Re: OT: Speaking of Verizon Billing
Tim McNamara
* Still Just Me * <noEmai...@stillnodomainey.com> wrote:
> Weren't we talking about VZ billing just a couple days ago. Check this
> out:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/08/verizon-bills-dead-man-bi_n_489865.ht
> ml
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yj2oom7
Now that's customer disservice with a smile.
--
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not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Jay Beattie
> In article <onvdp5lv4qdiid4gh3vjol50jvho8u0...@4ax.com>,
> * Still Just Me * <noEmailto...@stillnodomainey.com> wrote:
>
> > Weren't we talking about VZ billing just a couple days ago. Check this
> > out:
Who is advising these people? I have gotten so cranky with Verizon
that my e-mail correspondence is simply "you will do the following, or
I will sue you." Then they comply. I've really gotten to the
"Network" point in my life where I am going to start screaming out
windows. I feel so sorry for the old folks like my father who actually
trust people and don't understand that the consuming public is now
viewed as rubes and "marks" by even (formerly) reputable companies.--
Jay Beattie.
Bill
evaluation but had to return them both because, after reading the fine
print in the contract and in actual use, they proved to be much too
expensive.
I had to stand in line 4 times at the Verizon store in connection with
the transaction: once when I originally got both devices, twice when
returning each device and once to buy a mic/headset. Each time while
I was waiting in line for a customer service rep, there was a guy and
his wife or girlfriend in front of me. Her phone had been turned off
because she talked so much and didn't pay her bill, so the guy was
paying it for her and getting her phone service restored. Each time
the bill was several hundred dollars. Is it becoming a courtship
ritual, or an expectation of marriage, that the guy will pay the
woman's cellphone bill?
The cell phone business is a very high profit one, and these
companies' stockholders have gotten used to it and expect it to
continue. If Verizon makes less profit than Sprint, Verizon's
stockholders will try to replace corporate management. Since they
don't want to be replaced, Verizon's management will pursue a high-
profit business model.
And did you notice in the news that AT & T wants to get out of the
landline telephony business completely because it is no longer
profitable? They claim they have lost 60% of their landline customers
since cell phones became popular, and that local phone companies would
be glad to take over their landline operation (they would have to
purchase it from AT & T, of course). But what local phone company
would want to purchase and operate a money-losing company?
Let's face it: these customers are paying big bucks to have their
frickin' boring conversations over the air. Why don't they get their
ham radio tickets instead? The tests have been really dumbed-down, and
there is no longer any Morse code requirement. Then they can make
boring conversation with their friends all day long for free!
Bill
Bert
"* Still Just Me *" <noEmai...@stillnodomainey.com> schreef in bericht
news:onvdp5lv4qdiid4gh...@4ax.com...
> Weren't we talking about VZ billing just a couple days ago. Check this
> out:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yj2oom7
Dead men can't walk (and talk)
Red Cloud
You just can't trust big company. Verizon on my DSL does not offer
good help service. If I call for help line, all I got is digitize
voice. Verizon don't hire a helper
answering phone immediately. You have keep push the button...Then you
get a
through a voice helper. Verizon DSL should come with personal's web
space for free. Well Verizon don't create for you unless you call
them and complain. They cheat and they lie... It's American style
capitalism...
Bill Sornson
> You just can't trust big company. Verizon on my DSL does not offer
> good help service. If I call for help line, all I got is digitize
> voice. Verizon don't hire a helper
> answering phone immediately. You have keep push the button...Then you
> get a
> through a voice helper. Verizon DSL should come with personal's web
> space for free. Well Verizon don't create for you unless you call
> them and complain. They cheat and they lie... It's American style
> capitalism...
I blame NASCAR.
"Sorry the world just does not work by your white penis ass."
-- Pungent Cloud
ROTFL
Tim McNamara
<031f86a9-95a9-4ee1...@k2g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Bill <retrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The cell phone business is a very high profit one, and these
> companies' stockholders have gotten used to it and expect it to
> continue. If Verizon makes less profit than Sprint, Verizon's
> stockholders will try to replace corporate management. Since they
> don't want to be replaced, Verizon's management will pursue a high-
> profit business model.
From what I've been reading in the news, if Verizon's management did
drive the company to make less profit that sprint then they *should* be
replaced. Sprint has been operated ineptly for years, has been
hemorrhaging customers due to lousy customer service and poor quality
technical service, and has come up with idiotic plans to save itself
(e.g., their commercial proposing basically that you should sign up for
their new plan which will charge you more to provide the service you
already get).
