flunky who once claimed to be programmer but has never made one sensible statement about programming. Especially in the half dozen languages I have heavy experience in.

A), I _never_ claimed to be a programmer.
b) That you don't understand the programming I have commented on is your problem, not mine.
c) Pushing a button on a programmed device doesn't mean you have experience programming in the language the device is programmed in.

Tommy seems to for get he deleted an entire conversation where he was confused about how a cycling computer calculates speed after I posted 20 lines of java written by a highschooler.

>
> I haven't done work for the US Army or NASA because I don't know what I'm doing.
>
> How do you explain the constant increase in wages?

You lied.

> I just got my financial report from Stiehl yesterday and despite the market being down nearly 20% my total worth is almost back to where it was before Obama.

So you never made money in the trump years? You're a moron.

> When the market revives I will be well over a million dollars.

1M in a retirement account isn't all that impressive these days, especially from someone who repeatedly claims $150K/year just on his investments.

> But I'm sure that Lieberman will tell us all that that is presently chickenfeed because he is making $3,000 a month. Why would anyone pay for printer repair when newer and better printers are so cheap?
>
> I have been calling these guys the stupid six for a reason. But more and more they are showing themselves to be a clown car without a circus to be employed in.
>
> Remember when I said that after my work with queers dying of AIDS

Liar.

>that Seaton was sounding just like one and he denied it and now has come out of the closet?

He did? so what?

> It isn't as if I or anyone else here could give a shit what he does with his own health. At best I could warn him but that is plainly too late.

Too late for what?

>
> Remember that Krygowski claimed to teach mechanical engineering and I showed you the Youngstown curriculum that said he taught industrial engineering?

Yes, we also showed you that isn't what the website actually said.

> For my entire career Silicon Valley was the hottest high tech employment center in the entire world. They were generating hundreds of technicians to engineers and these guys were competent.

Too bad you were never part of that club.

> So how is it that Liebermann with his claimed degree in electrical engineering could never manage to get a job?

His resume shows a much more impressive career than yours.

> These are the sorts of people that you are going to listen to?

What a whiny little shiut.

>
> Parameter input? When you don't understand the problem don't forward wild guesses.

Tim is right, you're wrong, (as usual)

> Chemistry isn't cooking spare ribs.

Actually, cooking _is_ chemistry.
https://www.advancedchemtech.com/chemistry-and-cooking-what-you-need-to-know/

funkma...@hotmail.com

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I caught that too, Was going to comment but spaced it.

John B.

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On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 09:00:34 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 7:34:40 AM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:03:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> > My guess is that Tom programmed motion control for those little
>> > instruments he brags about, and perhaps other automatic functions like
>> > temperature control, opening and closing solenoids, etc.
>> >
>> If that is the case, it is a sloppy use of the term.
>> Our control shop called that "parameter input," akin to setting the temperature on a thermostat, not "programming."
>
>Then how do you explain the recommendation of Dr. McCown? I have to wonder why you would react to Krygowski after he has been shown to be capable of saying absolutely anything? Everyone has watched him say that the only way to ride was to take the lane. And then when he received bad reviews even from his fellow jerks he said that he only meant when there wasn't sufficient room on the right? That is neither what he said nor meant.
>
>Precise positioning within a thousandths of an inch of cell center is far more difficult than you seem to think. Remember that these sample plates are 96 cells designed to measurements that do not allow the chemistry to mix between samples. I decided on the stepping motors and the gear ratios to be small enough that I have plenty of adjusting ability. And thermocyclers had a temperature profile of heating and cooling to hundredths of a degree for several profile cycles. Question: When you don't know anything about these things why in the hell would you listen for one second to a failed mechanical engineer that knows absolutely nothing about it? Or for that matter to Flunky who once claimed to be programmer but has never made one sensible statement about programming. Especially in the half dozen languages I have heavy experience in.
>
>I haven't done work for the US Army or NASA because I don't know what I'm doing.
>
>How do you explain the constant increase in wages? I just got my financial report from Stiehl yesterday and despite the market being down nearly 20% my total worth is almost back to where it was before Obama. When the market revives I will be well over a million dollars. But I'm sure that Lieberman will tell us all that that is presently chickenfeed because he is making $3,000 a month. Why would anyone pay for printer repair when newer and better printers are so cheap?

