Even the pretense of science is gone from global warming hysteria

[Andre Jute]

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:23:09 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Everything is "man-made global warming" which they have had to change to "Climate Change" so that they can claim that if it is hot it's because of climate change and if it's cold its because of climate change. Actually the climate has not been warming - since 1920 every warming indicator has been down SHARPLY.
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> So after they predicted another dry year we now have well over 200% the yearly average until this time which means that it will be well over average for the entire year. But they have stopped telling us where we stand to the normal yearly average.
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Climate change is now a religion, no proof necessary. When you have child priestesses like that neurotic Swedish teenage scold Greta Thunberg making predictions to the "world government" of the United Nations and nobody laughs, while idiots like Franki-boy mutter in their beards about "the science", you know you're in serious trouble, but it's nothing to do with the climate, which is what it always was, changeable.
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Instead it is to do with what Joseph Stalin saw when Lenin died: that when one ray of post-temporal hope, religion, is removed, those who wish to rule must institute another, which is why Stalin had Lenin, a nasty little cold-blooded murderer, embalmed and turned into an icon. When Lenin's widow objected, Stalin said, "If Krupskaya won't play her part, I shall have to appoint someone else to be Lenin's widow."
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In exactly the same way, since Michael Mann of the lying hockey stick failed and was exposed as a crook, Greta has been appointed in his place, but without the fake "scientific" and (even worse) "statistical" trappings because they are no longer necessary: Hysteria has taken over.
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That is one of the reasons smart people see a direct connection between discredited Marxism and Climate Hysteria as it's direct replacement for the godless. It is something for rootless, not overly bright people to belong to.
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Andre Jute
Scientology always had more science than Global Warming, and it is calmer too -- and Scientology is strictly science fiction!
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[Tom Kunich]

I would like to know why the people of this country are paying for NOAA to spout bare faced lies to them? https://principia-scientific.com/noaa-caught-lying-about-arctic-sea-ice/

Even the statement that the artic used to "reliably freeze every winter" is a lie. The USS Skate, a nuclear submarine surface at the North Pole in 1954 into open water. This was followed by the USS Nautilus doing the same thing in 1955. The Skate surfaced again at the North Pole in 1956 into a very thin crust of ice.

But Franky boy thinks himself a scientist and I who actually know how to do research and understand facts frightens him so badly he dirties his panties at the very thought that I could be right.

Is this bicycle related? YES! We have been lied to about everything. A citizenry frozen in fear is a citizenry easier to control. Fauci and the Slime Stream Media claim that 814,000 people have died from covid. That would be a 25%!! increase in deaths. See, you're too stupid to realize that another 25% of the perfectly healthy people in this world aren't dying. In fact, I have pointed out that in 2020 there were no increases in respiratory disease deaths and that in 2021 with everyone out of work, the levels of respiratory disease deaths were up to 25% below normal. A couple of days ago I decided to look into circulatory diseases because Fauci's minions had jacked those figures up. Guess what? There has been absolutely NO change in the levels of circulatory disease deaths in either 2020 or 2021. Since Respiratory diseases and Circulatory disease deaths make up 95% of the people that die in the US this demonstrates that THERE WAS NO PANDEMIC as such. I know that the covid-19 is real because the entire family got Omicron which is a cold like disease that lasts 3 days of rapidly advancing symptoms and then 1 day to recover. Completely.

So why did all of the fully vaccinated people get it and none of the unvaccinated? Daughter Shelly's 2 year old who could not be vaccinated didn't get it despite the rest of the family getting it and exposing him. I didn't get it despite my wife having it.

Again, what does this have to do with cycling? It means that you should not worry about an illness that is less dangerous than the yearly seasonal flu. And that you can expect another fear campaign that is calling the seasonal flu another variant of the covid-19.

LIVE YOUR LIVES. Except for you Frank - you can drop dead and improve this world.

