>>>>>>>> Since then, nine nations—Ethiopia, South Africa, India, Mauritius, Myanmar, Yemen, Uganda, Mozambique and Swaziland—notified the treaty's secretariat that they are using DDT. Five others—Zimbabwe, North Korea, Eritrea, Gambia, Namibia and Zambia--also reportedly are using it, and six others, including China, have reserved the right to begin using it, according to a January Stockholm Convention report."
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ddt-use-to-combat-malaria/ And although WHO recommends house spraying and not widespread spraying, that seems to do the trick according to the congressional testimony. I'm not an entomologist and do not play one on TV, but it seems to me that we should avoid rampant spraying to reduce the rapid proliferation of resistant mosquitoes. It also seems like a good idea to keep persistent organic pollutants -- pesticides -- out of the environment.
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>>>>>>>> For two generations of genocide by American environmentalists, governments who insisted on using DDT would find that the World Bank would not give the loans, that American aid was cut off, etc. At least you didn't say patronizingly, like another RBTer, the wretched Peter Cook, that "we now allow them to spray DDT on their houses". But he has a better grip on how American diplomacy and aid works than you do.
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>>>>>>>> Yes, I know, Rachel Carlson -- dead or alive -- controlled United States foreign policy through five Republican administrations. Those poor Republican puppets of the faceless "American environmentalists." Time for torches and pitchforks. "Damn you Environmentalists . . . Damn you!" [curtain falls, house erupts in applause, author Jute appears and is showered with roses].
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>>>>>>>>>> at least where mosquitoes have not developed a resistance. US C02 standards are not preventing any third-world nation from developing industry or keeping them in "peasant poverty" (say that ten times fast). India, for example, is enjoying the benefits of vigorous industry without the constraints of repressive environmental laws.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/01/new-delhi-s-air-pollution-is-twice-as-bad-as-beijing-s.html God bless them, each and every asthmatic one -- living free and unfettered by the genocidal environmental laws of their white oppressors.
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>>>>>>>>> In Paris the Indian foreign minister said plainly that CO2 control is a racist measure. I'm glad to see you're so tolerant towards Indians: "God bless them" -- though I'm not at all sure their god and yours are compatible.
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>>>>>>>> Yup, and they apparently don't care that their people are dying of respiratory disease among other diseases. They are poster children for environmental ruination and its effect on human populations.
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>>>>>>>> -- Jay Beattie.
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>>>>>>> Wouldn't anyone think that before writing all of this crap, Jay would actually look up DDT and discover that it isn't as much of a problem in the environment as ASPIRIN?
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>>>>>>> According to the CDC, "No effects have been reported in adults given small daily doses of DDT by capsule for 18 months (up to 35 milligrams [mg] every day)." (35 mg is NOT a small dose - it is 3 1/2 times the daily dose of Prozac)
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>>>>>>> Just to take a clear shot at this - there are problems with DDT. It can accumulate in the system and it has an extremely long half-life though with today's technology they could no doubt make a drug that would unhook DDT from the body fat where it accumulates.
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>>>>>>> It is by FAR the least dangerous of the truly effective insecticides.
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>>>>>>> "Some studies in humans linked DDT levels in the body with breast cancer, but other studies have not made this link. Other studies in humans have linked exposure to DDT/DDE [a DDT metabolite] with having lymphoma, leukemia, and pancreatic cancer. No definitive association with these cancers has been made."
>>>>>>> Even more revealing is the lack of a dose-response: "Workers heavily exposed to DDT never had more cancer than workers not exposed to DDT."
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>>>>>>> To bad Jay wouldn't go off tramping through swamps and jungle searching for quinine.
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>>>>>> Eat up Tom! And then read: Male fertility following occupational exposure to dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT); (2015) 77 EEVRNI C 42-47; Health risks and benefits of bis(4-chlorophenyl)-1,1,1-trichloroethane (DDT) Lancet Vol 366 No. 9467 2005; Factors influencing the ecological and human health risks of DDTs in soils and air at the isomeric and enantiomeric levels; (2018) 359 ESJNHM 316-324 (2018) 359 ESJNHM 316-324; DDTs in mothers' milk, placenta and hair, and health risk assessment for infants at two coastal and inland cities in China; (2014) 65 EEVRNI C 73-82; Disruption of dopamine transport by DDT and its metabolites; (2008) 29 ENEURO 4 682-690. LD 50 is high, cancer risk is low (although it is currently classified as "probably carcinogenic"); nonetheless, it has hormonal and other effects in humans, and it is demonstrably bad for children, born and in utero. But I'm sure you're familiar with all the published literature, so I won't summarize them for you.
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>>>>>> Plus, a "problem in the environment" isn't limited to the fact that DDT has effects on humans and wildlife. You just don't throw pesticides around willy-nilly -- any pesticide. Pesticides kill beneficial insects and invertebrates. Over-use also leads to earlier resistance.
https://sites.duke.edu/malaria/4-gene-environment-interactions/pesticide-resistence/ There are many reasons for wanting to limit the use of DDT of which I'm sure you are aware, being that you are such an autodidact -- but in case you missed the memo, the over-exuberant use of DDT has created swarms of resistant mosquitoes.
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>>>>>> BTW, I do tromp around Safeway searching for tonic water. And for more family lore, my grandfather also went on Arctic and Anarctic expeditions. He has a mountain named after him in the Antarctic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Steere He was a big opponent of drilling on the Alaska West Slope (University of Alaska gave him an honorary Doctorate). Damned Environmentalists! Curse you!
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>>>>>> -- Jay Beattie.
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>>>>> One of the latest papers in Science states that almost none of these experiments are replicable because the survey samples are far too small and the statistics are very poorly done. But continue posting your garbage because, after all, you're a member of AAAS like I am.
