Converting kona Dew Plus for Cross?
mtb Dad
touring bike for my daughter. I have drop bars and tiagra sti
shifters . Do these rims Rigida ZAC 19 SL, accept 23 or 25 mm tires
for fast road riding? Can't find any dimensions with google. Any
other conversion issues? Thanks
landotter
> mtb Dad wrote:
> > Do these rims Rigida ZAC 19 SL, accept 23 or 25 mm tires
> > for fast road riding?
>
X2. And I'd even say 32mm is a healthier minimum for those rims.
Panaracer T-Servs would be pefect for road training.
Those frames pair rather nicely with the Salsa short reach bars, the
Woodchipper being a personal favorite. You can use the road brakes
with the discs, but you'll want to preload the activation arm so you
don't run out of cable.
landotter
BTW, this works great with BB7s, but there's a great chance that it
will do so for the stock Hayes as well.
mtb Dad
the rim dept for 23-32 mm tires. Seems like over kill for an 80 pound
girl.
landotter
Something with shimano road hubs can be respacered with a 135 axle and
some nuts. Either that or build your own. 135mm spaced wheels in 700c
are a rare bird if you need light.
landotter
Oops, disc only. As Guy mentioned, run light 28mm tires. If you have a
wheelset built you'll be halfway economically to a Jake. Not worth it.
mtb Dad
Yes, that was what I meant; wait for a cross bike to come along rather
than trying to make one. Thanks a million though.
SMS
There were some beautiful cross bikes at Interbike this year. The
question is whether you'll actually ever be able to find one in a shop.
Shops don't carry the entire line of the manufacturers whose products
they sell, so you're often stuck with a special order and you can't try
it out before you buy it.
Chalo
In my observation, 80 pound girls can be somewhat lax about keeping
track of their tires' inflation pressure. That's why most of them are
riding on 2" wide tires.
The rest of the bike is also designed to accommodate a rider over 200
lbs, and you probably don't consider many of those things
"overkill".
Chalo
landotter
For sure. Hybrids at that price point are built like tanks. I wouldn't
doubt it's a 10# frame and fork. But so what? With puffy 400g tires,
it's still gonna roll nicer than on the gumwall OEM Contis. Especially
if they're cross tires on dirt.
mtb Dad
She has a Kona Jake 2-4 24" wheel bike (quite light) and a Norco
Jammer 24 " dirt jump bike (heavy). Whe I asked if we should shop for
a new bke as she's growing out of both, she said, "can it be light
like the Jake?". So Chalo, yes you're right, it probably doesn't make
a lot of diffference, but she also notices the difference between the
very nice Panaracer pasela 1" tires on it for road, and the cross
tires that go on for the odd cross race, and wants them back on when I
delay removing the cross tires after a race.
kolldata
but try
http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCMain.jsp?scid=1000
and the road/dirt-path with same filter
for the Specs.
copy the pages for specs and geometry then flip back and forth to
establish a field of rapplication unto your endeavor.
a litttle stagger goes a long way-ask Childress
kolldata
guess ? 20
Chalo/Otter ? who shows up from the burbs with a custom cross frame
for little Reba ?
mtb Dad
Thanks. I think I get the comparison suggestion. But the
rapplication, stagger and Childress references are right over my head.
kolldata
ask the kid. RAPPLICATION is a new word. run with it.
I'm absolutely new at frame dimensions. The Monocog/8 speed Chalo
recommended I buy for trekking blows my mind with its stability over
gravel at speeds following various baaaad exepriences with 32c tires
on a upgraded 10 speed sport tourer of 1978/80. One going at least 10
feet minus bike. The Monocog/1 now Monodog/8 is a steel copy of an
aluminum cyclocross winner.
Childress owns a Nascar team trying for a Cup. Publically claimed
infractions include stagger, as pitching the car into turn stability
on the banking from a preset suspension stance: claim was suspension
tilit was a 64th inch off. I assume Team Childress was warned prior.
Nascar sent Childress to the bottom with penalties.
MOREL: a little goes a long way toward a winner in frame specs mated
to rider specs.
I don't get to bike races so the custom idea isnot reality based on
bike racing on site only racing/human nature/disposable income on
site.
I was impressed by the castration of Warkins Glen and then Road
Atlanta's world class last corner from disposable income and over the
top aspiration.
mtb Dad
> ask the kid. RAPPLICATION is a new word. run with it.
Will do.
> I'm absolutely new at frame dimensions. The Monocog/8 speed Chalo
> recommended I buy for trekking blows my mind with its stability over
> gravel at speeds following various baaaad exepriences with 32c tires
> on a upgraded 10 speed sport tourer of 1978/80. One going at least 10
> feet minus bike. The Monocog/1 now Monodog/8 is a steel copy of an
> aluminum cyclocross winner.
Will try, but small frames, with fender and rack mounts, not too
heavy, are surprisingly rare, unless you want to buy new or expensive.
> Childress owns a Nascar team trying for a Cup. Publically claimed
> infractions include stagger, as pitching the car into turn stability
> on the banking from a preset suspension stance: claim was suspension
> tilit was a 64th inch off. I assume Team Childress was warned prior.
> Nascar sent Childress to the bottom with penalties.
> MOREL: a little goes a long way toward a winner in frame specs mated
> to rider specs.
I'd like to know more; she's a good bike handler, done some jumping,
road touring, cross and bmx, but would love to have her feel the
difference of a good cross frame.
> I don't get to bike races so the custom idea isnot reality based on
> bike racing on site only racing/human nature/disposable income on
> site.
Yeah, custom's out for us. Two kids growing out of two bikes a piece
every year or two.
> I was impressed by the castration of Warkins Glen and then Road
> Atlanta's world class last corner from disposable income and over the
> top aspiration.
Ummm, Nascar again? "Castration of..."? They didn't spend enough?
"Road Atlanta..." They spent a lot and it worked?
Hooie, this is hard work. But fun. :)
kolldata
custom dirt bikes for future DeCosters.
Last time I calculated, welding 2.3 aluminum frames paid for the
equipment. Have you read the frame building book ?
At what size does your kid catch up to small adult frame sizes ?
Chalo
At the shops where I have worked over the years, I've never known a
kid to ride a really nice bike (let's say "above entry-level"), let
alone a good bike that wasn't some kind of BMX variant. I'm sure
there are shops in well-to-do suburbs that get some amount of that.
Chalo
kolldata
YO JACOBOUSKY calling REDWOOD come in REDWOOD......
Jaco sells 3G bikes to Jr. all week.
or did....
soon riding season in Texas ! you could start a new line of used
bikes, on paper ad, for future DeCosters.
There's you're first customer.
include a chain and lock and new brain for Jr.
mtb Dad
Frame building is something I will leave for retirement. Haven't read
the book, but read everything else I could find when I was a junior,
so the idea appeals.
She's right on the cusp; a 49 with the seat slammed and the shortest
possible stem. Damned if I can find a good used one tho'. And new
seems like a big investment just as she's about tohit her growth
spurt; for what, a year? And the current 24" looks like a little
circus bike under her. I guess I should just have the custom 650c
bike made and be done with it. And eating.
kolldata
into your solution.