[Andre Jute]

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 4:32:50 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 4:22:25 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:23:09 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Everything is "man-made global warming" which they have had to change to "Climate Change" so that they can claim that if it is hot it's because of climate change and if it's cold its because of climate change. Actually the climate has not been warming - since 1920 every warming indicator has been down SHARPLY.
> > >
> > > So after they predicted another dry year we now have well over 200% the yearly average until this time which means that it will be well over average for the entire year. But they have stopped telling us where we stand to the normal yearly average.
> > >
> > Climate change is now a religion, no proof necessary. When you have child priestesses like that neurotic Swedish teenage scold Greta Thunberg making predictions to the "world government" of the United Nations and nobody laughs, while idiots like Franki-boy mutter in their beards about "the science", you know you're in serious trouble, but it's nothing to do with the climate, which is what it always was, changeable.
> > >
> > Instead it is to do with what Joseph Stalin saw when Lenin died: that when one ray of post-temporal hope, religion, is removed, those who wish to rule must institute another, which is why Stalin had Lenin, a nasty little cold-blooded murderer, embalmed and turned into an icon. When Lenin's widow objected, Stalin said, "If Krupskaya won't play her part, I shall have to appoint someone else to be Lenin's widow."
> > >
> > In exactly the same way, since Michael Mann of the lying hockey stick failed and was exposed as a crook, Greta has been appointed in his place, but without the fake "scientific" and (even worse) "statistical" trappings because they are no longer necessary: Hysteria has taken over.
> > >
> > That is one of the reasons smart people see a direct connection between discredited Marxism and Climate Hysteria as it's direct replacement for the godless. It is something for rootless, not overly bright people to belong to.
> > >
> > Andre Jute
> > Scientology always had more science than Global Warming, and it is calmer too -- and Scientology is strictly science fiction!
> > >
> I would like to know why the people of this country are paying for NOAA to spout bare faced lies to them? https://principia-scientific.com/noaa-caught-lying-about-arctic-sea-ice/
>

Interesting link, Tom. I've always said that the likelihood, in the longterm, is that the world will grow somewhat cooler but that the crowd who wanted us to warm up the oceans in the 1970s, because they claimed the world was in imminent danger of freezing, led by the same loud wankers as the Global Warmies, by James Hansen etc, were hysterical idiots who hated people, a bunch of drama queens too immoral ever to grasp that science should have no politics, and that "noble lies for a cause", a communist concept, instantly removes the mantle of science from their shoulders.

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> Even the statement that the artic used to "reliably freeze every winter" is a lie. The USS Skate, a nuclear submarine surface at the North Pole in 1954 into open water. This was followed by the USS Nautilus doing the same thing in 1955. The Skate surfaced again at the North Pole in 1956 into a very thin crust of ice.
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Startling images after all the lies we've heard.

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> But Franky boy thinks himself a scientist and I who actually know how to do research and understand facts frightens him so badly he dirties his panties at the very thought that I could be right.
>

Yes, it often strikes me that a whole lot of the anger here against you and me are because these people know they're promoting lies and that we won't go along, that we'll expose them.
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Frank-boy is small chops, a jumped-up factory oilrag. He takes his "science" from CNN. But, since I refuse to believe anyone who can get an engineering degree from even a third or fourth rate college can be quite so stupid, Franki-boy must know Global Warming is all hat and no cattle, zero science, in fact only anti-science, lies piled upon lies.
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Good points in the rest of your post too, Tom, but since I have nothing to add to them I've snipped them for bandwidth.
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Andre Jute
Celebrating 60 Years of Success On the Ramparts Guarding Against the Climate Hysterics.

[Tom Kunich]

Well, It would be one thing if Frank actually believed what he was spouting. But he doesn't. He can't believe things he knows nothing about. All he can do as you pointed out is mimic CNN and pretend that they are his own opinions. He simply couldn't be that stupid. It is entirely a ploy to attempt to argue with me. To "prove" me wrong. And yet he hasn't the knowledge to do so. Pretty stupid if you ask me. Making obvious false claims only makes him look worse. And the idiotic part about all of this is that he and I see pretty much eye to eye on bicycle related subjects. That makes him arguing about things he knows nothing about and I do look even worse.

What this has caused is an entire nation that firstly went along with this covid crap. And then it got old and the resentment of the continuing lockdown is breaking through and the success of Florida's totally ignoring Biden and Fauci's corruption of the truth is making more than a point but a realization that they have lost virtually EVERYTHING to the Democrat's means for committing election fraud.