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>>>> Tom, do you mean I'm not a member of AAAS? I could be a member of AAAS by pushing a button and paying $50.
https://purchase.aaas.org/order/301/1?intcmp=AAAS-site_MembershipMenu&dmc=P8A3O3 I'd rather save the $50, although the t-shirt is kind of neat, and having full access to the old issues of Science would be neat, too.
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>>>> And BTW, when you go to the AAAS site and type "DDT" in the search bar, it brings up (among many other things): "DDT may quadruple breast cancer risk" By Kelly ServickJun. 16, 2015
https://tinyurl.com/ydgmwjc9 And the study was in Oakland! Lucky you don't have breasts. Here's the synopsis:
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>>>> "It’s been 42 years since the pesticide dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT) was banned in the United States for its harmful effects on wildlife. But scientists are still untangling its connection to human health. A new study published today in The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism suggests that exposure to the compound in utero may increase a woman’s risk of developing breast cancer later in life. The study relies on a unique database of pregnancies in members of the Kaiser Foundation Health Plan in Oakland, California, between 1959 and 1967, when DDT was still used heavily on crops. Women whose mothers had elevated levels of DDT in their blood had a nearly fourfold increase in risk of developing breast cancer by age 52, compared with controls who were matched for a variety of factors, including maternal history of breast cancer. Previous evidence for a breast cancer link has been mixed—one study found increased risk in women exposed before age 14, whereas
others found no association—but in a lab dish, DDT has been shown to activate the HER2 gene in human breast cells, which is expressed in some breast cancers. Understanding the risks of DDT is critical, the authors note, because the compound is still used to control mosquitoes and prevent the spread of malaria in Africa and Asia."
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>>>> That site is awesome. It has articles going back to the '50s on DDT and covers the suit against the EPA when it announced its intent to ban DDT. I can only get pieces because I'M NOT A MEMBER! I do have access to medical literature through LEXIS, but I'll have to see if I can get Science.
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>>>> Also read the articles I posted. They're articles from peer reviewed journals including Lancet. You would like the Lancet article because it notes the weak association between DDT and certain illnesses and the stronger association with others. Go to the local med school library, do a MedLine search and read up. Unless you do primary research, you're just stuck in an echo chamber with all the other lunatics.
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>>>> -- Jay Beattie.
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>>>> P.S. for Andre: It looks like the Indians are indeed living the good life, free of the environmental laws of the colonial oppressors.
https://tinyurl.com/ycy75atr
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>>> I am not in the least surprised that you think that you join AAAS for the t-shirt.
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>> Hey, it's a cool t-shirt.
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>>> Yesterday I went up to the post office. I was there a couple of minutes early so I was going to walk around. All of the local signs are in Spanish so I can practice reading. Only ONE store is in English - a Music Shop.
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>>> There was what looked like a homeless person and I had two fives so I thought I would pass them on. Unlike Oregon Democrats who call the cops.
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>> WTF are you talking about? It is clearly time for you meds. I thought we were talking about DDT. No?
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>> As I approached it was an old black lady crying unconsolably. She had just been evicted from her one room apartment so that the illegal land owner could rent that room out to an illegal family or two for more money.
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>> She was crying "inconsolably." Note that she didn't "just get evicted." It is a 30/60 day process for an eviction without cause in California. She is probably receiving housing choice vouchers (formerly Section 8) which makes it unlikely that she had an "illegal" landlord -- and it also makes it difficult to evict her. You should have asked her about her voucher situation and sent her to the evil liberal legal aid if she was forced out without sufficient cause or notice. Then point her to a shelter which are typically staffed with social workers. If you encounter these people frequently, then you should keep details and directions with you.
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>> And Tom, are you against the free market? Don't you want to rent your property for the highest amount the market will bear? Hmmm, don't tell me you're for rent control. That's totally un-Trump, the great gamer of rent control on earth -- well, after Fred.
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>> Everything she had in the world was in a shopping cart. Since she was on welfare she couldn't even begin to find another place. The rent on a trailer space cost more than most three room apartments. Without a permanent address she couldn't get welfare. So out on the street as the cold part of the year is arriving she will probably commit suicide soon. This is the Democrat way of fixing things by letting in Illegals and destroying ICE. Your kind of people doing your kind of thing.
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>> Sure she can get welfare without a permanent address. Most shelters provide drop boxes, and in most states, checks can be picked up in the office. You need to read-up on welfare benefits.
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>>> She had no idea what she was going to do and neither did I in a state where you get more money as a healthy illegal alien than you do as a sick senior citizen American.
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>> You assume she is an imbecile or an infant -- the soft bigotry of low expectations. She probably knows exactly what to do -- including getting money from you.
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>>> If there's one thing that the Democrats are ALWAYS good for it is destroying people's lives with empty idealism.
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>> And Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, TANF, CHIP, SNAP, etc., etc. I thought you hated Democrats because they were giving money away. No? Now not enough money is being given away? Welfare programs are typically reviled by the conservatives and identified with Democrats, like a black mark.
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>> I did legal aid when I was in law school and some pro bono over the last 30 years -- Section 8, general assistance, SNAP, etc. I learned that the mentally aware but economically disadvantaged can be quite sophisticated in terms of knowing their rights. The folks in the state welfare offices -- all those deep state dead-weights you hate -- are actually very helpful.
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>> -- Jay Beattie.
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> Again, I am not surprised that this woman doesn't distress you in the least. You are all for the Democrat plan of open borders and abolishing ICE.
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> This is why the Democrat Party has destroyed itself. You are mentally deranged and should be in an institution to protect the entire world from your kind. Do you have icons of Pol Pot on your walls?
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I have no idea bout that or how much of her story is true.
Then again:
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