Sprint passed on the iPhone, which is the one thing that could have
saved them. It did well for AT&T which was bordering on negligible in
the wireless sweepstakes and in danger of disappearing altogether.
When I got a cell phone back in 1998 or so, I went with Sprint more or
less randomly (there was a store near my home). I've had the same
$29.99 a month plan ever since. The only thing that keeps me from
switching is not wanting to get stuck with another two year indentured
servitude. Although I've been looking at some of the contractless cell
phones. For as little as I use it, one of those could do the trick.
--
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-Mark Twain
Tom Sherman °_°
service providers.
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AMuzi
I disliked them before you wrote that.
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Bill Sornson
> Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
>> Sprint is the least right-wing politically active of all the major
>> service providers.
> I disliked them before you wrote that.
Nice! <eg>
Tom Sherman °_°
> Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
>> Sprint is the least right-wing politically active of all the major
>> service providers.
>>
>
> I disliked them before you wrote that.
>
I thought you were a libertarian, and not a corporatist?
AMuzi
>>> [...]
>>> Sprint is the least right-wing politically active of all the major
>>> service providers.
> A. Muzi wrote:
>> I disliked them before you wrote that.
Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
> I thought you were a libertarian, and not a corporatist?
I'm all about "live and let live' except for, oh, al quaeda
and telephone companies.
assuming 'al quaeda' and 'telephone company' are different.
Peter Cole
> When I got a cell phone back in 1998 or so, I went with Sprint more or
> less randomly (there was a store near my home). I've had the same
> $29.99 a month plan ever since. The only thing that keeps me from
> switching is not wanting to get stuck with another two year indentured
> servitude. Although I've been looking at some of the contractless cell
> phones. For as little as I use it, one of those could do the trick.
I've switched to pay-as-you-go. I pay $100 once a year and get 1,000
minutes, which for me is a year's supply. No contracts, ~$8 a month.
Tim McNamara
Peter Cole <peter...@verizon.net> wrote:
That's exactly what I have been thinking about. Even if I used the 1000
minutes twice a year, it'd still be cheaper than what I have (and what I
have is pretty cheap).
Which did you go with? That sounds like the Verizon deal.
Nate Nagel
also check with your provider to see if you can get a discount based on
your employer. I was with Sprint, probably with the same plan as Tim,
and finally got a new plan when they stopped pushing the "night and
weekend" cutoff back later and later. With the discount for my
employer, it ended up less expensive than before.
I'm still considering switching though because my Y-chromosome-deficient
half just got a Droid which is kind of awesome (and the fact that it is
Linux based makes my inner geek happy, plus it's made by Motorola, not
one of those other manufacturers none of whose phones have ever lasted
for me) but Sprint only offers crackberries, although I could get a
crackberry for very cheap since it's been quite a while since I've had a
new phone.
I just really, really don't want to have to switch to Verizon just on
principle :(
nate
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Tom Sherman °_°
> [...]
> I'm still considering switching though because my Y-chromosome-deficient
> half just got a Droid which is kind of awesome (and the fact that it is
> Linux based makes my inner geek happy, plus it's made by Motorola, not
> one of those other manufacturers none of whose phones have ever lasted
I have a Korean made LG phone that is over 9 years old. I may have to
replace it when the battery goes bad, since replacements are no longer
available.
Motorola has assisted construction of the apartheid wall used to steal
land from the Palestinians.
AMuzi
>> [...]
>> I'm still considering switching though because my Y-chromosome-deficient
>> half just got a Droid which is kind of awesome (and the fact that it is
>> Linux based makes my inner geek happy, plus it's made by Motorola, not
>> one of those other manufacturers none of whose phones have ever lasted
>> for me)[...]
Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
> I have a Korean made LG phone that is over 9 years old. I may have to
> replace it when the battery goes bad, since replacements are no longer
> available.
>
> Motorola has assisted construction of the apartheid wall used to steal
> land from the Palestinians.
Whatever. And LG is keeping the South Koreans from
achieving the socialist utopia of the North.
Michael Press
Peter Cole
T-Mobile -- going on year 2 now...
Jay Beattie
Ronery, I'm so ronery . . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh_9QhRzJEs
-- Jay Beattie.
Tom Sherman °_°
> [...]
> T-Mobile -- going on year 2 now...
Do you have to wear the pink team jersey?
Peter Cole
> On 3/20/2010 3:45 PM, Peter Cole wrote:
>> [...]
>> T-Mobile -- going on year 2 now...
>
> Do you have to wear the pink team jersey?
>
With pay-as-you-go you don't have to do anything.