This entire nation has had more than enough and they are about to start shooting. This is why the Democrats want to take the 2nd Amendment away from them. They fear most the people they cannot control and gun ownership has gone up so much that the manufacturers have taken a year and a half to catch up with the demand. Most of California's anti-gun laws have been thrown out by the Supreme Court which is why the Democrats are talking about destroying the Supreme Court by any means available. 90% of the manufactured guns are STILL on backorder. Europe is making a killing selling their poorly manufactured junk here. Want to buy a pistol with so much blow by that holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns? Or an automatic that is super-sensitive to the shape of the bullet or else it jams? Even the AK-47 copies or the NATO M4 copies jam consistently. As of now, still the most reliable long rifles are the M1 and M1 carbine. And they started making them not that long after WW-I.

[John B.]

I'm curious about those pistols "pistol with so much blow by that
holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?" Can you give me
an example?

As for an "an automatic that is super-sensitive to the shape of the
bullet or else it jams" I might point out that many center-fire target
pistols are sensitive to the bullet form. Some simply won't function
with wad-cutter bullets.
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Cheers,

John B.

[Andre Jute]

Hey, Slow Johnny, do you mind taking your pistol-talk elsewhere than this temple to the science and the environment. -- Andre Jute

[Tom Kunich]

Tell me John, since you haven't even a passing idea about revolvers why are you talking about them? Obviously you have never shot a revolver and I assume a pistol of any sort. Looking at these shots fired from these guns if you have even the eyesight of a blind man you can see the blow-by lighting up the entire front end of the cylinder. Some are so bad that they also throw bits of lead that are shaved off of the bullet as it has to go from the fired bullet in the cylinder to the barrel. So I wonder why you cannot contain yourself about commenting about things you haven't the foggiest knowledge of. Or are you going to google it and discover someone saying that it doesn't exist? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APntR9vVdv0

[Tom Kunich]

On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 11:59:36 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
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> Hey, Slow Johnny, do you mind taking your pistol-talk elsewhere than this temple to the science and the environment. -- Andre Jute

Well, John's postings are so comedic you have to look forward to them. He doesn't ride a bicycle and then says that he rides 20 miles into Bangkok. He talks about pistols as if he knew something about them when any idiot knows about blow by. As a demonstration in one video they held a newspaper up along side the cylinder and it blew the newspaper into confetti. To John, a revolving cylinder perfectly matches the barrel with absolutely no play and no clearance between the cylinder and the barrel. Let's hope that he posts again about how there's no such thing as blow by. It should be even funnier him trying to explain those flashes of flame around the front of the cylinder as the pistol is fired.

[John B.]

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 08:30:17 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich

No Tommy, I have shot pistols, probably more then you can even
imagine. And I was good enough and experienced enough to have won
several State Championships, two in one year, and was be selected to
shoot for SAC in the Inter-Service Pistol Matches at Lackland AFB.

And, I repeat "I'm curious about those pistols "pistol with so much

blow by that holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?"
Can you give me an example?"

Which I might point out that you have yet to answer.

As for your description of revolvers venting gas between the cylinder
and barrel, well, they all do, every single one and to date I've never
heard of 2nd degree burns, and I might add that when I was shooting a
lot of State Police used our range and in those years they all used
revolvers so I do have some experience with people shooting revolvers.

So, why don't you answer my question? Is it because you don't know
what you are talking about and have to rely on insults to cover up the
fact that you were telling lies again?
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Cheers,

John B.

[Tom Kunich]

Considering the comments you have made and your complete ignorance of blow-by I'm really willing to believe you even shot pistols let along won a state championship.

[John B.]

Tommy, you really should take those adult remedial school courses as
you, very obviously, don't understand what you read. Or perhaps you
just have a very vivid imagination.

As one example, I have never said that I "rides 20 miles into Bangkok"
although I might have said that I ride 20 km in Bangkok. See Tommy,
there is a difference between "in" and "into". Take the courses!

As for revolver blow by, as I pointed out in another post all
revolvers have this problem and what I was asking you was in response
to your post about getting poorly made revolvers causing 2nd degree
burns and to date you haven't answered the question.

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Cheers,

John B.

[AMuzi]

+1
The firearm I've owned longest is my .38 stainless Police
Special. Many weapons do have idiosyncrasies or foibles, but
this one simply doesn't. Never jams, never experienced burns
shooting one or two hands; it's just as boringly reliable
and consistent a thing as I have ever owned.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[John B.]

So? It appears that you know what you are doing (:-)
Out of curiosity is it a S&W or Colt - I have the feeling that both
Colt and S&W manufactured guns called "Police" something or another.