Yes Sir! Worth a million and living in a cheap house in a self
described slum and driving a second-hand Ford.

One of the problems with telling lies, Mark Twain told us many years
ago, is that you have to remember all the lies you have told as
otherwise other people will remember your lies and know that you are
lying yet again.

And, Tommy has a very poor memory (:-(

--
Cheers,

John B.

John B.

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Oct 12, 2022, 8:40:10 PM10/12/22
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Well, I don't know about the Army or NASA but he could have gotten a
job with the Air Force. They hired a lot of people like Tommy to wash
airplanes or peel potatoes and empty the garbage in the Mess Halls.
--
Cheers,

John B.

Jeff Liebermann

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On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 08:58:14 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>By the way Jeff, people don't like you and I have received
>several private emails on the subject of you.

You're lying. If that were true, you would have mentioned the subject
of the private email. I don't mind your lies too much. What bothers
me is the you're such a terrible liar. Can't you take the time to
make your lies believable?
"8 ways to be a better liar"
<https://www.insider.com/how-to-be-a-good-liar-2018-3>

>I was making $233,000/yr at Datum and not Tality or whatever.
>My salary has been over $150,000/yr at every place I worked
>since Thoratec...

That would be everything on your online resume since 1984:
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
I don't recall the salary for a firmware programmer in 1984, but my
guess(tm) is about $25,000 with zero experience. I don't know what
you did between your Air Force career ending in about 1966 and being
hired by Thoratec. That's about an 18 year black hole. Please don't
tell me it was all on your lost 14 page resume.

>...when you've been lucky to make $10/hr repairing printers.

You're being generous. At times, my printer laser repairs made even
less, sometimes at a net loss. That's because I enjoy fixing laser
printers, just like I enjoy fixing calculators, chainsaws, power tools
etc and can afford to fix them at a loss.

>Seems like you don't know a single thing about engineering jobs
>but you can talk about them because you like showing everyone what
>a fool you are.

Amazing logic. Do you really think anyone (except you) likes to make
themselves look like a fool?

>If I can't hold a job explain why every new job I went to I made
>a higher salary?

Since I don't know your actual salary history, I can't explain it to
you. Perhaps it was inflation?

>I have had it suggested that your so-called Diploma is a fake.

You lie. However, you can find out the truth for only $21:
<https://nscverifications.org/welcome-to-verification-services/>
$15 plus $6 school surcharge. If want me to run it for you, send me
$21 via PayPal to my email address.
Or, I can order a duplicate diploma at:
<https://www.cpp.edu/registrar/graduation/diploma-info.shtml>

>It is easy enough to fake since I gave one of the members of
>our riding group (you know - people who actually ride bicycles?)

Oddly, none of your riding "group" has ever appeared in RBT. The only
person I recall is when you joined Jobst Brandt on one of his rides,
with predictable results. Also, thanks for posting your rides to
Strava, but I would think that you would have added a few of your
group members as Strava followers.

However, since you're so concerned that I faked my diploma, please
note that the fake diplomas usually don't include the padded leather
case:
<https://www.cpp.edu/registrar/img/18class4.jpg>
You can see some of the case in my photo. I'll post an updated photo
tomorrow:
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>

>This is why you have spent the last several years making enemies
>among the posters here.

To the best of my knowledge, nobody hates me, in RBT or elsewhere.
Similarly, I don't currently hate anyone. I find you disagreeable but
I don't hate you. All you've done is make yourself appear incompetent
and foolish. All I've done it fix your mistakes, point out your lies,
and document your ineptitude.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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The army also had civilian employees working menial jobs - stocking shelves at the PX and commissary, pumping gas at the PX gas station, menial kitchen labor at the PX cafeteria and bowling alley. All of which Tom may have become qualified for with some training. I don't know for sure about NASA, though it's likely they needed help in the janitorial department and cafeteria staff.
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