I also believe that for protection a revolver is the best choice as an
"Automatic" kept loaded can have problems with the magazine spring
getting weak and causing malfunctions.
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Cheers,

John B.

[Frank Krygowski]

I probably shouldn't pile on, because I don't consider myself skilled with a handgun. I much prefer rifles, and I've shot
revolvers on only a few occasions. But I understand the source of the blow by, and I can't imagine how
one would hold a revolver so as to get the burn Tom mentions.

- Frank Krygowski

[Tom Kunich]

Frank, here is a high accuracy shooting position for an automatic: https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/can-center-axis-relock-make-faster-safer-accurate/
While done properly this greatly improves your long range accuracy, it you allow your hand to be too close to the slide, you can cut the inner area of your hand between the thumb and first finger and badly enough that you could need medical attention.

Here is the correct manner in which to hold a revolver. https://www.christiangunowner.com/images/shooting2hdrevolver.jpg

You can see that you COULD slip your left hand further forward so that your third finger rests upon the lead part of the trigger guard. But they this put your hand in the blow-by zone. With a short barrel like this there isn't a lot of blow-by and so you might see people shooting like this. But with longer barrels the pressure behind the bullet is there for a much longer time. This is NOT an uncommon injury and is why most shooters use pistols for distances under 100 yards (usually well under) and aim and shoot with one hand. Lead or copper can be shaved off of the bullet and on long barrel pistols aside from pretty serious burns you can receive dangerous cuts or even penetration into the bones of your fingers,.

So learning the proper use of a small arm is necessary. Especially with hot loads. I handload (or did) my .357 loads and you do NOT want your hands to be on the side of the cylinder barrel interface.

[John B.]

Well... if you were to hold the revolver around the front portion of
the frame so that your hand covered the area at the rear of the barrel
and front of the cylinder... but of course no one holds a "repeating"
pistol that way (:-)
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Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 16:57:40 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich

>> > >>>> This entire nation has had more than enough and they are about to start shooting. This is why the Democrats want to take the 2nd Amendment away from them. They fear most the people they cannot control and gun ownership has gone up so much that the manufacturers have taken a year and a half to catch up with the demand. Most of California's anti-gun laws have been thrown out by the Supreme Court which is why the Democrats are talking about destroying the Supreme Court by any means available. 90% of the manufactured guns are STILL on backorder. Europe is making a killing selling their poorly manufactured junk here. Or an automatic that is super-sensitive to the shape of the bullet or else it jams? Even the AK-47 copies or the NATO M4 copies jam consistently. As of now, still the most reliable long rifles are the M1 and M1 carbine. And they started making them not that long after

But Tommy, that wasn't at all what your original statement was. You
said, and I quote, "Want to buy a pistol with so much blow by that

holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?"

And when I question you saying, "I'm curious about those pistols

"pistol with so much blow by that holding it will two hands may cause
2nd degree burns?" Can you give me an example?"

You replied with your usual B.S. and now you are into how to correctly
hold a pistol.

So I'll ask you again, " I'm curious about those pistols "pistol with

so much blow by that holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree
burns?" Can you give me an example?"

As for the "improves your long range accuracy" that you talk about.
What is "long range" with a pistol?
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Cheers,

John B.

[Tom Kunich]

So, as "state pistol champion" you never saw it nor did it yourself. You are so believable that I know that flunkmeister would believe you in a second.

[Tom Kunich]

Tell us more about how you were a state pistol champion but had never heard of blow-by. Oh wait, you changed your mind and you KNOW about it but NO ONE was ever injured by it. It couldn't possibly be because they only did it once. Well, state champ. I'm really believing your know what you're talking about. I only shot thousands of rounds out of my many pistols and hand loaded my own ammunition and still have hundreds of rounds in my safe though my younger brother who like all good California Democrats is afraid of guns, made me apparently give away my guns because he figured I'd shoot myself of commit suicide because there was a gun in my home while I was still suffering from the effects of concussion and didn't know what I was doing . Surprise, there are still guns in my home.

Since you're a state pistol champion, why is it that you don't know that 100 yards is a long shot with a pistol?

[Frank Krygowski]

Yeah, I should have rephrased to this: I can't imagine _why_ someone
would hold a revolver that way. More than once, anyway.

I did know a guy who, when drunk, held his handgun weirdly and shot the
tip off his index finger. I suppose anything's possible.

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- Frank Krygowski

[Tom Kunich]

Uh, that was my point - most people don't take lessons on how to shoot a gun. In the Air Force I had a lot of trouble with the TI until it came to the shooting range. Then I could put everything in the black while the TI was running around trying to keep people holding their carbines down range.

With hand guns it is a lot worse. A .357 is a pretty powerful round and if you have the normal 4" or longer barrel you get a LOT of recoil. People that haven't much experience are likely to hold it as I said and hurt themselves. ONCE. Then they don't make that mistake again.

Why would you act as if somehow people automatically know how to use guns without any practice or training?

[John B.]

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 07:24:45 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich

It seems like you are running "all around Robin Hood's barn" to avoid
answering what seems to be a pretty simple question.

You said, ""Want to buy a pistol with so much blow by that holding it

will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?"

I said, "I'm curious about those pistols "pistol with so much blow by

that holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?" Can you
give me an example?"

And you respond with your usual insults.

When are you going to answer my, rather simple, question?
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Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 07:26:47 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich

Ah but Tommy, you said, " Want to buy a pistol with so much blow by

that holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?"

And I asked you "I'm curious about those pistols "pistol with so much

blow by that holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?"
Can you give me an example?"

and so far you haven't answered me.

As for "long shot with a pistol"? Again I asked you the question.
And you replied, "you don't know that 100 yards is a long shot with a
pistol?"

But if 100 yards is a "long shot with a pistol" how do you explain
Jerry Miculek's 1,000 yard shooting with a S&W 929 revolver?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3XwizTqDw

Or Elmer Keith's account of shooting a deer at 600 yards, must have
been at least 50 years, or more, years ago.
https://www.go2gbo.com/threads/the-story-of-elmer-keiths-famous-or-infamous-600-yard-shot-with-a-short-barre.92109/
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Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:46:29 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich

But Tommy, you said, "Want to buy a pistol with so much blow by that

holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?"

And I asked, "I'm curious about those pistols "pistol with so much

blow by that holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?"
Can you give me an example?"

And now you are going on about training in the Air Force.

When are you going to answer my question?
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Cheers,

John B.

[AMuzi]

In fairness, 100 yards with your average shooter and your
average pistol is pretty darned far.

Match pistols built to high standards with longer barrels,
match ammo and shot by guys with a few thousand hours of
practice are an entirely different matter.

[John B.]

Actually, with the exception of Olympic type pistols most target
shooters use bog standard commercial pistols. With the exception that
they have adjustable sights so perhaps it is more accurate to call
them target version pistols. But longer barrels? Not necessarily.
Many, particularly military shooters, use the Model 1911 Colt for both
"center fire" and .45 cal matches with, of course, the standard 5"
length barrel.

For the "average shooter", i.e., NOT a practiced target shooter, 50
yards is a long way (:-) the U.S. Navy pistol qualification course is
fired at 3, 7 and 15 yards and, I believe, that the standard police
qualification course is fired at 15 yards.

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Cheers,

John B.

[Lou Holtman]

100 yards? First practice with a handgun in the army was at 7-10 meters from a life size dummy. 10 shots aimed at the chest, I didn't hit anything ;-) It got a bit better after a while, but 100 yards? Nahh.

Lou

[AMuzi]

+1
My experience was/is the same

[Tom Kunich]

I shot a whole lot and standing I was hard pressed to get six shots on the target at 100 yards let alone in the black. But you see, John's parents were rich and could afford to supply him with the thousands of rounds of practice ammunition it would take to make it to the state competition let alone win it. And a pistol target for 100 yards is 3 feet in diameter.

[John B.]

On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 08:42:24 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich

My parents??? I told you I was a member of U.S. Air Force Base teams.
Long after my Mom and Pop stopped supporting me.

But, more the point, several days ago you posted the statement, "Want

to buy a pistol with so much blow by that holding it will two hands
may cause 2nd degree burns?"

And I asked you, "I'm curious about those pistols "pistol with so much

blow by that holding it will two hands may cause 2nd degree burns?"
Can you give me an example?"

Which to date you haven't replied to. One wonders why?

Is it because you were foolishly blabbing about something that you
knew nothing about?

Is it because you were lying? Trying to make people believe that you
knew something?

Or was it simply an indication that your dementia is getting worse?

Or, to put it in simple terms, are you foolish, lying, or crazy?
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Cheers,

John B.